Re: do not update messenger above V100!!! even not 102.0
I am running the latest version of facebook messenger and am experiencing no problems at all. I'm using an iPhone SE with iOS 10.2.1. Earle Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 25, 2017, at 1:45 PM, Davy Cuppens <davycupp...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Brian > > Do not update messenger 102.0 because the bug is not resolved at all. Please > send complaints to facebook because messenger hhas become their propriety. > > Regards > Davy > > From: Brian Fischler > Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2017 3:03 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: do not update messenger above V100!!! > > I am running the latest version of iOs on a iPhone 7 and like Davey the past > two updates of Messenger lost a lot of the buttons being labeled. I contacted > FBAccess on Twitter and got their typical fill out this form. >> On Jan 20, 2017, at 3:37 PM, Kevin Wassmer <kevinwass...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >> Hello folks. I don't post much on this list. But I aggree with Stacy. >> This app is not as accessable as the other versons of Messenger. It >> works ok. But not that great. For example, I was trying to messege a >> friend who I haven't writen to in a while. I kept flicking to the >> right on the screen. It kept getting me gack to the begining of the >> people I messaged. In fact, I belive once I flicked on to the last >> person who I messaged. The app braught me back to the top. what I had >> to do is go to the tabs at the bottem. Then I had to flick to the left >> and I was able to find others I have messaged in recent times. it does >> work with Voice-over. But not like it has in the past. >> >>> On 1/20/17, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: >>> I wonder if it has to do with the language although I know Ioana is also >>> using English. I use an iPhone 6S Plus with the latest public release of iOS >>> 10 which is 10.2. Maybe a few others who use Facebook Messengers can say if >>> they are having problems since for me I would say it is 100% >>> accessible and >>> easy to use. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Sieghard >>> >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >>> Of Davy Cuppens >>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 10:54 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: do not update messenger above V100!!! >>> >>> Hi Ioana >>> >>> Thanx to inform me that I am not alone. >>> I had made an mp3 record for a very clever visually impaired iphone user and >>> she told me the app did not have a problem at all and even she had to admit >>> my message buttons were nolonger labeled. >>> Which iphone do you use? >>> >>> Regards >>> Davy >>> From: Ioana Gandrabur<mailto:igandra...@gmail.com> >>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 7:01 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>> Subject: Re: do not update messenger above V100!!! >>> >>> I have had a similar problem for a few versions now but it appears that it's >>> not present for all voiceover users. >>> Thanks to Help I received on the list I learned how to find the send button >>> and that suits my needs for now. I did send them a report also bought we >>> will see what happens. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Ioana >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jan 20, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Jenifer Barr >>> <claudas...@gmail.com<mailto:claudas...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> Hi. >>> I have the update before the latest "one and have had no problem either. I >>> mentioned this because Davy's email said that this update... (not the >>> latest >>> one) also had accessibility problems. >>> Davy, what IOS version are you using? Maybe that has something to do with >>> what you are experiencing? >>> Jen >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jan 20, 2017, at 12:29 PM, Sieghard Weitzel >>> <siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: >>> Hi Davy, >>> >>> I updated to whatever the latest update was yesterday and have no issues. >>> Can you be more specific wit some examples where you have problems or where >>> things are not labelled? >>> I noticed that the third of out the 5 tabs at the bottom is not labelled, >>> for me it says from left to right: >>> Home, Calls, Tab 3 of 5, Groups, People >>> When I double tap
Re: do not update messenger above V100!!! even not 102.0
Brian Do not update messenger 102.0 because the bug is not resolved at all. Please send complaints to facebook because messenger hhas become their propriety. Regards Davy From: Brian Fischler Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2017 3:03 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: do not update messenger above V100!!! I am running the latest version of iOs on a iPhone 7 and like Davey the past two updates of Messenger lost a lot of the buttons being labeled. I contacted FBAccess on Twitter and got their typical fill out this form. On Jan 20, 2017, at 3:37 PM, Kevin Wassmer <kevinwass...@gmail.com> wrote: Hello folks. I don't post much on this list. But I aggree with Stacy. This app is not as accessable as the other versons of Messenger. It works ok. But not that great. For example, I was trying to messege a friend who I haven't writen to in a while. I kept flicking to the right on the screen. It kept getting me gack to the begining of the people I messaged. In fact, I belive once I flicked on to the last person who I messaged. The app braught me back to the top. what I had to do is go to the tabs at the bottem. Then I had to flick to the left and I was able to find others I have messaged in recent times. it does work with Voice-over. But not like it has in the past. On 1/20/17, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: I wonder if it has to do with the language although I know Ioana is also using English. I use an iPhone 6S Plus with the latest public release of iOS 10 which is 10.2. Maybe a few others who use Facebook Messengers can say if they are having problems since for me I would say it is 100% accessible and easy to use. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Davy Cuppens Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 10:54 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: do not update messenger above V100!!! Hi Ioana Thanx to inform me that I am not alone. I had made an mp3 record for a very clever visually impaired iphone user and she told me the app did not have a problem at all and even she had to admit my message buttons were nolonger labeled. Which iphone do you use? Regards Davy From: Ioana Gandrabur<mailto:igandra...@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 7:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: do not update messenger above V100!!! I have had a similar problem for a few versions now but it appears that it's not present for all voiceover users. Thanks to Help I received on the list I learned how to find the send button and that suits my needs for now. I did send them a report also bought we will see what happens. Best, Ioana Sent from my iPhone On Jan 20, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Jenifer Barr <claudas...@gmail.com<mailto:claudas...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi. I have the update before the latest "one and have had no problem either. I mentioned this because Davy's email said that this update... (not the latest one) also had accessibility problems. Davy, what IOS version are you using? Maybe that has something to do with what you are experiencing? Jen Sent from my iPhone On Jan 20, 2017, at 12:29 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: Hi Davy, I updated to whatever the latest update was yesterday and have no issues. Can you be more specific wit some examples where you have problems or where things are not labelled? I noticed that the third of out the 5 tabs at the bottom is not labelled, for me it says from left to right: Home, Calls, Tab 3 of 5, Groups, People When I double tap on where Voiceover says “Tab 3 of 5” Voiceover says “Tap to take photo or video” and I get a screen with a Close button at the top left, then a button to turn the flash on, a button to “Flip Camera” which is followed by Voiceover saying “Backfacing Camera” and then I have buttons labelled “Stickers”, “Draw”, “Text” and a “Previous” and “Next” button. If I go to the “Home” tab I see all my conversations, I have a “Settings” button at the top left, a search field in the middle and a “New Conversation” button at the top right. My conversations are announced as to whether they are “Unread” if they are new and Voiceover says “Actions available” which tells me there are rotor options which are Activate (default), Mute, Delete and More. More gives me a pop-up menu with Block, Mark as Spam, Archive, Mark as Unread (or mark as read if it’s unread) and Cancel. If I double tap to open a conversation I get a “Home, back” button at the top left, the name of the person in the middle followed by when they were last active and at the top right are “Audio Call” and “
RE: do not update messenger above V100!!!
Hi Jim, Well, when I open Messenger I am also on the Home tab and I’m not sure why you don’t have Settings there. I also have “New Message” which is at the top right, if I flick left from that I am on “Search” and if I flick left one more time I’m on “Settings”. For me it’s right underneath where the cellular signal strength and the carrier are displayed in the status bar at the very top. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Ruby Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2017 2:30 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: do not update messenger above V100!!! When I first open messenger I am at the home tab and I see no settings button at the top left. I have search at the top right and new message at the top right. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2017 2:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: do not update messenger above V100!!! Hi Jim, The Settings button is there when I first open Messenger and I’m in the Inbox so to speak where all my messages are displayed. Once I double tap on a message to open that thread the top left says “Home back button”. Below is a fairly detailed description of what is in Settings for those who have never explored it and who benefit from reading a description/tutorial: If I double tap on the Settings button I now have a Done button at the top left, then in the middle and over to the right it says “Me” which is a heading. Underneath that is an unlabelled button. If I double tap it I get to a screen where I have the following: Cancel button at the top left To the right of that and in the middle but also at the top at the same level as the cancel button are two buttons labelled “My code button, 1 of 2” and “Scan Code button, 2 of 2”. To the right of that is a “Share” button and most of the screen is taken up by another item Voiceover just announces as “button” and which seems to be a barcode somebody else can scan with their phone, I assume it will quickly and easily add your information to their Messenger list, sort of like a QR code. If you double tap on that unlabelled button a menu pops up with the following: Reset Code Share Image Save Image Cancel I selected Save Image which put it in my camera roll, here it was announced as “One Face”. I then used iDentifi to recognize it and it came back and announced it as “Messenger Avatar”. When I changed it from “My Code” to “Scan Code” I got a message on the screen to hold the camera up to a code, there was also an unlabelled button which when I tapped it brought up my camera roll. I selected the image I had previously saved and it told me this: Sieghard Weitzel Sieghard Weitzel from your phone contacts is also on Messenger Sieghard is in your Messenger contacts Then it had a “Type a message” text field and I guess I could have sent a message to myself, but of course this is meant to scan somebody else’s code to add them to your Messenger contacts. A couple of unlabelled buttons here, but nothing that’s a deal-breaker. Back on the main ‘Settings screen underneath that initial unlabelled button which takes you to all of this are the following other items which are all labelled properly: Sieghard Weitzel – this is just underneath the unlabelled button (you get to it if you swipe right and that is what I am doing to get to all of these options now) User name button: double tap on this and it will tell you the user name you have on Facebook, in my case it is SieghardW. I can now tap on “Edit User Name”, then I can find an explanatory message: Your user name becomes part of your custom links that let people visit your Facebook profile and reach you on Messenger. Need help, get tips on choosing a user name.” When I tried to edit it to just say “Sieghard” without the first initial of my last name it told me that this was an unavailable user name. Basically this has to be a unique identifier where you could type in www.Facebook.com/SieghardW<http://www.Facebook.com/SieghardW> ad it would take you straight to my page. I guess even my relatively unusual name is not so unusual on Facebook and somebody else already had just the first name. Next on the Settings screen is “Phone” followed by your number. If you double tap on this it asks “Is this the number people can use to reach you? People can add you as a contact if they already have your phone number, but only you can see this number on Facebook. Your phone number helps you connect with friends, get SMS updates and more”. You then have an edit field with your number or you can add/change it and at the bottom is an “OK” and “Not Now” button. Next on the main settings screen is a “Notification” button which for me is “On” and when I double tap on it I get various options to adjust notifications. Next is
Re: do not update messenger above V100!!!
button called “Photos, videos and emoji”. It gives you various > options related to photos and videos and it has a button to turn on > “Messenger Emoji” which has the explanation underneath: Switch system emoji > with messenger emoji. I guess if you turn this off you can just use the > regular iOS emojis instead of the emojis Facebook offers. > The last options on the main settings screen are Apple Watch, Secret > Conversations, Switch Account, Report a Problem, Help and Privacy and Terms. > The Apple Watch button gives you I think 6 preset reply options which you can > customize and change here and I don’t know what Secret Conversations are, > haven’t seen anything where I can indicate I want a conversation to be secret. > > > Regards, > Sieghard > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Jim Ruby > Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2017 11:41 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: do not update messenger above V100!!! > > Hi, all my tabs are reading fine, but I do not see any settings button at the > top left. I’m using iphone 5s nad latest ios 10 public beta. > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 11:30 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: do not update messenger above V100!!! > > Hi Davy, > > I updated to whatever the latest update was yesterday and have no issues. Can > you be more specific wit some examples where you have problems or where > things are not labelled? > I noticed that the third of out the 5 tabs at the bottom is not labelled, for > me it says from left to right: > Home, Calls, Tab 3 of 5, Groups, People > When I double tap on where Voiceover says “Tab 3 of 5” Voiceover says “Tap to > take photo or video” and I get a screen with a Close button at the top left, > then a button to turn the flash on, a button to “Flip Camera” which is > followed by Voiceover saying “Backfacing Camera” and then I have buttons > labelled “Stickers”, “Draw”, “Text” and a “Previous” and “Next” button. > If I go to the “Home” tab I see all my conversations, I have a “Settings” > button at the top left, a search field in the middle and a “New Conversation” > button at the top right. > My conversations are announced as to whether they are “Unread” if they are > new and Voiceover says “Actions available” which tells me there are rotor > options which are Activate (default), Mute, Delete and More. > More gives me a pop-up menu with Block, Mark as Spam, Archive, Mark as Unread > (or mark as read if it’s unread) and Cancel. > If I double tap to open a conversation I get a “Home, back” button at the top > left, the name of the person in the middle followed by when they were last > active and at the top right are “Audio Call” and “Video Call”. > I am just looking at a message where somebody just sent me a single message, > it is read out perfectly with time and all and if I swipe right Voiceover > says “Type in message… text field is editing”. > Underneath this is a row of items I can find by touching/dragging my finger > or I can swipe right and all are announced: > Emoji, Camera, Photos, Stickers, Gifs, Voice, Games, More and Like. > As soon as I start typing something th “Like” button at the far right changes > to a “Send” button. > The only oddity is that the far left item, Emoji, says “Selected” even though > the regular keyboard is up. If I double tap on it the Emoji keyboard shows > and the icon now says “Text, selected” and I can double tap on that to go > back to the regular keyboard or there is also a “Toggle Text input” button at > the very bottom left of the Emoji keyboard. If I use this to change back to > the regular keyboard the top left item now says “Text” and if I double tap it > it goes back to “Emoji, selected” but the keyboard stays on text until I tap > this again. Like I said, this is just a bit inconsistent, but everything else > for me seems to be perfectly accessible. > If I want to send a voice recording instead of a text message I can tap on > “Voice” and the entire button part of the screen above the home button but > all the way across becomes a big “Record” button. You have to double tap and > hold this just as in Whats App messenger and after you let go anything you > record is automatically sent. > Tap on “Text” at the far left of that row of icons to get out of voice > recording mode and bring the on-screen keyboard back. > > Regards, > Sieghard > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Davy Cuppens > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 6:55 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: do not
RE: do not update messenger above V100!!!
When I first open messenger I am at the home tab and I see no settings button at the top left. I have search at the top right and new message at the top right. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2017 2:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: do not update messenger above V100!!! Hi Jim, The Settings button is there when I first open Messenger and I’m in the Inbox so to speak where all my messages are displayed. Once I double tap on a message to open that thread the top left says “Home back button”. Below is a fairly detailed description of what is in Settings for those who have never explored it and who benefit from reading a description/tutorial: If I double tap on the Settings button I now have a Done button at the top left, then in the middle and over to the right it says “Me” which is a heading. Underneath that is an unlabelled button. If I double tap it I get to a screen where I have the following: Cancel button at the top left To the right of that and in the middle but also at the top at the same level as the cancel button are two buttons labelled “My code button, 1 of 2” and “Scan Code button, 2 of 2”. To the right of that is a “Share” button and most of the screen is taken up by another item Voiceover just announces as “button” and which seems to be a barcode somebody else can scan with their phone, I assume it will quickly and easily add your information to their Messenger list, sort of like a QR code. If you double tap on that unlabelled button a menu pops up with the following: Reset Code Share Image Save Image Cancel I selected Save Image which put it in my camera roll, here it was announced as “One Face”. I then used iDentifi to recognize it and it came back and announced it as “Messenger Avatar”. When I changed it from “My Code” to “Scan Code” I got a message on the screen to hold the camera up to a code, there was also an unlabelled button which when I tapped it brought up my camera roll. I selected the image I had previously saved and it told me this: Sieghard Weitzel Sieghard Weitzel from your phone contacts is also on Messenger Sieghard is in your Messenger contacts Then it had a “Type a message” text field and I guess I could have sent a message to myself, but of course this is meant to scan somebody else’s code to add them to your Messenger contacts. A couple of unlabelled buttons here, but nothing that’s a deal-breaker. Back on the main ‘Settings screen underneath that initial unlabelled button which takes you to all of this are the following other items which are all labelled properly: Sieghard Weitzel – this is just underneath the unlabelled button (you get to it if you swipe right and that is what I am doing to get to all of these options now) User name button: double tap on this and it will tell you the user name you have on Facebook, in my case it is SieghardW. I can now tap on “Edit User Name”, then I can find an explanatory message: Your user name becomes part of your custom links that let people visit your Facebook profile and reach you on Messenger. Need help, get tips on choosing a user name.” When I tried to edit it to just say “Sieghard” without the first initial of my last name it told me that this was an unavailable user name. Basically this has to be a unique identifier where you could type in <http://www.Facebook.com/SieghardW> www.Facebook.com/SieghardW ad it would take you straight to my page. I guess even my relatively unusual name is not so unusual on Facebook and somebody else already had just the first name. Next on the Settings screen is “Phone” followed by your number. If you double tap on this it asks “Is this the number people can use to reach you? People can add you as a contact if they already have your phone number, but only you can see this number on Facebook. Your phone number helps you connect with friends, get SMS updates and more”. You then have an edit field with your number or you can add/change it and at the bottom is an “OK” and “Not Now” button. Next on the main settings screen is a “Notification” button which for me is “On” and when I double tap on it I get various options to adjust notifications. Next is a “People” button which has an option to turn on or off “Sync Contacts”, you also have an invite and a block button. Next is a button called “Photos, videos and emoji”. It gives you various options related to photos and videos and it has a button to turn on “Messenger Emoji” which has the explanation underneath: Switch system emoji with messenger emoji. I guess if you turn this off you can just use the regular iOS emojis instead of the emojis Facebook offers. The last options on the main settings screen are Apple Watch, Secret Conversations, Switch Account, Report a Problem, Help and Privacy and Terms. The Apple Watch button gives you I think 6
RE: do not update messenger above V100!!!
F'm having no problems with my Messenger apps. - Original Message - From: "Jim Ruby" <j...@blindsea.com To: <viphone@googlegroups.com Date sent: Sat, 21 Jan 2017 13:40:46 -0600 Subject: RE: do not update messenger above V100!!! Hi, all my tabs are reading fine, but I do not see any settings button at the top left. I'm using iphone 5s nad latest ios 10 public beta. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 11:30 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: do not update messenger above V100!!! Hi Davy, I updated to whatever the latest update was yesterday and have no issues. Can you be more specific wit some examples where you have problems or where things are not labelled? I noticed that the third of out the 5 tabs at the bottom is not labelled, for me it says from left to right: Home, Calls, Tab 3 of 5, Groups, People When I double tap on where Voiceover says "Tab 3 of 5" Voiceover says "Tap to take photo or video" and I get a screen with a Close button at the top left, then a button to turn the flash on, a button to "Flip Camera" which is followed by Voiceover saying "Backfacing Camera" and then I have buttons labelled "Stickers", "Draw", "Text" and a "Previous" and "Next" button. If I go to the "Home" tab I see all my conversations, I have a "Settings" button at the top left, a search field in the middle and a "New Conversation" button at the top right. My conversations are announced as to whether they are "Unread" if they are new and Voiceover says "Actions available" which tells me there are rotor options which are Activate (default), Mute, Delete and More. More gives me a pop-up menu with Block, Mark as Spam, Archive, Mark as Unread (or mark as read if it's unread) and Cancel. If I double tap to open a conversation I get a "Home, back" button at the top left, the name of the person in the middle followed by when they were last active and at the top right are "Audio Call" and "Video Call". I am just looking at a message where somebody just sent me a single message, it is read out perfectly with time and all and if I swipe right Voiceover says "Type in message. text field is editing". Underneath this is a row of items I can find by touching/dragging my finger or I can swipe right and all are announced: Emoji, Camera, Photos, Stickers, Gifs, Voice, Games, More and Like. As soon as I start typing something th "Like" button at the far right changes to a "Send" button. The only oddity is that the far left item, Emoji, says "Selected" even though the regular keyboard is up. If I double tap on it the Emoji keyboard shows and the icon now says "Text, selected" and I can double tap on that to go back to the regular keyboard or there is also a "Toggle Text input" button at the very bottom left of the Emoji keyboard. If I use this to change back to the regular keyboard the top left item now says "Text" and if I double tap it it goes back to "Emoji, selected" but the keyboard stays on text until I tap this again. Like I said, this is just a bit inconsistent, but everything else for me seems to be perfectly accessible. If I want to send a voice recording instead of a text message I can tap on "Voice" and the entire button part of the screen above the home button but all the way across becomes a big "Record" button. You have to double tap and hold this just as in Whats App messenger and after you let go anything you record is automatically sent. Tap on "Text" at the far left of that row of icons to get out of voice recording mode and bring the on-screen keyboard back. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Davy Cuppens Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 6:55 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: do not update messenger above V100!!! Hi folks Since messenger 100.1 the app has become dramatically less accessible. This is the report I sent to facebook this afternoon. So don't update the app! The latest update of Messenger 101.0 is very unaccessible, most buttons and tabs are nolonger labeled. this has been the case for update 100.1 as well, despite numerous messages sent by the blind community Facebook refused to restore accessibility. Now this issue will be sent over by me to numerous newspapers and all forums of the blind community saying that facebook is reluctant to solve these accessibility issues since update 100.1. If facebook is nolonger willing to take accessibility into consideration for Messenger usage, please make the latest update before v
RE: do not update messenger above V100!!!
Hi Jim, The Settings button is there when I first open Messenger and I’m in the Inbox so to speak where all my messages are displayed. Once I double tap on a message to open that thread the top left says “Home back button”. Below is a fairly detailed description of what is in Settings for those who have never explored it and who benefit from reading a description/tutorial: If I double tap on the Settings button I now have a Done button at the top left, then in the middle and over to the right it says “Me” which is a heading. Underneath that is an unlabelled button. If I double tap it I get to a screen where I have the following: Cancel button at the top left To the right of that and in the middle but also at the top at the same level as the cancel button are two buttons labelled “My code button, 1 of 2” and “Scan Code button, 2 of 2”. To the right of that is a “Share” button and most of the screen is taken up by another item Voiceover just announces as “button” and which seems to be a barcode somebody else can scan with their phone, I assume it will quickly and easily add your information to their Messenger list, sort of like a QR code. If you double tap on that unlabelled button a menu pops up with the following: Reset Code Share Image Save Image Cancel I selected Save Image which put it in my camera roll, here it was announced as “One Face”. I then used iDentifi to recognize it and it came back and announced it as “Messenger Avatar”. When I changed it from “My Code” to “Scan Code” I got a message on the screen to hold the camera up to a code, there was also an unlabelled button which when I tapped it brought up my camera roll. I selected the image I had previously saved and it told me this: Sieghard Weitzel Sieghard Weitzel from your phone contacts is also on Messenger Sieghard is in your Messenger contacts Then it had a “Type a message” text field and I guess I could have sent a message to myself, but of course this is meant to scan somebody else’s code to add them to your Messenger contacts. A couple of unlabelled buttons here, but nothing that’s a deal-breaker. Back on the main ‘Settings screen underneath that initial unlabelled button which takes you to all of this are the following other items which are all labelled properly: Sieghard Weitzel – this is just underneath the unlabelled button (you get to it if you swipe right and that is what I am doing to get to all of these options now) User name button: double tap on this and it will tell you the user name you have on Facebook, in my case it is SieghardW. I can now tap on “Edit User Name”, then I can find an explanatory message: Your user name becomes part of your custom links that let people visit your Facebook profile and reach you on Messenger. Need help, get tips on choosing a user name.” When I tried to edit it to just say “Sieghard” without the first initial of my last name it told me that this was an unavailable user name. Basically this has to be a unique identifier where you could type in www.Facebook.com/SieghardW<http://www.Facebook.com/SieghardW> ad it would take you straight to my page. I guess even my relatively unusual name is not so unusual on Facebook and somebody else already had just the first name. Next on the Settings screen is “Phone” followed by your number. If you double tap on this it asks “Is this the number people can use to reach you? People can add you as a contact if they already have your phone number, but only you can see this number on Facebook. Your phone number helps you connect with friends, get SMS updates and more”. You then have an edit field with your number or you can add/change it and at the bottom is an “OK” and “Not Now” button. Next on the main settings screen is a “Notification” button which for me is “On” and when I double tap on it I get various options to adjust notifications. Next is a “People” button which has an option to turn on or off “Sync Contacts”, you also have an invite and a block button. Next is a button called “Photos, videos and emoji”. It gives you various options related to photos and videos and it has a button to turn on “Messenger Emoji” which has the explanation underneath: Switch system emoji with messenger emoji. I guess if you turn this off you can just use the regular iOS emojis instead of the emojis Facebook offers. The last options on the main settings screen are Apple Watch, Secret Conversations, Switch Account, Report a Problem, Help and Privacy and Terms. The Apple Watch button gives you I think 6 preset reply options which you can customize and change here and I don’t know what Secret Conversations are, haven’t seen anything where I can indicate I want a conversation to be secret. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Ruby Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2017 11:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: do not update messenger above V100!!! Hi,
RE: do not update messenger above V100!!!
Hi, all my tabs are reading fine, but I do not see any settings button at the top left. I’m using iphone 5s nad latest ios 10 public beta. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 11:30 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: do not update messenger above V100!!! Hi Davy, I updated to whatever the latest update was yesterday and have no issues. Can you be more specific wit some examples where you have problems or where things are not labelled? I noticed that the third of out the 5 tabs at the bottom is not labelled, for me it says from left to right: Home, Calls, Tab 3 of 5, Groups, People When I double tap on where Voiceover says “Tab 3 of 5” Voiceover says “Tap to take photo or video” and I get a screen with a Close button at the top left, then a button to turn the flash on, a button to “Flip Camera” which is followed by Voiceover saying “Backfacing Camera” and then I have buttons labelled “Stickers”, “Draw”, “Text” and a “Previous” and “Next” button. If I go to the “Home” tab I see all my conversations, I have a “Settings” button at the top left, a search field in the middle and a “New Conversation” button at the top right. My conversations are announced as to whether they are “Unread” if they are new and Voiceover says “Actions available” which tells me there are rotor options which are Activate (default), Mute, Delete and More. More gives me a pop-up menu with Block, Mark as Spam, Archive, Mark as Unread (or mark as read if it’s unread) and Cancel. If I double tap to open a conversation I get a “Home, back” button at the top left, the name of the person in the middle followed by when they were last active and at the top right are “Audio Call” and “Video Call”. I am just looking at a message where somebody just sent me a single message, it is read out perfectly with time and all and if I swipe right Voiceover says “Type in message… text field is editing”. Underneath this is a row of items I can find by touching/dragging my finger or I can swipe right and all are announced: Emoji, Camera, Photos, Stickers, Gifs, Voice, Games, More and Like. As soon as I start typing something th “Like” button at the far right changes to a “Send” button. The only oddity is that the far left item, Emoji, says “Selected” even though the regular keyboard is up. If I double tap on it the Emoji keyboard shows and the icon now says “Text, selected” and I can double tap on that to go back to the regular keyboard or there is also a “Toggle Text input” button at the very bottom left of the Emoji keyboard. If I use this to change back to the regular keyboard the top left item now says “Text” and if I double tap it it goes back to “Emoji, selected” but the keyboard stays on text until I tap this again. Like I said, this is just a bit inconsistent, but everything else for me seems to be perfectly accessible. If I want to send a voice recording instead of a text message I can tap on “Voice” and the entire button part of the screen above the home button but all the way across becomes a big “Record” button. You have to double tap and hold this just as in Whats App messenger and after you let go anything you record is automatically sent. Tap on “Text” at the far left of that row of icons to get out of voice recording mode and bring the on-screen keyboard back. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Davy Cuppens Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 6:55 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: do not update messenger above V100!!! Hi folks Since messenger 100.1 the app has become dramatically less accessible. This is the report I sent to facebook this afternoon. So don’t update the app! The latest update of Messenger 101.0 is very unaccessible, most buttons and tabs are nolonger labeled. this has been the case for update 100.1 as well, despite numerous messages sent by the blind community Facebook refused to restore accessibility. Now this issue will be sent over by me to numerous newspapers and all forums of the blind community saying that facebook is reluctant to solve these accessibility issues since update 100.1. If facebook is nolonger willing to take accessibility into consideration for Messenger usage, please make the latest update before v100.1 back available on the Apple appstore. Regards Davy -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone
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Same here with my IPhone 7 with latest IOS and messenger as everything speaks except for the third tab. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jennie Facer Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 10:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: do not update messenger above V100!!! Hi all, I like Donna don't have any of the problems mentioned here either. I am running an iPhone 7 with 10.2. The one that isn't labeled on the bottom there is a photos tab. It wants allow for the camera. I tapped on it just to find out. That is the only unclear tab and no unclear buttons. Sorry you are having such a hard time. Jenn Jenn and Kumi On Jan 20, 2017, at 7:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca <mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote: Hi Donna, That is exactly what I get as well. I really wonder why some people have a different experience. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 1:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: do not update messenger above V100!!! Hi All I live in the U.S I am using an iPhone 7, running IOS 10.2 & have the latest update to Facebook messenger. The only button that is not labeled is the 3rd button across the bottom when the app is first launched; otherwise everything is labeled & easy to use. Donna I wonder if it has to do with the language although I know Ioana is also using English. I use an iPhone 6S Plus with the latest public release of iOS 10 which is 10.2. Maybe a few others who use Facebook Messengers can say if they are having problems since for me I would say it is 100% accessible and easy to use. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Davy Cuppens Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 10:54 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: do not update messenger above V100!!! Hi Ioana Thanx to inform me that I am not alone. I had made an mp3 record for a very clever visually impaired iphone user and she told me the app did not have a problem at all and even she had to admit my message buttons were nolonger labeled. Which iphone do you use? Regards Davy From: Ioana Gandrabur <mailto:igandra...@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 7:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: do not update messenger above V100!!! I have had a similar problem for a few versions now but it appears that it's not present for all voiceover users. Thanks to Help I received on the list I learned how to find the send button and that suits my needs for now. I did send them a report also bought we will see what happens. Best, Ioana Sent from my iPhone On Jan 20, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Jenifer Barr <claudas...@gmail.com <mailto:claudas...@gmail.com> > wrote: Hi. I have the update before the latest "one and have had no problem either. I mentioned this because Davy's email said that this update... (not the latest one) also had accessibility problems. Davy, what IOS version are you using? Maybe that has something to do with what you are experiencing? Jen Sent from my iPhone On Jan 20, 2017, at 12:29 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca <mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote: Hi Davy, I updated to whatever the latest update was yesterday and have no issues. Can you be more specific wit some examples where you have problems or where things are not labelled? I noticed that the third of out the 5 tabs at the bottom is not labelled, for me it says from left to right: Home, Calls, Tab 3 of 5, Groups, People When I double tap on where Voiceover says “Tab 3 of 5” Voiceover says “Tap to take photo or video” and I get a screen with a Close button at the top left, then a button to turn the flash on, a button to “Flip Camera” which is followed by Voiceover saying “Backfacing Camera” and then I have buttons labelled “Stickers”, “Draw”, “Text” and a “Previous” and “Next” button. If I go to the “Home” tab I see all my conversations, I have a “Settings” button at the top left, a search field in the middle and a “New Conversation” button at the top right. My conversations are announced as to whether they are “Unread” if they are new and Voiceover says “Actions available” which tells me there are rotor options which are Activate (default), Mute, Delete and More. More gives me a pop-up menu with Block, Mark as Spam, Archive, Mark as Unread (or mark as read if it’s unread) and Cancel. If I double tap to open a conversation I get a “Home, back” button at the top left, the name of the person in the middle followed by when they were last active an
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have you tried using the "search" field to find who you want quickly? - Original Message - From: "Kevin Wassmer" <kevinwass...@gmail.com> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 1:37 PM Subject: Re: do not update messenger above V100!!! Hello folks. I don't post much on this list. But I aggree with Stacy. This app is not as accessable as the other versons of Messenger. It works ok. But not that great. For example, I was trying to messege a friend who I haven't writen to in a while. I kept flicking to the right on the screen. It kept getting me gack to the begining of the people I messaged. In fact, I belive once I flicked on to the last person who I messaged. The app braught me back to the top. what I had to do is go to the tabs at the bottem. Then I had to flick to the left and I was able to find others I have messaged in recent times. it does work with Voice-over. But not like it has in the past. On 1/20/17, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: I wonder if it has to do with the language although I know Ioana is also using English. I use an iPhone 6S Plus with the latest public release of iOS 10 which is 10.2. Maybe a few others who use Facebook Messengers can say if they are having problems since for me I would say it is 100% accessible and easy to use. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Davy Cuppens Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 10:54 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: do not update messenger above V100!!! Hi Ioana Thanx to inform me that I am not alone. I had made an mp3 record for a very clever visually impaired iphone user and she told me the app did not have a problem at all and even she had to admit my message buttons were nolonger labeled. Which iphone do you use? Regards Davy From: Ioana Gandrabur<mailto:igandra...@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 7:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: do not update messenger above V100!!! I have had a similar problem for a few versions now but it appears that it's not present for all voiceover users. Thanks to Help I received on the list I learned how to find the send button and that suits my needs for now. I did send them a report also bought we will see what happens. Best, Ioana Sent from my iPhone On Jan 20, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Jenifer Barr <claudas...@gmail.com<mailto:claudas...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi. I have the update before the latest "one and have had no problem either. I mentioned this because Davy's email said that this update... (not the latest one) also had accessibility problems. Davy, what IOS version are you using? Maybe that has something to do with what you are experiencing? Jen Sent from my iPhone On Jan 20, 2017, at 12:29 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: Hi Davy, I updated to whatever the latest update was yesterday and have no issues. Can you be more specific wit some examples where you have problems or where things are not labelled? I noticed that the third of out the 5 tabs at the bottom is not labelled, for me it says from left to right: Home, Calls, Tab 3 of 5, Groups, People When I double tap on where Voiceover says “Tab 3 of 5” Voiceover says “Tap to take photo or video” and I get a screen with a Close button at the top left, then a button to turn the flash on, a button to “Flip Camera” which is followed by Voiceover saying “Backfacing Camera” and then I have buttons labelled “Stickers”, “Draw”, “Text” and a “Previous” and “Next” button. If I go to the “Home” tab I see all my conversations, I have a “Settings” button at the top left, a search field in the middle and a “New Conversation” button at the top right. My conversations are announced as to whether they are “Unread” if they are new and Voiceover says “Actions available” which tells me there are rotor options which are Activate (default), Mute, Delete and More. More gives me a pop-up menu with Block, Mark as Spam, Archive, Mark as Unread (or mark as read if it’s unread) and Cancel. If I double tap to open a conversation I get a “Home, back” button at the top left, the name of the person in the middle followed by when they were last active and at the top right are “Audio Call” and “Video Call”. I am just looking at a message where somebody just sent me a single message, it is read out perfectly with time and all and if I swipe right Voiceover says “Type in message… text field is editing”. Underneath this is a row of items I can find by touching/dragging my finger or I can swipe right and all are announced: Emoji, Camera, Photos, Stickers, Gifs, Voice, Games, More and Like. As soon as I start typing something th “Like” button at the far right changes to a “Send” button. The only oddity is that the far left item, Emoji, says “Selected” even though the regular keyboa
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Hi all, I like Donna don't have any of the problems mentioned here either. I am running an iPhone 7 with 10.2. The one that isn't labeled on the bottom there is a photos tab. It wants allow for the camera. I tapped on it just to find out. That is the only unclear tab and no unclear buttons. Sorry you are having such a hard time. Jenn Jenn and Kumi > On Jan 20, 2017, at 7:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: > > Hi Donna, > > That is exactly what I get as well. I really wonder why some people have a > different experience. > > Regards, > Sieghard > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Donna > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 1:53 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: do not update messenger above V100!!! > > Hi All > > I live in the U.S I am using an iPhone 7, running IOS 10.2 & have the latest > update to Facebook messenger. The only button that is not labeled is the 3rd > button across the bottom when the app is first launched; otherwise everything > is labeled & easy to use. > > Donna > > I wonder if it has to do with the language although I know Ioana is also > using English. I use an iPhone 6S Plus with the latest public release of iOS > 10 which is 10.2. Maybe a few others who use Facebook Messengers can say if > they are having problems since for me I would say it is 100% accessible and > easy to use. > > Regards, > Sieghard > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Davy Cuppens > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 10:54 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: do not update messenger above V100!!! > > Hi Ioana > > Thanx to inform me that I am not alone. > I had made an mp3 record for a very clever visually impaired iphone user and > she told me the app did not have a problem at all and even she had to admit > my message buttons were nolonger labeled. > Which iphone do you use? > > Regards > Davy > From: Ioana Gandrabur > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 7:01 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: do not update messenger above V100!!! > > I have had a similar problem for a few versions now but it appears that it's > not present for all voiceover users. > Thanks to Help I received on the list I learned how to find the send button > and that suits my needs for now. I did send them a report also bought we will > see what happens. > > Best, > > Ioana > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 20, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Jenifer Barr <claudas...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi. > I have the update before the latest "one and have had no problem either. I > mentioned this because Davy's email said that this update... (not the latest > one) also had accessibility problems. > Davy, what IOS version are you using? Maybe that has something to do with > what you are experiencing? > Jen > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 20, 2017, at 12:29 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: > > Hi Davy, > > I updated to whatever the latest update was yesterday and have no issues. Can > you be more specific wit some examples where you have problems or where > things are not labelled? > I noticed that the third of out the 5 tabs at the bottom is not labelled, for > me it says from left to right: > Home, Calls, Tab 3 of 5, Groups, People > When I double tap on where Voiceover says “Tab 3 of 5” Voiceover says “Tap to > take photo or video” and I get a screen with a Close button at the top left, > then a button to turn the flash on, a button to “Flip Camera” which is > followed by Voiceover saying “Backfacing Camera” and then I have buttons > labelled “Stickers”, “Draw”, “Text” and a “Previous” and “Next” button. > If I go to the “Home” tab I see all my conversations, I have a “Settings” > button at the top left, a search field in the middle and a “New Conversation” > button at the top right. > My conversations are announced as to whether they are “Unread” if they are > new and Voiceover says “Actions available” which tells me there are rotor > options which are Activate (default), Mute, Delete and More. > More gives me a pop-up menu with Block, Mark as Spam, Archive, Mark as Unread > (or mark as read if it’s unread) and Cancel. > If I double tap to open a conversation I get a “Home, back” button at the top > left, the name of the person in the middle followed by when they were last > active and at the top right are “Audio Call” and “Video Call”. > I am just looking at a message where somebody just sent me a single message, > it is read out perfectly with time and all and if I swipe right Voic
RE: do not update messenger above V100!!!
Hi Donna, That is exactly what I get as well. I really wonder why some people have a different experience. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 1:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: do not update messenger above V100!!! Hi All I live in the U.S I am using an iPhone 7, running IOS 10.2 & have the latest update to Facebook messenger. The only button that is not labeled is the 3rd button across the bottom when the app is first launched; otherwise everything is labeled & easy to use. Donna I wonder if it has to do with the language although I know Ioana is also using English. I use an iPhone 6S Plus with the latest public release of iOS 10 which is 10.2. Maybe a few others who use Facebook Messengers can say if they are having problems since for me I would say it is 100% accessible and easy to use. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Davy Cuppens Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 10:54 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: do not update messenger above V100!!! Hi Ioana Thanx to inform me that I am not alone. I had made an mp3 record for a very clever visually impaired iphone user and she told me the app did not have a problem at all and even she had to admit my message buttons were nolonger labeled. Which iphone do you use? Regards Davy From: Ioana Gandrabur<mailto:igandra...@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 7:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: do not update messenger above V100!!! I have had a similar problem for a few versions now but it appears that it's not present for all voiceover users. Thanks to Help I received on the list I learned how to find the send button and that suits my needs for now. I did send them a report also bought we will see what happens. Best, Ioana Sent from my iPhone On Jan 20, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Jenifer Barr <claudas...@gmail.com<mailto:claudas...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi. I have the update before the latest "one and have had no problem either. I mentioned this because Davy's email said that this update... (not the latest one) also had accessibility problems. Davy, what IOS version are you using? Maybe that has something to do with what you are experiencing? Jen Sent from my iPhone On Jan 20, 2017, at 12:29 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: Hi Davy, I updated to whatever the latest update was yesterday and have no issues. Can you be more specific wit some examples where you have problems or where things are not labelled? I noticed that the third of out the 5 tabs at the bottom is not labelled, for me it says from left to right: Home, Calls, Tab 3 of 5, Groups, People When I double tap on where Voiceover says “Tab 3 of 5” Voiceover says “Tap to take photo or video” and I get a screen with a Close button at the top left, then a button to turn the flash on, a button to “Flip Camera” which is followed by Voiceover saying “Backfacing Camera” and then I have buttons labelled “Stickers”, “Draw”, “Text” and a “Previous” and “Next” button. If I go to the “Home” tab I see all my conversations, I have a “Settings” button at the top left, a search field in the middle and a “New Conversation” button at the top right. My conversations are announced as to whether they are “Unread” if they are new and Voiceover says “Actions available” which tells me there are rotor options which are Activate (default), Mute, Delete and More. More gives me a pop-up menu with Block, Mark as Spam, Archive, Mark as Unread (or mark as read if it’s unread) and Cancel. If I double tap to open a conversation I get a “Home, back” button at the top left, the name of the person in the middle followed by when they were last active and at the top right are “Audio Call” and “Video Call”. I am just looking at a message where somebody just sent me a single message, it is read out perfectly with time and all and if I swipe right Voiceover says “Type in message… text field is editing”. Underneath this is a row of items I can find by touching/dragging my finger or I can swipe right and all are announced: Emoji, Camera, Photos, Stickers, Gifs, Voice, Games, More and Like. As soon as I start typing something th “Like” button at the far right changes to a “Send” button. The only oddity is that the far left item, Emoji, says “Selected” even though the regular keyboard is up. If I double tap on it the Emoji keyboard shows and the icon now says “Text, selected” and I can double tap on that to go back to the regular keyboard or there is also a “Toggle Text input” button at the very bottom left of the Emoji keyboard. If I use this to change back to the regular keyboard the top left item n
Re: do not update messenger above V100!!!
I am running the latest version of iOs on a iPhone 7 and like Davey the past two updates of Messenger lost a lot of the buttons being labeled. I contacted FBAccess on Twitter and got their typical fill out this form. > On Jan 20, 2017, at 3:37 PM, Kevin Wassmer <kevinwass...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello folks. I don't post much on this list. But I aggree with Stacy. > This app is not as accessable as the other versons of Messenger. It > works ok. But not that great. For example, I was trying to messege a > friend who I haven't writen to in a while. I kept flicking to the > right on the screen. It kept getting me gack to the begining of the > people I messaged. In fact, I belive once I flicked on to the last > person who I messaged. The app braught me back to the top. what I had > to do is go to the tabs at the bottem. Then I had to flick to the left > and I was able to find others I have messaged in recent times. it does > work with Voice-over. But not like it has in the past. > > On 1/20/17, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> > wrote: >> I wonder if it has to do with the language although I know Ioana is also >> using English. I use an iPhone 6S Plus with the latest public release of iOS >> 10 which is 10.2. Maybe a few others who use Facebook Messengers can say if >> they are having problems since for me I would say it is 100% accessible and >> easy to use. >> >> Regards, >> Sieghard >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Davy Cuppens >> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 10:54 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: do not update messenger above V100!!! >> >> Hi Ioana >> >> Thanx to inform me that I am not alone. >> I had made an mp3 record for a very clever visually impaired iphone user and >> she told me the app did not have a problem at all and even she had to admit >> my message buttons were nolonger labeled. >> Which iphone do you use? >> >> Regards >> Davy >> From: Ioana Gandrabur<mailto:igandra...@gmail.com >> <mailto:igandra...@gmail.com>> >> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 7:01 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com><mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> >> Subject: Re: do not update messenger above V100!!! >> >> I have had a similar problem for a few versions now but it appears that it's >> not present for all voiceover users. >> Thanks to Help I received on the list I learned how to find the send button >> and that suits my needs for now. I did send them a report also bought we >> will see what happens. >> >> Best, >> >> Ioana >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jan 20, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Jenifer Barr >> <claudas...@gmail.com >> <mailto:claudas...@gmail.com><mailto:claudas...@gmail.com >> <mailto:claudas...@gmail.com>>> wrote: >> Hi. >> I have the update before the latest "one and have had no problem either. I >> mentioned this because Davy's email said that this update... (not the latest >> one) also had accessibility problems. >> Davy, what IOS version are you using? Maybe that has something to do with >> what you are experiencing? >> Jen >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jan 20, 2017, at 12:29 PM, Sieghard Weitzel >> <siegh...@live.ca <mailto:siegh...@live.ca><mailto:siegh...@live.ca >> <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>>> wrote: >> Hi Davy, >> >> I updated to whatever the latest update was yesterday and have no issues. >> Can you be more specific wit some examples where you have problems or where >> things are not labelled? >> I noticed that the third of out the 5 tabs at the bottom is not labelled, >> for me it says from left to right: >> Home, Calls, Tab 3 of 5, Groups, People >> When I double tap on where Voiceover says “Tab 3 of 5” Voiceover says “Tap >> to take photo or video” and I get a screen with a Close button at the top >> left, then a button to turn the flash on, a button to “Flip Camera” which is >> followed by Voiceover saying “Backfacing Camera” and then I have buttons >> labelled “Stickers”, “Draw”, “Text” and a “Previous” and “Next” button. >> If I go to the “Home” tab I see all my conversations, I have a “Settings” >> button at the top left, a search field in the middle and a “New >> Conversation” button at the top right. >> My conversations are announced as to whether they are “Unread” if the
Re: do not update messenger above V100!!!
Hi All I live in the U.S I am using an iPhone 7, running IOS 10.2 & have the latest update to Facebook messenger. The only button that is not labeled is the 3rd button across the bottom when the app is first launched; otherwise everything is labeled & easy to use. Donna > > I wonder if it has to do with the language although I know Ioana is also > using English. I use an iPhone 6S Plus with the latest public release of iOS > 10 which is 10.2. Maybe a few others who use Facebook Messengers can say if > they are having problems since for me I would say it is 100% accessible and > easy to use. > > Regards, > Sieghard > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Davy Cuppens > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 10:54 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: do not update messenger above V100!!! > > Hi Ioana > > Thanx to inform me that I am not alone. > I had made an mp3 record for a very clever visually impaired iphone user and > she told me the app did not have a problem at all and even she had to admit > my message buttons were nolonger labeled. > Which iphone do you use? > > Regards > Davy > From: Ioana Gandrabur > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 7:01 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: do not update messenger above V100!!! > > I have had a similar problem for a few versions now but it appears that it's > not present for all voiceover users. > Thanks to Help I received on the list I learned how to find the send button > and that suits my needs for now. I did send them a report also bought we will > see what happens. > > Best, > > Ioana > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 20, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Jenifer Barr <claudas...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi. > I have the update before the latest "one and have had no problem either. I > mentioned this because Davy's email said that this update... (not the latest > one) also had accessibility problems. > Davy, what IOS version are you using? Maybe that has something to do with > what you are experiencing? > Jen > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 20, 2017, at 12:29 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: > > Hi Davy, > > I updated to whatever the latest update was yesterday and have no issues. Can > you be more specific wit some examples where you have problems or where > things are not labelled? > I noticed that the third of out the 5 tabs at the bottom is not labelled, for > me it says from left to right: > Home, Calls, Tab 3 of 5, Groups, People > When I double tap on where Voiceover says “Tab 3 of 5” Voiceover says “Tap to > take photo or video” and I get a screen with a Close button at the top left, > then a button to turn the flash on, a button to “Flip Camera” which is > followed by Voiceover saying “Backfacing Camera” and then I have buttons > labelled “Stickers”, “Draw”, “Text” and a “Previous” and “Next” button. > If I go to the “Home” tab I see all my conversations, I have a “Settings” > button at the top left, a search field in the middle and a “New Conversation” > button at the top right. > My conversations are announced as to whether they are “Unread” if they are > new and Voiceover says “Actions available” which tells me there are rotor > options which are Activate (default), Mute, Delete and More. > More gives me a pop-up menu with Block, Mark as Spam, Archive, Mark as Unread > (or mark as read if it’s unread) and Cancel. > If I double tap to open a conversation I get a “Home, back” button at the top > left, the name of the person in the middle followed by when they were last > active and at the top right are “Audio Call” and “Video Call”. > I am just looking at a message where somebody just sent me a single message, > it is read out perfectly with time and all and if I swipe right Voiceover > says “Type in message… text field is editing”. > Underneath this is a row of items I can find by touching/dragging my finger > or I can swipe right and all are announced: > Emoji, Camera, Photos, Stickers, Gifs, Voice, Games, More and Like. > As soon as I start typing something th “Like” button at the far right changes > to a “Send” button. > The only oddity is that the far left item, Emoji, says “Selected” even though > the regular keyboard is up. If I double tap on it the Emoji keyboard shows > and the icon now says “Text, selected” and I can double tap on that to go > back to the regular keyboard or there is also a “Toggle Text input” button at > the very bottom left of the Emoji keyboard. If I use this to change back to > the regular keyboard the top left item now says “Text” and if I double tap it > it goes back to “Emo
Re: do not update messenger above V100!!!
Hello folks. I don't post much on this list. But I aggree with Stacy. This app is not as accessable as the other versons of Messenger. It works ok. But not that great. For example, I was trying to messege a friend who I haven't writen to in a while. I kept flicking to the right on the screen. It kept getting me gack to the begining of the people I messaged. In fact, I belive once I flicked on to the last person who I messaged. The app braught me back to the top. what I had to do is go to the tabs at the bottem. Then I had to flick to the left and I was able to find others I have messaged in recent times. it does work with Voice-over. But not like it has in the past. On 1/20/17, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: > I wonder if it has to do with the language although I know Ioana is also > using English. I use an iPhone 6S Plus with the latest public release of iOS > 10 which is 10.2. Maybe a few others who use Facebook Messengers can say if > they are having problems since for me I would say it is 100% accessible and > easy to use. > > Regards, > Sieghard > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Davy Cuppens > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 10:54 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: do not update messenger above V100!!! > > Hi Ioana > > Thanx to inform me that I am not alone. > I had made an mp3 record for a very clever visually impaired iphone user and > she told me the app did not have a problem at all and even she had to admit > my message buttons were nolonger labeled. > Which iphone do you use? > > Regards > Davy > From: Ioana Gandrabur<mailto:igandra...@gmail.com> > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 7:01 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: do not update messenger above V100!!! > > I have had a similar problem for a few versions now but it appears that it's > not present for all voiceover users. > Thanks to Help I received on the list I learned how to find the send button > and that suits my needs for now. I did send them a report also bought we > will see what happens. > > Best, > > Ioana > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 20, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Jenifer Barr > <claudas...@gmail.com<mailto:claudas...@gmail.com>> wrote: > Hi. > I have the update before the latest "one and have had no problem either. I > mentioned this because Davy's email said that this update... (not the latest > one) also had accessibility problems. > Davy, what IOS version are you using? Maybe that has something to do with > what you are experiencing? > Jen > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 20, 2017, at 12:29 PM, Sieghard Weitzel > <siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: > Hi Davy, > > I updated to whatever the latest update was yesterday and have no issues. > Can you be more specific wit some examples where you have problems or where > things are not labelled? > I noticed that the third of out the 5 tabs at the bottom is not labelled, > for me it says from left to right: > Home, Calls, Tab 3 of 5, Groups, People > When I double tap on where Voiceover says “Tab 3 of 5” Voiceover says “Tap > to take photo or video” and I get a screen with a Close button at the top > left, then a button to turn the flash on, a button to “Flip Camera” which is > followed by Voiceover saying “Backfacing Camera” and then I have buttons > labelled “Stickers”, “Draw”, “Text” and a “Previous” and “Next” button. > If I go to the “Home” tab I see all my conversations, I have a “Settings” > button at the top left, a search field in the middle and a “New > Conversation” button at the top right. > My conversations are announced as to whether they are “Unread” if they are > new and Voiceover says “Actions available” which tells me there are rotor > options which are Activate (default), Mute, Delete and More. > More gives me a pop-up menu with Block, Mark as Spam, Archive, Mark as > Unread (or mark as read if it’s unread) and Cancel. > If I double tap to open a conversation I get a “Home, back” button at the > top left, the name of the person in the middle followed by when they were > last active and at the top right are “Audio Call” and “Video Call”. > I am just looking at a message where somebody just sent me a single message, > it is read out perfectly with time and all and if I swipe right Voiceover > says “Type in message… text field is editing”. > Underneath this is a row of items I can find by touching/dragging my finger > or I can swipe right and all are announced: > Emoji, Camera, Photos, Stickers, Gifs, Voice, Games, More and Like. > As soon as I start typing something th “Like” button at the far right > changes to a “S
RE: do not update messenger above V100!!!
I wonder if it has to do with the language although I know Ioana is also using English. I use an iPhone 6S Plus with the latest public release of iOS 10 which is 10.2. Maybe a few others who use Facebook Messengers can say if they are having problems since for me I would say it is 100% accessible and easy to use. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Davy Cuppens Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 10:54 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: do not update messenger above V100!!! Hi Ioana Thanx to inform me that I am not alone. I had made an mp3 record for a very clever visually impaired iphone user and she told me the app did not have a problem at all and even she had to admit my message buttons were nolonger labeled. Which iphone do you use? Regards Davy From: Ioana Gandrabur<mailto:igandra...@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 7:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: do not update messenger above V100!!! I have had a similar problem for a few versions now but it appears that it's not present for all voiceover users. Thanks to Help I received on the list I learned how to find the send button and that suits my needs for now. I did send them a report also bought we will see what happens. Best, Ioana Sent from my iPhone On Jan 20, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Jenifer Barr <claudas...@gmail.com<mailto:claudas...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi. I have the update before the latest "one and have had no problem either. I mentioned this because Davy's email said that this update... (not the latest one) also had accessibility problems. Davy, what IOS version are you using? Maybe that has something to do with what you are experiencing? Jen Sent from my iPhone On Jan 20, 2017, at 12:29 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: Hi Davy, I updated to whatever the latest update was yesterday and have no issues. Can you be more specific wit some examples where you have problems or where things are not labelled? I noticed that the third of out the 5 tabs at the bottom is not labelled, for me it says from left to right: Home, Calls, Tab 3 of 5, Groups, People When I double tap on where Voiceover says “Tab 3 of 5” Voiceover says “Tap to take photo or video” and I get a screen with a Close button at the top left, then a button to turn the flash on, a button to “Flip Camera” which is followed by Voiceover saying “Backfacing Camera” and then I have buttons labelled “Stickers”, “Draw”, “Text” and a “Previous” and “Next” button. If I go to the “Home” tab I see all my conversations, I have a “Settings” button at the top left, a search field in the middle and a “New Conversation” button at the top right. My conversations are announced as to whether they are “Unread” if they are new and Voiceover says “Actions available” which tells me there are rotor options which are Activate (default), Mute, Delete and More. More gives me a pop-up menu with Block, Mark as Spam, Archive, Mark as Unread (or mark as read if it’s unread) and Cancel. If I double tap to open a conversation I get a “Home, back” button at the top left, the name of the person in the middle followed by when they were last active and at the top right are “Audio Call” and “Video Call”. I am just looking at a message where somebody just sent me a single message, it is read out perfectly with time and all and if I swipe right Voiceover says “Type in message… text field is editing”. Underneath this is a row of items I can find by touching/dragging my finger or I can swipe right and all are announced: Emoji, Camera, Photos, Stickers, Gifs, Voice, Games, More and Like. As soon as I start typing something th “Like” button at the far right changes to a “Send” button. The only oddity is that the far left item, Emoji, says “Selected” even though the regular keyboard is up. If I double tap on it the Emoji keyboard shows and the icon now says “Text, selected” and I can double tap on that to go back to the regular keyboard or there is also a “Toggle Text input” button at the very bottom left of the Emoji keyboard. If I use this to change back to the regular keyboard the top left item now says “Text” and if I double tap it it goes back to “Emoji, selected” but the keyboard stays on text until I tap this again. Like I said, this is just a bit inconsistent, but everything else for me seems to be perfectly accessible. If I want to send a voice recording instead of a text message I can tap on “Voice” and the entire button part of the screen above the home button but all the way across becomes a big “Record” button. You have to double tap and hold this just as in Whats App messenger and after you let go anything you record is automatically sent. Tap on “Text” at the far left of that row of icons to get out of voice recording mode and bring the on-screen keyboar
Re: do not update messenger above V100!!!
Hi Ioana
Thanx to inform me that I am not alone.
I had made an mp3 record for a very clever visually impaired iphone user and
she told me the app did not have a problem at all and even she had to admit my
message buttons were nolonger labeled.
Which iphone do you use?
Regards
Davy
From: Ioana Gandrabur
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 7:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: do not update messenger above V100!!!
I have had a similar problem for a few versions now but it appears that it's
not present for all voiceover users.
Thanks to Help I received on the list I learned how to find the send button and
that suits my needs for now. I did send them a report also bought we will see
what happens.
Best,
Ioana
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 20, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Jenifer Barr <claudas...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi.
I have the update before the latest "one and have had no problem either. I
mentioned this because Davy's email said that this update... (not the latest
one) also had accessibility problems.
Davy, what IOS version are you using? Maybe that has something to do with
what you are experiencing?
Jen
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 20, 2017, at 12:29 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
Hi Davy,
I updated to whatever the latest update was yesterday and have no issues.
Can you be more specific wit some examples where you have problems or where
things are not labelled?
I noticed that the third of out the 5 tabs at the bottom is not labelled,
for me it says from left to right:
Home, Calls, Tab 3 of 5, Groups, People
When I double tap on where Voiceover says “Tab 3 of 5” Voiceover says “Tap
to take photo or video” and I get a screen with a Close button at the top left,
then a button to turn the flash on, a button to “Flip Camera” which is followed
by Voiceover saying “Backfacing Camera” and then I have buttons labelled
“Stickers”, “Draw”, “Text” and a “Previous” and “Next” button.
If I go to the “Home” tab I see all my conversations, I have a “Settings”
button at the top left, a search field in the middle and a “New Conversation”
button at the top right.
My conversations are announced as to whether they are “Unread” if they are
new and Voiceover says “Actions available” which tells me there are rotor
options which are Activate (default), Mute, Delete and More.
More gives me a pop-up menu with Block, Mark as Spam, Archive, Mark as
Unread (or mark as read if it’s unread) and Cancel.
If I double tap to open a conversation I get a “Home, back” button at the
top left, the name of the person in the middle followed by when they were last
active and at the top right are “Audio Call” and “Video Call”.
I am just looking at a message where somebody just sent me a single
message, it is read out perfectly with time and all and if I swipe right
Voiceover says “Type in message… text field is editing”.
Underneath this is a row of items I can find by touching/dragging my finger
or I can swipe right and all are announced:
Emoji, Camera, Photos, Stickers, Gifs, Voice, Games, More and Like.
As soon as I start typing something th “Like” button at the far right
changes to a “Send” button.
The only oddity is that the far left item, Emoji, says “Selected” even
though the regular keyboard is up. If I double tap on it the Emoji keyboard
shows and the icon now says “Text, selected” and I can double tap on that to go
back to the regular keyboard or there is also a “Toggle Text input” button at
the very bottom left of the Emoji keyboard. If I use this to change back to the
regular keyboard the top left item now says “Text” and if I double tap it it
goes back to “Emoji, selected” but the keyboard stays on text until I tap this
again. Like I said, this is just a bit inconsistent, but everything else for me
seems to be perfectly accessible.
If I want to send a voice recording instead of a text message I can tap on
“Voice” and the entire button part of the screen above the home button but all
the way across becomes a big “Record” button. You have to double tap and hold
this just as in Whats App messenger and after you let go anything you record is
automatically sent.
Tap on “Text” at the far left of that row of icons to get out of voice
recording mode and bring the on-screen keyboard back.
Regards,
Sieghard
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Davy Cuppens
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 6:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: do not update messenger above V100!!!
Hi folks
Since messenger 100.1 the app has become dramatically less accessible.
This is the report I sent to facebook this afternoon. So don’t update the
app!
The latest update of Messenger 101.0 is very unaccessible, most buttons and
tabs are nolonger labeled. this
Re: do not update messenger above V100!!!
Hi Sieghard the buttons within an open message are nolonger labeled with my iphone 5s. You wrote: Underneath this is a row of items I can find by touching/dragging my finger or I can swipe right and all are announced: Emoji, Camera, Photos, Stickers, Gifs, Voice, Games, More and Like. As soon as I start typing something th “Like” button at the far right changes to a “Send” button. That send button is not labeled. I got a very strange message within the body of the message saying in Dutch but I’ll tranlate: some things have been replaced, let me show button. Right sweeping to that I get 2 unlabeled buttons and then the edit text field which is accessible but has the label called “A A”. To the right of that I again have a unlabeled button followed by the like button. I admit, maybe I was to harsh: even my version of messenger is still accessible but really less then earlier versions. I still have a v 93 in my itunes and when I downgrade, I have no problem at all and that version is fully accessible. In Belgium many people wrote to me that they have no problem at all just like you but some do have the same problems as I have. Regards Davy From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 6:29 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: do not update messenger above V100!!! Hi Davy, I updated to whatever the latest update was yesterday and have no issues. Can you be more specific wit some examples where you have problems or where things are not labelled? I noticed that the third of out the 5 tabs at the bottom is not labelled, for me it says from left to right: Home, Calls, Tab 3 of 5, Groups, People When I double tap on where Voiceover says “Tab 3 of 5” Voiceover says “Tap to take photo or video” and I get a screen with a Close button at the top left, then a button to turn the flash on, a button to “Flip Camera” which is followed by Voiceover saying “Backfacing Camera” and then I have buttons labelled “Stickers”, “Draw”, “Text” and a “Previous” and “Next” button. If I go to the “Home” tab I see all my conversations, I have a “Settings” button at the top left, a search field in the middle and a “New Conversation” button at the top right. My conversations are announced as to whether they are “Unread” if they are new and Voiceover says “Actions available” which tells me there are rotor options which are Activate (default), Mute, Delete and More. More gives me a pop-up menu with Block, Mark as Spam, Archive, Mark as Unread (or mark as read if it’s unread) and Cancel. If I double tap to open a conversation I get a “Home, back” button at the top left, the name of the person in the middle followed by when they were last active and at the top right are “Audio Call” and “Video Call”. I am just looking at a message where somebody just sent me a single message, it is read out perfectly with time and all and if I swipe right Voiceover says “Type in message… text field is editing”. Underneath this is a row of items I can find by touching/dragging my finger or I can swipe right and all are announced: Emoji, Camera, Photos, Stickers, Gifs, Voice, Games, More and Like. As soon as I start typing something th “Like” button at the far right changes to a “Send” button. The only oddity is that the far left item, Emoji, says “Selected” even though the regular keyboard is up. If I double tap on it the Emoji keyboard shows and the icon now says “Text, selected” and I can double tap on that to go back to the regular keyboard or there is also a “Toggle Text input” button at the very bottom left of the Emoji keyboard. If I use this to change back to the regular keyboard the top left item now says “Text” and if I double tap it it goes back to “Emoji, selected” but the keyboard stays on text until I tap this again. Like I said, this is just a bit inconsistent, but everything else for me seems to be perfectly accessible. If I want to send a voice recording instead of a text message I can tap on “Voice” and the entire button part of the screen above the home button but all the way across becomes a big “Record” button. You have to double tap and hold this just as in Whats App messenger and after you let go anything you record is automatically sent. Tap on “Text” at the far left of that row of icons to get out of voice recording mode and bring the on-screen keyboard back. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Davy Cuppens Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 6:55 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: do not update messenger above V100!!! Hi folks Since messenger 100.1 the app has become dramatically less accessible. This is the report I sent to facebook this afternoon. So don’t update the app! The latest update of Messenger 101.0 is very unaccessible, most buttons and tabs are nolonger labeled. this has been the case for update 100.1 as well, despite numerous messages sent
Re: do not update messenger above V100!!!
I am using ios10.2 iphone 5s 64 GB everything updated to the latest. I have already tried everything. Messenger was deleted and reinstalled, phone reset, that didn’t work. The buttons in the chat conversation are nolonger labeled, except for the like button. The text edit field has a label called a a . Some tabs are also nolonger labeled. From: Jenifer Barr Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 6:58 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: do not update messenger above V100!!! Hi. I have the update before the latest "one and have had no problem either. I mentioned this because Davy's email said that this update... (not the latest one) also had accessibility problems. Davy, what IOS version are you using? Maybe that has something to do with what you are experiencing? Jen Sent from my iPhone On Jan 20, 2017, at 12:29 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: Hi Davy, I updated to whatever the latest update was yesterday and have no issues. Can you be more specific wit some examples where you have problems or where things are not labelled? I noticed that the third of out the 5 tabs at the bottom is not labelled, for me it says from left to right: Home, Calls, Tab 3 of 5, Groups, People When I double tap on where Voiceover says “Tab 3 of 5” Voiceover says “Tap to take photo or video” and I get a screen with a Close button at the top left, then a button to turn the flash on, a button to “Flip Camera” which is followed by Voiceover saying “Backfacing Camera” and then I have buttons labelled “Stickers”, “Draw”, “Text” and a “Previous” and “Next” button. If I go to the “Home” tab I see all my conversations, I have a “Settings” button at the top left, a search field in the middle and a “New Conversation” button at the top right. My conversations are announced as to whether they are “Unread” if they are new and Voiceover says “Actions available” which tells me there are rotor options which are Activate (default), Mute, Delete and More. More gives me a pop-up menu with Block, Mark as Spam, Archive, Mark as Unread (or mark as read if it’s unread) and Cancel. If I double tap to open a conversation I get a “Home, back” button at the top left, the name of the person in the middle followed by when they were last active and at the top right are “Audio Call” and “Video Call”. I am just looking at a message where somebody just sent me a single message, it is read out perfectly with time and all and if I swipe right Voiceover says “Type in message… text field is editing”. Underneath this is a row of items I can find by touching/dragging my finger or I can swipe right and all are announced: Emoji, Camera, Photos, Stickers, Gifs, Voice, Games, More and Like. As soon as I start typing something th “Like” button at the far right changes to a “Send” button. The only oddity is that the far left item, Emoji, says “Selected” even though the regular keyboard is up. If I double tap on it the Emoji keyboard shows and the icon now says “Text, selected” and I can double tap on that to go back to the regular keyboard or there is also a “Toggle Text input” button at the very bottom left of the Emoji keyboard. If I use this to change back to the regular keyboard the top left item now says “Text” and if I double tap it it goes back to “Emoji, selected” but the keyboard stays on text until I tap this again. Like I said, this is just a bit inconsistent, but everything else for me seems to be perfectly accessible. If I want to send a voice recording instead of a text message I can tap on “Voice” and the entire button part of the screen above the home button but all the way across becomes a big “Record” button. You have to double tap and hold this just as in Whats App messenger and after you let go anything you record is automatically sent. Tap on “Text” at the far left of that row of icons to get out of voice recording mode and bring the on-screen keyboard back. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Davy Cuppens Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 6:55 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: do not update messenger above V100!!! Hi folks Since messenger 100.1 the app has become dramatically less accessible. This is the report I sent to facebook this afternoon. So don’t update the app! The latest update of Messenger 101.0 is very unaccessible, most buttons and tabs are nolonger labeled. this has been the case for update 100.1 as well, despite numerous messages sent by the blind community Facebook refused to restore accessibility. Now this issue will be sent over by me to numerous newspapers and all forums of the blind community saying that facebook is reluctant to solve these accessibility issues since update 100.1. If facebook is nolonger willing to take accessibility into consideration for Messenger usage,
Re: do not update messenger above V100!!!
I have had a similar problem for a few versions now but it appears that it's not present for all voiceover users. Thanks to Help I received on the list I learned how to find the send button and that suits my needs for now. I did send them a report also bought we will see what happens. Best, Ioana Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 20, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Jenifer Barr <claudas...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi. > I have the update before the latest "one and have had no problem either. I > mentioned this because Davy's email said that this update... (not the latest > one) also had accessibility problems. > Davy, what IOS version are you using? Maybe that has something to do with > what you are experiencing? > Jen > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jan 20, 2017, at 12:29 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: >> >> Hi Davy, >> >> I updated to whatever the latest update was yesterday and have no issues. >> Can you be more specific wit some examples where you have problems or where >> things are not labelled? >> I noticed that the third of out the 5 tabs at the bottom is not labelled, >> for me it says from left to right: >> Home, Calls, Tab 3 of 5, Groups, People >> When I double tap on where Voiceover says “Tab 3 of 5” Voiceover says “Tap >> to take photo or video” and I get a screen with a Close button at the top >> left, then a button to turn the flash on, a button to “Flip Camera” which is >> followed by Voiceover saying “Backfacing Camera” and then I have buttons >> labelled “Stickers”, “Draw”, “Text” and a “Previous” and “Next” button. >> If I go to the “Home” tab I see all my conversations, I have a “Settings” >> button at the top left, a search field in the middle and a “New >> Conversation” button at the top right. >> My conversations are announced as to whether they are “Unread” if they are >> new and Voiceover says “Actions available” which tells me there are rotor >> options which are Activate (default), Mute, Delete and More. >> More gives me a pop-up menu with Block, Mark as Spam, Archive, Mark as >> Unread (or mark as read if it’s unread) and Cancel. >> If I double tap to open a conversation I get a “Home, back” button at the >> top left, the name of the person in the middle followed by when they were >> last active and at the top right are “Audio Call” and “Video Call”. >> I am just looking at a message where somebody just sent me a single message, >> it is read out perfectly with time and all and if I swipe right Voiceover >> says “Type in message… text field is editing”. >> Underneath this is a row of items I can find by touching/dragging my finger >> or I can swipe right and all are announced: >> Emoji, Camera, Photos, Stickers, Gifs, Voice, Games, More and Like. >> As soon as I start typing something th “Like” button at the far right >> changes to a “Send” button. >> The only oddity is that the far left item, Emoji, says “Selected” even >> though the regular keyboard is up. If I double tap on it the Emoji keyboard >> shows and the icon now says “Text, selected” and I can double tap on that to >> go back to the regular keyboard or there is also a “Toggle Text input” >> button at the very bottom left of the Emoji keyboard. If I use this to >> change back to the regular keyboard the top left item now says “Text” and if >> I double tap it it goes back to “Emoji, selected” but the keyboard stays on >> text until I tap this again. Like I said, this is just a bit inconsistent, >> but everything else for me seems to be perfectly accessible. >> If I want to send a voice recording instead of a text message I can tap on >> “Voice” and the entire button part of the screen above the home button but >> all the way across becomes a big “Record” button. You have to double tap and >> hold this just as in Whats App messenger and after you let go anything you >> record is automatically sent. >> Tap on “Text” at the far left of that row of icons to get out of voice >> recording mode and bring the on-screen keyboard back. >> >> Regards, >> Sieghard >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Davy Cuppens >> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 6:55 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: do not update messenger above V100!!! >> >> Hi folks >> >> Since messenger 100.1 the app has become dramatically less accessible. >> >> This is the report I sent to facebook this afternoon. So don’t update the >> app! >> >> The latest update of Messenger 101.0
Re: do not update messenger above V100!!!
Hi. I have the update before the latest "one and have had no problem either. I mentioned this because Davy's email said that this update... (not the latest one) also had accessibility problems. Davy, what IOS version are you using? Maybe that has something to do with what you are experiencing? Jen Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 20, 2017, at 12:29 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: > > Hi Davy, > > I updated to whatever the latest update was yesterday and have no issues. Can > you be more specific wit some examples where you have problems or where > things are not labelled? > I noticed that the third of out the 5 tabs at the bottom is not labelled, for > me it says from left to right: > Home, Calls, Tab 3 of 5, Groups, People > When I double tap on where Voiceover says “Tab 3 of 5” Voiceover says “Tap to > take photo or video” and I get a screen with a Close button at the top left, > then a button to turn the flash on, a button to “Flip Camera” which is > followed by Voiceover saying “Backfacing Camera” and then I have buttons > labelled “Stickers”, “Draw”, “Text” and a “Previous” and “Next” button. > If I go to the “Home” tab I see all my conversations, I have a “Settings” > button at the top left, a search field in the middle and a “New Conversation” > button at the top right. > My conversations are announced as to whether they are “Unread” if they are > new and Voiceover says “Actions available” which tells me there are rotor > options which are Activate (default), Mute, Delete and More. > More gives me a pop-up menu with Block, Mark as Spam, Archive, Mark as Unread > (or mark as read if it’s unread) and Cancel. > If I double tap to open a conversation I get a “Home, back” button at the top > left, the name of the person in the middle followed by when they were last > active and at the top right are “Audio Call” and “Video Call”. > I am just looking at a message where somebody just sent me a single message, > it is read out perfectly with time and all and if I swipe right Voiceover > says “Type in message… text field is editing”. > Underneath this is a row of items I can find by touching/dragging my finger > or I can swipe right and all are announced: > Emoji, Camera, Photos, Stickers, Gifs, Voice, Games, More and Like. > As soon as I start typing something th “Like” button at the far right changes > to a “Send” button. > The only oddity is that the far left item, Emoji, says “Selected” even though > the regular keyboard is up. If I double tap on it the Emoji keyboard shows > and the icon now says “Text, selected” and I can double tap on that to go > back to the regular keyboard or there is also a “Toggle Text input” button at > the very bottom left of the Emoji keyboard. If I use this to change back to > the regular keyboard the top left item now says “Text” and if I double tap it > it goes back to “Emoji, selected” but the keyboard stays on text until I tap > this again. Like I said, this is just a bit inconsistent, but everything else > for me seems to be perfectly accessible. > If I want to send a voice recording instead of a text message I can tap on > “Voice” and the entire button part of the screen above the home button but > all the way across becomes a big “Record” button. You have to double tap and > hold this just as in Whats App messenger and after you let go anything you > record is automatically sent. > Tap on “Text” at the far left of that row of icons to get out of voice > recording mode and bring the on-screen keyboard back. > > Regards, > Sieghard > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Davy Cuppens > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 6:55 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: do not update messenger above V100!!! > > Hi folks > > Since messenger 100.1 the app has become dramatically less accessible. > > This is the report I sent to facebook this afternoon. So don’t update the app! > > The latest update of Messenger 101.0 is very unaccessible, most buttons and > tabs are nolonger labeled. this has been the case for update 100.1 as well, > despite numerous messages sent by the blind community Facebook refused to > restore accessibility. Now this issue will be sent over by me to numerous > newspapers and all forums of the blind community saying that facebook is > reluctant to solve these accessibility issues since update 100.1. > If facebook is nolonger willing to take accessibility into consideration for > Messenger usage, please make the latest update before v100.1 back available > on the Apple appstore. > Regards > Davy > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you
RE: do not update messenger above V100!!!
Hi Davy, I updated to whatever the latest update was yesterday and have no issues. Can you be more specific wit some examples where you have problems or where things are not labelled? I noticed that the third of out the 5 tabs at the bottom is not labelled, for me it says from left to right: Home, Calls, Tab 3 of 5, Groups, People When I double tap on where Voiceover says “Tab 3 of 5” Voiceover says “Tap to take photo or video” and I get a screen with a Close button at the top left, then a button to turn the flash on, a button to “Flip Camera” which is followed by Voiceover saying “Backfacing Camera” and then I have buttons labelled “Stickers”, “Draw”, “Text” and a “Previous” and “Next” button. If I go to the “Home” tab I see all my conversations, I have a “Settings” button at the top left, a search field in the middle and a “New Conversation” button at the top right. My conversations are announced as to whether they are “Unread” if they are new and Voiceover says “Actions available” which tells me there are rotor options which are Activate (default), Mute, Delete and More. More gives me a pop-up menu with Block, Mark as Spam, Archive, Mark as Unread (or mark as read if it’s unread) and Cancel. If I double tap to open a conversation I get a “Home, back” button at the top left, the name of the person in the middle followed by when they were last active and at the top right are “Audio Call” and “Video Call”. I am just looking at a message where somebody just sent me a single message, it is read out perfectly with time and all and if I swipe right Voiceover says “Type in message… text field is editing”. Underneath this is a row of items I can find by touching/dragging my finger or I can swipe right and all are announced: Emoji, Camera, Photos, Stickers, Gifs, Voice, Games, More and Like. As soon as I start typing something th “Like” button at the far right changes to a “Send” button. The only oddity is that the far left item, Emoji, says “Selected” even though the regular keyboard is up. If I double tap on it the Emoji keyboard shows and the icon now says “Text, selected” and I can double tap on that to go back to the regular keyboard or there is also a “Toggle Text input” button at the very bottom left of the Emoji keyboard. If I use this to change back to the regular keyboard the top left item now says “Text” and if I double tap it it goes back to “Emoji, selected” but the keyboard stays on text until I tap this again. Like I said, this is just a bit inconsistent, but everything else for me seems to be perfectly accessible. If I want to send a voice recording instead of a text message I can tap on “Voice” and the entire button part of the screen above the home button but all the way across becomes a big “Record” button. You have to double tap and hold this just as in Whats App messenger and after you let go anything you record is automatically sent. Tap on “Text” at the far left of that row of icons to get out of voice recording mode and bring the on-screen keyboard back. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Davy Cuppens Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 6:55 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: do not update messenger above V100!!! Hi folks Since messenger 100.1 the app has become dramatically less accessible. This is the report I sent to facebook this afternoon. So don’t update the app! The latest update of Messenger 101.0 is very unaccessible, most buttons and tabs are nolonger labeled. this has been the case for update 100.1 as well, despite numerous messages sent by the blind community Facebook refused to restore accessibility. Now this issue will be sent over by me to numerous newspapers and all forums of the blind community saying that facebook is reluctant to solve these accessibility issues since update 100.1. If facebook is nolonger willing to take accessibility into consideration for Messenger usage, please make the latest update before v100.1 back available on the Apple appstore. Regards Davy -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto
do not update messenger above V100!!!
Hi folks Since messenger 100.1 the app has become dramatically less accessible. This is the report I sent to facebook this afternoon. So don’t update the app! The latest update of Messenger 101.0 is very unaccessible, most buttons and tabs are nolonger labeled. this has been the case for update 100.1 as well, despite numerous messages sent by the blind community Facebook refused to restore accessibility. Now this issue will be sent over by me to numerous newspapers and all forums of the blind community saying that facebook is reluctant to solve these accessibility issues since update 100.1. If facebook is nolonger willing to take accessibility into consideration for Messenger usage, please make the latest update before v100.1 back available on the Apple appstore. Regards Davy -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
