Re: iPhone 6 user's guide in text format

2015-02-08 Thread Charles Rivard
It may offer headings and other features that a text file does not, but it 
is not as accessible to all.  Adobe is difficult to use with a screen 
reader, or needs a lot of modification to be usable.  With a 
straightforward, no frills text file, anyone can read it.


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I beg to differ here. A properly made PDF file is perfectly accessible and 
offers features like headings, links and so on which you don't get with a 
text file. Also, you can't accidently change stuff in it.


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Pity we couldn't put this to Apple accessibility,  all guides and manuals in
.txt, the most accessible format there is.
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AS .pdf files are, quite often, messy to read through, does anyone have, or
know where I can get, a user's guide for the iPhone 6 in text format?
Thanks.

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Re: iPhone 6 user's guide in text format

2015-02-07 Thread Charles Rivard

Why can't we?

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Pity we couldn't put this to Apple accessibility,  all guides and manuals in
.txt, the most accessible format there is.
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From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com

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AS .pdf files are, quite often, messy to read through, does anyone have, or
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Thanks.

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Re: iPhone 6 user's guide in text format

2015-02-07 Thread Christopher Chaltain
You're right about most PDF files. I'm not sure if you've checked out 
the user's guide for the iPhone 6 yet or not. I've had no trouble 
reading through it in iBooks on my iPhone.


On 02/07/2015 10:17 AM, Charles Rivard wrote:

AS .pdf files are, quite often, messy to read through, does anyone have,
or know where I can get, a user's guide for the iPhone 6 in text
format?  Thanks.

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Re: iPhone 6 user's guide in text format

2015-02-07 Thread Charles Rivard
That won't work for me, because I do not want to use the iPhone to learn to 
use the iPhone.  That would be like getting the instructions on how to use a 
tape recorder on a tape.


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You're right about most PDF files. I'm not sure if you've checked out
the user's guide for the iPhone 6 yet or not. I've had no trouble
reading through it in iBooks on my iPhone.

On 02/07/2015 10:17 AM, Charles Rivard wrote:

AS .pdf files are, quite often, messy to read through, does anyone have,
or know where I can get, a user's guide for the iPhone 6 in text
format?  Thanks.

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Re: iPhone 6 user's guide in text format

2015-02-07 Thread Andy Baracco
The last several versions of the Adobe Reader had the ability to convert the 
PDF to text.

Andy

From: Charles Rivard 
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Subject: iPhone 6 user's guide in text format
AS .pdf files are, quite often, messy to read through, does anyone have, or 
know where I can get, a user's guide for the iPhone 6 in text format?  Thanks.

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RE: iPhone 6 user's guide in text format

2015-02-07 Thread Richard Turner
I did not find a separate user guide on Apple's manual site for the iPhone 6, 
just the generic iPhone user guide for iOS 8.1.
I opened it in Voice Dream.
Then, exported it to Writer.
Then, Exported it to DropBox as a txt file.
Here is the link to my Public DropBox folder for that txt file:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/41698889/iphone_user_guide.txt
No guarantees about formatting.


HTH,
Richard

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Why can't we?

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Pity we couldn't put this to Apple accessibility,  all guides and manuals in
.txt, the most accessible format there is.
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Subject: iPhone 6 user's guide in text format


AS .pdf files are, quite often, messy to read through, does anyone have, or
know where I can get, a user's guide for the iPhone 6 in text format?
Thanks.

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RE: iPhone 6 user's guide in text format

2015-02-07 Thread Larry Lumpkin
I have found the apple user guides pdf very accessible.


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Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 1:32 PM
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I did not find a separate user guide on Apple's manual site for the iPhone 6, 
just the generic iPhone user guide for iOS 8.1.
I opened it in Voice Dream.
Then, exported it to Writer.
Then, Exported it to DropBox as a txt file.
Here is the link to my Public DropBox folder for that txt file:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/41698889/iphone_user_guide.txt
No guarantees about formatting.


HTH,
Richard

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Charles Rivard
Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2015 10:51 AM
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Why can't we?

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Pity we couldn't put this to Apple accessibility,  all guides and manuals in 
.txt, the most accessible format there is.
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To: visually impaired phone group viphone@googlegroups.com
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Subject: iPhone 6 user's guide in text format


AS .pdf files are, quite often, messy to read through, does anyone have, or
know where I can get, a user's guide for the iPhone 6 in text format?
Thanks.

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RE: iPhone 6 user's guide in text format

2015-02-07 Thread Richard Turner
Yes they are.
They work nicely in iBooks or Voice Dream Reader, but the person wanted a txt 
copy.  It took me all of 3 or 4 minutes to download the PDF into Voice Dream, 
and convert  it to txt using Writer.

So, I figured why not share it for those who choose not to access it in the 
usual way.

I prefer the PDF myself.

Richard

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I have found the apple user guides pdf very accessible.


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I did not find a separate user guide on Apple's manual site for the iPhone 6, 
just the generic iPhone user guide for iOS 8.1.
I opened it in Voice Dream.
Then, exported it to Writer.
Then, Exported it to DropBox as a txt file.
Here is the link to my Public DropBox folder for that txt file:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/41698889/iphone_user_guide.txt
No guarantees about formatting.


HTH,
Richard

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Subject: Re: iPhone 6 user's guide in text format

Why can't we?

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Pity we couldn't put this to Apple accessibility,  all guides and manuals in 
.txt, the most accessible format there is.
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Subject: iPhone 6 user's guide in text format


AS .pdf files are, quite often, messy to read through, does anyone have, or
know where I can get, a user's guide for the iPhone 6 in text format?
Thanks.

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Re: iPhone 6 user's guide in text format

2015-02-07 Thread Charles Rivard
Thanks for this.  I'll be looking through it.  Wow.  Someone actually 
provided what was asked for, rather than stating their preferences!


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I have found the apple user guides pdf very accessible.


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Of Richard Turner

Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 1:32 PM
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Subject: RE: iPhone 6 user's guide in text format

I did not find a separate user guide on Apple's manual site for the iPhone 
6, just the generic iPhone user guide for iOS 8.1.

I opened it in Voice Dream.
Then, exported it to Writer.
Then, Exported it to DropBox as a txt file.
Here is the link to my Public DropBox folder for that txt file:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/41698889/iphone_user_guide.txt
No guarantees about formatting.


HTH,
Richard

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Why can't we?

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Pity we couldn't put this to Apple accessibility,  all guides and manuals in 
.txt, the most accessible format there is.

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From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com
To: visually impaired phone group viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 4:17 PM
Subject: iPhone 6 user's guide in text format


AS .pdf files are, quite often, messy to read through, does anyone have, or
know where I can get, a user's guide for the iPhone 6 in text format?
Thanks.

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Re: iPhone 6 user's guide in text format

2015-02-07 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Yeah, sorry about that. I could have converted the PDF into a text file 
for you, but I didn't think that's what you were looking for. I've found 
that if the original PDF has issues, such as images for buttons and the 
like, then the resulting text file isn't going to be much better. I 
assumed you were looking for an Apple generated text file for the users 
guide. It also didn't seem like from your original message you had any 
trouble getting a PDF file, so I figured you could always dump it into a 
text file yourself.


Your original message made it sound like you were just asuming the PDF 
would be a bad experience and hadn't taken a look at it yourself, so I 
didn't think letting you know that it was pretty good was just stating 
my preference. Remember we're not paid support staff on this list.


On 02/07/2015 02:59 PM, Charles Rivard wrote:

Thanks for this.  I'll be looking through it.  Wow.  Someone actually
provided what was asked for, rather than stating their preferences!

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Subject: RE: iPhone 6 user's guide in text format


I have found the apple user guides pdf very accessible.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 1:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone 6 user's guide in text format

I did not find a separate user guide on Apple's manual site for the
iPhone 6, just the generic iPhone user guide for iOS 8.1.
I opened it in Voice Dream.
Then, exported it to Writer.
Then, Exported it to DropBox as a txt file.
Here is the link to my Public DropBox folder for that txt file:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/41698889/iphone_user_guide.txt
No guarantees about formatting.


HTH,
Richard

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Subject: Re: iPhone 6 user's guide in text format

Why can't we?

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Subject: Re: iPhone 6 user's guide in text format


Pity we couldn't put this to Apple accessibility,  all guides and
manuals in .txt, the most accessible format there is.
- Original Message -
From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com
To: visually impaired phone group viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 4:17 PM
Subject: iPhone 6 user's guide in text format


AS .pdf files are, quite often, messy to read through, does anyone have, or
know where I can get, a user's guide for the iPhone 6 in text format?
Thanks.

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RE: iPhone 6 user's guide in text format

2015-02-07 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I beg to differ here. A properly made PDF file is perfectly accessible and 
offers features like headings, links and so on which you don't get with a text 
file. Also, you can't accidently change stuff in it.

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RobH.
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Pity we couldn't put this to Apple accessibility,  all guides and manuals in 
.txt, the most accessible format there is.
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From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com
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Subject: iPhone 6 user's guide in text format


AS .pdf files are, quite often, messy to read through, does anyone have, or 
know where I can get, a user's guide for the iPhone 6 in text format? 
Thanks.

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Re: iPhone 6 user's guide in text format

2015-02-07 Thread Gmail
Rose, I found that to be true for me as well. especially since I have a 4S. 
I'll have to check that book out at some point. :)


Thanks,
Ari


 On Feb 7, 2015, at 12:55 PM, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote:
 
 You can get it in the iBook’s format, easily readable but a lot of photos. 
  
 Since you are fairly familiar with iPhone the  guide may get you through most 
 everything. 
  
 I also used Kindle to read David Pogue’s book on IOS8 which is more detailed 
 information but he is the one who said you should never have to empty the app 
 switcher, and I have found through experience that at least for Voiceover 
 users, that is an untrue statement.  This is based on my own experience with 
 an overcrowded app switcher, and is not any scientific experiment but, I have 
 found that cleaning mine out, especially if anything is not working right is 
 essential.  Your mileage may vary. 
  
  
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 Charles Rivard
 Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 9:17 AM
 To: visually impaired phone group
 Subject: iPhone 6 user's guide in text format
  
 AS .pdf files are, quite often, messy to read through, does anyone have, or 
 know where I can get, a user's guide for the iPhone 6 in text format?  Thanks.
 
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