Re: Using Maps, A Comparison on Two Devices
You're probably correct, but there is more to responsiveness than just processor speed, and since the A8 is only incrementally faster than the A7, it wouldn't surprise me at all if there were benchmarks where the iPhone 6 or iPhone 6+ is only marginally more responsive than the 5s. On 01/06/2015 10:02 PM, Charles Rivard wrote: Since the processor in the 5s is slower, the phone would respond slower. Also, since the battery is not as massive, the drain would be greater. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 9:00 PM Subject: Using Maps, A Comparison on Two Devices Hello Sieghard and Everyone, I have changed the Subject line to more accurately reflect our discussion. I was thinking about convening a group conference call to discuss the features of Apple Maps if anyone would be interested. Sieghard, you know, the problem with email is that, while so much can be expressed with merely the written word, so much more cannot be expressed. Allow me to clarify my previous comments: I do have access to an iPhone 64GB 5 S running 8.1.2. In general, the OS feels less responsive to me on the 5 S than it does on the 6 Plus especially where Safari is concerned. This is definitely true with regard to screen refresh rates. Without going into details, simply put, I cannot reproduce many of the iOS 8.1.2 bugs, many have reported on-list, on my 6 Plus; not the least of which being the Notifications Clear All Button problem. However, I can reproduce many of these bugs, including the Notifications Clear All Button problem on the 5 S. Sieghard, with your comments in mind, I decided to do a side-by-side comparison of the Apple Maps app on both the 5 S and the 6 Plus, today. I took both of the phones, simultaneously, on two routes, one walking and one in a vehicle. The following are my conclusions: Please note that before I began my tests, I closed all previously opened apps on both devices and performed a system reboot. During the test, I held one device in my right hand and the other in my left. 1. Assuming that there are no interruptions such as incoming phone calls, SMS messages, etc, to my surprise, the app performed identically on both devices. 2. Any interruptions during navigation, such as incoming calls, SMS messages, etc caused some navigation delay on the 5 S. Also, screen refresh rates and VoiceOver response time was noticeably slower on the 5 S after experiencing said interruptions. 3. The battery drain on the 5 S was significantly greater than on the 6 Plus. Finally, I have decided to upgrade my 5 S to 8.1.2. Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 9:50 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: How About Sending Apple Some Love Hi Mark, I would be quite interested in your walk-through of Apple Maps as well and I'm sure others are, so please do post it online or, if you do a review or Podcast on some place like Applevis let the list know. What I don't logically understand is why Apple Maps on a 6 Plus running 8.1.2 should be a much better experience than on a 5S running 8.1.2. Apart from the larger screen there is little difference between the two phones as far as I can tell when it comes to the components which effect Apple Maps. You said yourself that you did not have 8.1.2 installed on your 5S. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 9:13 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: How About Sending Apple Some Love Hello Krister, First let me say that, from a VoiceOver perspective especially, there is a big difference between the iOS 7.1.2 and the iOS 8.1.2 version of Apple Maps, the latter being much better and more streamline in almost every aspect. Second, Apple Maps now uses Tom-Tom as it's mapping source so its accuracy rivals that of Google Maps. Third, in my opinion only, version 8.1.2, in general, and Apple Maps, specifically, does not perform as well on the 5 S and earlier models as it does on the 6 series. The difference to me at least is astonishing. Keep in mind that while I did not install 8.1.2 on my own 5 S, I did use it quite a bit on those with which I have access and was not that impressed. Finally, as I really don't like Apple Maps 7.1.2, when you have access to iOS 8.1.2, please send me your contact info, off-list, and I will be happy to walk you through the Apple Maps, so to speak. Using the app is so simple once several key concepts are understood. In fact, the Apple Maps app is the simplest and most accurate off-the-shelf software GPS interface I've ever used on iOS. And the best part is that one need no vision in order
Using Maps, A Comparison on Two Devices
Hello Sieghard and Everyone, I have changed the Subject line to more accurately reflect our discussion. I was thinking about convening a group conference call to discuss the features of Apple Maps if anyone would be interested. Sieghard, you know, the problem with email is that, while so much can be expressed with merely the written word, so much more cannot be expressed. Allow me to clarify my previous comments: I do have access to an iPhone 64GB 5 S running 8.1.2. In general, the OS feels less responsive to me on the 5 S than it does on the 6 Plus especially where Safari is concerned. This is definitely true with regard to screen refresh rates. Without going into details, simply put, I cannot reproduce many of the iOS 8.1.2 bugs, many have reported on-list, on my 6 Plus; not the least of which being the Notifications Clear All Button problem. However, I can reproduce many of these bugs, including the Notifications Clear All Button problem on the 5 S. Sieghard, with your comments in mind, I decided to do a side-by-side comparison of the Apple Maps app on both the 5 S and the 6 Plus, today. I took both of the phones, simultaneously, on two routes, one walking and one in a vehicle. The following are my conclusions: Please note that before I began my tests, I closed all previously opened apps on both devices and performed a system reboot. During the test, I held one device in my right hand and the other in my left. 1. Assuming that there are no interruptions such as incoming phone calls, SMS messages, etc, to my surprise, the app performed identically on both devices. 2. Any interruptions during navigation, such as incoming calls, SMS messages, etc caused some navigation delay on the 5 S. Also, screen refresh rates and VoiceOver response time was noticeably slower on the 5 S after experiencing said interruptions. 3. The battery drain on the 5 S was significantly greater than on the 6 Plus. Finally, I have decided to upgrade my 5 S to 8.1.2. Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 9:50 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: How About Sending Apple Some Love Hi Mark, I would be quite interested in your walk-through of Apple Maps as well and I'm sure others are, so please do post it online or, if you do a review or Podcast on some place like Applevis let the list know. What I don't logically understand is why Apple Maps on a 6 Plus running 8.1.2 should be a much better experience than on a 5S running 8.1.2. Apart from the larger screen there is little difference between the two phones as far as I can tell when it comes to the components which effect Apple Maps. You said yourself that you did not have 8.1.2 installed on your 5S. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 9:13 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: How About Sending Apple Some Love Hello Krister, First let me say that, from a VoiceOver perspective especially, there is a big difference between the iOS 7.1.2 and the iOS 8.1.2 version of Apple Maps, the latter being much better and more streamline in almost every aspect. Second, Apple Maps now uses Tom-Tom as it's mapping source so its accuracy rivals that of Google Maps. Third, in my opinion only, version 8.1.2, in general, and Apple Maps, specifically, does not perform as well on the 5 S and earlier models as it does on the 6 series. The difference to me at least is astonishing. Keep in mind that while I did not install 8.1.2 on my own 5 S, I did use it quite a bit on those with which I have access and was not that impressed. Finally, as I really don't like Apple Maps 7.1.2, when you have access to iOS 8.1.2, please send me your contact info, off-list, and I will be happy to walk you through the Apple Maps, so to speak. Using the app is so simple once several key concepts are understood. In fact, the Apple Maps app is the simplest and most accurate off-the-shelf software GPS interface I've ever used on iOS. And the best part is that one need no vision in order to play it like a fine guitar. Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 1:07 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How About Sending Apple Some Love Hi, Very well said Mark! I couldn't agree more with you there. Having said that though i'll have to admit something that probably will make me sound negative in this thread and i'm truly sorry for that. Ok here goes: I can for the life of me not get tha hang of Apple maps. I've probably used it too few times. Is there maybe somewhere i can listen to a podcast going through the use of Apple maps? The reason why i never got around to using Maps was that people complained
Re: Using Maps, A Comparison on Two Devices
Sent from my iPhone On Jan 6, 2015, at 9:00 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Sieghard and Everyone, I have changed the Subject line to more accurately reflect our discussion. I was thinking about convening a group conference call to discuss the features of Apple Maps if anyone would be interested. Sieghard, you know, the problem with email is that, while so much can be expressed with merely the written word, so much more cannot be expressed. Allow me to clarify my previous comments: I do have access to an iPhone 64GB 5 S running 8.1.2. In general, the OS feels less responsive to me on the 5 S than it does on the 6 Plus especially where Safari is concerned. This is definitely true with regard to screen refresh rates. Without going into details, simply put, I cannot reproduce many of the iOS 8.1.2 bugs, many have reported on-list, on my 6 Plus; not the least of which being the Notifications Clear All Button problem. However, I can reproduce many of these bugs, including the Notifications Clear All Button problem on the 5 S. Sieghard, with your comments in mind, I decided to do a side-by-side comparison of the Apple Maps app on both the 5 S and the 6 Plus, today. I took both of the phones, simultaneously, on two routes, one walking and one in a vehicle. The following are my conclusions: Please note that before I began my tests, I closed all previously opened apps on both devices and performed a system reboot. During the test, I held one device in my right hand and the other in my left. 1. Assuming that there are no interruptions such as incoming phone calls, SMS messages, etc, to my surprise, the app performed identically on both devices. 2. Any interruptions during navigation, such as incoming calls, SMS messages, etc caused some navigation delay on the 5 S. Also, screen refresh rates and VoiceOver response time was noticeably slower on the 5 S after experiencing said interruptions. 3. The battery drain on the 5 S was significantly greater than on the 6 Plus. Finally, I have decided to upgrade my 5 S to 8.1.2. Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 9:50 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: How About Sending Apple Some Love Hi Mark, I would be quite interested in your walk-through of Apple Maps as well and I'm sure others are, so please do post it online or, if you do a review or Podcast on some place like Applevis let the list know. What I don't logically understand is why Apple Maps on a 6 Plus running 8.1.2 should be a much better experience than on a 5S running 8.1.2. Apart from the larger screen there is little difference between the two phones as far as I can tell when it comes to the components which effect Apple Maps. You said yourself that you did not have 8.1.2 installed on your 5S. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 9:13 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: How About Sending Apple Some Love Hello Krister, First let me say that, from a VoiceOver perspective especially, there is a big difference between the iOS 7.1.2 and the iOS 8.1.2 version of Apple Maps, the latter being much better and more streamline in almost every aspect. Second, Apple Maps now uses Tom-Tom as it's mapping source so its accuracy rivals that of Google Maps. Third, in my opinion only, version 8.1.2, in general, and Apple Maps, specifically, does not perform as well on the 5 S and earlier models as it does on the 6 series. The difference to me at least is astonishing. Keep in mind that while I did not install 8.1.2 on my own 5 S, I did use it quite a bit on those with which I have access and was not that impressed. Finally, as I really don't like Apple Maps 7.1.2, when you have access to iOS 8.1.2, please send me your contact info, off-list, and I will be happy to walk you through the Apple Maps, so to speak. Using the app is so simple once several key concepts are understood. In fact, the Apple Maps app is the simplest and most accurate off-the-shelf software GPS interface I've ever used on iOS. And the best part is that one need no vision in order to play it like a fine guitar. Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 1:07 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How About Sending Apple Some Love Hi, Very well said Mark! I couldn't agree more with you there. Having said that though i'll have to admit something that probably will make me sound negative in this thread and i'm truly sorry for that. Ok here goes: I can for the life of me not get tha hang of Apple maps.
Re: Using Maps, A Comparison on Two Devices
Since the processor in the 5s is slower, the phone would respond slower. Also, since the battery is not as massive, the drain would be greater. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 9:00 PM Subject: Using Maps, A Comparison on Two Devices Hello Sieghard and Everyone, I have changed the Subject line to more accurately reflect our discussion. I was thinking about convening a group conference call to discuss the features of Apple Maps if anyone would be interested. Sieghard, you know, the problem with email is that, while so much can be expressed with merely the written word, so much more cannot be expressed. Allow me to clarify my previous comments: I do have access to an iPhone 64GB 5 S running 8.1.2. In general, the OS feels less responsive to me on the 5 S than it does on the 6 Plus especially where Safari is concerned. This is definitely true with regard to screen refresh rates. Without going into details, simply put, I cannot reproduce many of the iOS 8.1.2 bugs, many have reported on-list, on my 6 Plus; not the least of which being the Notifications Clear All Button problem. However, I can reproduce many of these bugs, including the Notifications Clear All Button problem on the 5 S. Sieghard, with your comments in mind, I decided to do a side-by-side comparison of the Apple Maps app on both the 5 S and the 6 Plus, today. I took both of the phones, simultaneously, on two routes, one walking and one in a vehicle. The following are my conclusions: Please note that before I began my tests, I closed all previously opened apps on both devices and performed a system reboot. During the test, I held one device in my right hand and the other in my left. 1. Assuming that there are no interruptions such as incoming phone calls, SMS messages, etc, to my surprise, the app performed identically on both devices. 2. Any interruptions during navigation, such as incoming calls, SMS messages, etc caused some navigation delay on the 5 S. Also, screen refresh rates and VoiceOver response time was noticeably slower on the 5 S after experiencing said interruptions. 3. The battery drain on the 5 S was significantly greater than on the 6 Plus. Finally, I have decided to upgrade my 5 S to 8.1.2. Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 9:50 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: How About Sending Apple Some Love Hi Mark, I would be quite interested in your walk-through of Apple Maps as well and I'm sure others are, so please do post it online or, if you do a review or Podcast on some place like Applevis let the list know. What I don't logically understand is why Apple Maps on a 6 Plus running 8.1.2 should be a much better experience than on a 5S running 8.1.2. Apart from the larger screen there is little difference between the two phones as far as I can tell when it comes to the components which effect Apple Maps. You said yourself that you did not have 8.1.2 installed on your 5S. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 9:13 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: How About Sending Apple Some Love Hello Krister, First let me say that, from a VoiceOver perspective especially, there is a big difference between the iOS 7.1.2 and the iOS 8.1.2 version of Apple Maps, the latter being much better and more streamline in almost every aspect. Second, Apple Maps now uses Tom-Tom as it's mapping source so its accuracy rivals that of Google Maps. Third, in my opinion only, version 8.1.2, in general, and Apple Maps, specifically, does not perform as well on the 5 S and earlier models as it does on the 6 series. The difference to me at least is astonishing. Keep in mind that while I did not install 8.1.2 on my own 5 S, I did use it quite a bit on those with which I have access and was not that impressed. Finally, as I really don't like Apple Maps 7.1.2, when you have access to iOS 8.1.2, please send me your contact info, off-list, and I will be happy to walk you through the Apple Maps, so to speak. Using the app is so simple once several key concepts are understood. In fact, the Apple Maps app is the simplest and most accurate off-the-shelf software GPS interface I've ever used on iOS. And the best part is that one need no vision in order to play it like a fine guitar. Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 1:07 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How About Sending Apple Some Love Hi, Very well said Mark! I couldn't agree more
