Re: iPad as a Productivity Tool

2021-08-26 Thread Mary Otten
I haven’t had an iPad in a long time. I think having one with a Bluetooth 
keyboard would be good if it has gotten better with Accessibility. For example, 
as far as I know, there is no good way to deal with anything but a very 
rudimentary PDF document on Apple products.. Got links. Nothing. Have to read a 
table? Can’t do it. I don’t know how word and XL would work, but I sure 
wouldn’t do it without a keyboard. I thought Apple had instituted some kind of 
find future equivalent to what we’ve been able to do in windows for years with 
screen readers. But I might be wrong. I thought they had done it for the Mac 
with voiceover but that would’ve carried over to the iPad. But since my only 
Apple products these days are  an iPhone and   watch, I’m not in a position to 
make definitive statements.


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> On Aug 26, 2021, at 11:22 AM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Joe,
> 
> I do have an iPad and enjoy it, but there are still some things I find much 
> easier to do on a PC.  
> 
> You can navigate by headings in a browser,but I know of no way to do this 
> without using the rotor.
> 
> I also am a heavy user of the Find feature with JAWS on web pages and am not 
> aware of an equivalent in IOS.  I would love to be proven wrong on this.
> 
> I also need to use Excel and Word quite a lot, which I find much easier on 
> the PC.
> 
> So it really depends on what you want to use it for, in my opinion.
> 
> Pam
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joe 
> Orozco
> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2021 12:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iPad as a Productivity Tool
> 
> Hi, I'm hoping someone can help educate me on the practical use of an
> iPad, a topic I know comes up routinely on the list. I have an iPhone,
> understand the benefits of iOS and the great progress of Voiceover.
> I'm still on the hunt for a productive tablet though and wonder if the
> iPad has improved in the past couple years, understanding of course
> that "improvement" is purely subjective.
> 
> First, have we made any progress with web browsing on iOS? That is to
> say, with a Bluetooth keyboard, have we improved the ability to do
> things like jump from heading to heading or navigate by paragraph
> without using the roter?
> 
> Second, regarding document editing, is Ulysses still the best editing
> app out there? I'm looking for something to integrate well with
> Dropbox and is able to accept Markup language. I'd rather pay a lump
> sum as opposed to a subscription plan, but if Ulysses is still the
> best bet, I'd be curious to know this.
> 
> Yes, I am guilty of wanting to see some of the JAWS ease of use on
> iOS, which I know is not possible or fair. Still, I am a creature of
> habit, and if my only recourse is to circle back to PC tablet options,
> I'll do so. The iPad is always back there in the back of my mind, and
> if you've picked it up as your tool of productivity, I'd love to hear
> from you.
> 
> Thank you kindly in advance,
> 
> Joe
> 
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RE: iPad as a Productivity Tool

2021-08-26 Thread Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Hi Joe,

I do have an iPad and enjoy it, but there are still some things I find much 
easier to do on a PC.  

You can navigate by headings in a browser,but I know of no way to do this 
without using the rotor.

I also am a heavy user of the Find feature with JAWS on web pages and am not 
aware of an equivalent in IOS.  I would love to be proven wrong on this.

I also need to use Excel and Word quite a lot, which I find much easier on the 
PC.

So it really depends on what you want to use it for, in my opinion.

Pam




-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joe 
Orozco
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2021 12:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPad as a Productivity Tool

Hi, I'm hoping someone can help educate me on the practical use of an
iPad, a topic I know comes up routinely on the list. I have an iPhone,
understand the benefits of iOS and the great progress of Voiceover.
I'm still on the hunt for a productive tablet though and wonder if the
iPad has improved in the past couple years, understanding of course
that "improvement" is purely subjective.

First, have we made any progress with web browsing on iOS? That is to
say, with a Bluetooth keyboard, have we improved the ability to do
things like jump from heading to heading or navigate by paragraph
without using the roter?

Second, regarding document editing, is Ulysses still the best editing
app out there? I'm looking for something to integrate well with
Dropbox and is able to accept Markup language. I'd rather pay a lump
sum as opposed to a subscription plan, but if Ulysses is still the
best bet, I'd be curious to know this.

Yes, I am guilty of wanting to see some of the JAWS ease of use on
iOS, which I know is not possible or fair. Still, I am a creature of
habit, and if my only recourse is to circle back to PC tablet options,
I'll do so. The iPad is always back there in the back of my mind, and
if you've picked it up as your tool of productivity, I'd love to hear
from you.

Thank you kindly in advance,

Joe


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Re: iPad as a Productivity Tool

2021-08-26 Thread Anthony Vece
Hi Joe; I’ve been using iOS products and Mac products since 2015. I’ve never 
went back to windows for any reason. Just pick up the iOS and Mac products and 
don’t look back. When I want to edit an app I bring it into notes. I do it by 
hand. And you certainly can jump from heading to heading with a Bluetooth 
keyboard. Hope this helps. Anthony

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> On Aug 26, 2021, at 12:46 PM, Joe Orozco  wrote:
> 
> Hi, I'm hoping someone can help educate me on the practical use of an
> iPad, a topic I know comes up routinely on the list. I have an iPhone,
> understand the benefits of iOS and the great progress of Voiceover.
> I'm still on the hunt for a productive tablet though and wonder if the
> iPad has improved in the past couple years, understanding of course
> that "improvement" is purely subjective.
> 
> First, have we made any progress with web browsing on iOS? That is to
> say, with a Bluetooth keyboard, have we improved the ability to do
> things like jump from heading to heading or navigate by paragraph
> without using the roter?
> 
> Second, regarding document editing, is Ulysses still the best editing
> app out there? I'm looking for something to integrate well with
> Dropbox and is able to accept Markup language. I'd rather pay a lump
> sum as opposed to a subscription plan, but if Ulysses is still the
> best bet, I'd be curious to know this.
> 
> Yes, I am guilty of wanting to see some of the JAWS ease of use on
> iOS, which I know is not possible or fair. Still, I am a creature of
> habit, and if my only recourse is to circle back to PC tablet options,
> I'll do so. The iPad is always back there in the back of my mind, and
> if you've picked it up as your tool of productivity, I'd love to hear
> from you.
> 
> Thank you kindly in advance,
> 
> Joe
> 
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iPad as a Productivity Tool

2021-08-26 Thread Joe Orozco
Hi, I'm hoping someone can help educate me on the practical use of an
iPad, a topic I know comes up routinely on the list. I have an iPhone,
understand the benefits of iOS and the great progress of Voiceover.
I'm still on the hunt for a productive tablet though and wonder if the
iPad has improved in the past couple years, understanding of course
that "improvement" is purely subjective.

First, have we made any progress with web browsing on iOS? That is to
say, with a Bluetooth keyboard, have we improved the ability to do
things like jump from heading to heading or navigate by paragraph
without using the roter?

Second, regarding document editing, is Ulysses still the best editing
app out there? I'm looking for something to integrate well with
Dropbox and is able to accept Markup language. I'd rather pay a lump
sum as opposed to a subscription plan, but if Ulysses is still the
best bet, I'd be curious to know this.

Yes, I am guilty of wanting to see some of the JAWS ease of use on
iOS, which I know is not possible or fair. Still, I am a creature of
habit, and if my only recourse is to circle back to PC tablet options,
I'll do so. The iPad is always back there in the back of my mind, and
if you've picked it up as your tool of productivity, I'd love to hear
from you.

Thank you kindly in advance,

Joe


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RE: utility of an iPad as a productivity tool

2013-12-23 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
I'd like to check this out. I'll be trying on my iPhone, but in Windows 7 with 
IE8 and JAWS 15, I get to the page, find the Play/Pause button, but nothing 
happens when I hit either Spacebar or Enter.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robert Carter
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 8:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: utility of an iPad as a productivity tool

Hi,

I love Jazz and recently discovered that one of my favorite Jazz radio programs 
has a live stream through Stanford University. I do not use Adobe flash on my 
Mac and this stream would not play on the Mac. The stream plays great, however, 
on my iPad.

For anyone who cares, the show is called River Walk Jazz.
http://riverwalkjazz.stanford.edu

Robert Carter



Sent from my iPad

 On Dec 21, 2013, at 7:55 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Robert,
 
 When we purchased an iPad for my wife, I really didn't plan to use it that 
 much.  We got the new iPad Mini.  Like you, I now love listening to audio, 
 anything from music to radio streams, books and sporting events.  Having the 
 new Radium App which allows access to XM content is wonderful.  And I'm 
 really impressed with the battery life.  Last Sunday, I had charged our  unit 
 in the morning.  My wife used it for a while before I took it over for the 
 afternoon football games.  I'm guessing when I started using it, the battery 
 level may have been at around 98%.  I had the unit running non-stop for 4 
 hours, I made no adjustments in settings to conserve battery life, VO was 
 running.  I checked the battery after 4 hours of continuous use, and it was 
 at 88%.  As it ran down about 2 to 3% per hour,I'd say this is really 
 outstanding.  The unit was in a locked state, so perhaps that helped.
 
 Les
 On Dec 21, 2013, at 8:04 AM, Robert Carter nc5rn...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I am a huge iPhone lover and was rather slow to really come to love the iPad.
 
 I am totally blind and like others have said, I spent a lot of time 
 wondering whether or not the larger screen really offered the VoiceOver user 
 any advantage.
 
 Last year, my employer purchased the iPad 3 for everyone in my department 
 who wanted one. I got one and gradually installed some of my favorite apps. 
 I discovered that I really enjoyed working with email and safari on the 
 larger screen. In mail, for example, all of the mailboxes are listed along 
 the left side of the screen. You can simply run your finger down the mailbox 
 column and double-tap on the mailbox that you want to open. Of course, I can 
 work fine with email on my iPhone but this layout on the iPad is nice for 
 both sighted and blind users.
 
 I also found that listening to audio on the ipad's built-in speakers was 
 nicer than the iPhone's speaker. Again, I can hear audio just fine on the 
 iPhone but given a choice of listening to a book or sports broadcast on 
 either, I would choose the iPad.
 
 Also, it is really nice to have two iOS devices so that when the battery 
 runs low on one, you can grab the other device and keep on working.
 
 I ended up liking the iPad enough that when the new much faster and thinner 
 iPad Air came out, I gave the iPad 3 back to my department and purchased the 
 iPad Air.
 
 I do agree that having both an iPhone and an iPad is a luxury. If I could 
 only afford one, I would choose the iPhone. Having them both is certainly 
 the best of all for me.
 
 Robert Carter
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Dec 21, 2013, at 1:55 AM, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 We have one of the newer Mini Gen2 models;  and battery seems to be in the 
 negative,  shorter charge time means smaller charge;  certainly not as good 
 as before.  So a bit of a trade-off between charge time and duration of 
 useage. She still likes it though.
 
 Agree about use of mBraille on it, though I sold my 1st gen Mini in favour 
 of a second 4S phone. I can't see enough for the bigger screen to have 
 offered anything useful, so let itgo.
 
 Rh.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 11:26 PM
 Subject: Re: utility of an iPad as a productivity tool
 
 
 Personally, I don't think the iPad offers anything the iPhone does not in 
 terms of apps. It has a better battery life, and some people prefer the 
 interface that some apps (like Mailor Safari) offer, but that's it. Oh, if 
 you use Mbraille, you can type with your fingers straight across the 
 screen. 
 Low vision users often like the larger screen for viewing magnified images 
 or other low-vision apps, but for a blind person that does not matter.
 On Dec 19, 2013, at 8:53 PM, Aruni Sharma aruni...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello listers, This is Aruni Sharma from the southern part of the globe. I 
 am teaching in a PG college here in lucknow, India.
 I have a question regarding the utility of an Ipad. is it really

Re: utility of an iPad as a productivity tool

2013-12-21 Thread RobH.
We have one of the newer Mini Gen2 models;  and battery seems to be in the 
negative,  shorter charge time means smaller charge;  certainly not as good 
as before.  So a bit of a trade-off between charge time and duration of 
useage. She still likes it though.

Agree about use of mBraille on it, though I sold my 1st gen Mini in favour 
of a second 4S phone. I can't see enough for the bigger screen to have 
offered anything useful, so let itgo.

Rh.
- Original Message - 
From: Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 11:26 PM
Subject: Re: utility of an iPad as a productivity tool


Personally, I don't think the iPad offers anything the iPhone does not in 
terms of apps. It has a better battery life, and some people prefer the 
interface that some apps (like Mailor Safari) offer, but that's it. Oh, if 
you use Mbraille, you can type with your fingers straight across the screen. 
Low vision users often like the larger screen for viewing magnified images 
or other low-vision apps, but for a blind person that does not matter.
On Dec 19, 2013, at 8:53 PM, Aruni Sharma aruni...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello listers, This is Aruni Sharma from the southern part of the globe. I 
 am teaching in a PG college here in lucknow, India.
 I have a question regarding the utility of an Ipad. is it really worth 
 investing in a ipad if one already has iPhone. In other words, does the 
 iPad offer any extra benefit as a productive tool over an iphone?

 Thanks and regards
 Aruni SharmaAsst. prof. JNPG College

 Lucknow
 Sent from my iPod
 Connect with me:
 skype: aruni_sharma
 facebook; arunisharma
 twitter: twitter.com/arunisharma

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Re: utility of an iPad as a productivity tool

2013-12-21 Thread Robert Carter
Hi,

I am a huge iPhone lover and was rather slow to really come to love the iPad.

I am totally blind and like others have said, I spent a lot of time wondering 
whether or not the larger screen really offered the VoiceOver user any 
advantage.

Last year, my employer purchased the iPad 3 for everyone in my department who 
wanted one. I got one and gradually installed some of my favorite apps. I 
discovered that I really enjoyed working with email and safari on the larger 
screen. In mail, for example, all of the mailboxes are listed along the left 
side of the screen. You can simply run your finger down the mailbox column and 
double-tap on the mailbox that you want to open. Of course, I can work fine 
with email on my iPhone but this layout on the iPad is nice for both sighted 
and blind users.

I also found that listening to audio on the ipad's built-in speakers was nicer 
than the iPhone's speaker. Again, I can hear audio just fine on the iPhone but 
given a choice of listening to a book or sports broadcast on either, I would 
choose the iPad.

Also, it is really nice to have two iOS devices so that when the battery runs 
low on one, you can grab the other device and keep on working.

I ended up liking the iPad enough that when the new much faster and thinner 
iPad Air came out, I gave the iPad 3 back to my department and purchased the 
iPad Air.

I do agree that having both an iPhone and an iPad is a luxury. If I could only 
afford one, I would choose the iPhone. Having them both is certainly the best 
of all for me.

Robert Carter

Sent from my iPad

 On Dec 21, 2013, at 1:55 AM, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 We have one of the newer Mini Gen2 models;  and battery seems to be in the 
 negative,  shorter charge time means smaller charge;  certainly not as good 
 as before.  So a bit of a trade-off between charge time and duration of 
 useage. She still likes it though.
 
 Agree about use of mBraille on it, though I sold my 1st gen Mini in favour 
 of a second 4S phone. I can't see enough for the bigger screen to have 
 offered anything useful, so let itgo.
 
 Rh.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 11:26 PM
 Subject: Re: utility of an iPad as a productivity tool
 
 
 Personally, I don't think the iPad offers anything the iPhone does not in 
 terms of apps. It has a better battery life, and some people prefer the 
 interface that some apps (like Mailor Safari) offer, but that's it. Oh, if 
 you use Mbraille, you can type with your fingers straight across the screen. 
 Low vision users often like the larger screen for viewing magnified images 
 or other low-vision apps, but for a blind person that does not matter.
 On Dec 19, 2013, at 8:53 PM, Aruni Sharma aruni...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello listers, This is Aruni Sharma from the southern part of the globe. I 
 am teaching in a PG college here in lucknow, India.
 I have a question regarding the utility of an Ipad. is it really worth 
 investing in a ipad if one already has iPhone. In other words, does the 
 iPad offer any extra benefit as a productive tool over an iphone?
 
 Thanks and regards
 Aruni SharmaAsst. prof. JNPG College
 
 Lucknow
 Sent from my iPod
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Re: utility of an iPad as a productivity tool

2013-12-21 Thread Les Kriegler
Hi Robert,

When we purchased an iPad for my wife, I really didn't plan to use it that 
much.  We got the new iPad Mini.  Like you, I now love listening to audio, 
anything from music to radio streams, books and sporting events.  Having the 
new Radium App which allows access to XM content is wonderful.  And I'm really 
impressed with the battery life.  Last Sunday, I had charged our  unit in the 
morning.  My wife used it for a while before I took it over for the afternoon 
football games.  I'm guessing when I started using it, the battery level may 
have been at around 98%.  I had the unit running non-stop for 4 hours, I made 
no adjustments in settings to conserve battery life, VO was running.  I checked 
the battery after 4 hours of continuous use, and it was at 88%.  As it ran down 
about 2 to 3% per hour,I'd say this is really outstanding.  The unit was in a 
locked state, so perhaps that helped.

Les
On Dec 21, 2013, at 8:04 AM, Robert Carter nc5rn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I am a huge iPhone lover and was rather slow to really come to love the iPad.
 
 I am totally blind and like others have said, I spent a lot of time wondering 
 whether or not the larger screen really offered the VoiceOver user any 
 advantage.
 
 Last year, my employer purchased the iPad 3 for everyone in my department who 
 wanted one. I got one and gradually installed some of my favorite apps. I 
 discovered that I really enjoyed working with email and safari on the larger 
 screen. In mail, for example, all of the mailboxes are listed along the left 
 side of the screen. You can simply run your finger down the mailbox column 
 and double-tap on the mailbox that you want to open. Of course, I can work 
 fine with email on my iPhone but this layout on the iPad is nice for both 
 sighted and blind users.
 
 I also found that listening to audio on the ipad's built-in speakers was 
 nicer than the iPhone's speaker. Again, I can hear audio just fine on the 
 iPhone but given a choice of listening to a book or sports broadcast on 
 either, I would choose the iPad.
 
 Also, it is really nice to have two iOS devices so that when the battery runs 
 low on one, you can grab the other device and keep on working.
 
 I ended up liking the iPad enough that when the new much faster and thinner 
 iPad Air came out, I gave the iPad 3 back to my department and purchased the 
 iPad Air.
 
 I do agree that having both an iPhone and an iPad is a luxury. If I could 
 only afford one, I would choose the iPhone. Having them both is certainly the 
 best of all for me.
 
 Robert Carter
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Dec 21, 2013, at 1:55 AM, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 We have one of the newer Mini Gen2 models;  and battery seems to be in the 
 negative,  shorter charge time means smaller charge;  certainly not as good 
 as before.  So a bit of a trade-off between charge time and duration of 
 useage. She still likes it though.
 
 Agree about use of mBraille on it, though I sold my 1st gen Mini in favour 
 of a second 4S phone. I can't see enough for the bigger screen to have 
 offered anything useful, so let itgo.
 
 Rh.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 11:26 PM
 Subject: Re: utility of an iPad as a productivity tool
 
 
 Personally, I don't think the iPad offers anything the iPhone does not in 
 terms of apps. It has a better battery life, and some people prefer the 
 interface that some apps (like Mailor Safari) offer, but that's it. Oh, if 
 you use Mbraille, you can type with your fingers straight across the screen. 
 Low vision users often like the larger screen for viewing magnified images 
 or other low-vision apps, but for a blind person that does not matter.
 On Dec 19, 2013, at 8:53 PM, Aruni Sharma aruni...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello listers, This is Aruni Sharma from the southern part of the globe. I 
 am teaching in a PG college here in lucknow, India.
 I have a question regarding the utility of an Ipad. is it really worth 
 investing in a ipad if one already has iPhone. In other words, does the 
 iPad offer any extra benefit as a productive tool over an iphone?
 
 Thanks and regards
 Aruni SharmaAsst. prof. JNPG College
 
 Lucknow
 Sent from my iPod
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Re: utility of an iPad as a productivity tool

2013-12-21 Thread Robert Carter
Hi,

I love Jazz and recently discovered that one of my favorite Jazz radio programs 
has a live stream through Stanford University. I do not use Adobe flash on my 
Mac and this stream would not play on the Mac. The stream plays great, however, 
on my iPad.

For anyone who cares, the show is called River Walk Jazz.
http://riverwalkjazz.stanford.edu

Robert Carter



Sent from my iPad

 On Dec 21, 2013, at 7:55 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Robert,
 
 When we purchased an iPad for my wife, I really didn't plan to use it that 
 much.  We got the new iPad Mini.  Like you, I now love listening to audio, 
 anything from music to radio streams, books and sporting events.  Having the 
 new Radium App which allows access to XM content is wonderful.  And I'm 
 really impressed with the battery life.  Last Sunday, I had charged our  unit 
 in the morning.  My wife used it for a while before I took it over for the 
 afternoon football games.  I'm guessing when I started using it, the battery 
 level may have been at around 98%.  I had the unit running non-stop for 4 
 hours, I made no adjustments in settings to conserve battery life, VO was 
 running.  I checked the battery after 4 hours of continuous use, and it was 
 at 88%.  As it ran down about 2 to 3% per hour,I'd say this is really 
 outstanding.  The unit was in a locked state, so perhaps that helped.
 
 Les
 On Dec 21, 2013, at 8:04 AM, Robert Carter nc5rn...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I am a huge iPhone lover and was rather slow to really come to love the iPad.
 
 I am totally blind and like others have said, I spent a lot of time 
 wondering whether or not the larger screen really offered the VoiceOver user 
 any advantage.
 
 Last year, my employer purchased the iPad 3 for everyone in my department 
 who wanted one. I got one and gradually installed some of my favorite apps. 
 I discovered that I really enjoyed working with email and safari on the 
 larger screen. In mail, for example, all of the mailboxes are listed along 
 the left side of the screen. You can simply run your finger down the mailbox 
 column and double-tap on the mailbox that you want to open. Of course, I can 
 work fine with email on my iPhone but this layout on the iPad is nice for 
 both sighted and blind users.
 
 I also found that listening to audio on the ipad's built-in speakers was 
 nicer than the iPhone's speaker. Again, I can hear audio just fine on the 
 iPhone but given a choice of listening to a book or sports broadcast on 
 either, I would choose the iPad.
 
 Also, it is really nice to have two iOS devices so that when the battery 
 runs low on one, you can grab the other device and keep on working.
 
 I ended up liking the iPad enough that when the new much faster and thinner 
 iPad Air came out, I gave the iPad 3 back to my department and purchased the 
 iPad Air.
 
 I do agree that having both an iPhone and an iPad is a luxury. If I could 
 only afford one, I would choose the iPhone. Having them both is certainly 
 the best of all for me.
 
 Robert Carter
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Dec 21, 2013, at 1:55 AM, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 We have one of the newer Mini Gen2 models;  and battery seems to be in the 
 negative,  shorter charge time means smaller charge;  certainly not as good 
 as before.  So a bit of a trade-off between charge time and duration of 
 useage. She still likes it though.
 
 Agree about use of mBraille on it, though I sold my 1st gen Mini in favour 
 of a second 4S phone. I can't see enough for the bigger screen to have 
 offered anything useful, so let itgo.
 
 Rh.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 11:26 PM
 Subject: Re: utility of an iPad as a productivity tool
 
 
 Personally, I don't think the iPad offers anything the iPhone does not in 
 terms of apps. It has a better battery life, and some people prefer the 
 interface that some apps (like Mailor Safari) offer, but that's it. Oh, if 
 you use Mbraille, you can type with your fingers straight across the 
 screen. 
 Low vision users often like the larger screen for viewing magnified images 
 or other low-vision apps, but for a blind person that does not matter.
 On Dec 19, 2013, at 8:53 PM, Aruni Sharma aruni...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello listers, This is Aruni Sharma from the southern part of the globe. I 
 am teaching in a PG college here in lucknow, India.
 I have a question regarding the utility of an Ipad. is it really worth 
 investing in a ipad if one already has iPhone. In other words, does the 
 iPad offer any extra benefit as a productive tool over an iphone?
 
 Thanks and regards
 Aruni SharmaAsst. prof. JNPG College
 
 Lucknow
 Sent from my iPod
 Connect with me:
 skype: aruni_sharma
 facebook; arunisharma
 twitter: twitter.com/arunisharma
 
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Re: utility of an iPad as a productivity tool

2013-12-21 Thread Russ Kiehne
I recently bought a refurbished ipad mini and really like it for the 
following reasons.
The speakers in it sound so much better than the speaker in my ipod touch 
5th generation.
With it's larger battery, I get a lot of extra playtime over my ipod touch 
5th generation.

I mainly use it as my main reading device.

-Original Message- 
From: Joe

Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 8:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: utility of an iPad as a productivity tool

For a visually impaired person, perhaps. For a totally blind one, none. I'm
going to post about my experiences to my blog soon, but long story short, I
just recently gave mine away because for me personally, the iPhone and iPad
were redundant. To each his own, but if it's an educational setting with a
limited budget, I wouldn't do it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alex Hall
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 6:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: utility of an iPad as a productivity tool

Personally, I don't think the iPad offers anything the iPhone does not in
terms of apps. It has a better battery life, and some people prefer the
interface that some apps (like Mailor Safari) offer, but that's it. Oh, if
you use Mbraille, you can type with your fingers straight across the screen.
Low vision users often like the larger screen for viewing magnified images
or other low-vision apps, but for a blind person that does not matter.
On Dec 19, 2013, at 8:53 PM, Aruni Sharma aruni...@gmail.com wrote:


Hello listers, This is Aruni Sharma from the southern part of the globe. I

am teaching in a PG college here in lucknow, India.

I have a question regarding the utility of an Ipad. is it really worth

investing in a ipad if one already has iPhone. In other words, does the iPad
offer any extra benefit as a productive tool over an iphone?


Thanks and regards
Aruni SharmaAsst. prof. JNPG College

Lucknow
Sent from my iPod
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facebook; arunisharma
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Re: utility of an iPad as a productivity tool

2013-12-21 Thread Russ Kiehne
Wow, thanks for this.  I listen to this show every Sunday night on KCSm here 
in the SF bay area.


-Original Message- 
From: Robert Carter

Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 6:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: utility of an iPad as a productivity tool

Hi,

I love Jazz and recently discovered that one of my favorite Jazz radio 
programs has a live stream through Stanford University. I do not use Adobe 
flash on my Mac and this stream would not play on the Mac. The stream plays 
great, however, on my iPad.


For anyone who cares, the show is called River Walk Jazz.
http://riverwalkjazz.stanford.edu

Robert Carter



Sent from my iPad


On Dec 21, 2013, at 7:55 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Robert,

When we purchased an iPad for my wife, I really didn't plan to use it that 
much.  We got the new iPad Mini.  Like you, I now love listening to audio, 
anything from music to radio streams, books and sporting events.  Having 
the new Radium App which allows access to XM content is wonderful.  And 
I'm really impressed with the battery life.  Last Sunday, I had charged 
our  unit in the morning.  My wife used it for a while before I took it 
over for the afternoon football games.  I'm guessing when I started using 
it, the battery level may have been at around 98%.  I had the unit running 
non-stop for 4 hours, I made no adjustments in settings to conserve 
battery life, VO was running.  I checked the battery after 4 hours of 
continuous use, and it was at 88%.  As it ran down about 2 to 3% per 
hour,I'd say this is really outstanding.  The unit was in a locked state, 
so perhaps that helped.


Les

On Dec 21, 2013, at 8:04 AM, Robert Carter nc5rn...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

I am a huge iPhone lover and was rather slow to really come to love the 
iPad.


I am totally blind and like others have said, I spent a lot of time 
wondering whether or not the larger screen really offered the VoiceOver 
user any advantage.


Last year, my employer purchased the iPad 3 for everyone in my department 
who wanted one. I got one and gradually installed some of my favorite 
apps. I discovered that I really enjoyed working with email and safari on 
the larger screen. In mail, for example, all of the mailboxes are listed 
along the left side of the screen. You can simply run your finger down 
the mailbox column and double-tap on the mailbox that you want to open. 
Of course, I can work fine with email on my iPhone but this layout on the 
iPad is nice for both sighted and blind users.


I also found that listening to audio on the ipad's built-in speakers was 
nicer than the iPhone's speaker. Again, I can hear audio just fine on the 
iPhone but given a choice of listening to a book or sports broadcast on 
either, I would choose the iPad.


Also, it is really nice to have two iOS devices so that when the battery 
runs low on one, you can grab the other device and keep on working.


I ended up liking the iPad enough that when the new much faster and 
thinner iPad Air came out, I gave the iPad 3 back to my department and 
purchased the iPad Air.


I do agree that having both an iPhone and an iPad is a luxury. If I could 
only afford one, I would choose the iPhone. Having them both is certainly 
the best of all for me.


Robert Carter

Sent from my iPad


On Dec 21, 2013, at 1:55 AM, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:

We have one of the newer Mini Gen2 models;  and battery seems to be in 
the
negative,  shorter charge time means smaller charge;  certainly not as 
good

as before.  So a bit of a trade-off between charge time and duration of
useage. She still likes it though.

Agree about use of mBraille on it, though I sold my 1st gen Mini in 
favour

of a second 4S phone. I can't see enough for the bigger screen to have
offered anything useful, so let itgo.

Rh.
- Original Message - 
From: Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 11:26 PM
Subject: Re: utility of an iPad as a productivity tool


Personally, I don't think the iPad offers anything the iPhone does not 
in

terms of apps. It has a better battery life, and some people prefer the
interface that some apps (like Mailor Safari) offer, but that's it. Oh, 
if
you use Mbraille, you can type with your fingers straight across the 
screen.
Low vision users often like the larger screen for viewing magnified 
images

or other low-vision apps, but for a blind person that does not matter.

On Dec 19, 2013, at 8:53 PM, Aruni Sharma aruni...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello listers, This is Aruni Sharma from the southern part of the 
globe. I

am teaching in a PG college here in lucknow, India.
I have a question regarding the utility of an Ipad. is it really worth
investing in a ipad if one already has iPhone. In other words, does the
iPad offer any extra benefit as a productive tool over an iphone?

Thanks and regards
Aruni SharmaAsst. prof. JNPG College

Lucknow
Sent from my iPod
Connect with me

utility of an iPad as a productivity tool

2013-12-20 Thread Aruni Sharma
Hello listers, This is Aruni Sharma from the southern part of the globe. I am 
teaching in a PG college here in lucknow, India. 
I have a question regarding the utility of an Ipad. is it really worth 
investing in a ipad if one already has iPhone. In other words, does the iPad 
offer any extra benefit as a productive tool over an iphone?

Thanks and regards 
Aruni SharmaAsst. prof. JNPG College

Lucknow
Sent from my iPod
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2013-12-20 Thread Alex Hall
Personally, I don't think the iPad offers anything the iPhone does not in terms 
of apps. It has a better battery life, and some people prefer the interface 
that some apps (like Mailor Safari) offer, but that's it. Oh, if you use 
Mbraille, you can type with your fingers straight across the screen. Low vision 
users often like the larger screen for viewing magnified images or other 
low-vision apps, but for a blind person that does not matter.
On Dec 19, 2013, at 8:53 PM, Aruni Sharma aruni...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello listers, This is Aruni Sharma from the southern part of the globe. I am 
 teaching in a PG college here in lucknow, India. 
 I have a question regarding the utility of an Ipad. is it really worth 
 investing in a ipad if one already has iPhone. In other words, does the iPad 
 offer any extra benefit as a productive tool over an iphone?
 
 Thanks and regards 
 Aruni SharmaAsst. prof. JNPG College
 
 Lucknow
 Sent from my iPod
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 skype: aruni_sharma
 facebook; arunisharma
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RE: utility of an iPad as a productivity tool

2013-12-20 Thread Joe
For a visually impaired person, perhaps. For a totally blind one, none. I'm
going to post about my experiences to my blog soon, but long story short, I
just recently gave mine away because for me personally, the iPhone and iPad
were redundant. To each his own, but if it's an educational setting with a
limited budget, I wouldn't do it.

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Subject: Re: utility of an iPad as a productivity tool

Personally, I don't think the iPad offers anything the iPhone does not in
terms of apps. It has a better battery life, and some people prefer the
interface that some apps (like Mailor Safari) offer, but that's it. Oh, if
you use Mbraille, you can type with your fingers straight across the screen.
Low vision users often like the larger screen for viewing magnified images
or other low-vision apps, but for a blind person that does not matter.
On Dec 19, 2013, at 8:53 PM, Aruni Sharma aruni...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello listers, This is Aruni Sharma from the southern part of the globe. I
am teaching in a PG college here in lucknow, India. 
 I have a question regarding the utility of an Ipad. is it really worth
investing in a ipad if one already has iPhone. In other words, does the iPad
offer any extra benefit as a productive tool over an iphone?
 
 Thanks and regards 
 Aruni SharmaAsst. prof. JNPG College
 
 Lucknow
 Sent from my iPod
 Connect with me:
 skype: aruni_sharma
 facebook; arunisharma
 twitter: twitter.com/arunisharma
 
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Have a great day,
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