Re: converting Kindle books, was RE: Best app to read Bookshare books
I agree. As I said, I personally think I'm covered under the fare use act, and even though I've seen lawyers from record companies say they don't think the fair use act covers DRM protected materials, I doubt a recording company would go after someone who was just making copies for their own personal use. On 20/02/16 14:34, Richard Turner wrote: Amen to that. You should not take legal opinions from someone who is not a lawyer and possibly not even then. But, I don't think they would bother an individual unless they were discovered passing them along to someone illegally, which is why I say not to share the converted books since then you open yourself up for a clear violation and possible prosecution. Again, Just My Opinion and it is worth every penny you paid for it, grin. Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2016 11:03 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: converting Kindle books, was RE: Best app to read Bookshare books Note that copying protected information, even for personal use, isn't necessarily perfectly fine. There are still licenses that you agreed to when you signed up for a service that provided the material, and not every legal expert agrees that the fair use law in the US covers digital material when it comes to making copies of digitally protected material, even for your own personal use. Note that I think the fair use laws do cover this, and I have no problem copying materials for my own personal use. I just want to make the point that this issue has not clearly been settled in US courts, so when someone says it's perfectly fine, remember there still some grey area here, and if it concerns you, you may want to do your own research into this issue. On 20/02/16 12:15, Richard Turner wrote: Alan, I don't think I ever wrote you to thank you for sending this updated info on Codex. It works tremendously well now and very easy compared to the version a few years back. At least, for Windows users, which I am. Anyone who wants to use Voice Dream Reader's better voices for their Kindle books would be well advised to get this software. It is free, though he will accept donations via PayPal to help him with his work. Noting that for personal use, this is completely fine, but please do not share converted books with people who have not purchased the book as that would be a copyright infringement. Besides, authors make so little off Kindle books, it is the right thing to do to support them, in my humble opinion. Here is an article about what an author makes from the various formats by one of my favorite authors, Brian McClellan, check it out: http://www.brianmcclellan.com/blog/how-much-an-author-makes-off-their-books Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 5:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Best app to read Bookshare books Kindle books are DRM protected so Voice Dream Reader can't read them in their native format. You would need to convert them to an ePub or other format Voice Dream can read using a tool such as Codex found here: http://jscholes.net/project/codex/ Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Schulz Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 5:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Best app to read Bookshare books Hi, Can voice dream read kindle format? Bryan -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Merritt Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 4:36 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Best app to read Bookshare books There are probably others, but the two that come to mind are Read2Go (note how it is written) for $20 and Voice Dream Reader for $10. Voice Dream offers many more features, such as reading/reviewing other document types, and the Read2Go app is strictly BookShare books. I don't know about Voice Dream for getting BookShare content but I've heard that it is easy. As for Read2Go, it is easy to search and download books from BookShare. Note that in the Read2Go app, books are read using a TTS voice. Both apps work with Braille displays. Wayne On 1/14/16, Pinky <pink...@abe.midco.net> wrote: Hi Group, I just join Bookshare and would like to know what is a very easy to use app to read books on bookshare. I have a couple of request of the app. 1.Easy to use 2. would like a sleep timer. 3. Easy to get the book in the app? Any other suggestion would be appreciated. Ed -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or mode
RE: converting Kindle books, was RE: Best app to read Bookshare books
Amen to that. You should not take legal opinions from someone who is not a lawyer and possibly not even then. But, I don't think they would bother an individual unless they were discovered passing them along to someone illegally, which is why I say not to share the converted books since then you open yourself up for a clear violation and possible prosecution. Again, Just My Opinion and it is worth every penny you paid for it, grin. Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2016 11:03 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: converting Kindle books, was RE: Best app to read Bookshare books Note that copying protected information, even for personal use, isn't necessarily perfectly fine. There are still licenses that you agreed to when you signed up for a service that provided the material, and not every legal expert agrees that the fair use law in the US covers digital material when it comes to making copies of digitally protected material, even for your own personal use. Note that I think the fair use laws do cover this, and I have no problem copying materials for my own personal use. I just want to make the point that this issue has not clearly been settled in US courts, so when someone says it's perfectly fine, remember there still some grey area here, and if it concerns you, you may want to do your own research into this issue. On 20/02/16 12:15, Richard Turner wrote: > Alan, > I don't think I ever wrote you to thank you for sending this updated info on > Codex. It works tremendously well now and very easy compared to the version > a few years back. > > At least, for Windows users, which I am. > > Anyone who wants to use Voice Dream Reader's better voices for their Kindle > books would be well advised to get this software. It is free, though he will > accept donations via PayPal to help him with his work. > > Noting that for personal use, this is completely fine, but please do not > share converted books with people who have not purchased the book as that > would be a copyright infringement. Besides, authors make so little off > Kindle books, it is the right thing to do to support them, in my humble > opinion. > Here is an article about what an author makes from the various formats by one > of my favorite authors, Brian McClellan, check it out: > http://www.brianmcclellan.com/blog/how-much-an-author-makes-off-their-books > > > Richard > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Alan Lemly > Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 5:25 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Best app to read Bookshare books > > Kindle books are DRM protected so Voice Dream Reader can't read them in > their native format. You would need to convert them to an ePub or other > format Voice Dream can read using a tool such as Codex found here: > > http://jscholes.net/project/codex/ > > Alan Lemly > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Bryan Schulz > Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 5:10 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Best app to read Bookshare books > > Hi, > > Can voice dream read kindle format? > Bryan > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Wayne Merritt > Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 4:36 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Best app to read Bookshare books > > There are probably others, but the two that come to mind are Read2Go > (note how it is written) for $20 and Voice Dream Reader for $10. Voice > Dream offers many more features, such as reading/reviewing other > document types, and the Read2Go app is strictly BookShare books. I > don't know about Voice Dream for getting BookShare content but I've > heard that it is easy. As for Read2Go, it is easy to search and > download books from BookShare. Note that in the Read2Go app, books are > read using a TTS voice. Both apps work with Braille displays. > > Wayne > > On 1/14/16, Pinky <pink...@abe.midco.net> wrote: >> Hi Group, >> >> I just join Bookshare and would like to know what is a very easy to use > app >> to read books on bookshare. I have a couple of request of the app. >> >> 1.Easy to use >> >> 2. would like a sleep timer. >> >> 3. Easy to get the book in the app? >> >> >> >> Any other suggestion would be appreciated. >> >> >> >> Ed >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V
Re: converting Kindle books, was RE: Best app to read Bookshare books
Note that copying protected information, even for personal use, isn't necessarily perfectly fine. There are still licenses that you agreed to when you signed up for a service that provided the material, and not every legal expert agrees that the fair use law in the US covers digital material when it comes to making copies of digitally protected material, even for your own personal use. Note that I think the fair use laws do cover this, and I have no problem copying materials for my own personal use. I just want to make the point that this issue has not clearly been settled in US courts, so when someone says it's perfectly fine, remember there still some grey area here, and if it concerns you, you may want to do your own research into this issue. On 20/02/16 12:15, Richard Turner wrote: Alan, I don't think I ever wrote you to thank you for sending this updated info on Codex. It works tremendously well now and very easy compared to the version a few years back. At least, for Windows users, which I am. Anyone who wants to use Voice Dream Reader's better voices for their Kindle books would be well advised to get this software. It is free, though he will accept donations via PayPal to help him with his work. Noting that for personal use, this is completely fine, but please do not share converted books with people who have not purchased the book as that would be a copyright infringement. Besides, authors make so little off Kindle books, it is the right thing to do to support them, in my humble opinion. Here is an article about what an author makes from the various formats by one of my favorite authors, Brian McClellan, check it out: http://www.brianmcclellan.com/blog/how-much-an-author-makes-off-their-books Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 5:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Best app to read Bookshare books Kindle books are DRM protected so Voice Dream Reader can't read them in their native format. You would need to convert them to an ePub or other format Voice Dream can read using a tool such as Codex found here: http://jscholes.net/project/codex/ Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Schulz Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 5:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Best app to read Bookshare books Hi, Can voice dream read kindle format? Bryan -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Merritt Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 4:36 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Best app to read Bookshare books There are probably others, but the two that come to mind are Read2Go (note how it is written) for $20 and Voice Dream Reader for $10. Voice Dream offers many more features, such as reading/reviewing other document types, and the Read2Go app is strictly BookShare books. I don't know about Voice Dream for getting BookShare content but I've heard that it is easy. As for Read2Go, it is easy to search and download books from BookShare. Note that in the Read2Go app, books are read using a TTS voice. Both apps work with Braille displays. Wayne On 1/14/16, Pinkywrote: Hi Group, I just join Bookshare and would like to know what is a very easy to use app to read books on bookshare. I have a couple of request of the app. 1.Easy to use 2. would like a sleep timer. 3. Easy to get the book in the app? Any other suggestion would be appreciated. Ed -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner
converting Kindle books, was RE: Best app to read Bookshare books
Alan, I don't think I ever wrote you to thank you for sending this updated info on Codex. It works tremendously well now and very easy compared to the version a few years back. At least, for Windows users, which I am. Anyone who wants to use Voice Dream Reader's better voices for their Kindle books would be well advised to get this software. It is free, though he will accept donations via PayPal to help him with his work. Noting that for personal use, this is completely fine, but please do not share converted books with people who have not purchased the book as that would be a copyright infringement. Besides, authors make so little off Kindle books, it is the right thing to do to support them, in my humble opinion. Here is an article about what an author makes from the various formats by one of my favorite authors, Brian McClellan, check it out: http://www.brianmcclellan.com/blog/how-much-an-author-makes-off-their-books Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 5:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Best app to read Bookshare books Kindle books are DRM protected so Voice Dream Reader can't read them in their native format. You would need to convert them to an ePub or other format Voice Dream can read using a tool such as Codex found here: http://jscholes.net/project/codex/ Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Schulz Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 5:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Best app to read Bookshare books Hi, Can voice dream read kindle format? Bryan -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Merritt Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 4:36 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Best app to read Bookshare books There are probably others, but the two that come to mind are Read2Go (note how it is written) for $20 and Voice Dream Reader for $10. Voice Dream offers many more features, such as reading/reviewing other document types, and the Read2Go app is strictly BookShare books. I don't know about Voice Dream for getting BookShare content but I've heard that it is easy. As for Read2Go, it is easy to search and download books from BookShare. Note that in the Read2Go app, books are read using a TTS voice. Both apps work with Braille displays. Wayne On 1/14/16, Pinkywrote: > Hi Group, > > I just join Bookshare and would like to know what is a very easy to use app > to read books on bookshare. I have a couple of request of the app. > > 1.Easy to use > > 2. would like a sleep timer. > > 3. Easy to get the book in the app? > > > > Any other suggestion would be appreciated. > > > > Ed > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - > you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Follow me on Twitter at: www.twitter.com/wcmerritt My website: www.wayneism.com My book list: www.wayneism.com/books.php -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any