Re: need help testing a page for accessibility
Hey Donald, I am running into the same issues you are describing. Even on my computer VO is not reading the table header as such. It will read the content in the table header but it will not read the proper roll tag outloud. Hmm… I am puzzled on this one. I thought it was working the last time I used any tables… I have to dabble a little more with VO and creating tables. I even just for kicks added the title=“header” syntax to the opening this simply messes up the rest of the column. Now you’ve got me interested in seeing if I can figure out the code. If you would like you can email me off list with the html stuff (e...@overhereconsulting.net) instead of keeping this thread off topic for the list. Ed Ed > On Jul 11, 2019, at 10:15 AM, Donald Raikes wrote: > > Ed, > > The first table on the page I hand-coded using basic html. The second > table is an oracleJet table component, so I wouldn't be surprised if > it is acting a little different. > > If you want to create a table that I can test with VoiceOver that > would be great. > > Thanks > > On 7/11/19, Ed Worrell wrote: >> Hey Donald, >> >> This table is not using basic html correctly. I can create a table for you >> and see if VoiceOver is still acting weird with it. Even on my computer it’s >> acting a little strange. I think they used very basic html and didn’t use >> the proper row or table header tags. This site is done by Oracle, the second >> table is done with Java Script and it’s meant to look more accessible as JS >> was developed by Oracle. >> >> Ed W. >> >>> On Jul 10, 2019, at 5:18 PM, Richard Turner >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> I do not think VoiceOver will speak the column and row headings like >>> Jaws. >>> That has never worked for me, other than creating lots of extra verbiage >>> that ends up being the row and column numbers, but never the headings. >>> Maybe in iOS 13 we could see this, but I'm not holding my breath. >>> >>> >>> Richard >>> >>> Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology >>> is indistinguishable from magic." >>> (Sent from the magical iPhone SE) >>> www.turner42.com >>> >>> On Jul 10, 2019, at 3:27 PM, Donald Raikes wrote: Ed, Thanks for the suggestions, but yes the verbosity was set to announce the row and column headings. > On 7/10/19, Ed Worrell wrote: > Hello, > > Have you gone into the settings app, general, accessibility, VoiceOver, > verbosity and checked to make sure all of the verbosity levels are set > to on > for tables? > > This is where I would start. If I’m not mistaken there should also be a > rotor option for tables. I don’t utilize this feature but it might only > be > to find tables on the page. I honestly don’t remember. > > Ed W. > >> On Jul 10, 2019, at 3:43 PM, Donald Raikes >> wrote: >> >> Hello all you VoiceOver experts: >> >> I am trying to understand how VoiceOver should behave when working >> with html tables. >> >> I know that with JAWS, when I use the table navigation keystrokes that >> JAWS will read the row/column headers plus the coordinate and data >> cell contents. >> >> When I use VoiceOver, all I am getting is the cell coordinates and >> cell contents not the row and column headers. >> >> What I do: >> using the rotor, I jump to the table, then set the rotor to vertical >> navigation. If I flick right or left I get the cell coordinate and its >> contents but no header information. Same thing happens if I flick >> up/down. >> >> Is there something I am doing wrong, or is this a limitation of >> VoiceOver? >> >> Test URL: >> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdonraikes.github.io%2FAccJet%2F%3Froot%3Dmodule3%26mod3%3Dtable&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca94b3339d41c49346f0a08d70585bc98%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636983944258246055&sdata=r7Uweprw7bTTo91BlHD4cPIiKiBgCYC2WOCzeTq8DRY%3D&reserved=0 >> >> Thanks in advance for any help. >> >> Donald Raikes >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >> list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >> or >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca94b3339d41c49346f0a08d70585bc98%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%
Re: need help testing a page for accessibility
Ed, The first table on the page I hand-coded using basic html. The second table is an oracleJet table component, so I wouldn't be surprised if it is acting a little different. If you want to create a table that I can test with VoiceOver that would be great. Thanks On 7/11/19, Ed Worrell wrote: > Hey Donald, > > This table is not using basic html correctly. I can create a table for you > and see if VoiceOver is still acting weird with it. Even on my computer it’s > acting a little strange. I think they used very basic html and didn’t use > the proper row or table header tags. This site is done by Oracle, the second > table is done with Java Script and it’s meant to look more accessible as JS > was developed by Oracle. > > Ed W. > >> On Jul 10, 2019, at 5:18 PM, Richard Turner >> wrote: >> >> >> I do not think VoiceOver will speak the column and row headings like >> Jaws. >> That has never worked for me, other than creating lots of extra verbiage >> that ends up being the row and column numbers, but never the headings. >> Maybe in iOS 13 we could see this, but I'm not holding my breath. >> >> >> Richard >> >> Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology >> is indistinguishable from magic." >> (Sent from the magical iPhone SE) >> www.turner42.com >> >> >>> On Jul 10, 2019, at 3:27 PM, Donald Raikes wrote: >>> >>> Ed, >>> >>> Thanks for the suggestions, but yes the verbosity was set to announce >>> the row and column headings. >>> On 7/10/19, Ed Worrell wrote: Hello, Have you gone into the settings app, general, accessibility, VoiceOver, verbosity and checked to make sure all of the verbosity levels are set to on for tables? This is where I would start. If I’m not mistaken there should also be a rotor option for tables. I don’t utilize this feature but it might only be to find tables on the page. I honestly don’t remember. Ed W. > On Jul 10, 2019, at 3:43 PM, Donald Raikes > wrote: > > Hello all you VoiceOver experts: > > I am trying to understand how VoiceOver should behave when working > with html tables. > > I know that with JAWS, when I use the table navigation keystrokes that > JAWS will read the row/column headers plus the coordinate and data > cell contents. > > When I use VoiceOver, all I am getting is the cell coordinates and > cell contents not the row and column headers. > > What I do: > using the rotor, I jump to the table, then set the rotor to vertical > navigation. If I flick right or left I get the cell coordinate and its > contents but no header information. Same thing happens if I flick > up/down. > > Is there something I am doing wrong, or is this a limitation of > VoiceOver? > > Test URL: > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdonraikes.github.io%2FAccJet%2F%3Froot%3Dmodule3%26mod3%3Dtable&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca94b3339d41c49346f0a08d70585bc98%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636983944258246055&sdata=r7Uweprw7bTTo91BlHD4cPIiKiBgCYC2WOCzeTq8DRY%3D&reserved=0 > > Thanks in advance for any help. > > Donald Raikes > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca94b3339d41c49346f0a08d70585bc98%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636983944258246055&sdata=5Jvrf18cQDDHA0m21BAyFjF4RvbVOVawYiRAP4l9A5g%3D&reserved=0 > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2FCAPamLv-93rtJ1YQ30mjLZ%253DvZvu1Rz7O6U1wSR4bd-8dfMvgviw%2540mail.gmail.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca94b3339d41c49346f0a08d70585bc98%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636983944258256061&sdata=Z6vU3NOrhHj318IteyKBx2oFBqZSeuRjoPNnCuc1Ubw%3D&reserved=0. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this lis
Re: need help testing a page for accessibility
Hey Donald, This table is not using basic html correctly. I can create a table for you and see if VoiceOver is still acting weird with it. Even on my computer it’s acting a little strange. I think they used very basic html and didn’t use the proper row or table header tags. This site is done by Oracle, the second table is done with Java Script and it’s meant to look more accessible as JS was developed by Oracle. Ed W. > On Jul 10, 2019, at 5:18 PM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > > I do not think VoiceOver will speak the column and row headings like Jaws. > That has never worked for me, other than creating lots of extra verbiage that > ends up being the row and column numbers, but never the headings. > Maybe in iOS 13 we could see this, but I'm not holding my breath. > > > Richard > > Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is > indistinguishable from magic." > (Sent from the magical iPhone SE) > www.turner42.com > > >> On Jul 10, 2019, at 3:27 PM, Donald Raikes wrote: >> >> Ed, >> >> Thanks for the suggestions, but yes the verbosity was set to announce >> the row and column headings. >> >>> On 7/10/19, Ed Worrell wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> Have you gone into the settings app, general, accessibility, VoiceOver, >>> verbosity and checked to make sure all of the verbosity levels are set to on >>> for tables? >>> >>> This is where I would start. If I’m not mistaken there should also be a >>> rotor option for tables. I don’t utilize this feature but it might only be >>> to find tables on the page. I honestly don’t remember. >>> >>> Ed W. >>> On Jul 10, 2019, at 3:43 PM, Donald Raikes wrote: Hello all you VoiceOver experts: I am trying to understand how VoiceOver should behave when working with html tables. I know that with JAWS, when I use the table navigation keystrokes that JAWS will read the row/column headers plus the coordinate and data cell contents. When I use VoiceOver, all I am getting is the cell coordinates and cell contents not the row and column headers. What I do: using the rotor, I jump to the table, then set the rotor to vertical navigation. If I flick right or left I get the cell coordinate and its contents but no header information. Same thing happens if I flick up/down. Is there something I am doing wrong, or is this a limitation of VoiceOver? Test URL: https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdonraikes.github.io%2FAccJet%2F%3Froot%3Dmodule3%26mod3%3Dtable&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca94b3339d41c49346f0a08d70585bc98%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636983944258246055&sdata=r7Uweprw7bTTo91BlHD4cPIiKiBgCYC2WOCzeTq8DRY%3D&reserved=0 Thanks in advance for any help. Donald Raikes -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca94b3339d41c49346f0a08d70585bc98%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636983944258246055&sdata=5Jvrf18cQDDHA0m21BAyFjF4RvbVOVawYiRAP4l9A5g%3D&reserved=0 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2FCAPamLv-93rtJ1YQ30mjLZ%253DvZvu1Rz7O6U1wSR4bd-8dfMvgviw%2540mail.gmail.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca94b3339d41c49346f0a08d70585bc98%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636983944258256061&sdata=Z6vU3NOrhHj318IteyKBx2oFBqZSeuRjoPNnCuc1Ubw%3D&reserved=0. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>> list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> https://eur01.saf
Re: need help testing a page for accessibility
I do not think VoiceOver will speak the column and row headings like Jaws. That has never worked for me, other than creating lots of extra verbiage that ends up being the row and column numbers, but never the headings. Maybe in iOS 13 we could see this, but I'm not holding my breath. Richard Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." (Sent from the magical iPhone SE) www.turner42.com > On Jul 10, 2019, at 3:27 PM, Donald Raikes wrote: > > Ed, > > Thanks for the suggestions, but yes the verbosity was set to announce > the row and column headings. > >> On 7/10/19, Ed Worrell wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Have you gone into the settings app, general, accessibility, VoiceOver, >> verbosity and checked to make sure all of the verbosity levels are set to on >> for tables? >> >> This is where I would start. If I’m not mistaken there should also be a >> rotor option for tables. I don’t utilize this feature but it might only be >> to find tables on the page. I honestly don’t remember. >> >> Ed W. >> >>> On Jul 10, 2019, at 3:43 PM, Donald Raikes wrote: >>> >>> Hello all you VoiceOver experts: >>> >>> I am trying to understand how VoiceOver should behave when working >>> with html tables. >>> >>> I know that with JAWS, when I use the table navigation keystrokes that >>> JAWS will read the row/column headers plus the coordinate and data >>> cell contents. >>> >>> When I use VoiceOver, all I am getting is the cell coordinates and >>> cell contents not the row and column headers. >>> >>> What I do: >>> using the rotor, I jump to the table, then set the rotor to vertical >>> navigation. If I flick right or left I get the cell coordinate and its >>> contents but no header information. Same thing happens if I flick >>> up/down. >>> >>> Is there something I am doing wrong, or is this a limitation of >>> VoiceOver? >>> >>> Test URL: >>> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdonraikes.github.io%2FAccJet%2F%3Froot%3Dmodule3%26mod3%3Dtable&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca94b3339d41c49346f0a08d70585bc98%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636983944258246055&sdata=r7Uweprw7bTTo91BlHD4cPIiKiBgCYC2WOCzeTq8DRY%3D&reserved=0 >>> >>> Thanks in advance for any help. >>> >>> Donald Raikes >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>> list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca94b3339d41c49346f0a08d70585bc98%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636983944258246055&sdata=5Jvrf18cQDDHA0m21BAyFjF4RvbVOVawYiRAP4l9A5g%3D&reserved=0 >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2FCAPamLv-93rtJ1YQ30mjLZ%253DvZvu1Rz7O6U1wSR4bd-8dfMvgviw%2540mail.gmail.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca94b3339d41c49346f0a08d70585bc98%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636983944258256061&sdata=Z6vU3NOrhHj318IteyKBx2oFBqZSeuRjoPNnCuc1Ubw%3D&reserved=0. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >> list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca94b3339d41c49346f0a08d70585bc98%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636983944258256061&sdata=YUDGeTHgBjhGp%2BtqKJGjJ3LPdt9SF6egVNGJ5kJK32Y%3D&reserved=0 >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.co
Re: need help testing a page for accessibility
Ed, Thanks for the suggestions, but yes the verbosity was set to announce the row and column headings. On 7/10/19, Ed Worrell wrote: > Hello, > > Have you gone into the settings app, general, accessibility, VoiceOver, > verbosity and checked to make sure all of the verbosity levels are set to on > for tables? > > This is where I would start. If I’m not mistaken there should also be a > rotor option for tables. I don’t utilize this feature but it might only be > to find tables on the page. I honestly don’t remember. > > Ed W. > >> On Jul 10, 2019, at 3:43 PM, Donald Raikes wrote: >> >> Hello all you VoiceOver experts: >> >> I am trying to understand how VoiceOver should behave when working >> with html tables. >> >> I know that with JAWS, when I use the table navigation keystrokes that >> JAWS will read the row/column headers plus the coordinate and data >> cell contents. >> >> When I use VoiceOver, all I am getting is the cell coordinates and >> cell contents not the row and column headers. >> >> What I do: >> using the rotor, I jump to the table, then set the rotor to vertical >> navigation. If I flick right or left I get the cell coordinate and its >> contents but no header information. Same thing happens if I flick >> up/down. >> >> Is there something I am doing wrong, or is this a limitation of >> VoiceOver? >> >> Test URL: >> https://donraikes.github.io/AccJet/?root=module3&mod3=table >> >> Thanks in advance for any help. >> >> Donald Raikes >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >> list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAPamLv-93rtJ1YQ30mjLZ%3DvZvu1Rz7O6U1wSR4bd-8dfMvgviw%40mail.gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/3E539A28-D6BD-460A-8ECA-F58A657289C0%40gmail.com. > -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAPamLv8qND-%2BObdDK5w5%3DuHuPBKW2LdnOWudej2EncHdOjAKkA%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: need help testing a page for accessibility
Hello, Have you gone into the settings app, general, accessibility, VoiceOver, verbosity and checked to make sure all of the verbosity levels are set to on for tables? This is where I would start. If I’m not mistaken there should also be a rotor option for tables. I don’t utilize this feature but it might only be to find tables on the page. I honestly don’t remember. Ed W. > On Jul 10, 2019, at 3:43 PM, Donald Raikes wrote: > > Hello all you VoiceOver experts: > > I am trying to understand how VoiceOver should behave when working > with html tables. > > I know that with JAWS, when I use the table navigation keystrokes that > JAWS will read the row/column headers plus the coordinate and data > cell contents. > > When I use VoiceOver, all I am getting is the cell coordinates and > cell contents not the row and column headers. > > What I do: > using the rotor, I jump to the table, then set the rotor to vertical > navigation. If I flick right or left I get the cell coordinate and its > contents but no header information. Same thing happens if I flick > up/down. > > Is there something I am doing wrong, or is this a limitation of VoiceOver? > > Test URL: > https://donraikes.github.io/AccJet/?root=module3&mod3=table > > Thanks in advance for any help. > > Donald Raikes > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAPamLv-93rtJ1YQ30mjLZ%3DvZvu1Rz7O6U1wSR4bd-8dfMvgviw%40mail.gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/3E539A28-D6BD-460A-8ECA-F58A657289C0%40gmail.com.
need help testing a page for accessibility
Hello all you VoiceOver experts: I am trying to understand how VoiceOver should behave when working with html tables. I know that with JAWS, when I use the table navigation keystrokes that JAWS will read the row/column headers plus the coordinate and data cell contents. When I use VoiceOver, all I am getting is the cell coordinates and cell contents not the row and column headers. What I do: using the rotor, I jump to the table, then set the rotor to vertical navigation. If I flick right or left I get the cell coordinate and its contents but no header information. Same thing happens if I flick up/down. Is there something I am doing wrong, or is this a limitation of VoiceOver? Test URL: https://donraikes.github.io/AccJet/?root=module3&mod3=table Thanks in advance for any help. Donald Raikes -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAPamLv-93rtJ1YQ30mjLZ%3DvZvu1Rz7O6U1wSR4bd-8dfMvgviw%40mail.gmail.com.
