Re: VoiceOver stopped working on iPhone SE with iOS 11

2017-09-21 Thread Shai 
Hello Cris,
I would second Davi's suggestion. I would also suggest reporting it to
Apple Accessibility if you haven't done so already. I had a similar
incident occur on my iPhone6S. Here, VoiceOver was speaking, but I
could not flick across my apps on the home screen or power off the
phone. I attempted to toggle VoiceOver off and on via the triple click
home, but to no avail. Worse was when I attempted to hold down the
power and home buttons together to perform a reboot, I could not do so
as Siri would come up. The support person told me to dismiss the Siri
tone and keep holding these down. He also told me to press the home
button once and try flicking across the screen since my phone did not
reboot immediately.  The phone did restart again and since then it is
working well.



On 9/20/17, Cris Ali  wrote:
> Hello folks,
> I upgraded iPhone SE to iOS 11 last night.  Everything went smoothly.
> Voiceover was working fine. I have a pass code on my iPhone.  This morning
> voiceover stopped talking.  Now I am stuck.
> I can't do system restore because I have no voiceover input at all.  Because
> I have a pass code I can't get my iPhone to trust the computer to try doing
> restore using iTunes.
> I tried the home key triple clicks several times to turn voiceover on and
> off.  It does respond, but voiceover still won't talk.  I know that this
> triple click of the home key works fine because the screen clicks sound gets
> turned on and off with this command.  I also know that the speakers work
> because I made a friend of mine call me via facetime and I was able to talk
> to her.
> Is there a magic trick to try before I seek sighted help to do a system
> restore?
> Cheers,
> Cris  night
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Re: VoiceOver stopped working on iPhone SE with iOS 11

2017-09-21 Thread Davy Cuppens 
Just try a hard reset by pushing the home and power button for 15 seconds.

From: Mary Otten 
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 7:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: VoiceOver stopped working on iPhone SE with iOS 11

I saw thread about someone losing VoiceOver speech after an upgrade. It turns 
out that their volume have been reduced to two or 3%, at which point VoiceOver 
wasn't talking. So maybe you can check all of your volumes somehow? At least 
try the volume up button a bunch of times to see if that helps? Maybe you did 
that already.



Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 20, 2017, at 10:40 AM, Cris Ali <filasti...@hotmail.com> wrote:


  Hello folks,
  I upgraded iPhone SE to iOS 11 last night.  Everything went smoothly.  
Voiceover was working fine. I have a pass code on my iPhone.  This morning 
voiceover stopped talking.  Now I am stuck.
  I can’t do system restore because I have no voiceover input at all.  Because 
I have a pass code I can’t get my iPhone to trust the computer to try doing 
restore using iTunes.
  I tried the home key triple clicks several times to turn voiceover on and 
off.  It does respond, but voiceover still won’t talk.  I know that this triple 
click of the home key works fine because the screen clicks sound gets turned on 
and off with this command.  I also know that the speakers work because I made a 
friend of mine call me via facetime and I was able to talk to her.
  Is there a magic trick to try before I seek sighted help to do a system 
restore?
  Cheers,
  Cris  night

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RE: Voiceover stopped working on iPhone SE with iOS 11

2017-09-20 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Hi Chris,

Actually, sadam is right, if you put the phone in recovery mode it does not 
matter if you have a passcode, if you have Find my iPhone turned on etc., 
recovery mode bypasses all of that.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cris Ali
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 7:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voiceover stopped working on iPhone SE with iOS 11

Sadam,
Unfortunately it is not possible to do restore when you have this kind of 
problem if you have a passcode on your phone.  You can’t give the ok to the 
phone to trust the computer without typing your passcode first.  Without 
voiceover, you will not be able to type the passcode without sighted help.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sadam Ahmed
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 10:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>; Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>>
Subject: Re: VoiceOver stopped working on iPhone SE with iOS 11



I did try invoking Sirirepeatedly to no avail.

The suggestion to use headphones is a good one give it a go.

If that fails I'd recommend sighted assistance to get through the pass code.

Otherwise, restore from a recent backup.

On 21/09/2017 8:09 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hi Chris,

Donna’s suggestion to u se a headset is a good one and also Mary’s suggestion 
to try and raise the volume is something you have to try. For me everything was 
fine at first after the update, but at one point I didn’t hear Voiceover any 
more, either and it turned out that just like the other person said the volume 
just dropped to 0 or close to 0. Repeatedly pressing volume up brought it back 
and it hasn’t done this again since that one time. Maybe Apple has built that 
in just to mess with us *smile*.


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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 1:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: VoiceOver stopped working on iPhone SE with iOS 11

Hi Chris

I have 2 suggestions..Ask Siri to turn on voiceover. My 2nd suggestion is..Plug 
in a pair of earphones & see if sound &/voiceover can be heard when using 
earphones.

Donna

Hello folks,
I upgraded iPhone SE to iOS 11 last night.  Everything went smoothly.  
Voiceover was working fine. I have a pass code on my iPhone.  This morning 
voiceover stopped talking.  Now I am stuck.
I can’t do system restore because I have no voiceover input at all.  Because I 
have a pass code I can’t get my iPhone to trust the computer to try doing 
restore using iTunes.
I tried the home key triple clicks several times to turn voiceover on and off.  
It does respond, but voiceover still won’t talk.  I know that this triple click 
of the home key works fine because the screen clicks sound gets turned on and 
off with this command.  I also know that the speakers work because I made a 
friend of mine call me via facetime and I was able to talk to her.
Is there a magic trick to try before I seek sighted help to do a system restore?
Cheers,
Cris  night


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RE: Voiceover stopped working on iPhone SE with iOS 11

2017-09-20 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
That’s a pretty drastic measure for a small issue like the volume dropping to 
0%. If he had plugged in a set of headphones he would have probably had volume 
and he could have turned the rotor to volume, then disconnected the headsets 
and swiped up. In any case, I wonder if Chris pressed and held the volume 
button because that does not work, you just have to press volume up many times 
and let go in between for the volume to come up.


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Sadam Ahmed
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 8:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Cris Ali <filasti...@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Voiceover stopped working on iPhone SE with iOS 11



You can get around this by putting the device in recovery mode.

I did it with the 7.

After 15-20  seconds it'll come up and say there was a problem updating this 
iPhone and do you want to restore or update it.

If it can't update at that point, you'll be able to go through the normal 
process of restoration.
On 21/09/2017 12:55 PM, Cris Ali wrote:
Sadam,
Unfortunately it is not possible to do restore when you have this kind of 
problem if you have a passcode on your phone.  You can’t give the ok to the 
phone to trust the computer without typing your passcode first.  Without 
voiceover, you will not be able to type the passcode without sighted help.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sadam Ahmed
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 10:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>; Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca><mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
Subject: Re: VoiceOver stopped working on iPhone SE with iOS 11



I did try invoking Sirirepeatedly to no avail.

The suggestion to use headphones is a good one give it a go.

If that fails I'd recommend sighted assistance to get through the pass code.

Otherwise, restore from a recent backup.

On 21/09/2017 8:09 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hi Chris,

Donna’s suggestion to u se a headset is a good one and also Mary’s suggestion 
to try and raise the volume is something you have to try. For me everything was 
fine at first after the update, but at one point I didn’t hear Voiceover any 
more, either and it turned out that just like the other person said the volume 
just dropped to 0 or close to 0. Repeatedly pressing volume up brought it back 
and it hasn’t done this again since that one time. Maybe Apple has built that 
in just to mess with us *smile*.


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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 1:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: VoiceOver stopped working on iPhone SE with iOS 11

Hi Chris

I have 2 suggestions..Ask Siri to turn on voiceover. My 2nd suggestion is..Plug 
in a pair of earphones & see if sound &/voiceover can be heard when using 
earphones.

Donna

Hello folks,
I upgraded iPhone SE to iOS 11 last night.  Everything went smoothly.  
Voiceover was working fine. I have a pass code on my iPhone.  This morning 
voiceover stopped talking.  Now I am stuck.
I can’t do system restore because I have no voiceover input at all.  Because I 
have a pass code I can’t get my iPhone to trust the computer to try doing 
restore using iTunes.
I tried the home key triple clicks several times to turn voiceover on and off.  
It does respond, but voiceover still won’t talk.  I know that this triple click 
of the home key works fine because the screen clicks sound gets turned on and 
off with this command.  I also know that the speakers work because I made a 
friend of mine call me via facetime and I was able to talk to her.
Is there a magic trick to try before I seek sighted help to do a system restore?
Cheers,
Cris  night


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Re: Voiceover stopped working on iPhone SE with iOS 11

2017-09-20 Thread Sadam Ahmed 


You can get around this by putting the device in recovery mode.

I did it with the 7.

After 15-20  seconds it'll come up and say there was a problem updating 
this iPhone and do you want to restore or update it.


If it can't update at that point, you'll be able to go through the 
normal process of restoration.


On 21/09/2017 12:55 PM, Cris Ali wrote:


Sadam,

Unfortunately it is not possible to do restore when you have this kind 
of problem if you have a passcode on your phone.  You can’t give the 
ok to the phone to trust the computer without typing your passcode 
first.  Without voiceover, you will not be able to type the passcode 
without sighted help.


*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
Behalf Of *Sadam Ahmed

*Sent:* Wednesday, September 20, 2017 10:34 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com; Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca>
*Subject:* Re: VoiceOver stopped working on iPhone SE with iOS 11

I did try invoking Siri    repeatedly to no avail.

The suggestion to use headphones is a good one give it a go.

If that fails I'd recommend sighted assistance to get through the pass 
code.


Otherwise, restore from a recent backup.

On 21/09/2017 8:09 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Chris,

Donna’s suggestion to u se a headset is a good one and also Mary’s
suggestion to try and raise the volume is something you have to
try. For me everything was fine at first after the update, but at
one point I didn’t hear Voiceover any more, either and it turned
out that just like the other person said the volume just dropped
to 0 or close to 0. Repeatedly pressing volume up brought it back
and it hasn’t done this again since that one time. Maybe Apple has
built that in just to mess with us **smile**.

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Donna
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 20, 2017 1:00 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
    *Subject:* Re: VoiceOver stopped working on iPhone SE with iOS 11

Hi Chris

I have 2 suggestions..Ask Siri to turn on voiceover. My 2nd
suggestion is..Plug in a pair of earphones & see if sound
&/voiceover can be heard when using earphones.

Donna

Hello folks,

I upgraded iPhone SE to iOS 11 last night.  Everything went
smoothly.  Voiceover was working fine. I have a pass code on
my iPhone.  This morning voiceover stopped talking.  Now I am
stuck.

I can’t do system restore because I have no voiceover input at
all.  Because I have a pass code I can’t get my iPhone to
trust the computer to try doing restore using iTunes.

I tried the home key triple clicks several times to turn
voiceover on and off.  It does respond, but voiceover still
won’t talk.  I know that this triple click of the home key
works fine because the screen clicks sound gets turned on and
off with this command.  I also know that the speakers work
because I made a friend of mine call me via facetime and I was
able to talk to her.

Is there a magic trick to try before I seek sighted help to do
a system restore?

Cheers,

Cris  night

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RE: Voiceover stopped working on iPhone SE with iOS 11

2017-09-20 Thread Cris Ali 
Sadam,
Unfortunately it is not possible to do restore when you have this kind of 
problem if you have a passcode on your phone.  You can’t give the ok to the 
phone to trust the computer without typing your passcode first.  Without 
voiceover, you will not be able to type the passcode without sighted help.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sadam Ahmed
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 10:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca>
Subject: Re: VoiceOver stopped working on iPhone SE with iOS 11



I did try invoking Sirirepeatedly to no avail.

The suggestion to use headphones is a good one give it a go.

If that fails I'd recommend sighted assistance to get through the pass code.

Otherwise, restore from a recent backup.

On 21/09/2017 8:09 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hi Chris,

Donna’s suggestion to u se a headset is a good one and also Mary’s suggestion 
to try and raise the volume is something you have to try. For me everything was 
fine at first after the update, but at one point I didn’t hear Voiceover any 
more, either and it turned out that just like the other person said the volume 
just dropped to 0 or close to 0. Repeatedly pressing volume up brought it back 
and it hasn’t done this again since that one time. Maybe Apple has built that 
in just to mess with us *smile*.


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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 1:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: VoiceOver stopped working on iPhone SE with iOS 11

Hi Chris

I have 2 suggestions..Ask Siri to turn on voiceover. My 2nd suggestion is..Plug 
in a pair of earphones & see if sound &/voiceover can be heard when using 
earphones.

Donna

Hello folks,
I upgraded iPhone SE to iOS 11 last night.  Everything went smoothly.  
Voiceover was working fine. I have a pass code on my iPhone.  This morning 
voiceover stopped talking.  Now I am stuck.
I can’t do system restore because I have no voiceover input at all.  Because I 
have a pass code I can’t get my iPhone to trust the computer to try doing 
restore using iTunes.
I tried the home key triple clicks several times to turn voiceover on and off.  
It does respond, but voiceover still won’t talk.  I know that this triple click 
of the home key works fine because the screen clicks sound gets turned on and 
off with this command.  I also know that the speakers work because I made a 
friend of mine call me via facetime and I was able to talk to her.
Is there a magic trick to try before I seek sighted help to do a system restore?
Cheers,
Cris  night


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RE: Voiceover stopped working on iPhone SE with iOS 11

2017-09-20 Thread Cris Ali 
Thanks folks,
Thanks to Gordon I managed to solve the problem.  When I tried the volume 
buttons on the side of the phone, they did not work.  Luckily I added the 
voiceover volume to the rotor while back, but I have forgotten about that.  In 
fact it did not even occur to me to consider the rotor because I have no 
voiceover sound at all.
Gordon suggested to me to try the rotor systematically by making a couple of 
swipes up after doing each rotor’s circle until I land on the volume control.  
I followed his suggestion and it worked.  I was able to raise the volume of 
voiceover up enough to make it audible and be able to manage the phone.
Cheers,
Cris

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 6:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VoiceOver stopped working on iPhone SE with iOS 11

Hi Chris,

Donna’s suggestion to u se a headset is a good one and also Mary’s suggestion 
to try and raise the volume is something you have to try. For me everything was 
fine at first after the update, but at one point I didn’t hear Voiceover any 
more, either and it turned out that just like the other person said the volume 
just dropped to 0 or close to 0. Repeatedly pressing volume up brought it back 
and it hasn’t done this again since that one time. Maybe Apple has built that 
in just to mess with us *smile*.


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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: VoiceOver stopped working on iPhone SE with iOS 11

Hi Chris

I have 2 suggestions..Ask Siri to turn on voiceover. My 2nd suggestion is..Plug 
in a pair of earphones & see if sound &/voiceover can be heard when using 
earphones.

Donna

Hello folks,
I upgraded iPhone SE to iOS 11 last night.  Everything went smoothly.  
Voiceover was working fine. I have a pass code on my iPhone.  This morning 
voiceover stopped talking.  Now I am stuck.
I can’t do system restore because I have no voiceover input at all.  Because I 
have a pass code I can’t get my iPhone to trust the computer to try doing 
restore using iTunes.
I tried the home key triple clicks several times to turn voiceover on and off.  
It does respond, but voiceover still won’t talk.  I know that this triple click 
of the home key works fine because the screen clicks sound gets turned on and 
off with this command.  I also know that the speakers work because I made a 
friend of mine call me via facetime and I was able to talk to her.
Is there a magic trick to try before I seek sighted help to do a system restore?
Cheers,
Cris  night


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Re: VoiceOver stopped working on iPhone SE with iOS 11

2017-09-20 Thread Sadam Ahmed 


I did try invoking Siri    repeatedly to no avail.

The suggestion to use headphones is a good one give it a go.

If that fails I'd recommend sighted assistance to get through the pass 
code.


Otherwise, restore from a recent backup.

On 21/09/2017 8:09 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


Hi Chris,

Donna’s suggestion to u se a headset is a good one and also Mary’s 
suggestion to try and raise the volume is something you have to try. 
For me everything was fine at first after the update, but at one point 
I didn’t hear Voiceover any more, either and it turned out that just 
like the other person said the volume just dropped to 0 or close to 0. 
Repeatedly pressing volume up brought it back and it hasn’t done this 
again since that one time. Maybe Apple has built that in just to mess 
with us **smile**.


*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
Behalf Of *Donna

*Sent:* Wednesday, September 20, 2017 1:00 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: VoiceOver stopped working on iPhone SE with iOS 11

Hi Chris

I have 2 suggestions..Ask Siri to turn on voiceover. My 2nd suggestion 
is..Plug in a pair of earphones & see if sound &/voiceover can be 
heard when using earphones.


Donna

Hello folks,

I upgraded iPhone SE to iOS 11 last night.  Everything went
smoothly.  Voiceover was working fine. I have a pass code on my
iPhone.  This morning voiceover stopped talking.  Now I am stuck.

I can’t do system restore because I have no voiceover input at
all.  Because I have a pass code I can’t get my iPhone to trust
the computer to try doing restore using iTunes.

I tried the home key triple clicks several times to turn voiceover
on and off.  It does respond, but voiceover still won’t talk.  I
know that this triple click of the home key works fine because the
screen clicks sound gets turned on and off with this command.  I
also know that the speakers work because I made a friend of mine
call me via facetime and I was able to talk to her.

Is there a magic trick to try before I seek sighted help to do a
system restore?

Cheers,

Cris  night

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RE: VoiceOver stopped working on iPhone SE with iOS 11

2017-09-20 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Hi Chris,

Donna’s suggestion to u se a headset is a good one and also Mary’s suggestion 
to try and raise the volume is something you have to try. For me everything was 
fine at first after the update, but at one point I didn’t hear Voiceover any 
more, either and it turned out that just like the other person said the volume 
just dropped to 0 or close to 0. Repeatedly pressing volume up brought it back 
and it hasn’t done this again since that one time. Maybe Apple has built that 
in just to mess with us *smile*.


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Donna
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 1:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver stopped working on iPhone SE with iOS 11

Hi Chris

I have 2 suggestions..Ask Siri to turn on voiceover. My 2nd suggestion is..Plug 
in a pair of earphones & see if sound &/voiceover can be heard when using 
earphones.

Donna

Hello folks,
I upgraded iPhone SE to iOS 11 last night.  Everything went smoothly.  
Voiceover was working fine. I have a pass code on my iPhone.  This morning 
voiceover stopped talking.  Now I am stuck.
I can’t do system restore because I have no voiceover input at all.  Because I 
have a pass code I can’t get my iPhone to trust the computer to try doing 
restore using iTunes.
I tried the home key triple clicks several times to turn voiceover on and off.  
It does respond, but voiceover still won’t talk.  I know that this triple click 
of the home key works fine because the screen clicks sound gets turned on and 
off with this command.  I also know that the speakers work because I made a 
friend of mine call me via facetime and I was able to talk to her.
Is there a magic trick to try before I seek sighted help to do a system restore?
Cheers,
Cris  night


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Re: VoiceOver stopped working on iPhone SE with iOS 11

2017-09-20 Thread Donna 
Hi Chris

I have 2 suggestions..Ask Siri to turn on voiceover. My 2nd suggestion is..Plug 
in a pair of earphones & see if sound &/voiceover can be heard when using 
earphones. 

Donna
> 
> Hello folks,
> I upgraded iPhone SE to iOS 11 last night.  Everything went smoothly.  
> Voiceover was working fine. I have a pass code on my iPhone.  This morning 
> voiceover stopped talking.  Now I am stuck.
> I can’t do system restore because I have no voiceover input at all..  Because 
> I have a pass code I can’t get my iPhone to trust the computer to try doing 
> restore using iTunes.
> I tried the home key triple clicks several times to turn voiceover on and 
> off.  It does respond, but voiceover still won’t talk.  I know that this 
> triple click of the home key works fine because the screen clicks sound gets 
> turned on and off with this command.  I also know that the speakers work 
> because I made a friend of mine call me via facetime and I was able to talk 
> to her.
> Is there a magic trick to try before I seek sighted help to do a system 
> restore?
> Cheers,
> Cris  night
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Re: VoiceOver stopped working on iPhone SE with iOS 11

2017-09-20 Thread Mary Otten 
I saw thread about someone losing VoiceOver speech after an upgrade. It turns 
out that their volume have been reduced to two or 3%, at which point VoiceOver 
wasn't talking. So maybe you can check all of your volumes somehow? At least 
try the volume up button a bunch of times to see if that helps? Maybe you did 
that already.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 20, 2017, at 10:40 AM, Cris Ali  wrote:
> 
> Hello folks,
> I upgraded iPhone SE to iOS 11 last night.  Everything went smoothly.  
> Voiceover was working fine. I have a pass code on my iPhone.  This morning 
> voiceover stopped talking.  Now I am stuck.
> I can’t do system restore because I have no voiceover input at all.  Because 
> I have a pass code I can’t get my iPhone to trust the computer to try doing 
> restore using iTunes.
> I tried the home key triple clicks several times to turn voiceover on and 
> off.  It does respond, but voiceover still won’t talk.  I know that this 
> triple click of the home key works fine because the screen clicks sound gets 
> turned on and off with this command.  I also know that the speakers work 
> because I made a friend of mine call me via facetime and I was able to talk 
> to her.
> Is there a magic trick to try before I seek sighted help to do a system 
> restore?
> Cheers,
> Cris  night
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VoiceOver stopped working on iPhone SE with iOS 11

2017-09-20 Thread Cris Ali 
Hello folks,
I upgraded iPhone SE to iOS 11 last night.  Everything went smoothly.  
Voiceover was working fine. I have a pass code on my iPhone.  This morning 
voiceover stopped talking.  Now I am stuck.
I can't do system restore because I have no voiceover input at all.  Because I 
have a pass code I can't get my iPhone to trust the computer to try doing 
restore using iTunes.
I tried the home key triple clicks several times to turn voiceover on and off.  
It does respond, but voiceover still won't talk.  I know that this triple click 
of the home key works fine because the screen clicks sound gets turned on and 
off with this command.  I also know that the speakers work because I made a 
friend of mine call me via facetime and I was able to talk to her.
Is there a magic trick to try before I seek sighted help to do a system restore?
Cheers,
Cris  night

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