RE: Using iPhone while in pocket via Hable One!

2022-01-16 Thread mich verrier
Hi could you or some one elts who has this please do a audio demonstration of 
this? Or a review? I just saw on applevis that there has been interest on sutch 
a thing from people who have tried this. From Mich Verrier from New Liskeard 
Ontario Canada.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: January 17, 2022 2:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using iPhone while in pocket via Hable One!

It may seem different at first to be holding a braille device, but I got used 
to it quite fast.

On 1/17/22, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  wrote:
> Both are Braille devices but Hable is paired through Bluetooth settings.
> Orbit needs a flat surface and cannot itself unlock iPhone in your pocket.
> Harry
>
>> On 17 Jan 2022, at 00:50, Christopher Chaltain 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I still need to go to the web site, but I'm curious how it compares 
>> to the Orbit Writer. I did see that you attach it as a Bluetooth 
>> input device and not a braille device, so that's a big difference right 
>> there.
>>
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Dennis Long
>> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2022 1:09 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Using iPhone while in pocket via Hable One!
>>
>> The rivo2 could be learned by a older person.  The rivo can be used 
>> as a phone and you can play music through it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dennis Long
>> Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro
>>
>>> On Jan 16, 2022, at 1:54 PM, Joshua Hendrickson 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The hable one is a very simple braille keyboard.  I wouldn't bother 
>>> with that Rivo2 if you gave me one for free.  I heard a presentation 
>>> of the Rivo2 and it sounded extremely complicated.  The Hable One 
>>> isn't that complicated.  Someone who is older and knows braille 
>>> would have no trouble learning the Hable, whereas the Rivo2 would be 
>>> much more difficult.
>>>
>>>>> On 1/16/22, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
>>>> What is the difference between that and the Rivo 2?  Forgive my 
>>>> spelling of
>>>>
>>>> that one.
>>>>
>>>> Kay Malmquist
>>>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>>>>
>>>> The most important thing is to try and inspire people so that they 
>>>> can be great in whatever they want to do.
>>>> Kobe Bryant - 1978-2020 - Professional Basketball Player
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2022 9:39 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Using iPhone while in pocket via Hable One!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Check out their website for more details 
>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fia
>>>> mh 
>>>> able.com%2Fhomedata=04%7C01%7C%7Cb699e68e91954ede7a2008d9d923a
>>>> 4a 
>>>> 3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637779569382141869%7
>>>> CU 
>>>> nknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik
>>>> 1h 
>>>> aWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=twvl2Bid9%2BH7JCSGRoIvp%2B7LHPC
>>>> QS
>>>> 0iGsV7KwL3z8i0%3Dreserved=0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   On 16 Jan 2022, at 14:41, GARY WILLIAMS 
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   I have not heard of this keyboard. How does it work, and where 
>>>> can you
>>>>
>>>> get it?
>>>>
>>>>   Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 16, 2022, at 6:52 AM, Joshua Hendrickson 
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I also have a hable one.  I really like mine very much.  I've 
>>>> not had
>>>>
>>>> to many problems when writing text messages either short or longer.
>>>>
>>>> I've also had my phone in my coat pocket and used the Hable One.
>>>> I'm
>>>>
>>>> so glad here in the U.S. I was able to get my hands on one.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   On 1/16/22, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   I have just got a Hable One Braille keyboar

Re: Using iPhone while in pocket via Hable One!

2022-01-16 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
It may seem different at first to be holding a braille device, but I
got used to it quite fast.

On 1/17/22, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  wrote:
> Both are Braille devices but Hable is paired through Bluetooth settings.
> Orbit needs a flat surface and cannot itself unlock iPhone in your pocket.
> Harry
>
>> On 17 Jan 2022, at 00:50, Christopher Chaltain 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I still need to go to the web site, but I'm curious how it compares to
>> the Orbit Writer. I did see that you attach it as a Bluetooth input device
>> and not a braille device, so that's a big difference right there.
>>
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Dennis Long
>> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2022 1:09 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Using iPhone while in pocket via Hable One!
>>
>> The rivo2 could be learned by a older person.  The rivo can be used as a
>> phone and you can play music through it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dennis Long
>> Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro
>>
>>> On Jan 16, 2022, at 1:54 PM, Joshua Hendrickson 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The hable one is a very simple braille keyboard.  I wouldn't bother
>>> with that Rivo2 if you gave me one for free.  I heard a presentation
>>> of the Rivo2 and it sounded extremely complicated.  The Hable One
>>> isn't that complicated.  Someone who is older and knows braille would
>>> have no trouble learning the Hable, whereas the Rivo2 would be much
>>> more difficult.
>>>
>>>>> On 1/16/22, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
>>>> What is the difference between that and the Rivo 2?  Forgive my
>>>> spelling of
>>>>
>>>> that one.
>>>>
>>>> Kay Malmquist
>>>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>>>>
>>>> The most important thing is to try and inspire people so that they
>>>> can be great in whatever they want to do.
>>>> Kobe Bryant - 1978-2020 - Professional Basketball Player
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2022 9:39 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Using iPhone while in pocket via Hable One!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Check out their website for more details
>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fiamh
>>>> able.com%2Fhomedata=04%7C01%7C%7Cb699e68e91954ede7a2008d9d923a4a
>>>> 3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637779569382141869%7CU
>>>> nknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1h
>>>> aWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=twvl2Bid9%2BH7JCSGRoIvp%2B7LHPCQS
>>>> 0iGsV7KwL3z8i0%3Dreserved=0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   On 16 Jan 2022, at 14:41, GARY WILLIAMS
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   I have not heard of this keyboard. How does it work, and where
>>>> can you
>>>>
>>>> get it?
>>>>
>>>>   Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 16, 2022, at 6:52 AM, Joshua Hendrickson
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I also have a hable one.  I really like mine very much.  I've
>>>> not had
>>>>
>>>> to many problems when writing text messages either short or longer.
>>>>
>>>> I've also had my phone in my coat pocket and used the Hable One.
>>>> I'm
>>>>
>>>> so glad here in the U.S. I was able to get my hands on one.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   On 1/16/22, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   I have just got a Hable One Braille keyboard which  means I
>>>> can now
>>>>
>>>> leave my
>>>>
>>>>   iPhone zipped up in my jacket pocket while I’m out and about.
>>>> One great
>>>>
>>>>   feature is that it can wake and unlock the iPhone without
>>>> delving through
>>>>
>>>>   coats and zips. It has several proprietary shortcuts for text
>>>> editing or
>>>>
>>>>   interaction commands and for evoking Siri - otherwise it is a
>>>

Re: Using iPhone while in pocket via Hable One!

2022-01-16 Thread 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone
Both are Braille devices but Hable is paired through Bluetooth settings. Orbit 
needs a flat surface and cannot itself unlock iPhone in your pocket. 
Harry

> On 17 Jan 2022, at 00:50, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> I still need to go to the web site, but I'm curious how it compares to the 
> Orbit Writer. I did see that you attach it as a Bluetooth input device and 
> not a braille device, so that's a big difference right there.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
> Long
> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2022 1:09 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Using iPhone while in pocket via Hable One!
> 
> The rivo2 could be learned by a older person.  The rivo can be used as a 
> phone and you can play music through it.
> 
> 
> 
> Dennis Long
> Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro
> 
>> On Jan 16, 2022, at 1:54 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> 
>> The hable one is a very simple braille keyboard.  I wouldn't bother 
>> with that Rivo2 if you gave me one for free.  I heard a presentation 
>> of the Rivo2 and it sounded extremely complicated.  The Hable One 
>> isn't that complicated.  Someone who is older and knows braille would 
>> have no trouble learning the Hable, whereas the Rivo2 would be much 
>> more difficult.
>> 
>>>> On 1/16/22, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
>>> What is the difference between that and the Rivo 2?  Forgive my 
>>> spelling of
>>> 
>>> that one.
>>> 
>>> Kay Malmquist
>>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> The most important thing is to try and inspire people so that they 
>>> can be great in whatever they want to do.
>>> Kobe Bryant - 1978-2020 - Professional Basketball Player
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2022 9:39 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Using iPhone while in pocket via Hable One!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Check out their website for more details 
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fiamh
>>> able.com%2Fhomedata=04%7C01%7C%7Cb699e68e91954ede7a2008d9d923a4a
>>> 3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637779569382141869%7CU
>>> nknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1h
>>> aWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=twvl2Bid9%2BH7JCSGRoIvp%2B7LHPCQS
>>> 0iGsV7KwL3z8i0%3Dreserved=0
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   On 16 Jan 2022, at 14:41, GARY WILLIAMS 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   I have not heard of this keyboard. How does it work, and where 
>>> can you
>>> 
>>> get it?
>>> 
>>>   Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 16, 2022, at 6:52 AM, Joshua Hendrickson 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I also have a hable one.  I really like mine very much.  I've 
>>> not had
>>> 
>>> to many problems when writing text messages either short or longer.
>>> 
>>> I've also had my phone in my coat pocket and used the Hable One.  
>>> I'm
>>> 
>>> so glad here in the U.S. I was able to get my hands on one.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   On 1/16/22, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>   I have just got a Hable One Braille keyboard which  means I 
>>> can now
>>> 
>>> leave my
>>> 
>>>   iPhone zipped up in my jacket pocket while I’m out and about. 
>>> One great
>>> 
>>>   feature is that it can wake and unlock the iPhone without 
>>> delving through
>>> 
>>>   coats and zips. It has several proprietary shortcuts for text 
>>> editing or
>>> 
>>>   interaction commands and for evoking Siri - otherwise it is a 
>>> usual
>>> 
>>>   pocket-sized Braille keyboard. It is laid out like a Braille 
>>> Screen
>>> 
>>> Input
>>> 
>>>   keyboard with dots 7 and 8 but no Space bar - for commands, 
>>> you mostly just
>>> 
>>>   long press the keys instead of adding in the space. I’ve used 
>>> it for
>>> 
>>> a
>>> 
>>>   couple of days and for the out and about or quick use scenario 
>>> it is
>>> 
>>> very

RE: Using iPhone while in pocket via Hable One!

2022-01-16 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I still need to go to the web site, but I'm curious how it compares to the 
Orbit Writer. I did see that you attach it as a Bluetooth input device and not 
a braille device, so that's a big difference right there.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2022 1:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using iPhone while in pocket via Hable One!

The rivo2 could be learned by a older person.  The rivo can be used as a phone 
and you can play music through it.



Dennis Long
Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro

> On Jan 16, 2022, at 1:54 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> The hable one is a very simple braille keyboard.  I wouldn't bother 
> with that Rivo2 if you gave me one for free.  I heard a presentation 
> of the Rivo2 and it sounded extremely complicated.  The Hable One 
> isn't that complicated.  Someone who is older and knows braille would 
> have no trouble learning the Hable, whereas the Rivo2 would be much 
> more difficult.
> 
>> On 1/16/22, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
>> What is the difference between that and the Rivo 2?  Forgive my 
>> spelling of
>> 
>> that one.
>> 
>> Kay Malmquist
>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>> 
>> The most important thing is to try and inspire people so that they 
>> can be great in whatever they want to do.
>> Kobe Bryant - 1978-2020 - Professional Basketball Player
>> 
>> 
>>  - Original Message -
>>  From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone
>>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>  Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2022 9:39 AM
>>  Subject: Re: Using iPhone while in pocket via Hable One!
>> 
>> 
>>  Check out their website for more details 
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fiamh
>> able.com%2Fhomedata=04%7C01%7C%7Cb699e68e91954ede7a2008d9d923a4a
>> 3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637779569382141869%7CU
>> nknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1h
>> aWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=twvl2Bid9%2BH7JCSGRoIvp%2B7LHPCQS
>> 0iGsV7KwL3z8i0%3Dreserved=0
>> 
>> 
>>On 16 Jan 2022, at 14:41, GARY WILLIAMS 
>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>I have not heard of this keyboard. How does it work, and where 
>> can you
>> 
>> get it?
>> 
>>Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>>  On Jan 16, 2022, at 6:52 AM, Joshua Hendrickson 
>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  I also have a hable one.  I really like mine very much.  I've 
>> not had
>> 
>>  to many problems when writing text messages either short or longer.
>> 
>>  I've also had my phone in my coat pocket and used the Hable One.  
>> I'm
>> 
>>  so glad here in the U.S. I was able to get my hands on one.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>On 1/16/22, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>I have just got a Hable One Braille keyboard which  means I 
>> can now
>> 
>> leave my
>> 
>>iPhone zipped up in my jacket pocket while I’m out and about. 
>> One great
>> 
>>feature is that it can wake and unlock the iPhone without 
>> delving through
>> 
>>coats and zips. It has several proprietary shortcuts for text 
>> editing or
>> 
>>interaction commands and for evoking Siri - otherwise it is a 
>> usual
>> 
>>pocket-sized Braille keyboard. It is laid out like a Braille 
>> Screen
>> 
>> Input
>> 
>>keyboard with dots 7 and 8 but no Space bar - for commands, 
>> you mostly just
>> 
>>long press the keys instead of adding in the space. I’ve used 
>> it for
>> 
>> a
>> 
>>couple of days and for the out and about or quick use scenario 
>> it is
>> 
>> very
>> 
>>good. I prefer the Orbit Writer for writing longer chunks of 
>> text and its
>> 
>>Perkins layout is less tiring for that task. Expensive but 
>> effective
>> 
>> and not
>> 
>>many keyboards can wake up and unlock your iPhone and control 
>> all its
>> 
>>functions while in your pocket!
>> 
>>Here is thei Hable One website 
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fiamh
>> able.com%2Fhomedata=04%7C01%7C%7Cb699e68e91954ede7a2008d9d923a4a
>> 3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637779569382141869%7CU
>> nknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLC

Re: Using iPhone while in pocket via Hable One!

2022-01-16 Thread Dennis Long
The rivo2 could be learned by a older person.  The rivo can be used as a phone 
and you can play music through it.



Dennis Long
Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro

> On Jan 16, 2022, at 1:54 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> The hable one is a very simple braille keyboard.  I wouldn't bother
> with that Rivo2 if you gave me one for free.  I heard a presentation
> of the Rivo2 and it sounded extremely complicated.  The Hable One
> isn't that complicated.  Someone who is older and knows braille would
> have no trouble learning the Hable, whereas the Rivo2 would be much
> more difficult.
> 
>> On 1/16/22, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
>> What is the difference between that and the Rivo 2?  Forgive my spelling of
>> 
>> that one.
>> 
>> Kay Malmquist
>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>> 
>> The most important thing is to try and inspire people so that they can be
>> great in whatever they want to do.
>> Kobe Bryant - 1978-2020 - Professional Basketball Player
>> 
>> 
>>  - Original Message -
>>  From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone
>>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>  Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2022 9:39 AM
>>  Subject: Re: Using iPhone while in pocket via Hable One!
>> 
>> 
>>  Check out their website for more details https://iamhable.com/home
>> 
>> 
>>On 16 Jan 2022, at 14:41, GARY WILLIAMS 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>I have not heard of this keyboard. How does it work, and where can you
>> 
>> get it?
>> 
>>Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>>  On Jan 16, 2022, at 6:52 AM, Joshua Hendrickson 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  I also have a hable one.  I really like mine very much.  I've not
>> had
>> 
>>  to many problems when writing text messages either short or longer.
>> 
>>  I've also had my phone in my coat pocket and used the Hable One.  I'm
>> 
>>  so glad here in the U.S. I was able to get my hands on one.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>On 1/16/22, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>I have just got a Hable One Braille keyboard which  means I can now
>> 
>> leave my
>> 
>>iPhone zipped up in my jacket pocket while I’m out and about. One
>> great
>> 
>>feature is that it can wake and unlock the iPhone without delving
>> through
>> 
>>coats and zips. It has several proprietary shortcuts for text
>> editing or
>> 
>>interaction commands and for evoking Siri - otherwise it is a usual
>> 
>>pocket-sized Braille keyboard. It is laid out like a Braille Screen
>> 
>> Input
>> 
>>keyboard with dots 7 and 8 but no Space bar - for commands, you
>> mostly just
>> 
>>long press the keys instead of adding in the space. I’ve used it for
>> 
>> a
>> 
>>couple of days and for the out and about or quick use scenario it is
>> 
>> very
>> 
>>good. I prefer the Orbit Writer for writing longer chunks of text
>> and its
>> 
>>Perkins layout is less tiring for that task. Expensive but effective
>> 
>> and not
>> 
>>many keyboards can wake up and unlock your iPhone and control all
>> its
>> 
>>functions while in your pocket!
>> 
>>Here is thei Hable One website https://iamhable.com/home
>> 
>>Available from RNIB here in UK
>> 
>>Harry
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Using iPhone while in pocket via Hable One!

2022-01-16 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
The hable one is a very simple braille keyboard.  I wouldn't bother
with that Rivo2 if you gave me one for free.  I heard a presentation
of the Rivo2 and it sounded extremely complicated.  The Hable One
isn't that complicated.  Someone who is older and knows braille would
have no trouble learning the Hable, whereas the Rivo2 would be much
more difficult.

On 1/16/22, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
> What is the difference between that and the Rivo 2?  Forgive my spelling of
>
> that one.
>
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>
> The most important thing is to try and inspire people so that they can be
> great in whatever they want to do.
> Kobe Bryant - 1978-2020 - Professional Basketball Player
>
>
>   - Original Message -
>   From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2022 9:39 AM
>   Subject: Re: Using iPhone while in pocket via Hable One!
>
>
>   Check out their website for more details https://iamhable.com/home
>
>
> On 16 Jan 2022, at 14:41, GARY WILLIAMS 
> wrote:
>
>
> I have not heard of this keyboard. How does it work, and where can you
>
> get it?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>   On Jan 16, 2022, at 6:52 AM, Joshua Hendrickson 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>   I also have a hable one.  I really like mine very much.  I've not
> had
>
>   to many problems when writing text messages either short or longer.
>
>   I've also had my phone in my coat pocket and used the Hable One.  I'm
>
>   so glad here in the U.S. I was able to get my hands on one.
>
>
>
> On 1/16/22, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
> wrote:
>
> I have just got a Hable One Braille keyboard which  means I can now
>
> leave my
>
> iPhone zipped up in my jacket pocket while I’m out and about. One
> great
>
> feature is that it can wake and unlock the iPhone without delving
> through
>
> coats and zips. It has several proprietary shortcuts for text
> editing or
>
> interaction commands and for evoking Siri - otherwise it is a usual
>
> pocket-sized Braille keyboard. It is laid out like a Braille Screen
>
> Input
>
> keyboard with dots 7 and 8 but no Space bar - for commands, you
> mostly just
>
> long press the keys instead of adding in the space. I’ve used it for
>
> a
>
> couple of days and for the out and about or quick use scenario it is
>
> very
>
> good. I prefer the Orbit Writer for writing longer chunks of text
> and its
>
> Perkins layout is less tiring for that task. Expensive but effective
>
> and not
>
> many keyboards can wake up and unlock your iPhone and control all
> its
>
> functions while in your pocket!
>
> Here is thei Hable One website https://iamhable.com/home
>
> Available from RNIB here in UK
>
> Harry
>
>
>
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>
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Re: Using iPhone while in pocket via Hable One!

2022-01-16 Thread 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone
Hable One uses the layout of Braille screen input

> On 16 Jan 2022, at 17:42, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
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> 
> What is the difference between that and the Rivo 2?  Forgive my spelling of 
> that one.
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> - Original Message -
> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2022 9:39 AM
> Subject: Re: Using iPhone while in pocket via Hable One!
> 
> Check out their website for more details https://iamhable.com/home
> 
>> On 16 Jan 2022, at 14:41, GARY WILLIAMS  wrote:
>> 
>> I have not heard of this keyboard. How does it work, and where can you get 
>> it?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 16, 2022, at 6:52 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I also have a hable one.  I really like mine very much.  I've not had
>>> to many problems when writing text messages either short or longer.
>>> I've also had my phone in my coat pocket and used the Hable One.  I'm
>>> so glad here in the U.S. I was able to get my hands on one.
>>> 
>>>>> On 1/16/22, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  wrote:
>>>> I have just got a Hable One Braille keyboard which  means I can now leave 
>>>> my
>>>> iPhone zipped up in my jacket pocket while I’m out and about. One great
>>>> feature is that it can wake and unlock the iPhone without delving through
>>>> coats and zips. It has several proprietary shortcuts for text editing or
>>>> interaction commands and for evoking Siri - otherwise it is a usual
>>>> pocket-sized Braille keyboard. It is laid out like a Braille Screen Input
>>>> keyboard with dots 7 and 8 but no Space bar - for commands, you mostly just
>>>> long press the keys instead of adding in the space. I’ve used it for a
>>>> couple of days and for the out and about or quick use scenario it is very
>>>> good. I prefer the Orbit Writer for writing longer chunks of text and its
>>>> Perkins layout is less tiring for that task. Expensive but effective and 
>>>> not
>>>> many keyboards can wake up and unlock your iPhone and control all its
>>>> functions while in your pocket!
>>>> Here is thei Hable One website https://iamhable.com/home
>>>> Available from RNIB here in UK
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Re: Using iPhone while in pocket via Hable One!

2022-01-16 Thread Kay Malmquist
What is the difference between that and the Rivo 2?  Forgive my spelling of 
that one.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2022 9:39 AM
  Subject: Re: Using iPhone while in pocket via Hable One!


  Check out their website for more details https://iamhable.com/home


On 16 Jan 2022, at 14:41, GARY WILLIAMS  
wrote:


I have not heard of this keyboard. How does it work, and where can you 
get it?

Sent from my iPhone


  On Jan 16, 2022, at 6:52 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  
wrote:



  I also have a hable one.  I really like mine very much.  I've not had

  to many problems when writing text messages either short or longer.

  I've also had my phone in my coat pocket and used the Hable One.  I'm

  so glad here in the U.S. I was able to get my hands on one.



On 1/16/22, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
wrote:

I have just got a Hable One Braille keyboard which  means I can now 
leave my

iPhone zipped up in my jacket pocket while I’m out and about. One 
great

feature is that it can wake and unlock the iPhone without delving 
through

coats and zips. It has several proprietary shortcuts for text 
editing or

interaction commands and for evoking Siri - otherwise it is a usual

pocket-sized Braille keyboard. It is laid out like a Braille Screen 
Input

keyboard with dots 7 and 8 but no Space bar - for commands, you 
mostly just

long press the keys instead of adding in the space. I’ve used it for 
a

couple of days and for the out and about or quick use scenario it is 
very

good. I prefer the Orbit Writer for writing longer chunks of text 
and its

Perkins layout is less tiring for that task. Expensive but effective 
and not

many keyboards can wake up and unlock your iPhone and control all 
its

functions while in your pocket!

Here is thei Hable One website https://iamhable.com/home

Available from RNIB here in UK

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Re: Using iPhone while in pocket via Hable One!

2022-01-16 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
I heard about the Hable One from I think it was the blind apple list
that isn't this list.  I was kind of a beta tester for the Hable One
here in the United States.  I paid $200 for the device instead of the
usual $250.  I don't know if that deal is still going on.  The device
is small enough to fit into a pocket.  You also don't set it down on a
hard surface like a table top, you hold the device in your hands.
This was a little different at first, but I quickly got used to it.  I
really enjoy using my device.  I can control the phone and do things
like, go from page to page through my apps, go from the top to the
bottom of the screen, do searches within different apps, and use the
app switcher and get home on whatever page I'm on.  The very nice
thing about the Hable is, that it appears on your iPhone not as any
kind of braille device, but a regular bluetooth device, just like any
other device like a speaker or headset.  I highly recommend anyone
interested in the Hable One, to visit the website, and to also
download the manual, or the user guide.

On 1/16/22, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  wrote:
> I am in the uk. If in USA Google may be useful or their website
> https://iamhable.com/home
>
>> On 16 Jan 2022, at 14:59, Casey Wollner  wrote:
>>
>> Hi where were you able to get this in the united states and what was the
>> price?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2022 5:52 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Using iPhone while in pocket via Hable One!
>>
>> I also have a hable one.  I really like mine very much.  I've not had
>> to many problems when writing text messages either short or longer.
>> I've also had my phone in my coat pocket and used the Hable One.  I'm
>> so glad here in the U.S. I was able to get my hands on one.
>>
>>> On 1/16/22, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  wrote:
>>> I have just got a Hable One Braille keyboard which  means I can now leave
>>> my
>>> iPhone zipped up in my jacket pocket while I’m out and about. One great
>>> feature is that it can wake and unlock the iPhone without delving
>>> through
>>> coats and zips. It has several proprietary shortcuts for text editing or
>>> interaction commands and for evoking Siri - otherwise it is a usual
>>> pocket-sized Braille keyboard. It is laid out like a Braille Screen
>>> Input
>>> keyboard with dots 7 and 8 but no Space bar - for commands, you mostly
>>> just
>>> long press the keys instead of adding in the space. I’ve used it for a
>>> couple of days and for the out and about or quick use scenario it is
>>> very
>>> good. I prefer the Orbit Writer for writing longer chunks of text and
>>> its
>>> Perkins layout is less tiring for that task. Expensive but effective and
>>> not
>>> many keyboards can wake up and unlock your iPhone and control all its
>>> functions while in your pocket!
>>> Here is thei Hable One website https://iamhable.com/home
>>> Available from RNIB here in UK
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Re: Using iPhone while in pocket via Hable One!

2022-01-16 Thread 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone
I am in the uk. If in USA Google may be useful or their website 
https://iamhable.com/home

> On 16 Jan 2022, at 14:59, Casey Wollner  wrote:
> 
> Hi where were you able to get this in the united states and what was the 
> price?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
> Hendrickson
> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2022 5:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Using iPhone while in pocket via Hable One!
> 
> I also have a hable one.  I really like mine very much.  I've not had
> to many problems when writing text messages either short or longer.
> I've also had my phone in my coat pocket and used the Hable One.  I'm
> so glad here in the U.S. I was able to get my hands on one.
> 
>> On 1/16/22, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  wrote:
>> I have just got a Hable One Braille keyboard which  means I can now leave my
>> iPhone zipped up in my jacket pocket while I’m out and about. One great
>> feature is that it can wake and unlock the iPhone without delving through
>> coats and zips. It has several proprietary shortcuts for text editing or
>> interaction commands and for evoking Siri - otherwise it is a usual
>> pocket-sized Braille keyboard. It is laid out like a Braille Screen Input
>> keyboard with dots 7 and 8 but no Space bar - for commands, you mostly just
>> long press the keys instead of adding in the space. I’ve used it for a
>> couple of days and for the out and about or quick use scenario it is very
>> good. I prefer the Orbit Writer for writing longer chunks of text and its
>> Perkins layout is less tiring for that task. Expensive but effective and not
>> many keyboards can wake up and unlock your iPhone and control all its
>> functions while in your pocket!
>> Here is thei Hable One website https://iamhable.com/home
>> Available from RNIB here in UK
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Re: Using iPhone while in pocket via Hable One!

2022-01-16 Thread 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone
Check out their website for more details https://iamhable.com/home

> On 16 Jan 2022, at 14:41, GARY WILLIAMS  wrote:
> 
> I have not heard of this keyboard. How does it work, and where can you get 
> it?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 16, 2022, at 6:52 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> 
>> I also have a hable one.  I really like mine very much.  I've not had
>> to many problems when writing text messages either short or longer.
>> I've also had my phone in my coat pocket and used the Hable One.  I'm
>> so glad here in the U.S. I was able to get my hands on one.
>> 
 On 1/16/22, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  wrote:
>>> I have just got a Hable One Braille keyboard which  means I can now leave my
>>> iPhone zipped up in my jacket pocket while I’m out and about. One great
>>> feature is that it can wake and unlock the iPhone without delving through
>>> coats and zips. It has several proprietary shortcuts for text editing or
>>> interaction commands and for evoking Siri - otherwise it is a usual
>>> pocket-sized Braille keyboard. It is laid out like a Braille Screen Input
>>> keyboard with dots 7 and 8 but no Space bar - for commands, you mostly just
>>> long press the keys instead of adding in the space. I’ve used it for a
>>> couple of days and for the out and about or quick use scenario it is very
>>> good. I prefer the Orbit Writer for writing longer chunks of text and its
>>> Perkins layout is less tiring for that task. Expensive but effective and not
>>> many keyboards can wake up and unlock your iPhone and control all its
>>> functions while in your pocket!
>>> Here is thei Hable One website https://iamhable.com/home
>>> Available from RNIB here in UK
>>> Harry
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RE: Using iPhone while in pocket via Hable One!

2022-01-16 Thread Casey Wollner
Hi where were you able to get this in the united states and what was the price?

-Original Message-
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using iPhone while in pocket via Hable One!

I also have a hable one.  I really like mine very much.  I've not had
to many problems when writing text messages either short or longer.
I've also had my phone in my coat pocket and used the Hable One.  I'm
so glad here in the U.S. I was able to get my hands on one.

On 1/16/22, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  wrote:
> I have just got a Hable One Braille keyboard which  means I can now leave my
> iPhone zipped up in my jacket pocket while I’m out and about. One great
> feature is that it can wake and unlock the iPhone without delving through
> coats and zips. It has several proprietary shortcuts for text editing or
> interaction commands and for evoking Siri - otherwise it is a usual
> pocket-sized Braille keyboard. It is laid out like a Braille Screen Input
> keyboard with dots 7 and 8 but no Space bar - for commands, you mostly just
> long press the keys instead of adding in the space. I’ve used it for a
> couple of days and for the out and about or quick use scenario it is very
> good. I prefer the Orbit Writer for writing longer chunks of text and its
> Perkins layout is less tiring for that task. Expensive but effective and not
> many keyboards can wake up and unlock your iPhone and control all its
> functions while in your pocket!
> Here is thei Hable One website https://iamhable.com/home
> Available from RNIB here in UK
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Re: Using iPhone while in pocket via Hable One!

2022-01-16 Thread GARY WILLIAMS
I have not heard of this keyboard. How does it work, and where can you get it?

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> On Jan 16, 2022, at 6:52 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> I also have a hable one.  I really like mine very much.  I've not had
> to many problems when writing text messages either short or longer.
> I've also had my phone in my coat pocket and used the Hable One.  I'm
> so glad here in the U.S. I was able to get my hands on one.
> 
>> On 1/16/22, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  wrote:
>> I have just got a Hable One Braille keyboard which  means I can now leave my
>> iPhone zipped up in my jacket pocket while I’m out and about. One great
>> feature is that it can wake and unlock the iPhone without delving through
>> coats and zips. It has several proprietary shortcuts for text editing or
>> interaction commands and for evoking Siri - otherwise it is a usual
>> pocket-sized Braille keyboard. It is laid out like a Braille Screen Input
>> keyboard with dots 7 and 8 but no Space bar - for commands, you mostly just
>> long press the keys instead of adding in the space. I’ve used it for a
>> couple of days and for the out and about or quick use scenario it is very
>> good. I prefer the Orbit Writer for writing longer chunks of text and its
>> Perkins layout is less tiring for that task. Expensive but effective and not
>> many keyboards can wake up and unlock your iPhone and control all its
>> functions while in your pocket!
>> Here is thei Hable One website https://iamhable.com/home
>> Available from RNIB here in UK
>> Harry
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Re: Using iPhone while in pocket via Hable One!

2022-01-16 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
I also have a hable one.  I really like mine very much.  I've not had
to many problems when writing text messages either short or longer.
I've also had my phone in my coat pocket and used the Hable One.  I'm
so glad here in the U.S. I was able to get my hands on one.

On 1/16/22, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  wrote:
> I have just got a Hable One Braille keyboard which  means I can now leave my
> iPhone zipped up in my jacket pocket while I’m out and about. One great
> feature is that it can wake and unlock the iPhone without delving through
> coats and zips. It has several proprietary shortcuts for text editing or
> interaction commands and for evoking Siri - otherwise it is a usual
> pocket-sized Braille keyboard. It is laid out like a Braille Screen Input
> keyboard with dots 7 and 8 but no Space bar - for commands, you mostly just
> long press the keys instead of adding in the space. I’ve used it for a
> couple of days and for the out and about or quick use scenario it is very
> good. I prefer the Orbit Writer for writing longer chunks of text and its
> Perkins layout is less tiring for that task. Expensive but effective and not
> many keyboards can wake up and unlock your iPhone and control all its
> functions while in your pocket!
> Here is thei Hable One website https://iamhable.com/home
> Available from RNIB here in UK
> Harry
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Using iPhone while in pocket via Hable One!

2022-01-16 Thread 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone
I have just got a Hable One Braille keyboard which  means I can now leave my 
iPhone zipped up in my jacket pocket while I’m out and about. One great feature 
is that it can wake and unlock the iPhone without delving through coats and 
zips. It has several proprietary shortcuts for text editing or interaction 
commands and for evoking Siri - otherwise it is a usual pocket-sized Braille 
keyboard. It is laid out like a Braille Screen Input keyboard with dots 7 and 8 
but no Space bar - for commands, you mostly just long press the keys instead of 
adding in the space. I’ve used it for a couple of days and for the out and 
about or quick use scenario it is very good. I prefer the Orbit Writer for 
writing longer chunks of text and its Perkins layout is less tiring for that 
task. Expensive but effective and not many keyboards can wake up and unlock 
your iPhone and control all its functions while in your pocket!
Here is thei Hable One website https://iamhable.com/home
Available from RNIB here in UK 
Harry

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