RE: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are
Yeah it would be an interesting system. I’m concerned that as a kiwi the price for such a device is going to be way out of the average persons price range, Yet with luck apple will make such a device fully accessible to us with visual disabilities to the point that we could somewhat get away without using caines Oh what a dream I have. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Devin Prater Sent: Wednesday, 4 November 2020 3:56 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are I think they're getting all their AI and features ready for Apple Glass. After all, it'd be really cool to get real-time "image recognition" from apple Glass, maybe paired with the iPhone still, but it'd still be amazing! Devin Prater sent from Gmail. On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 12:14 AM Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: I'm glad I live in New Zealand! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Tuesday, 3 November 2020 4:00 pm To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are This feature doesn't have to just be used while you're walking around. It can be used when you're sitting in a restaurant or standing in a line. Plus, there's just something to be said for getting a new feature like this out into the wild before every scenario has been addressed. Let those who can use it start using it while others figure out how to take advantage of a new innovative feature. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of > Simon A Fogarty > Sent: Monday, November 2, 2020 4:12 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: RE: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away > people are > > Wayne, > > I agree that it's an interesting feature, But do wonder about how best > it will be used by people and I mean all users not just the sight impaired. > > The holding the phone in front of me would be my concern or first > concern, However if you could pair this feature with a device such as > or for example the google glasses or if apple had a device of similar > type, Then I might be more interested in it. > > So a headset like was mentioned with Data from star trek, Pairing > with the iPhone feature for distance, I think would more interest me. > > Just a thought. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of > Wayne Merritt > Sent: Tuesday, 3 November 2020 4:55 am > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away > people are > > To respond to the original post, I think it's an interesting concept > being able to tell where and how far away people are with your phone. > To those concerned about one walking around with their phones out, I > have done this anyway when using the Aira app. One of my colleagues is > very excited about this general ability with the iPhone 12 Pro for the > accessibility benefits. I think it is interesting, however I also > think it is interesting the new iPhone is getting a feature that many > people are not going to use because they're at home due to the virus. > It seems like the iPhone 12 in general has some test features in it > which are not widely available, such as 5G and this new people > detection. I'm going to wait for them to more fully develop in next > year's phone. I would be interested to hear any podcasts from any > brave soul who has purchase the iPhone 12 Pro and is willing to demonstrate > the new people detection feature. > > Wayne Merritt > > On 10/31/20, h.begum99 via VIPhone > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote: > > That would be great, wouldn’t it? I want his visor as well!!! > > > > > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf > Of > > Sieghard Weitzel > > Sent: 31 October 2020 05:32 > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > > Subject: RE: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away > > people are > > > > > > > > Forget it, I want at least Geordi La Forge's visor if not his ocular > > prosthetics, a silly iPhone 12 Pro won't cut it. > > > >
Re: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are
I think they're getting all their AI and features ready for Apple Glass. After all, it'd be really cool to get real-time "image recognition" from apple Glass, maybe paired with the iPhone still, but it'd still be amazing! Devin Prater sent from Gmail. On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 12:14 AM Simon A Fogarty wrote: > I'm glad I live in New Zealand! > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Christopher Chaltain > Sent: Tuesday, 3 November 2020 4:00 pm > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away > people are > > This feature doesn't have to just be used while you're walking around. It > can be used when you're sitting in a restaurant or standing in a line. > Plus, there's just something to be said for getting a new feature like this > out into the wild before every scenario has been addressed. Let those who > can use it start using it while others figure out how to take advantage of > a new innovative feature. > > -- > Christopher (AKA CJ) > Chaltain at Gmail > > > -Original Message- > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > > Simon A Fogarty > > Sent: Monday, November 2, 2020 4:12 PM > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > > Subject: RE: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away > > people are > > > > Wayne, > > > > I agree that it's an interesting feature, But do wonder about how best > > it will be used by people and I mean all users not just the sight > impaired. > > > > The holding the phone in front of me would be my concern or first > > concern, However if you could pair this feature with a device such as > > or for example the google glasses or if apple had a device of similar > > type, Then I might be more interested in it. > > > > So a headset like was mentioned with Data from star trek, Pairing > > with the iPhone feature for distance, I think would more interest me. > > > > Just a thought. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > > Wayne Merritt > > Sent: Tuesday, 3 November 2020 4:55 am > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > > Subject: Re: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away > > people are > > > > To respond to the original post, I think it's an interesting concept > > being able to tell where and how far away people are with your phone. > > To those concerned about one walking around with their phones out, I > > have done this anyway when using the Aira app. One of my colleagues is > > very excited about this general ability with the iPhone 12 Pro for the > > accessibility benefits. I think it is interesting, however I also > > think it is interesting the new iPhone is getting a feature that many > > people are not going to use because they're at home due to the virus. > > It seems like the iPhone 12 in general has some test features in it > > which are not widely available, such as 5G and this new people > > detection. I'm going to wait for them to more fully develop in next > > year's phone. I would be interested to hear any podcasts from any > > brave soul who has purchase the iPhone 12 Pro and is willing to > demonstrate the new people detection feature. > > > > Wayne Merritt > > > > On 10/31/20, h.begum99 via VIPhone wrote: > > > That would be great, wouldn’t it? I want his visor as well!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf > > Of > > > Sieghard Weitzel > > > Sent: 31 October 2020 05:32 > > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > > > Subject: RE: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away > > > people are > > > > > > > > > > > > Forget it, I want at least Geordi La Forge's visor if not his ocular > > > prosthetics, a silly iPhone 12 Pro won't cut it. > > > > > > And for those who are not Star Trek fans, Geordi is one of the main > > > characters in Start Trek The Next Generation, he was blind from > > > birth, but became Chief Engineer on the Enterprise under Captain > Jean-Luc Picard. > > > > > > > > > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > > > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On > > > Behalf Of karuna Chopra > > > Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 10:22 PM > > > To: ViPhone > > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > > > > Subject: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away > &g
RE: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are
I'm glad I live in New Zealand! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Tuesday, 3 November 2020 4:00 pm To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are This feature doesn't have to just be used while you're walking around. It can be used when you're sitting in a restaurant or standing in a line. Plus, there's just something to be said for getting a new feature like this out into the wild before every scenario has been addressed. Let those who can use it start using it while others figure out how to take advantage of a new innovative feature. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Simon A Fogarty > Sent: Monday, November 2, 2020 4:12 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away > people are > > Wayne, > > I agree that it's an interesting feature, But do wonder about how best > it will be used by people and I mean all users not just the sight impaired. > > The holding the phone in front of me would be my concern or first > concern, However if you could pair this feature with a device such as > or for example the google glasses or if apple had a device of similar > type, Then I might be more interested in it. > > So a headset like was mentioned with Data from star trek, Pairing > with the iPhone feature for distance, I think would more interest me. > > Just a thought. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Wayne Merritt > Sent: Tuesday, 3 November 2020 4:55 am > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away > people are > > To respond to the original post, I think it's an interesting concept > being able to tell where and how far away people are with your phone. > To those concerned about one walking around with their phones out, I > have done this anyway when using the Aira app. One of my colleagues is > very excited about this general ability with the iPhone 12 Pro for the > accessibility benefits. I think it is interesting, however I also > think it is interesting the new iPhone is getting a feature that many > people are not going to use because they're at home due to the virus. > It seems like the iPhone 12 in general has some test features in it > which are not widely available, such as 5G and this new people > detection. I'm going to wait for them to more fully develop in next > year's phone. I would be interested to hear any podcasts from any > brave soul who has purchase the iPhone 12 Pro and is willing to demonstrate > the new people detection feature. > > Wayne Merritt > > On 10/31/20, h.begum99 via VIPhone wrote: > > That would be great, wouldn’t it? I want his visor as well!!! > > > > > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf > Of > > Sieghard Weitzel > > Sent: 31 October 2020 05:32 > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > > Subject: RE: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away > > people are > > > > > > > > Forget it, I want at least Geordi La Forge's visor if not his ocular > > prosthetics, a silly iPhone 12 Pro won't cut it. > > > > And for those who are not Star Trek fans, Geordi is one of the main > > characters in Start Trek The Next Generation, he was blind from > > birth, but became Chief Engineer on the Enterprise under Captain Jean-Luc > > Picard. > > > > > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On > > Behalf Of karuna Chopra > > Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 10:22 PM > > To: ViPhone > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > > > Subject: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away > > people are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi! This sounds quite promising! What is everybody’s view on its > > practical use for us? > > > > > > > > The lidar in the iPhone 12 Pro shows up in this infrared video. Each > > dot reports back the precise distance of what it reflects off of. > > > > First, it tells the user whether there are people in view at all. If > > someone is there, it will then say how far away the closest person > > is in feet or meters, updating regularly as they approach or move > > further away. The sound corresponds in stereo to the direction the > > person is in the > camera’s view. > > > > Seco
RE: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are
This feature doesn't have to just be used while you're walking around. It can be used when you're sitting in a restaurant or standing in a line. Plus, there's just something to be said for getting a new feature like this out into the wild before every scenario has been addressed. Let those who can use it start using it while others figure out how to take advantage of a new innovative feature. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf > Of Simon A Fogarty > Sent: Monday, November 2, 2020 4:12 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people > are > > Wayne, > > I agree that it's an interesting feature, But do wonder about how best it > will be > used by people and I mean all users not just the sight impaired. > > The holding the phone in front of me would be my concern or first concern, > However if you could pair this feature with a device such as or for example > the > google glasses or if apple had a device of similar type, Then I might be more > interested in it. > > So a headset like was mentioned with Data from star trek, Pairing with the > iPhone feature for distance, I think would more interest me. > > Just a thought. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf > Of Wayne Merritt > Sent: Tuesday, 3 November 2020 4:55 am > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people > are > > To respond to the original post, I think it's an interesting concept being > able to > tell where and how far away people are with your phone. > To those concerned about one walking around with their phones out, I have > done this anyway when using the Aira app. One of my colleagues is very excited > about this general ability with the iPhone 12 Pro for the accessibility > benefits. I > think it is interesting, however I also think it is interesting the new > iPhone is > getting a feature that many people are not going to use because they're at > home due to the virus. > It seems like the iPhone 12 in general has some test features in it which are > not > widely available, such as 5G and this new people detection. I'm going to wait > for > them to more fully develop in next year's phone. I would be interested to hear > any podcasts from any brave soul who has purchase the iPhone 12 Pro and is > willing to demonstrate the new people detection feature. > > Wayne Merritt > > On 10/31/20, h.begum99 via VIPhone wrote: > > That would be great, wouldn’t it? I want his visor as well!!! > > > > > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf > Of > > Sieghard Weitzel > > Sent: 31 October 2020 05:32 > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > > Subject: RE: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away > > people are > > > > > > > > Forget it, I want at least Geordi La Forge's visor if not his ocular > > prosthetics, a silly iPhone 12 Pro won't cut it. > > > > And for those who are not Star Trek fans, Geordi is one of the main > > characters in Start Trek The Next Generation, he was blind from birth, > > but became Chief Engineer on the Enterprise under Captain Jean-Luc Picard. > > > > > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On > > Behalf Of karuna Chopra > > Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 10:22 PM > > To: ViPhone > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > > > Subject: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away > > people are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi! This sounds quite promising! What is everybody’s view on its > > practical use for us? > > > > > > > > The lidar in the iPhone 12 Pro shows up in this infrared video. Each > > dot reports back the precise distance of what it reflects off of. > > > > First, it tells the user whether there are people in view at all. If > > someone is there, it will then say how far away the closest person is > > in feet or meters, updating regularly as they approach or move further > > away. The sound corresponds in stereo to the direction the person is in the > camera’s view. > > > > Second, it allows the user to set tones corresponding to certain distances. > > For example, if they set the distance at six feet, they’ll hear one > > tone if a person is more than six feet away, another if they’re inside that > range. > > After all, not everyone wan
RE: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are
Wayne, I agree that it's an interesting feature, But do wonder about how best it will be used by people and I mean all users not just the sight impaired. The holding the phone in front of me would be my concern or first concern, However if you could pair this feature with a device such as or for example the google glasses or if apple had a device of similar type, Then I might be more interested in it. So a headset like was mentioned with Data from star trek, Pairing with the iPhone feature for distance, I think would more interest me. Just a thought. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Wayne Merritt Sent: Tuesday, 3 November 2020 4:55 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are To respond to the original post, I think it's an interesting concept being able to tell where and how far away people are with your phone. To those concerned about one walking around with their phones out, I have done this anyway when using the Aira app. One of my colleagues is very excited about this general ability with the iPhone 12 Pro for the accessibility benefits. I think it is interesting, however I also think it is interesting the new iPhone is getting a feature that many people are not going to use because they're at home due to the virus. It seems like the iPhone 12 in general has some test features in it which are not widely available, such as 5G and this new people detection. I'm going to wait for them to more fully develop in next year's phone. I would be interested to hear any podcasts from any brave soul who has purchase the iPhone 12 Pro and is willing to demonstrate the new people detection feature. Wayne Merritt On 10/31/20, h.begum99 via VIPhone wrote: > That would be great, wouldn’t it? I want his visor as well!!! > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: 31 October 2020 05:32 > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away > people are > > > > Forget it, I want at least Geordi La Forge's visor if not his ocular > prosthetics, a silly iPhone 12 Pro won't cut it. > > And for those who are not Star Trek fans, Geordi is one of the main > characters in Start Trek The Next Generation, he was blind from birth, > but became Chief Engineer on the Enterprise under Captain Jean-Luc Picard. > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On > Behalf Of karuna Chopra > Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 10:22 PM > To: ViPhone <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > > Subject: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away > people are > > > > > > > > Hi! This sounds quite promising! What is everybody’s view on its > practical use for us? > > > > The lidar in the iPhone 12 Pro shows up in this infrared video. Each > dot reports back the precise distance of what it reflects off of. > > First, it tells the user whether there are people in view at all. If > someone is there, it will then say how far away the closest person is > in feet or meters, updating regularly as they approach or move further > away. The sound corresponds in stereo to the direction the person is in the > camera’s view. > > Second, it allows the user to set tones corresponding to certain distances. > For example, if they set the distance at six feet, they’ll hear one > tone if a person is more than six feet away, another if they’re inside that > range. > After all, not everyone wants a constant feed of exact distances if > all they care about is staying two paces away. > > The third feature, perhaps extra useful for folks who have both visual > and hearing impairments, is a haptic pulse that goes faster as a > person gets closer. > > Last is a visual feature for people who need a little help discerning > the world around them, an arrow that points to the detected person on > the screen. Blindness is a spectrum, after all, and any number of > vision problems could make a person want a bit of help in that regard. > > > > > > > > Read the full article here > > https://techcrunch.com/2020/10/30/iphones-can-now-tell-blind-users-whe > re-and-how-far-away-people-are/ > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact > the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk
Re: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are
To respond to the original post, I think it's an interesting concept being able to tell where and how far away people are with your phone. To those concerned about one walking around with their phones out, I have done this anyway when using the Aira app. One of my colleagues is very excited about this general ability with the iPhone 12 Pro for the accessibility benefits. I think it is interesting, however I also think it is interesting the new iPhone is getting a feature that many people are not going to use because they're at home due to the virus. It seems like the iPhone 12 in general has some test features in it which are not widely available, such as 5G and this new people detection. I'm going to wait for them to more fully develop in next year's phone. I would be interested to hear any podcasts from any brave soul who has purchase the iPhone 12 Pro and is willing to demonstrate the new people detection feature. Wayne Merritt On 10/31/20, h.begum99 via VIPhone wrote: > That would be great, wouldn’t it? I want his visor as well!!! > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: 31 October 2020 05:32 > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people > are > > > > Forget it, I want at least Geordi La Forge's visor if not his ocular > prosthetics, a silly iPhone 12 Pro won't cut it. > > And for those who are not Star Trek fans, Geordi is one of the main > characters in Start Trek The Next Generation, he was blind from birth, but > became Chief Engineer on the Enterprise under Captain Jean-Luc Picard. > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of > karuna Chopra > Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 10:22 PM > To: ViPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > > Subject: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are > > > > > > > > Hi! This sounds quite promising! What is everybody’s view on its practical > use for us? > > > > The lidar in the iPhone 12 Pro shows up in this infrared video. Each dot > reports back the precise distance of what it reflects off of. > > First, it tells the user whether there are people in view at all. If someone > is there, it will then say how far away the closest person is in feet or > meters, updating regularly as they approach or move further away. The sound > corresponds in stereo to the direction the person is in the camera’s view. > > Second, it allows the user to set tones corresponding to certain distances. > For example, if they set the distance at six feet, they’ll hear one tone if > a person is more than six feet away, another if they’re inside that range. > After all, not everyone wants a constant feed of exact distances if all they > care about is staying two paces away. > > The third feature, perhaps extra useful for folks who have both visual and > hearing impairments, is a haptic pulse that goes faster as a person gets > closer. > > Last is a visual feature for people who need a little help discerning the > world around them, an arrow that points to the detected person on the > screen. Blindness is a spectrum, after all, and any number of vision > problems could make a person want a bit of help in that regard. > > > > > > > > Read the full article here > > https://techcrunch.com/2020/10/30/iphones-can-now-tell-blind-users-where-and-how-far-away-people-are/ > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you > can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/FEFFE85D-D3FB-4DAA-B6B0-C49C477F9067%40chopra.us > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/FEFFE85D-D3FB-4DAA-B6B0-C49C477F9067%40chopra.us?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > -- > The f
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That would be great, wouldn’t it? I want his visor as well!!! From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: 31 October 2020 05:32 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are Forget it, I want at least Geordi La Forge's visor if not his ocular prosthetics, a silly iPhone 12 Pro won't cut it. And for those who are not Star Trek fans, Geordi is one of the main characters in Start Trek The Next Generation, he was blind from birth, but became Chief Engineer on the Enterprise under Captain Jean-Luc Picard. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of karuna Chopra Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 10:22 PM To: ViPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are Hi! This sounds quite promising! What is everybody’s view on its practical use for us? The lidar in the iPhone 12 Pro shows up in this infrared video. Each dot reports back the precise distance of what it reflects off of. First, it tells the user whether there are people in view at all. If someone is there, it will then say how far away the closest person is in feet or meters, updating regularly as they approach or move further away. The sound corresponds in stereo to the direction the person is in the camera’s view. Second, it allows the user to set tones corresponding to certain distances. For example, if they set the distance at six feet, they’ll hear one tone if a person is more than six feet away, another if they’re inside that range. After all, not everyone wants a constant feed of exact distances if all they care about is staying two paces away. The third feature, perhaps extra useful for folks who have both visual and hearing impairments, is a haptic pulse that goes faster as a person gets closer. Last is a visual feature for people who need a little help discerning the world around them, an arrow that points to the detected person on the screen. Blindness is a spectrum, after all, and any number of vision problems could make a person want a bit of help in that regard. Read the full article here https://techcrunch.com/2020/10/30/iphones-can-now-tell-blind-users-where-and-how-far-away-people-are/ -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/FEFFE85D-D3FB-4DAA-B6B0-C49C477F9067%40chopra.us <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/FEFFE85D-D3FB-4DAA-B6B0-C49C477F9067%40chopra.us?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR06MB3135D927C85F90ADD761ED9AC7120%40MWHPR06MB3135.namprd06.prod.outlook.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR06MB3135D927C85F90ADD761ED9AC7120%40MWHPR06MB3135.namprd06.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this
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Hello All, To be honest, I have not been following this thread but I have received some off-list comments alerting me to the fact that it has gone off-point. So, let’s keep in mind that this forum is to discuss Apple-related technology and not social engineering. Thanks to those who contacted us, off-list. I will monitor this thread more closely but trust that everyone will stay on point and refrain from making general social commentary.. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 11:40 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are I find this to be a very dangerous post. 8 million people in the US have contracted COVID-19 and over 200,000 people have died from it. Both these numbers far exceed any number of people that have been assaulted by someone rioting. You don’t need to stop living your life, but when you did get out, for your health and the health of the people around you, please take simple and obvious precautions, e.g. socially distance, stay outside as much as possible, wear a mask, wash your hands, get a flu shot and so on. I’m not sure how useful this app would be, for the reasons as others have already posted, but the usefulness isn’t in using it when walking around to keep from bumping into people, since this isn’t how COVID-19 is most commonly spread. The usefulness is when standing or sitting with people around you. You can use this app to make sure people are standing and sitting more than six feet away from you. If someone is closer then six feet, and you’re worried about either their safety or yours, you can move to make it harder for the COVID-19 carrying droplets to span the distance. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of CrazyEyez Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 7:43 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are Honestly, I'm not going to walk around with my phone in my left hand and my cane in the other. How am I to carry stuff? Only way this could maybe work is if they had this in glasses, or if there was a chest rig for your phone. Also, You're more likely to get beat up by an american rioter than you are to contracting the virus by bumping into someone. Unless you kiss the hell out of them as an apology, you're fine. Continue on living your lives. Don't worry about the virus or you will die of stress before the flu can get you! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 31, 2020, at 8:34 AM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via VIPhone wrote: These days, it's dangerous to walk into someone, even if they are attractive. They could give you the virus, or they could be afraid you would give it to them, and that could be unpleasant. I too would love to have his visor, but we may have to look at the tech that's out there for the time being. I wonder if this could help us with regard to staying distanced from people. Kristeen On Oct 31, 2020, at 3:24 AM, Simon A Fogarty wrote: I’m starting to wonder if the world is just going crazy or if it’s me losing the plot. I don’t see myself walking around with a phone in front of me so I can tell where the closest person is, If I walk in to someone, I just hope she is attractive, Smart and holds a good conversation and is not old enough to be my mother or young enough to be my daughter (if I had a kid). Otherwise People should get out of my way! From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of karuna Chopra Sent: Saturday, 31 October 2020 6:22 pm To: ViPhone Subject: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are Hi! This sounds quite promising! What is everybody’s view on its practical use for us? The lidar in the iPhone 12 Pro shows up in this infrared video. Each dot reports back the precise distance of what it reflects off of. First, it tells the user whether there are people in view at all. If someone is there, it will then say how far away the closest person is in feet or meters, updating regularly as they approach or move further away. The sound corresponds in stereo to the direction the person is in the camera’s view. Second, it allows the user to set tones corresponding to certain distances. For example, if they set the distance at six feet, they’ll hear one tone if a person is more than six feet away, another if they’re inside that range. After all, not everyone wants a constant feed of exact distances if all they care about is staying two paces away. The third feature, perhaps extra useful for folks who have both visual and hearing impairments, is a haptic pulse that goes faster as a person gets closer. Last is a visual feature for people who need a little help discerning the world around them, an arrow that points to the detected person on the screen. Blindness is a spectrum, after all
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Hi Michael, Correct but one note, The flue shot can not help with covid19 protection, But it reduces your chances of catching the flue strain of this year, From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Michael Irons Sent: Sunday, 1 November 2020 10:21 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are Hello everyone I know that at present, we don’t have the technology in place that can actually tell us on the phone how far away we are from other people. I did take the basic precautions when I do go out. I have gotten the flu shot. Just wanted y’all to know that I am doing what I can recently do to try and stay safe. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 31, 2020, at 1:39 PM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>> wrote: I find this to be a very dangerous post. 8 million people in the US have contracted COVID-19 and over 200,000 people have died from it. Both these numbers far exceed any number of people that have been assaulted by someone rioting. You don’t need to stop living your life, but when you did get out, for your health and the health of the people around you, please take simple and obvious precautions, e.g. socially distance, stay outside as much as possible, wear a mask, wash your hands, get a flu shot and so on. I’m not sure how useful this app would be, for the reasons as others have already posted, but the usefulness isn’t in using it when walking around to keep from bumping into people, since this isn’t how COVID-19 is most commonly spread. The usefulness is when standing or sitting with people around you. You can use this app to make sure people are standing and sitting more than six feet away from you. If someone is closer then six feet, and you’re worried about either their safety or yours, you can move to make it harder for the COVID-19 carrying droplets to span the distance. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CrazyEyez Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 7:43 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are Honestly, I'm not going to walk around with my phone in my left hand and my cane in the other. How am I to carry stuff? Only way this could maybe work is if they had this in glasses, or if there was a chest rig for your phone. Also, You're more likely to get beat up by an american rioter than you are to contracting the virus by bumping into someone. Unless you kiss the hell out of them as an apology, you're fine. Continue on living your lives. Don't worry about the virus or you will die of stress before the flu can get you! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 31, 2020, at 8:34 AM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote: These days, it's dangerous to walk into someone, even if they are attractive. They could give you the virus, or they could be afraid you would give it to them, and that could be unpleasant. I too would love to have his visor, but we may have to look at the tech that's out there for the time being. I wonder if this could help us with regard to staying distanced from people. Kristeen On Oct 31, 2020, at 3:24 AM, Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: I’m starting to wonder if the world is just going crazy or if it’s me losing the plot. I don’t see myself walking around with a phone in front of me so I can tell where the closest person is, If I walk in to someone, I just hope she is attractive, Smart and holds a good conversation and is not old enough to be my mother or young enough to be my daughter (if I had a kid). Otherwise People should get out of my way! From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of karuna Chopra Sent: Saturday, 31 October 2020 6:22 pm To: ViPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Subject: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are Hi! This sounds quite promising! What is everybody’s view on its practical use for us? The lidar in the iPhone 12 Pro shows up in this infrared video. Each dot reports back the precise distance of what it reflects off of. First, it tells the user whether there are people in view at all. If someone is there, it will then say how far away the closest person is in feet or meters, updating regularly as they approach or move further away. The sound corresponds in stereo to the direction the person is in the camera’s view. Second, it allows the user to set tones corresponding to certain distances. For example, if they set the distance at six feet, they’ll hear one tone if a person is more than six feet away, another if they’re inside that range. After all, not everyone wants a constant feed of exact dista
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Sorry why is the post dangerous? The app on the phone is not going to stop covid 19 from spreading, What will stop it is sensible interaction by members of the public Social distancing, And better information provided by the people that run the usA, From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Sunday, 1 November 2020 7:40 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are I find this to be a very dangerous post. 8 million people in the US have contracted COVID-19 and over 200,000 people have died from it. Both these numbers far exceed any number of people that have been assaulted by someone rioting. You don’t need to stop living your life, but when you did get out, for your health and the health of the people around you, please take simple and obvious precautions, e.g. socially distance, stay outside as much as possible, wear a mask, wash your hands, get a flu shot and so on. I’m not sure how useful this app would be, for the reasons as others have already posted, but the usefulness isn’t in using it when walking around to keep from bumping into people, since this isn’t how COVID-19 is most commonly spread. The usefulness is when standing or sitting with people around you. You can use this app to make sure people are standing and sitting more than six feet away from you. If someone is closer then six feet, and you’re worried about either their safety or yours, you can move to make it harder for the COVID-19 carrying droplets to span the distance. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CrazyEyez Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 7:43 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are Honestly, I'm not going to walk around with my phone in my left hand and my cane in the other. How am I to carry stuff? Only way this could maybe work is if they had this in glasses, or if there was a chest rig for your phone. Also, You're more likely to get beat up by an american rioter than you are to contracting the virus by bumping into someone. Unless you kiss the hell out of them as an apology, you're fine. Continue on living your lives. Don't worry about the virus or you will die of stress before the flu can get you! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 31, 2020, at 8:34 AM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote: These days, it's dangerous to walk into someone, even if they are attractive. They could give you the virus, or they could be afraid you would give it to them, and that could be unpleasant. I too would love to have his visor, but we may have to look at the tech that's out there for the time being. I wonder if this could help us with regard to staying distanced from people. Kristeen On Oct 31, 2020, at 3:24 AM, Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: I’m starting to wonder if the world is just going crazy or if it’s me losing the plot. I don’t see myself walking around with a phone in front of me so I can tell where the closest person is, If I walk in to someone, I just hope she is attractive, Smart and holds a good conversation and is not old enough to be my mother or young enough to be my daughter (if I had a kid). Otherwise People should get out of my way! From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of karuna Chopra Sent: Saturday, 31 October 2020 6:22 pm To: ViPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Subject: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are Hi! This sounds quite promising! What is everybody’s view on its practical use for us? The lidar in the iPhone 12 Pro shows up in this infrared video. Each dot reports back the precise distance of what it reflects off of. First, it tells the user whether there are people in view at all. If someone is there, it will then say how far away the closest person is in feet or meters, updating regularly as they approach or move further away. The sound corresponds in stereo to the direction the person is in the camera’s view. Second, it allows the user to set tones corresponding to certain distances. For example, if they set the distance at six feet, they’ll hear one tone if a person is more than six feet away, another if they’re inside that range. After all, not everyone wants a constant feed of exact distances if all they care about is staying two paces away. The third feature, perhaps extra useful for folks who have both visual and hearing impairments, is a haptic pulse that goes faster as a person gets closer. Last is a visual feature for people who need a little help discerning the world around them, an arrow that points to the detected perso
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what about super gluing your phone to your forehead so it works like a go pro camera, From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of CrazyEyez Sent: Sunday, 1 November 2020 1:43 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are Honestly, I'm not going to walk around with my phone in my left hand and my cane in the other. How am I to carry stuff? Only way this could maybe work is if they had this in glasses, or if there was a chest rig for your phone. Also, You're more likely to get beat up by an american rioter than you are to contracting the virus by bumping into someone. Unless you kiss the hell out of them as an apology, you're fine. Continue on living your lives. Don't worry about the virus or you will die of stress before the flu can get you! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 31, 2020, at 8:34 AM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote: These days, it's dangerous to walk into someone, even if they are attractive. They could give you the virus, or they could be afraid you would give it to them, and that could be unpleasant. I too would love to have his visor, but we may have to look at the tech that's out there for the time being. I wonder if this could help us with regard to staying distanced from people. Kristeen On Oct 31, 2020, at 3:24 AM, Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: I’m starting to wonder if the world is just going crazy or if it’s me losing the plot. I don’t see myself walking around with a phone in front of me so I can tell where the closest person is, If I walk in to someone, I just hope she is attractive, Smart and holds a good conversation and is not old enough to be my mother or young enough to be my daughter (if I had a kid). Otherwise People should get out of my way! From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of karuna Chopra Sent: Saturday, 31 October 2020 6:22 pm To: ViPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Subject: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are Hi! This sounds quite promising! What is everybody’s view on its practical use for us? The lidar in the iPhone 12 Pro shows up in this infrared video. Each dot reports back the precise distance of what it reflects off of. First, it tells the user whether there are people in view at all. If someone is there, it will then say how far away the closest person is in feet or meters, updating regularly as they approach or move further away. The sound corresponds in stereo to the direction the person is in the camera’s view. Second, it allows the user to set tones corresponding to certain distances. For example, if they set the distance at six feet, they’ll hear one tone if a person is more than six feet away, another if they’re inside that range. After all, not everyone wants a constant feed of exact distances if all they care about is staying two paces away. The third feature, perhaps extra useful for folks who have both visual and hearing impairments, is a haptic pulse that goes faster as a person gets closer. Last is a visual feature for people who need a little help discerning the world around them, an arrow that points to the detected person on the screen. Blindness is a spectrum, after all, and any number of vision problems could make a person want a bit of help in that regard. Read the full article here https://techcrunch.com/2020/10/30/iphones-can-now-tell-blind-users-where-and-how-far-away-people-are/ -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/FEFFE85D-D3FB-4DAA-B6B0-C49C477F9067%40chopra.us<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/FEFFE85D-D3FB-4DAA-B6B0-C49C477F9067%40chopra.us?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriat
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Sorry which virus? From: 'Kristeen Hughes' via VIPhone Sent: Sunday, 1 November 2020 1:34 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: Kristeen Hughes Subject: Re: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are These days, it's dangerous to walk into someone, even if they are attractive. They could give you the virus, or they could be afraid you would give it to them, and that could be unpleasant. I too would love to have his visor, but we may have to look at the tech that's out there for the time being. I wonder if this could help us with regard to staying distanced from people. Kristeen On Oct 31, 2020, at 3:24 AM, Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: I’m starting to wonder if the world is just going crazy or if it’s me losing the plot. I don’t see myself walking around with a phone in front of me so I can tell where the closest person is, If I walk in to someone, I just hope she is attractive, Smart and holds a good conversation and is not old enough to be my mother or young enough to be my daughter (if I had a kid). Otherwise People should get out of my way! From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of karuna Chopra Sent: Saturday, 31 October 2020 6:22 pm To: ViPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Subject: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are Hi! This sounds quite promising! What is everybody’s view on its practical use for us? The lidar in the iPhone 12 Pro shows up in this infrared video. Each dot reports back the precise distance of what it reflects off of. First, it tells the user whether there are people in view at all. If someone is there, it will then say how far away the closest person is in feet or meters, updating regularly as they approach or move further away. The sound corresponds in stereo to the direction the person is in the camera’s view. Second, it allows the user to set tones corresponding to certain distances. For example, if they set the distance at six feet, they’ll hear one tone if a person is more than six feet away, another if they’re inside that range. After all, not everyone wants a constant feed of exact distances if all they care about is staying two paces away. The third feature, perhaps extra useful for folks who have both visual and hearing impairments, is a haptic pulse that goes faster as a person gets closer. Last is a visual feature for people who need a little help discerning the world around them, an arrow that points to the detected person on the screen. Blindness is a spectrum, after all, and any number of vision problems could make a person want a bit of help in that regard. Read the full article here https://techcrunch.com/2020/10/30/iphones-can-now-tell-blind-users-where-and-how-far-away-people-are/ -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/FEFFE85D-D3FB-4DAA-B6B0-C49C477F9067%40chopra.us<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/FEFFE85D-D3FB-4DAA-B6B0-C49C477F9067%40chopra.us?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>
Re: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are
You probably can't reliably do it from a phone, but I wonder... Has
anyone here tried the WeWalk smart cane attachment? It has all kinds of
sensors on it. I wonder if it works. I sorta wanna get one myself haha.
such a neat concept, and one I'm actually surprised no one came up with
until now. They're even working with Microsoft AI for accessibility
program now. This is gonna be seriously innovative.
On 10/31/2020 5:21 PM, Michael Irons wrote:
Hello everyone I know that at present, we don’t have the technology in
place that can actually tell us on the phone how far away we are from
other people. I did take the basic precautions when I do go out. I
have gotten the flu shot. Just wanted y’all to know that I am doing
what I can recently do to try and stay safe.
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 31, 2020, at 1:39 PM, Christopher Chaltain <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I find this to be a very dangerous post. 8 million people in the US
have contracted COVID-19 and over 200,000 people have died from it.
Both these numbers far exceed any number of people that have been
assaulted by someone rioting. You don’t need to stop living your
life, but when you did get out, for your health and the health of the
people around you, please take simple and obvious precautions, e.g.
socially distance, stay outside as much as possible, wear a mask,
wash your hands, get a flu shot and so on.
I’m not sure how useful this app would be, for the reasons as others
have already posted, but the usefulness isn’t in using it when
walking around to keep from bumping into people, since this isn’t how
COVID-19 is most commonly spread. The usefulness is when standing or
sitting with people around you. You can use this app to make sure
people are standing and sitting more than six feet away from you. If
someone is closer then six feet, and you’re worried about either
their safety or yours, you can move to make it harder for the
COVID-19 carrying droplets to span the distance.
--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail
*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On
Behalf Of *CrazyEyez
*Sent:* Saturday, October 31, 2020 7:43 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* Re: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far
away people are
Honestly, I'm not going to walk around with my phone in my left hand
and my cane in the other.
How am I to carry stuff?
Only way this could maybe work is if they had this in glasses, or if
there was a chest rig for your phone.
Also, You're more likely to get beat up by an american rioter than
you are to contracting the virus by bumping into someone.
Unless you kiss the hell out of them as an apology, you're fine.
Continue on living your lives.
Don't worry about the virus or you will die of stress before the flu
can get you!
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 31, 2020, at 8:34 AM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via VIPhone
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
These days, it's dangerous to walk into someone, even if they
are attractive. They could give you the virus, or they could be
afraid you would give it to them, and that could be unpleasant. I
too would love to have his visor, but we may have to look at the
tech that's out there for the time being. I wonder if this could
help us with regard to staying distanced from people.
Kristeen
On Oct 31, 2020, at 3:24 AM, Simon A Fogarty
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
I’m starting to wonder if the world is just going crazy or if
it’s me losing the plot.
I don’t see myself walking around with a phone in front of me so
I can tell where the closest person is,
If I walk in to someone,
I just hope she is attractive,
Smart and holds a good conversation and is not old enough to be
my mother or young enough to be my daughter (if I had a kid).
Otherwise
People should get out of my way!
*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>*On Behalf Of*karuna Chopra
*Sent:*Saturday, 31 October 2020 6:22 pm
*To:*ViPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
*Subject:*iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away
people are
Hi! This sounds quite promising! What is everybody’s view on its
practical use for us?
The lidar in the iPhone 12 Pro shows up in this infrared video.
Each dot reports back the precise distance of what it reflects
off of.
First, it tells the user whether there are people in view at all.
If someone is there, it will then say how far away the closest
person is in feet or meters, updating regularly as they approach
or move further away. The sound corresponds in stereo to the
direction the person is in the camera’s view.
Second, it allows the
Re: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are
Hello everyone I know that at present, we don’t have the technology in place that can actually tell us on the phone how far away we are from other people. I did take the basic precautions when I do go out. I have gotten the flu shot. Just wanted y’all to know that I am doing what I can recently do to try and stay safe. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 31, 2020, at 1:39 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: > > I find this to be a very dangerous post. 8 million people in the US have > contracted COVID-19 and over 200,000 people have died from it. Both these > numbers far exceed any number of people that have been assaulted by someone > rioting. You don’t need to stop living your life, but when you did get out, > for your health and the health of the people around you, please take simple > and obvious precautions, e.g. socially distance, stay outside as much as > possible, wear a mask, wash your hands, get a flu shot and so on. > > I’m not sure how useful this app would be, for the reasons as others have > already posted, but the usefulness isn’t in using it when walking around to > keep from bumping into people, since this isn’t how COVID-19 is most commonly > spread. The usefulness is when standing or sitting with people around you. > You can use this app to make sure people are standing and sitting more than > six feet away from you. If someone is closer then six feet, and you’re > worried about either their safety or yours, you can move to make it harder > for the COVID-19 carrying droplets to span the distance. > > -- > Christopher (AKA CJ) > Chaltain at Gmail > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > CrazyEyez > Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 7:43 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people > are > > Honestly, I'm not going to walk around with my phone in my left hand and my > cane in the other. > How am I to carry stuff? > Only way this could maybe work is if they had this in glasses, or if there > was a chest rig for your phone. > Also, You're more likely to get beat up by an american rioter than you are to > contracting the virus by bumping into someone. > Unless you kiss the hell out of them as an apology, you're fine. > Continue on living your lives. > Don't worry about the virus or you will die of stress before the flu can get > you! > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Oct 31, 2020, at 8:34 AM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via VIPhone > wrote: > > These days, it's dangerous to walk into someone, even if they are > attractive. They could give you the virus, or they could be afraid you would > give it to them, and that could be unpleasant. I too would love to have his > visor, but we may have to look at the tech that's out there for the time > being. I wonder if this could help us with regard to staying distanced from > people. > > Kristeen > > > On Oct 31, 2020, at 3:24 AM, Simon A Fogarty wrote: > > I’m starting to wonder if the world is just going crazy or if it’s me losing > the plot. > > I don’t see myself walking around with a phone in front of me so I can tell > where the closest person is, > > If I walk in to someone, > I just hope she is attractive, > Smart and holds a good conversation and is not old enough to be my mother or > young enough to be my daughter (if I had a kid). > > Otherwise > People should get out of my way! > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of karuna > Chopra > Sent: Saturday, 31 October 2020 6:22 pm > To: ViPhone > Subject: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are > > > > Hi! This sounds quite promising! What is everybody’s view on its practical > use for us? > > The lidar in the iPhone 12 Pro shows up in this infrared video. Each dot > reports back the precise distance of what it reflects off of. > > First, it tells the user whether there are people in view at all. If someone > is there, it will then say how far away the closest person is in feet or > meters, updating regularly as they approach or move further away. The sound > corresponds in stereo to the direction the person is in the camera’s view. > Second, it allows the user to set tones corresponding to certain distances. > For example, if they set the distance at six feet, they’ll hear one tone if a > person is more than six feet away, another if they’re inside that range. > After all, not everyone wants a constant feed of exact distances if all they > care about is staying two paces away. > The third feature, perhaps extra useful for folks who have both visual and > hearing impairments, is a haptic pulse that goes fas
RE: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are
I agree with CrazyEyez on this one. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 2:40 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are I find this to be a very dangerous post. 8 million people in the US have contracted COVID-19 and over 200,000 people have died from it. Both these numbers far exceed any number of people that have been assaulted by someone rioting. You don’t need to stop living your life, but when you did get out, for your health and the health of the people around you, please take simple and obvious precautions, e.g. socially distance, stay outside as much as possible, wear a mask, wash your hands, get a flu shot and so on. I’m not sure how useful this app would be, for the reasons as others have already posted, but the usefulness isn’t in using it when walking around to keep from bumping into people, since this isn’t how COVID-19 is most commonly spread. The usefulness is when standing or sitting with people around you. You can use this app to make sure people are standing and sitting more than six feet away from you. If someone is closer then six feet, and you’re worried about either their safety or yours, you can move to make it harder for the COVID-19 carrying droplets to span the distance. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of CrazyEyez Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 7:43 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are Honestly, I'm not going to walk around with my phone in my left hand and my cane in the other. How am I to carry stuff? Only way this could maybe work is if they had this in glasses, or if there was a chest rig for your phone. Also, You're more likely to get beat up by an american rioter than you are to contracting the virus by bumping into someone. Unless you kiss the hell out of them as an apology, you're fine. Continue on living your lives. Don't worry about the virus or you will die of stress before the flu can get you! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 31, 2020, at 8:34 AM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote: These days, it's dangerous to walk into someone, even if they are attractive. They could give you the virus, or they could be afraid you would give it to them, and that could be unpleasant. I too would love to have his visor, but we may have to look at the tech that's out there for the time being. I wonder if this could help us with regard to staying distanced from people. Kristeen On Oct 31, 2020, at 3:24 AM, Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> > wrote: I’m starting to wonder if the world is just going crazy or if it’s me losing the plot. I don’t see myself walking around with a phone in front of me so I can tell where the closest person is, If I walk in to someone, I just hope she is attractive, Smart and holds a good conversation and is not old enough to be my mother or young enough to be my daughter (if I had a kid). Otherwise People should get out of my way! From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of karuna Chopra Sent: Saturday, 31 October 2020 6:22 pm To: ViPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are Hi! This sounds quite promising! What is everybody’s view on its practical use for us? The lidar in the iPhone 12 Pro shows up in this infrared video. Each dot reports back the precise distance of what it reflects off of. First, it tells the user whether there are people in view at all. If someone is there, it will then say how far away the closest person is in feet or meters, updating regularly as they approach or move further away. The sound corresponds in stereo to the direction the person is in the camera’s view. Second, it allows the user to set tones corresponding to certain distances. For example, if they set the distance at six feet, they’ll hear one tone if a person is more than six feet away, another if they’re inside that range. After all, not everyone wants a constant feed of exact distances if all they care about is staying two paces away. The third feature, perhaps extra useful for folks who have both visual and hearing impairments, is a haptic pulse that goes faster as a person gets closer. Last is a visual feature for people who need a little help discerning the world around them, an arrow that points to the detected person on the screen. Blindness is a spectrum, after all, and any number of vision problems could make a person want a bit of help
RE: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are
I find this to be a very dangerous post. 8 million people in the US have contracted COVID-19 and over 200,000 people have died from it. Both these numbers far exceed any number of people that have been assaulted by someone rioting. You don’t need to stop living your life, but when you did get out, for your health and the health of the people around you, please take simple and obvious precautions, e.g. socially distance, stay outside as much as possible, wear a mask, wash your hands, get a flu shot and so on. I’m not sure how useful this app would be, for the reasons as others have already posted, but the usefulness isn’t in using it when walking around to keep from bumping into people, since this isn’t how COVID-19 is most commonly spread. The usefulness is when standing or sitting with people around you. You can use this app to make sure people are standing and sitting more than six feet away from you. If someone is closer then six feet, and you’re worried about either their safety or yours, you can move to make it harder for the COVID-19 carrying droplets to span the distance. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of CrazyEyez Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 7:43 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are Honestly, I'm not going to walk around with my phone in my left hand and my cane in the other. How am I to carry stuff? Only way this could maybe work is if they had this in glasses, or if there was a chest rig for your phone. Also, You're more likely to get beat up by an american rioter than you are to contracting the virus by bumping into someone. Unless you kiss the hell out of them as an apology, you're fine. Continue on living your lives. Don't worry about the virus or you will die of stress before the flu can get you! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 31, 2020, at 8:34 AM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote: These days, it's dangerous to walk into someone, even if they are attractive. They could give you the virus, or they could be afraid you would give it to them, and that could be unpleasant. I too would love to have his visor, but we may have to look at the tech that's out there for the time being. I wonder if this could help us with regard to staying distanced from people. Kristeen On Oct 31, 2020, at 3:24 AM, Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> > wrote: I’m starting to wonder if the world is just going crazy or if it’s me losing the plot. I don’t see myself walking around with a phone in front of me so I can tell where the closest person is, If I walk in to someone, I just hope she is attractive, Smart and holds a good conversation and is not old enough to be my mother or young enough to be my daughter (if I had a kid). Otherwise People should get out of my way! From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of karuna Chopra Sent: Saturday, 31 October 2020 6:22 pm To: ViPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are Hi! This sounds quite promising! What is everybody’s view on its practical use for us? The lidar in the iPhone 12 Pro shows up in this infrared video. Each dot reports back the precise distance of what it reflects off of. First, it tells the user whether there are people in view at all. If someone is there, it will then say how far away the closest person is in feet or meters, updating regularly as they approach or move further away. The sound corresponds in stereo to the direction the person is in the camera’s view. Second, it allows the user to set tones corresponding to certain distances. For example, if they set the distance at six feet, they’ll hear one tone if a person is more than six feet away, another if they’re inside that range. After all, not everyone wants a constant feed of exact distances if all they care about is staying two paces away. The third feature, perhaps extra useful for folks who have both visual and hearing impairments, is a haptic pulse that goes faster as a person gets closer. Last is a visual feature for people who need a little help discerning the world around them, an arrow that points to the detected person on the screen. Blindness is a spectrum, after all, and any number of vision problems could make a person want a bit of help in that regard. Read the full article here https://techcrunch.com/2020/10/30/iphones-can-now-tell-blind-users-where-and-how-far-away-people-are/ -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please con
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Who's not a Star trek fan? Maria Campbell lucky1i...@gmail.com All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing. --Edmund Burke On 10/31/2020 1:31 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Forget it, I want at least Geordi La Forge's visor if not his ocular prosthetics, a silly iPhone 12 Pro won't cut it. And for those who are not Star Trek fans, Geordi is one of the main characters in Start Trek The Next Generation, he was blind from birth, but became Chief Engineer on the Enterprise under Captain Jean-Luc Picard. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of karuna Chopra Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 10:22 PM To: ViPhone Subject: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are Hi! This sounds quite promising! What is everybody’s view on its practical use for us? The lidar in the iPhone 12 Pro shows up in this infrared video. Each dot reports back the precise distance of what it reflects off of. First, it tells the user whether there are people in view at all. If someone is there, it will then say how far away the closest person is in feet or meters, updating regularly as they approach or move further away. The sound corresponds in stereo to the direction the person is in the camera’s view. Second, it allows the user to set tones corresponding to certain distances. For example, if they set the distance at six feet, they’ll hear one tone if a person is more than six feet away, another if they’re inside that range. After all, not everyone wants a constant feed of exact distances if all they care about is staying two paces away. The third feature, perhaps extra useful for folks who have both visual and hearing impairments, is a haptic pulse that goes faster as a person gets closer. Last is a visual feature for people who need a little help discerning the world around them, an arrow that points to the detected person on the screen. Blindness is a spectrum, after all, and any number of vision problems could make a person want a bit of help in that regard. Read the full article here https://techcrunch.com/2020/10/30/iphones-can-now-tell-blind-users-where-and-how-far-away-people-are/ -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/FEFFE85D-D3FB-4DAA-B6B0-C49C477F9067%40chopra.us<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/FEFFE85D-D3FB-4DAA-B6B0-C49C477F9067%40chopra.us?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/a09c169d-5130-f1a1-3ef4-257095ea3027%40gmail.com.
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Yes, holding the phone is way difficult. It would have to be a different type of technology. As for the virus, I was thinking more of hoe people react to our running into them, than the other way round. People are turning bizarre in a very big way in the world right now. Kristeen On Oct 31, 2020, at 8:42 AM, CrazyEyez wrote: Honestly, I'm not going to walk around with my phone in my left hand and my cane in the other. How am I to carry stuff? Only way this could maybe work is if they had this in glasses, or if there was a chest rig for your phone. Also, You're more likely to get beat up by an american rioter than you are to contracting the virus by bumping into someone. Unless you kiss the hell out of them as an apology, you're fine. Continue on living your lives. Don't worry about the virus or you will die of stress before the flu can get you! Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 31, 2020, at 8:34 AM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via VIPhone > wrote: > > These days, it's dangerous to walk into someone, even if they are > attractive. They could give you the virus, or they could be afraid you would > give it to them, and that could be unpleasant. I too would love to have his > visor, but we may have to look at the tech that's out there for the time > being. I wonder if this could help us with regard to staying distanced from > people. > > Kristeen > > > On Oct 31, 2020, at 3:24 AM, Simon A Fogarty <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: > > I’m starting to wonder if the world is just going crazy or if it’s me losing > the plot. > > I don’t see myself walking around with a phone in front of me so I can tell > where the closest person is, > > If I walk in to someone, > I just hope she is attractive, > Smart and holds a good conversation and is not old enough to be my mother or > young enough to be my daughter (if I had a kid). > > Otherwise > People should get out of my way! > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of karuna Chopra > Sent: Saturday, 31 October 2020 6:22 pm > To: ViPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> > Subject: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are > > > > Hi! This sounds quite promising! What is everybody’s view on its practical > use for us? > > The lidar in the iPhone 12 Pro shows up in this infrared video. Each dot > reports back the precise distance of what it reflects off of. > > First, it tells the user whether there are people in view at all. If someone > is there, it will then say how far away the closest person is in feet or > meters, updating regularly as they approach or move further away. The sound > corresponds in stereo to the direction the person is in the camera’s view. > > Second, it allows the user to set tones corresponding to certain distances. > For example, if they set the distance at six feet, they’ll hear one tone if a > person is more than six feet away, another if they’re inside that range. > After all, not everyone wants a constant feed of exact distances if all they > care about is staying two paces away. > > The third feature, perhaps extra useful for folks who have both visual and > hearing impairments, is a haptic pulse that goes faster as a person gets > closer. > > Last is a visual feature for people who need a little help discerning the > world around them, an arrow that points to the detected person on the screen. > Blindness is a spectrum, after all, and any number of vision problems could > make a person want a bit of help in that regard. > > > > > Read the full article here > https://techcrunch.com/2020/10/30/iphones-can-now-tell-blind-users-where-and-how-far-away-people-are/ > > <https://techcrunch.com/2020/10/30/iphones-can-now-tell-blind-users-where-and-how-far-away-people-are/> > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you > can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > <http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/> > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhon
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Honestly, I'm not going to walk around with my phone in my left hand and my cane in the other. How am I to carry stuff? Only way this could maybe work is if they had this in glasses, or if there was a chest rig for your phone. Also, You're more likely to get beat up by an american rioter than you are to contracting the virus by bumping into someone. Unless you kiss the hell out of them as an apology, you're fine. Continue on living your lives. Don't worry about the virus or you will die of stress before the flu can get you! Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 31, 2020, at 8:34 AM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via VIPhone > wrote: > > These days, it's dangerous to walk into someone, even if they are > attractive. They could give you the virus, or they could be afraid you would > give it to them, and that could be unpleasant. I too would love to have his > visor, but we may have to look at the tech that's out there for the time > being. I wonder if this could help us with regard to staying distanced from > people. > > Kristeen > > > On Oct 31, 2020, at 3:24 AM, Simon A Fogarty wrote: > > I’m starting to wonder if the world is just going crazy or if it’s me losing > the plot. > > I don’t see myself walking around with a phone in front of me so I can tell > where the closest person is, > > If I walk in to someone, > I just hope she is attractive, > Smart and holds a good conversation and is not old enough to be my mother or > young enough to be my daughter (if I had a kid). > > Otherwise > People should get out of my way! > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of karuna > Chopra > Sent: Saturday, 31 October 2020 6:22 pm > To: ViPhone > Subject: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are > > > > Hi! This sounds quite promising! What is everybody’s view on its practical > use for us? > > The lidar in the iPhone 12 Pro shows up in this infrared video. Each dot > reports back the precise distance of what it reflects off of. > > First, it tells the user whether there are people in view at all. If someone > is there, it will then say how far away the closest person is in feet or > meters, updating regularly as they approach or move further away. The sound > corresponds in stereo to the direction the person is in the camera’s view. > > Second, it allows the user to set tones corresponding to certain distances. > For example, if they set the distance at six feet, they’ll hear one tone if a > person is more than six feet away, another if they’re inside that range. > After all, not everyone wants a constant feed of exact distances if all they > care about is staying two paces away. > > The third feature, perhaps extra useful for folks who have both visual and > hearing impairments, is a haptic pulse that goes faster as a person gets > closer. > > Last is a visual feature for people who need a little help discerning the > world around them, an arrow that points to the detected person on the screen. > Blindness is a spectrum, after all, and any number of vision problems could > make a person want a bit of help in that regard. > > > > > Read the full article here > https://techcrunch.com/2020/10/30/iphones-can-now-tell-blind-users-where-and-how-far-away-people-are/ > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/FEFFE85D-D3FB-4DAA-B6B0-C49C477F9067%40chopra.us. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn
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These days, it's dangerous to walk into someone, even if they are attractive. They could give you the virus, or they could be afraid you would give it to them, and that could be unpleasant. I too would love to have his visor, but we may have to look at the tech that's out there for the time being. I wonder if this could help us with regard to staying distanced from people. Kristeen On Oct 31, 2020, at 3:24 AM, Simon A Fogarty wrote: I’m starting to wonder if the world is just going crazy or if it’s me losing the plot. I don’t see myself walking around with a phone in front of me so I can tell where the closest person is, If I walk in to someone, I just hope she is attractive, Smart and holds a good conversation and is not old enough to be my mother or young enough to be my daughter (if I had a kid). Otherwise People should get out of my way! From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of karuna Chopra Sent: Saturday, 31 October 2020 6:22 pm To: ViPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Subject: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are Hi! This sounds quite promising! What is everybody’s view on its practical use for us? The lidar in the iPhone 12 Pro shows up in this infrared video. Each dot reports back the precise distance of what it reflects off of. First, it tells the user whether there are people in view at all. If someone is there, it will then say how far away the closest person is in feet or meters, updating regularly as they approach or move further away. The sound corresponds in stereo to the direction the person is in the camera’s view. Second, it allows the user to set tones corresponding to certain distances. For example, if they set the distance at six feet, they’ll hear one tone if a person is more than six feet away, another if they’re inside that range. After all, not everyone wants a constant feed of exact distances if all they care about is staying two paces away. The third feature, perhaps extra useful for folks who have both visual and hearing impairments, is a haptic pulse that goes faster as a person gets closer. Last is a visual feature for people who need a little help discerning the world around them, an arrow that points to the detected person on the screen. Blindness is a spectrum, after all, and any number of vision problems could make a person want a bit of help in that regard. Read the full article here https://techcrunch.com/2020/10/30/iphones-can-now-tell-blind-users-where-and-how-far-away-people-are/ <https://techcrunch.com/2020/10/30/iphones-can-now-tell-blind-users-where-and-how-far-away-people-are/> -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ <http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/FEFFE85D-D3FB-4DAA-B6B0-C49C477F9067%40chopra.us <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/FEFFE85D-D3FB-4DAA-B6B0-C49C477F9067%40chopra.us?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ <http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googleg
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And he wore funky glass like things that weren’t glasses but what I think Google glasses should be like. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, 31 October 2020 6:32 pm To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are Forget it, I want at least Geordi La Forge's visor if not his ocular prosthetics, a silly iPhone 12 Pro won't cut it. And for those who are not Star Trek fans, Geordi is one of the main characters in Start Trek The Next Generation, he was blind from birth, but became Chief Engineer on the Enterprise under Captain Jean-Luc Picard. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of karuna Chopra Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 10:22 PM To: ViPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Subject: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are Hi! This sounds quite promising! What is everybody’s view on its practical use for us? The lidar in the iPhone 12 Pro shows up in this infrared video. Each dot reports back the precise distance of what it reflects off of. First, it tells the user whether there are people in view at all. If someone is there, it will then say how far away the closest person is in feet or meters, updating regularly as they approach or move further away. The sound corresponds in stereo to the direction the person is in the camera’s view. Second, it allows the user to set tones corresponding to certain distances. For example, if they set the distance at six feet, they’ll hear one tone if a person is more than six feet away, another if they’re inside that range. After all, not everyone wants a constant feed of exact distances if all they care about is staying two paces away. The third feature, perhaps extra useful for folks who have both visual and hearing impairments, is a haptic pulse that goes faster as a person gets closer. Last is a visual feature for people who need a little help discerning the world around them, an arrow that points to the detected person on the screen. Blindness is a spectrum, after all, and any number of vision problems could make a person want a bit of help in that regard. Read the full article here https://techcrunch.com/2020/10/30/iphones-can-now-tell-blind-users-where-and-how-far-away-people-are/ -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/FEFFE85D-D3FB-4DAA-B6B0-C49C477F9067%40chopra.us<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/FEFFE85D-D3FB-4DAA-B6B0-C49C477F9067%40chopra.us?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR06MB3135D927C85F90ADD761ED9AC7120%40MWHPR06MB3135.namprd06.prod.outlook.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR06MB3135D927C85F90ADD761ED9AC7120%40MWHPR06MB3135.namprd06.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel th
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I’m starting to wonder if the world is just going crazy or if it’s me losing the plot. I don’t see myself walking around with a phone in front of me so I can tell where the closest person is, If I walk in to someone, I just hope she is attractive, Smart and holds a good conversation and is not old enough to be my mother or young enough to be my daughter (if I had a kid). Otherwise People should get out of my way! From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of karuna Chopra Sent: Saturday, 31 October 2020 6:22 pm To: ViPhone Subject: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are Hi! This sounds quite promising! What is everybody’s view on its practical use for us? The lidar in the iPhone 12 Pro shows up in this infrared video. Each dot reports back the precise distance of what it reflects off of. First, it tells the user whether there are people in view at all. If someone is there, it will then say how far away the closest person is in feet or meters, updating regularly as they approach or move further away. The sound corresponds in stereo to the direction the person is in the camera’s view. Second, it allows the user to set tones corresponding to certain distances. For example, if they set the distance at six feet, they’ll hear one tone if a person is more than six feet away, another if they’re inside that range. After all, not everyone wants a constant feed of exact distances if all they care about is staying two paces away. The third feature, perhaps extra useful for folks who have both visual and hearing impairments, is a haptic pulse that goes faster as a person gets closer. Last is a visual feature for people who need a little help discerning the world around them, an arrow that points to the detected person on the screen. Blindness is a spectrum, after all, and any number of vision problems could make a person want a bit of help in that regard. Read the full article here https://techcrunch.com/2020/10/30/iphones-can-now-tell-blind-users-where-and-how-far-away-people-are/ -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/FEFFE85D-D3FB-4DAA-B6B0-C49C477F9067%40chopra.us<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/FEFFE85D-D3FB-4DAA-B6B0-C49C477F9067%40chopra.us?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/SYCPR01MB40486E2C6F65F9EF5D6E1F6C8A120%40SYCPR01MB4048.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com.
RE: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are
Forget it, I want at least Geordi La Forge's visor if not his ocular prosthetics, a silly iPhone 12 Pro won't cut it. And for those who are not Star Trek fans, Geordi is one of the main characters in Start Trek The Next Generation, he was blind from birth, but became Chief Engineer on the Enterprise under Captain Jean-Luc Picard. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of karuna Chopra Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 10:22 PM To: ViPhone Subject: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are Hi! This sounds quite promising! What is everybody’s view on its practical use for us? The lidar in the iPhone 12 Pro shows up in this infrared video. Each dot reports back the precise distance of what it reflects off of. First, it tells the user whether there are people in view at all. If someone is there, it will then say how far away the closest person is in feet or meters, updating regularly as they approach or move further away. The sound corresponds in stereo to the direction the person is in the camera’s view. Second, it allows the user to set tones corresponding to certain distances. For example, if they set the distance at six feet, they’ll hear one tone if a person is more than six feet away, another if they’re inside that range. After all, not everyone wants a constant feed of exact distances if all they care about is staying two paces away. The third feature, perhaps extra useful for folks who have both visual and hearing impairments, is a haptic pulse that goes faster as a person gets closer. Last is a visual feature for people who need a little help discerning the world around them, an arrow that points to the detected person on the screen. Blindness is a spectrum, after all, and any number of vision problems could make a person want a bit of help in that regard. Read the full article here https://techcrunch.com/2020/10/30/iphones-can-now-tell-blind-users-where-and-how-far-away-people-are/ -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/FEFFE85D-D3FB-4DAA-B6B0-C49C477F9067%40chopra.us<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/FEFFE85D-D3FB-4DAA-B6B0-C49C477F9067%40chopra.us?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR06MB3135D927C85F90ADD761ED9AC7120%40MWHPR06MB3135.namprd06.prod.outlook.com.
iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are
Hi! This sounds quite promising! What is everybody’s view on its practical use for us? The lidar in the iPhone 12 Pro shows up in this infrared video. Each dot reports back the precise distance of what it reflects off of. First, it tells the user whether there are people in view at all. If someone is there, it will then say how far away the closest person is in feet or meters, updating regularly as they approach or move further away. The sound corresponds in stereo to the direction the person is in the camera’s view. Second, it allows the user to set tones corresponding to certain distances. For example, if they set the distance at six feet, they’ll hear one tone if a person is more than six feet away, another if they’re inside that range. After all, not everyone wants a constant feed of exact distances if all they care about is staying two paces away. The third feature, perhaps extra useful for folks who have both visual and hearing impairments, is a haptic pulse that goes faster as a person gets closer. Last is a visual feature for people who need a little help discerning the world around them, an arrow that points to the detected person on the screen. Blindness is a spectrum, after all, and any number of vision problems could make a person want a bit of help in that regard. Read the full article here https://techcrunch.com/2020/10/30/iphones-can-now-tell-blind-users-where-and-how-far-away-people-are/ -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/FEFFE85D-D3FB-4DAA-B6B0-C49C477F9067%40chopra.us.
