subject:"iphone 8 or XR\?"

iphone 8 or XR?

2020-03-15 Thread R Van Lant

Hi,
I am currently on an iphone 6S and want to upgrade my phone, as I have noticed 
performance issues since moving to IOS 13 and I want to be able to start using 
the Way Around tags.   With an $80 trade-in value, I'm debating between the 
iphoen which I can get new for $369 from Apple or the iPhone XR for $519.  Is 
the iphone XR a good model?  The main reason I was thinking of spending a bit 
more is to stave off any planned obsolescence of the 8, but my budget would 
prefer the iphone 8.  I can also see that the screen size is a bit bigger on 
the XR at 6.1 inches.   I really rely mainly on VoiceOver, so the screen 
clarity isn't that important, nor is the fancy camera, other than OCR  
capability.  Yeah, battery life is nice, but I've managed fine with my 6S and a 
portable battery pack for the rare occasion I need extra power on the go.  Yes, 
I prefer finger print reader to the idea of face ID, but I'm sure I'd adjust.

With Apple stores closed, I cannot get my hands on samples and the sales guy at 
Verizon was really pushy, trying to shame me out of anything but the newest 
model.  So, hoping a coupld of you smart people wouldn't mind telling me your 
thoughts for budget conscious shoppers.  My biggest fear is getting an iphone 8 
and having similar performance issues to what I have now where, even with four 
bars of cell service, my emails and web pages take super long to load.

Robin





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RE: iphone 8 or XR?

2020-03-15 Thread Dennis Long

The 8 should serve you fine or you could wait until April and see if the iPhone 
9 is released.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 12:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iphone 8 or XR?

Hi,

I am currently on an iphone 6S and want to upgrade my phone, as I have noticed 
performance issues since moving to IOS 13 and I want to be able to start using 
the Way Around tags.   With an $80 trade-in value, I’m debating between the 
iphoen which I can get new for $369 from Apple or the iPhone XR for $519.  Is 
the iphone XR a good model?  The main reason I was thinking of spending a bit 
more is to stave off any planned obsolescence of the 8, but my budget would 
prefer the iphone 8.  I can also see that the screen size is a bit bigger on 
the XR at 6.1 inches.   I really rely mainly on VoiceOver, so the screen 
clarity isn’t that important, nor is the fancy camera, other than OCR  
capability.  Yeah, battery life is nice, but I’ve managed fine with my 6S and a 
portable battery pack for the rare occasion I need extra power on the go.  Yes, 
I prefer finger print reader to the idea of face ID, but I’m sure I’d adjust.  

With Apple stores closed, I cannot get my hands on samples and the sales guy at 
Verizon was really pushy, trying to shame me out of anything but the newest 
model.  So, hoping a coupld of you smart people wouldn’t mind telling me your 
thoughts for budget conscious shoppers.  My biggest fear is getting an iphone 8 
and having similar performance issues to what I have now where, even with four 
bars of cell service, my emails and web pages take super long to load.  

Robin

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RE: iphone 8 or XR?

2020-03-15 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

Always better to go to a newer model if you can afford it and while the iPhone 
8 is a good model, the XR also was a very successful and well-liked phone.
If you are somebody who uses their phone for as long as possible which I assume 
is the case since you still have your 6S, I would say it’s probably worthwhile 
to spend the extra $150 and get the Xr.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2020 10:16 PM
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Subject: RE: iphone 8 or XR?

The 8 should serve you fine or you could wait until April and see if the iPhone 
9 is released.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 12:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iphone 8 or XR?

Hi,
I am currently on an iphone 6S and want to upgrade my phone, as I have noticed 
performance issues since moving to IOS 13 and I want to be able to start using 
the Way Around tags.   With an $80 trade-in value, I’m debating between the 
iphoen which I can get new for $369 from Apple or the iPhone XR for $519.  Is 
the iphone XR a good model?  The main reason I was thinking of spending a bit 
more is to stave off any planned obsolescence of the 8, but my budget would 
prefer the iphone 8.  I can also see that the screen size is a bit bigger on 
the XR at 6.1 inches.   I really rely mainly on VoiceOver, so the screen 
clarity isn’t that important, nor is the fancy camera, other than OCR  
capability.  Yeah, battery life is nice, but I’ve managed fine with my 6S and a 
portable battery pack for the rare occasion I need extra power on the go.  Yes, 
I prefer finger print reader to the idea of face ID, but I’m sure I’d adjust.

With Apple stores closed, I cannot get my hands on samples and the sales guy at 
Verizon was really pushy, trying to shame me out of anything but the newest 
model.  So, hoping a coupld of you smart people wouldn’t mind telling me your 
thoughts for budget conscious shoppers.  My biggest fear is getting an iphone 8 
and having similar performance issues to what I have now where, even with four 
bars of cell service, my emails and web pages take super long to load.

Robin

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Re: iphone 8 or XR?

2020-03-15 Thread Joshua Hendrickson

Also remember that the XR doesn't have the home button.  I have an 8
and really like it.  My emails load just fine and I don't have the
best internet speed.  I know someone who had an XR phone and went back
to the iPhone 8.

On 3/16/20, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Always better to go to a newer model if you can afford it and while the
> iPhone 8 is a good model, the XR also was a very successful and well-liked
> phone.
> If you are somebody who uses their phone for as long as possible which I
> assume is the case since you still have your 6S, I would say it’s probably
> worthwhile to spend the extra $150 and get the Xr.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Dennis Long
> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2020 10:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iphone 8 or XR?
>
> The 8 should serve you fine or you could wait until April and see if the
> iPhone 9 is released.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van
> Lant
> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 12:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iphone 8 or XR?
>
> Hi,
> I am currently on an iphone 6S and want to upgrade my phone, as I have
> noticed performance issues since moving to IOS 13 and I want to be able to
> start using the Way Around tags.   With an $80 trade-in value, I’m debating
> between the iphoen which I can get new for $369 from Apple or the iPhone XR
> for $519.  Is the iphone XR a good model?  The main reason I was thinking of
> spending a bit more is to stave off any planned obsolescence of the 8, but
> my budget would prefer the iphone 8.  I can also see that the screen size is
> a bit bigger on the XR at 6.1 inches.   I really rely mainly on VoiceOver,
> so the screen clarity isn’t that important, nor is the fancy camera, other
> than OCR  capability.  Yeah, battery life is nice, but I’ve managed fine
> with my 6S and a portable battery pack for the rare occasion I need extra
> power on the go.  Yes, I prefer finger print reader to the idea of face ID,
> but I’m sure I’d adjust.
>
> With Apple stores closed, I cannot get my hands on samples and the sales guy
> at Verizon was really pushy, trying to shame me out of anything but the
> newest model.  So, hoping a coupld of you smart people wouldn’t mind telling
> me your thoughts for budget conscious shoppers.  My biggest fear is getting
> an iphone 8 and having similar performance issues to what I have now where,
> even with four bars of cell service, my emails and web pages take super long
> to load.
>
> Robin
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: iphone 8 or XR?

2020-03-16 Thread Simon A Fogarty

For long life coverage,
Go the XR
They are a very similar phone in most ways although the processor in the XR is 
the year later I believe.

But either way both the 8 and the xr should be around / supported for another 
couple of years yet,

And ask your Verizon sales person why you should get the latest when the 8 or 
the XR would be very suitable for a person with a visual impairment

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: Monday, 16 March 2020 5:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iphone 8 or XR?

Hi,
I am currently on an iphone 6S and want to upgrade my phone, as I have noticed 
performance issues since moving to IOS 13 and I want to be able to start using 
the Way Around tags.   With an $80 trade-in value, I’m debating between the 
iphoen which I can get new for $369 from Apple or the iPhone XR for $519.  Is 
the iphone XR a good model?  The main reason I was thinking of spending a bit 
more is to stave off any planned obsolescence of the 8, but my budget would 
prefer the iphone 8.  I can also see that the screen size is a bit bigger on 
the XR at 6.1 inches.   I really rely mainly on VoiceOver, so the screen 
clarity isn’t that important, nor is the fancy camera, other than OCR  
capability.  Yeah, battery life is nice, but I’ve managed fine with my 6S and a 
portable battery pack for the rare occasion I need extra power on the go.  Yes, 
I prefer finger print reader to the idea of face ID, but I’m sure I’d adjust.

With Apple stores closed, I cannot get my hands on samples and the sales guy at 
Verizon was really pushy, trying to shame me out of anything but the newest 
model.  So, hoping a coupld of you smart people wouldn’t mind telling me your 
thoughts for budget conscious shoppers.  My biggest fear is getting an iphone 8 
and having similar performance issues to what I have now where, even with four 
bars of cell service, my emails and web pages take super long to load.

Robin






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Re: iphone 8 or XR?

2020-03-16 Thread PRAMIT BHARGAVA

Hi Robin,

In my personal opinion, if you can wait then wait till the launch for
iphone SE 2. It was suppose to be launched in March but,
due to Corona virus the launch has been delayed but  with in the next month
or so Apple will launch it.

Pramit

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 10:01 AM R Van Lant  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am currently on an iphone 6S and want to upgrade my phone, as I have
> noticed performance issues since moving to IOS 13 and I want to be able to
> start using the Way Around tags.   With an $80 trade-in value, I’m debating
> between the iphoen which I can get new for $369 from Apple or the iPhone XR
> for $519.  Is the iphone XR a good model?  The main reason I was thinking
> of spending a bit more is to stave off any planned obsolescence of the 8,
> but my budget would prefer the iphone 8.  I can also see that the screen
> size is a bit bigger on the XR at 6.1 inches.   I really rely mainly on
> VoiceOver, so the screen clarity isn’t that important, nor is the fancy
> camera, other than OCR  capability.  Yeah, battery life is nice, but I’ve
> managed fine with my 6S and a portable battery pack for the rare occasion I
> need extra power on the go.  Yes, I prefer finger print reader to the idea
> of face ID, but I’m sure I’d adjust.
>
>
>
> With Apple stores closed, I cannot get my hands on samples and the sales
> guy at Verizon was really pushy, trying to shame me out of anything but the
> newest model.  So, hoping a coupld of you smart people wouldn’t mind
> telling me your thoughts for budget conscious shoppers.  My biggest fear is
> getting an iphone 8 and having similar performance issues to what I have
> now where, even with four bars of cell service, my emails and web pages
> take super long to load.
>
>
>
> Robin
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: iphone 8 or XR?

2020-03-16 Thread Carolyn

I never had one problem with no Home Button. I put in my own facial ID, as, 
somehow, the guy at Wal-Mart could not. I think if you get it down in your mind 
that on opening your phone, place finger on bottom of the screen, move up to 
the first bop, you're there, second is Ap Switcher. Then you can do the same 
from the top, and first stop is Control Center and second is Notifications. My 
husband just knew I'd have some kind of learning curve or something, as he does 
seem to be rather lost looking at the thing. Sometimes, we talk ourselves into 
that something is really hard, like some people are about math. I said math 
now, didn't say anything about algebra, LOL. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 2:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iphone 8 or XR?

Also remember that the XR doesn't have the home button.  I have an 8 and really 
like it.  My emails load just fine and I don't have the best internet speed.  I 
know someone who had an XR phone and went back to the iPhone 8.

On 3/16/20, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Always better to go to a newer model if you can afford it and while 
> the iPhone 8 is a good model, the XR also was a very successful and 
> well-liked phone.
> If you are somebody who uses their phone for as long as possible which 
> I assume is the case since you still have your 6S, I would say it’s 
> probably worthwhile to spend the extra $150 and get the Xr.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Dennis Long
> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2020 10:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iphone 8 or XR?
>
> The 8 should serve you fine or you could wait until April and see if 
> the iPhone 9 is released.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> R Van Lant
> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 12:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iphone 8 or XR?
>
> Hi,
> I am currently on an iphone 6S and want to upgrade my phone, as I have 
> noticed performance issues since moving to IOS 13 and I want to be able to
> start using the Way Around tags.   With an $80 trade-in value, I’m debating
> between the iphoen which I can get new for $369 from Apple or the 
> iPhone XR for $519.  Is the iphone XR a good model?  The main reason I 
> was thinking of spending a bit more is to stave off any planned 
> obsolescence of the 8, but my budget would prefer the iphone 8.  I can also 
> see that the screen size is
> a bit bigger on the XR at 6.1 inches.   I really rely mainly on VoiceOver,
> so the screen clarity isn’t that important, nor is the fancy camera, 
> other than OCR  capability.  Yeah, battery life is nice, but I’ve 
> managed fine with my 6S and a portable battery pack for the rare 
> occasion I need extra power on the go.  Yes, I prefer finger print 
> reader to the idea of face ID, but I’m sure I’d adjust.
>
> With Apple stores closed, I cannot get my hands on samples and the 
> sales guy at Verizon was really pushy, trying to shame me out of 
> anything but the newest model.  So, hoping a coupld of you smart 
> people wouldn’t mind telling me your thoughts for budget conscious 
> shoppers.  My biggest fear is getting an iphone 8 and having similar 
> performance issues to what I have now where, even with four bars of 
> cell service, my emails and web pages take super long to load.
>
> Robin
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RE: iphone 8 or XR?

2020-03-16 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

I would say they are hugely different since the XR has no home button and uses 
Facetime for authentication and the iPhone 8 still uses the virtual home button 
with Touch Id.
This means you have to learn and get used to the gestures which replace single 
and double pressing the home button.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 12:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iphone 8 or XR?

For long life coverage,
Go the XR
They are a very similar phone in most ways although the processor in the XR is 
the year later I believe.

But either way both the 8 and the xr should be around / supported for another 
couple of years yet,

And ask your Verizon sales person why you should get the latest when the 8 or 
the XR would be very suitable for a person with a visual impairment

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: Monday, 16 March 2020 5:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iphone 8 or XR?

Hi,
I am currently on an iphone 6S and want to upgrade my phone, as I have noticed 
performance issues since moving to IOS 13 and I want to be able to start using 
the Way Around tags.   With an $80 trade-in value, I’m debating between the 
iphoen which I can get new for $369 from Apple or the iPhone XR for $519.  Is 
the iphone XR a good model?  The main reason I was thinking of spending a bit 
more is to stave off any planned obsolescence of the 8, but my budget would 
prefer the iphone 8.  I can also see that the screen size is a bit bigger on 
the XR at 6.1 inches.   I really rely mainly on VoiceOver, so the screen 
clarity isn’t that important, nor is the fancy camera, other than OCR  
capability.  Yeah, battery life is nice, but I’ve managed fine with my 6S and a 
portable battery pack for the rare occasion I need extra power on the go.  Yes, 
I prefer finger print reader to the idea of face ID, but I’m sure I’d adjust.

With Apple stores closed, I cannot get my hands on samples and the sales guy at 
Verizon was really pushy, trying to shame me out of anything but the newest 
model.  So, hoping a coupld of you smart people wouldn’t mind telling me your 
thoughts for budget conscious shoppers.  My biggest fear is getting an iphone 8 
and having similar performance issues to what I have now where, even with four 
bars of cell service, my emails and web pages take super long to load.

Robin

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Re: iphone 8 or XR?

2020-03-17 Thread brian albriton

Unfortunately, I cannot put my face in the pocket, and unlock the phone!  I 
prefer the discretion of the touch ID

> On Mar 16, 2020, at 10:48 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I would say they are hugely different since the XR has no home button and 
> uses Facetime for authentication and the iPhone 8 still uses the virtual home 
> button with Touch Id.
> This means you have to learn and get used to the gestures which replace 
> single and double pressing the home button.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon 
> A Fogarty
> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 12:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iphone 8 or XR?
>  
> For long life coverage,
> Go the XR
> They are a very similar phone in most ways although the processor in the XR 
> is the year later I believe.
>  
> But either way both the 8 and the xr should be around / supported for another 
> couple of years yet,
>  
> And ask your Verizon sales person why you should get the latest when the 8 or 
> the XR would be very suitable for a person with a visual impairment
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
> Lant
> Sent: Monday, 16 March 2020 5:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iphone 8 or XR?
>  
> Hi,
> I am currently on an iphone 6S and want to upgrade my phone, as I have 
> noticed performance issues since moving to IOS 13 and I want to be able to 
> start using the Way Around tags.   With an $80 trade-in value, I’m debating 
> between the iphoen which I can get new for $369 from Apple or the iPhone XR 
> for $519.  Is the iphone XR a good model?  The main reason I was thinking of 
> spending a bit more is to stave off any planned obsolescence of the 8, but my 
> budget would prefer the iphone 8.  I can also see that the screen size is a 
> bit bigger on the XR at 6.1 inches.   I really rely mainly on VoiceOver, so 
> the screen clarity isn’t that important, nor is the fancy camera, other than 
> OCR  capability.  Yeah, battery life is nice, but I’ve managed fine with my 
> 6S and a portable battery pack for the rare occasion I need extra power on 
> the go.  Yes, I prefer finger print reader to the idea of face ID, but I’m 
> sure I’d adjust. 
>  
> With Apple stores closed, I cannot get my hands on samples and the sales guy 
> at Verizon was really pushy, trying to shame me out of anything but the 
> newest model.  So, hoping a coupld of you smart people wouldn’t mind telling 
> me your thoughts for budget conscious shoppers.  My biggest fear is getting 
> an iphone 8 and having similar performance issues to what I have now where, 
> even with four bars of cell service, my emails and web pages take super long 
> to load. 
>  
> Robin
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
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Re: iphone 8 or XR?

2020-03-17 Thread Øyvind Lode

I recently went from iPhone 7 to XR.
Getting used to the large screen and no home button took about 2 minutes.
I really loved Touch ID and I was a bit skeptic.
However, Face ID is simply brilliant.

On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 at 14:37, brian albriton  wrote:
>
> Unfortunately, I cannot put my face in the pocket, and unlock the phone!  I 
> prefer the discretion of the touch ID
>
> On Mar 16, 2020, at 10:48 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> I would say they are hugely different since the XR has no home button and 
> uses Facetime for authentication and the iPhone 8 still uses the virtual home 
> button with Touch Id.
>
> This means you have to learn and get used to the gestures which replace 
> single and double pressing the home button.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon 
> A Fogarty
> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 12:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iphone 8 or XR?
>
>
>
> For long life coverage,
>
> Go the XR
>
> They are a very similar phone in most ways although the processor in the XR 
> is the year later I believe.
>
>
>
> But either way both the 8 and the xr should be around / supported for another 
> couple of years yet,
>
>
>
> And ask your Verizon sales person why you should get the latest when the 8 or 
> the XR would be very suitable for a person with a visual impairment
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
> Lant
> Sent: Monday, 16 March 2020 5:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iphone 8 or XR?
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I am currently on an iphone 6S and want to upgrade my phone, as I have 
> noticed performance issues since moving to IOS 13 and I want to be able to 
> start using the Way Around tags.   With an $80 trade-in value, I’m debating 
> between the iphoen which I can get new for $369 from Apple or the iPhone XR 
> for $519.  Is the iphone XR a good model?  The main reason I was thinking of 
> spending a bit more is to stave off any planned obsolescence of the 8, but my 
> budget would prefer the iphone 8.  I can also see that the screen size is a 
> bit bigger on the XR at 6.1 inches.   I really rely mainly on VoiceOver, so 
> the screen clarity isn’t that important, nor is the fancy camera, other than 
> OCR  capability.  Yeah, battery life is nice, but I’ve managed fine with my 
> 6S and a portable battery pack for the rare occasion I need extra power on 
> the go.  Yes, I prefer finger print reader to the idea of face ID, but I’m 
> sure I’d adjust.
>
>
>
> With Apple stores closed, I cannot get my hands on samples and the sales guy 
> at Verizon was really pushy, trying to shame me out of anything but the 
> newest model.  So, hoping a coupld of you smart people wouldn’t mind telling 
> me your thoughts for budget conscious shoppers.  My biggest fear is getting 
> an iphone 8 and having similar performance issues to what I have now where, 
> even with four bars of cell service, my emails and web pages take super long 
> to load.
>
>
>
> Robin
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: iphone 8 or XR?

2020-03-17 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

Yes, Touch Id may let you unlock the phone while it's in your pocket or in a 
belt holster, but it's different strokes for different folks. I live in 
northern Canada and I'd love to have Facetime since then I wouldn't have to 
take off my gloves every time I'm outside and want to unlock my phone and for 
us up here that is probably about 5 months out of the year. Then there are the 
times when I spend more time in my woodworking shop and when Touch Id simply 
won't work because either my fingers have too many cut and cracks in them or 
they are full of glue which even when properly removed usually messes up Touch 
Id for a few days.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Øyvind 
Lode
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 8:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iphone 8 or XR?

I recently went from iPhone 7 to XR.
Getting used to the large screen and no home button took about 2 minutes.
I really loved Touch ID and I was a bit skeptic.
However, Face ID is simply brilliant.

On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 at 14:37, brian albriton  wrote:
>
> Unfortunately, I cannot put my face in the pocket, and unlock the phone!  I 
> prefer the discretion of the touch ID
>
> On Mar 16, 2020, at 10:48 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> I would say they are hugely different since the XR has no home button and 
> uses Facetime for authentication and the iPhone 8 still uses the virtual home 
> button with Touch Id.
>
> This means you have to learn and get used to the gestures which replace 
> single and double pressing the home button.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon 
> A Fogarty
> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 12:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iphone 8 or XR?
>
>
>
> For long life coverage,
>
> Go the XR
>
> They are a very similar phone in most ways although the processor in the XR 
> is the year later I believe.
>
>
>
> But either way both the 8 and the xr should be around / supported for another 
> couple of years yet,
>
>
>
> And ask your Verizon sales person why you should get the latest when the 8 or 
> the XR would be very suitable for a person with a visual impairment
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
> Lant
> Sent: Monday, 16 March 2020 5:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iphone 8 or XR?
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I am currently on an iphone 6S and want to upgrade my phone, as I have 
> noticed performance issues since moving to IOS 13 and I want to be able to 
> start using the Way Around tags.   With an $80 trade-in value, I’m debating 
> between the iphoen which I can get new for $369 from Apple or the iPhone XR 
> for $519.  Is the iphone XR a good model?  The main reason I was thinking of 
> spending a bit more is to stave off any planned obsolescence of the 8, but my 
> budget would prefer the iphone 8.  I can also see that the screen size is a 
> bit bigger on the XR at 6.1 inches.   I really rely mainly on VoiceOver, so 
> the screen clarity isn’t that important, nor is the fancy camera, other than 
> OCR  capability.  Yeah, battery life is nice, but I’ve managed fine with my 
> 6S and a portable battery pack for the rare occasion I need extra power on 
> the go.  Yes, I prefer finger print reader to the idea of face ID, but I’m 
> sure I’d adjust.
>
>
>
> With Apple stores closed, I cannot get my hands on samples and the sales guy 
> at Verizon was really pushy, trying to shame me out of anything but the 
> newest model.  So, hoping a coupld of you smart people wouldn’t mind telling 
> me your thoughts for budget conscious shoppers.  My biggest fear is getting 
> an iphone 8 and having similar performance issues to what I have now where, 
> even with four bars of cell service, my emails and web pages take super long 
> to load.
>
>
>
> Robin
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: iphone 8 or XR?

2020-03-17 Thread Eric Caron

Hi Sieghard

I was so happy to get a face recognition iPhone for exactly those 
reasons.  Though my Vermont weather isn’t as bad, the wood working and hard use 
of my hands in projects caused my finger print reader to rarely work.  I was 
often redoing it so it would work for a little while. 

I have found that I can be subtle when opening my iPhone.  As all it 
has to do is sort of see my face and it clicks on.  I have it on the setting 
that doesn’t require eye contact. 

Now if only my talking tape measure and audible level could be controlled by my 
voice that would be great!

Is there a email list for blind wood workers out there!
 Or, maybe those working on vintage cars? 

One more related thing.  I did struggle a little to learn the gestures that 
replace the home key.  I was trying to do them from a podcast description.  It 
took me some practice and I did have some frustration.  But, now I prefer the 
gestures and miss them when using older iPhones. 


Eric Caron 

> On Mar 17, 2020, at 5:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Yes, Touch Id may let you unlock the phone while it's in your pocket or in a 
> belt holster, but it's different strokes for different folks. I live in 
> northern Canada and I'd love to have Facetime since then I wouldn't have to 
> take off my gloves every time I'm outside and want to unlock my phone and for 
> us up here that is probably about 5 months out of the year. Then there are 
> the times when I spend more time in my woodworking shop and when Touch Id 
> simply won't work because either my fingers have too many cut and cracks in 
> them or they are full of glue which even when properly removed usually messes 
> up Touch Id for a few days.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Øyvind 
> Lode
> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 8:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iphone 8 or XR?
> 
> I recently went from iPhone 7 to XR.
> Getting used to the large screen and no home button took about 2 minutes.
> I really loved Touch ID and I was a bit skeptic.
> However, Face ID is simply brilliant.
> 
> On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 at 14:37, brian albriton  wrote:
>> 
>> Unfortunately, I cannot put my face in the pocket, and unlock the phone!  I 
>> prefer the discretion of the touch ID
>> 
>> On Mar 16, 2020, at 10:48 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> I would say they are hugely different since the XR has no home button and 
>> uses Facetime for authentication and the iPhone 8 still uses the virtual 
>> home button with Touch Id.
>> 
>> This means you have to learn and get used to the gestures which replace 
>> single and double pressing the home button.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon 
>> A Fogarty
>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 12:33 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: iphone 8 or XR?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> For long life coverage,
>> 
>> Go the XR
>> 
>> They are a very similar phone in most ways although the processor in the XR 
>> is the year later I believe.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> But either way both the 8 and the xr should be around / supported for 
>> another couple of years yet,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> And ask your Verizon sales person why you should get the latest when the 8 
>> or the XR would be very suitable for a person with a visual impairment
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
>> Lant
>> Sent: Monday, 16 March 2020 5:31 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: iphone 8 or XR?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I am currently on an iphone 6S and want to upgrade my phone, as I have 
>> noticed performance issues since moving to IOS 13 and I want to be able to 
>> start using the Way Around tags.   With an $80 trade-in value, I’m debating 
>> between the iphoen which I can get new for $369 from Apple or the iPhone XR 
>> for $519.  Is the iphone XR a good model?  The main reason I was thinking of 
>> spending a bit more is to stave off any planned obsolescence of the 8, but 
>> my budget would prefer the iphone 8.  I can also see that the screen size is 
>> a bit bigger on the XR at 6.1 inches.   I really rely mainly on VoiceOver, 
>> so the screen clarity isn’t that important, nor is the fancy camera, other 
>> than OCR  capability.  Yeah, battery life is nice, but I’ve managed fine 
>> with my 6S and a portable battery pack for the rare occasion I need extra 
>> power on the go.  Yes, I prefer finger print reader to the idea of face ID, 
>> but I’m sure I’d ad

Re: iphone 8 or XR?

2020-03-17 Thread Mike B.

Hi Eric,

A friend has the website below, hopefully you'll find it to your liking, but 
I'm not sure if they have an email group / list.

http://www.WoodWorkingInTheDark.com



Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I didn't stop shaking hands because of, COVID-19, I stopped because noone 
can buy toilet paper!

- Original Message - 
From: Eric Caron
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: iphone 8 or XR?


Hi Sieghard

I was so happy to get a face recognition iPhone for exactly those reasons. 
Though my Vermont weather isn’t as bad, the wood working and hard use of my 
hands in projects caused my finger print reader to rarely work.  I was often 
redoing it so it would work for a little while.

I have found that I can be subtle when opening my iPhone.  As all it has to 
do is sort of see my face and it clicks on.  I have it on the setting that 
doesn’t require eye contact.

Now if only my talking tape measure and audible level could be controlled by 
my voice that would be great!

Is there a email list for blind wood workers out there!
 Or, maybe those working on vintage cars?

One more related thing.  I did struggle a little to learn the gestures that 
replace the home key.  I was trying to do them from a podcast description. 
It took me some practice and I did have some frustration.  But, now I prefer 
the gestures and miss them when using older iPhones.


Eric Caron

> On Mar 17, 2020, at 5:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> Yes, Touch Id may let you unlock the phone while it's in your pocket or in 
> a belt holster, but it's different strokes for different folks. I live in 
> northern Canada and I'd love to have Facetime since then I wouldn't have 
> to take off my gloves every time I'm outside and want to unlock my phone 
> and for us up here that is probably about 5 months out of the year. Then 
> there are the times when I spend more time in my woodworking shop and when 
> Touch Id simply won't work because either my fingers have too many cut and 
> cracks in them or they are full of glue which even when properly removed 
> usually messes up Touch Id for a few days.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Øyvind Lode
> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 8:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iphone 8 or XR?
>
> I recently went from iPhone 7 to XR.
> Getting used to the large screen and no home button took about 2 minutes.
> I really loved Touch ID and I was a bit skeptic.
> However, Face ID is simply brilliant.
>
> On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 at 14:37, brian albriton  
> wrote:
>>
>> Unfortunately, I cannot put my face in the pocket, and unlock the phone! 
>> I prefer the discretion of the touch ID
>>
>> On Mar 16, 2020, at 10:48 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>> I would say they are hugely different since the XR has no home button and 
>> uses Facetime for authentication and the iPhone 8 still uses the virtual 
>> home button with Touch Id.
>>
>> This means you have to learn and get used to the gestures which replace 
>> single and double pressing the home button.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 12:33 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: iphone 8 or XR?
>>
>>
>>
>> For long life coverage,
>>
>> Go the XR
>>
>> They are a very similar phone in most ways although the processor in the 
>> XR is the year later I believe.
>>
>>
>>
>> But either way both the 8 and the xr should be around / supported for 
>> another couple of years yet,
>>
>>
>>
>> And ask your Verizon sales person why you should get the latest when the 
>> 8 or the XR would be very suitable for a person with a visual impairment
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R 
>> Van Lant
>> Sent: Monday, 16 March 2020 5:31 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: iphone 8 or XR?
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am currently on an iphone 6S and want to upgrade my phone, as I have 
>> noticed performance issues since moving to IOS 13 and I want to be able 
>> to start using the Way Around tags.   With an $80 trade-in value, I’m 
>> debating between the iphoen which I can get new for $369 from Apple or 
>> the iPhone XR for $519.  Is the iphone XR a good model?  The main reason 
>> I was thinking of spending a bit more is to stave off any planned 
>> obsolescence of the 8, but my budget would prefer the iphone 8.  I can 
>> also see that the screen size is

RE: iphone 8 or XR?

2020-03-18 Thread Simon A Fogarty

And from what I've heard from someone that worked in Canada as a fireman 
Taking your gloves off in the cold, isn't really a good idea.


I have to admit I had trouble when I cut myself trying to open a phone with 
touch id,

Can't think how bad it is for you after you've been working in the workshop.

 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, 18 March 2020 10:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iphone 8 or XR?

Yes, Touch Id may let you unlock the phone while it's in your pocket or in a 
belt holster, but it's different strokes for different folks. I live in 
northern Canada and I'd love to have Facetime since then I wouldn't have to 
take off my gloves every time I'm outside and want to unlock my phone and for 
us up here that is probably about 5 months out of the year. Then there are the 
times when I spend more time in my woodworking shop and when Touch Id simply 
won't work because either my fingers have too many cut and cracks in them or 
they are full of glue which even when properly removed usually messes up Touch 
Id for a few days.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Øyvind 
Lode
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 8:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iphone 8 or XR?

I recently went from iPhone 7 to XR.
Getting used to the large screen and no home button took about 2 minutes.
I really loved Touch ID and I was a bit skeptic.
However, Face ID is simply brilliant.

On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 at 14:37, brian albriton  wrote:
>
> Unfortunately, I cannot put my face in the pocket, and unlock the phone!  I 
> prefer the discretion of the touch ID
>
> On Mar 16, 2020, at 10:48 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> I would say they are hugely different since the XR has no home button and 
> uses Facetime for authentication and the iPhone 8 still uses the virtual home 
> button with Touch Id.
>
> This means you have to learn and get used to the gestures which replace 
> single and double pressing the home button.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon 
> A Fogarty
> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 12:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iphone 8 or XR?
>
>
>
> For long life coverage,
>
> Go the XR
>
> They are a very similar phone in most ways although the processor in the XR 
> is the year later I believe.
>
>
>
> But either way both the 8 and the xr should be around / supported for another 
> couple of years yet,
>
>
>
> And ask your Verizon sales person why you should get the latest when the 8 or 
> the XR would be very suitable for a person with a visual impairment
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
> Lant
> Sent: Monday, 16 March 2020 5:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iphone 8 or XR?
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I am currently on an iphone 6S and want to upgrade my phone, as I have 
> noticed performance issues since moving to IOS 13 and I want to be able to 
> start using the Way Around tags.   With an $80 trade-in value, I’m debating 
> between the iphoen which I can get new for $369 from Apple or the iPhone XR 
> for $519.  Is the iphone XR a good model?  The main reason I was thinking of 
> spending a bit more is to stave off any planned obsolescence of the 8, but my 
> budget would prefer the iphone 8.  I can also see that the screen size is a 
> bit bigger on the XR at 6.1 inches.   I really rely mainly on VoiceOver, so 
> the screen clarity isn’t that important, nor is the fancy camera, other than 
> OCR  capability.  Yeah, battery life is nice, but I’ve managed fine with my 
> 6S and a portable battery pack for the rare occasion I need extra power on 
> the go.  Yes, I prefer finger print reader to the idea of face ID, but I’m 
> sure I’d adjust.
>
>
>
> With Apple stores closed, I cannot get my hands on samples and the sales guy 
> at Verizon was really pushy, trying to shame me out of anything but the 
> newest model.  So, hoping a coupld of you smart people wouldn’t mind telling 
> me your thoughts for budget conscious shoppers.  My biggest fear is getting 
> an iphone 8 and having similar performance issues to what I have now where, 
> even with four bars of cell service, my emails and web pages take super long 
> to load.
>
>
>
> Robin
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: iphone 8 or XR?

2020-03-18 Thread Carolyn

When I had fingerprint ID, I used my thumb. I figured it was the least likely 
to get a nick or something causing a problem. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Eric Caron
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 8:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iphone 8 or XR?

Hi Sieghard

I was so happy to get a face recognition iPhone for exactly those 
reasons.  Though my Vermont weather isn’t as bad, the wood working and hard use 
of my hands in projects caused my finger print reader to rarely work.  I was 
often redoing it so it would work for a little while. 

I have found that I can be subtle when opening my iPhone.  As all it 
has to do is sort of see my face and it clicks on.  I have it on the setting 
that doesn’t require eye contact. 

Now if only my talking tape measure and audible level could be controlled by my 
voice that would be great!

Is there a email list for blind wood workers out there!
 Or, maybe those working on vintage cars? 

One more related thing.  I did struggle a little to learn the gestures that 
replace the home key.  I was trying to do them from a podcast description.  It 
took me some practice and I did have some frustration.  But, now I prefer the 
gestures and miss them when using older iPhones. 


Eric Caron 

> On Mar 17, 2020, at 5:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Yes, Touch Id may let you unlock the phone while it's in your pocket or in a 
> belt holster, but it's different strokes for different folks. I live in 
> northern Canada and I'd love to have Facetime since then I wouldn't have to 
> take off my gloves every time I'm outside and want to unlock my phone and for 
> us up here that is probably about 5 months out of the year. Then there are 
> the times when I spend more time in my woodworking shop and when Touch Id 
> simply won't work because either my fingers have too many cut and cracks in 
> them or they are full of glue which even when properly removed usually messes 
> up Touch Id for a few days.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Øyvind 
> Lode
> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 8:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iphone 8 or XR?
> 
> I recently went from iPhone 7 to XR.
> Getting used to the large screen and no home button took about 2 minutes.
> I really loved Touch ID and I was a bit skeptic.
> However, Face ID is simply brilliant.
> 
> On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 at 14:37, brian albriton  wrote:
>> 
>> Unfortunately, I cannot put my face in the pocket, and unlock the phone!  I 
>> prefer the discretion of the touch ID
>> 
>> On Mar 16, 2020, at 10:48 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> I would say they are hugely different since the XR has no home button and 
>> uses Facetime for authentication and the iPhone 8 still uses the virtual 
>> home button with Touch Id.
>> 
>> This means you have to learn and get used to the gestures which replace 
>> single and double pressing the home button.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon 
>> A Fogarty
>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 12:33 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: iphone 8 or XR?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> For long life coverage,
>> 
>> Go the XR
>> 
>> They are a very similar phone in most ways although the processor in the XR 
>> is the year later I believe.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> But either way both the 8 and the xr should be around / supported for 
>> another couple of years yet,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> And ask your Verizon sales person why you should get the latest when the 8 
>> or the XR would be very suitable for a person with a visual impairment
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
>> Lant
>> Sent: Monday, 16 March 2020 5:31 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: iphone 8 or XR?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I am currently on an iphone 6S and want to upgrade my phone, as I have 
>> noticed performance issues since moving to IOS 13 and I want to be able to 
>> start using the Way Around tags.   With an $80 trade-in value, I’m debating 
>> between the iphoen which I can get new for $369 from Apple or the iPhone XR 
>> for $519.  Is the iphone XR a good model?  The main reason I was thinking of 
>> spending a bit more is to stave off any planned obsolescence of the 8, but 
>> my budget would prefer the iphone 8.  I can also see that the screen size is 
>> a bit bigger on the XR at 6.1 inches.   I really rely mainly on VoiceOver, 
>> so the screen clar

Re: iphone 8 or XR?

2020-03-18 Thread Eric Caron

Yes, 

I set up my thumb, a finger on my right hand and one on my left.  But 
results were very poor.  But than again  When I needed a background check for 
my last job I could not get usable fingerprints.  I went back 5 times.  Finally 
they gave me special status as I had no usable fingerprints.  This was from 
many months of hands on construction on my home restoration.

I liked the idea of the finger print but Face ID is working much better for me. 

I’m now having similar finger print problems on my Mac.  I got it working again 
but then once I started some outdoor projects my hands got rough and it sopped 
working.

Here is hoping for Face ID for my Mac!  Or for using my iPhone to confirm 
identity on my Mac!

Best,

Eric Caron 


> On Mar 18, 2020, at 4:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> When I had fingerprint ID, I used my thumb. I figured it was the least likely 
> to get a nick or something causing a problem. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Eric Caron
> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 8:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iphone 8 or XR?
> 
> Hi Sieghard
> 
>   I was so happy to get a face recognition iPhone for exactly those 
> reasons.  Though my Vermont weather isn’t as bad, the wood working and hard 
> use of my hands in projects caused my finger print reader to rarely work.  I 
> was often redoing it so it would work for a little while. 
> 
>   I have found that I can be subtle when opening my iPhone.  As all it 
> has to do is sort of see my face and it clicks on.  I have it on the setting 
> that doesn’t require eye contact. 
> 
> Now if only my talking tape measure and audible level could be controlled by 
> my voice that would be great!
> 
> Is there a email list for blind wood workers out there!
> Or, maybe those working on vintage cars? 
> 
> One more related thing.  I did struggle a little to learn the gestures that 
> replace the home key.  I was trying to do them from a podcast description.  
> It took me some practice and I did have some frustration.  But, now I prefer 
> the gestures and miss them when using older iPhones. 
> 
> 
> Eric Caron 
> 
>> On Mar 17, 2020, at 5:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, Touch Id may let you unlock the phone while it's in your pocket or in a 
>> belt holster, but it's different strokes for different folks. I live in 
>> northern Canada and I'd love to have Facetime since then I wouldn't have to 
>> take off my gloves every time I'm outside and want to unlock my phone and 
>> for us up here that is probably about 5 months out of the year. Then there 
>> are the times when I spend more time in my woodworking shop and when Touch 
>> Id simply won't work because either my fingers have too many cut and cracks 
>> in them or they are full of glue which even when properly removed usually 
>> messes up Touch Id for a few days.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Øyvind Lode
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 8:45 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iphone 8 or XR?
>> 
>> I recently went from iPhone 7 to XR.
>> Getting used to the large screen and no home button took about 2 minutes.
>> I really loved Touch ID and I was a bit skeptic.
>> However, Face ID is simply brilliant.
>> 
>> On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 at 14:37, brian albriton  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately, I cannot put my face in the pocket, and unlock the phone!  I 
>>> prefer the discretion of the touch ID
>>> 
>>> On Mar 16, 2020, at 10:48 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I would say they are hugely different since the XR has no home button and 
>>> uses Facetime for authentication and the iPhone 8 still uses the virtual 
>>> home button with Touch Id.
>>> 
>>> This means you have to learn and get used to the gestures which replace 
>>> single and double pressing the home button.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Simon A Fogarty
>>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 12:33 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: iphone 8 or XR?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> For long life coverage,
>>> 
>>> Go the XR
>>> 
>>> They are a very similar phone in most ways although the processor in the XR 
>>> is the year later I believe.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> But either way both the 8 and the xr should

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