RE: voiceover going off

[Sieghard Weitzel]

iOS 9 works on the 5S and also the 4S. Actually, Apple has made some very good 
speed/responsiveness improvements for the 4S with the latest 9.2.1 update. I 
definitely am also a believer that one should upgrade especially at this point 
where iOS 9.2.1 has dealt with most of the bugs. Of course at this point one 
might as well wait until the week of March 21 when Apple will release iOS 9.3.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 1:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: voiceover going off

Because it still works, usually.  My 5S didn't get past 8.something either...  
might be the 4s now I think about it, but while it works, I just let it.

BobH.
- Original Message -
From: "Alex Stone" <alex.st...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: voiceover going off


Paul, possibly because you're using a version of ios that became obsolete some 
time in the 1950's, why would you insist on using 
such an old version?

> On 06/12/2015 01:06, Paul Roberts wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Quite a while since i've posted on here but this is due to on-going email 
> issues on my main PC.
>
> Anyway, I currently use an Iphone 5S and currently ruhning IOS8.3.
>
> Since I bought my phone back in March 2014, I have had occasions when 
> Voiceover for some reason, stops talking and the only way to 
> get it back is usually to plug it in and after a time, Voiceover is back to 
> normal. this hapend recently when at a concert in 
> Liverpool, Voicever wouldn't talk and so when I got home and plugged it in, 
> it was fine after a few minutes.
>
> A fortnight ago I was staying near Preston and whilst on the train up, I 
> checked for mesages and had sevearl which I decided to 
> read later on when I arrived. I locked my phone and then an hour or so later, 
> I decided to read those mesages, plus send sevearl 
> Emails.
>
> well, Voiceover didn't work and even plugging in didn't make any differenc.
>
> I got a member of hotel staff to come up so they could ring my Iphone to see 
> if it would activate but when I asked if the phone 
> was on, they said it was and that it was ready to unlock.
>
> Well I got them to unlock but of course had to get them to enter my pass 
> code. As the screen looked normal, I got them to go to 
> settings, general, accessibility and then tap on voiceover.
>
> Once done, Voiceover was back to normal and on checking the tripple tap of 
> the home keky, that was stil working.
>
> This is the first time i've had to actually switch voicever back on after a 
> glitch and am somewhat baffled as to how this hapend 
> in the first place.
>
> The other thing is that these sorts of glitches tend to happen, either when 
> i'm say in work, or out locally or away in another 
> area and so I'm wondering if there's something in settings which I need to 
> look at and possibly change, so as to stop such 
> glitches from happening.
>
> any thoughts on the above would be most welcome.
>
> Regards
>
> Paul.
>
>
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Re: voiceover going off

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

Coo, I didn't notice that either, how did it take so long to get here?
- Original Message - 
From: "Richard Turner" <richardturne...@outlook.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: voiceover going off


Alex,
Is there a reason you are replying to a message written 9 months ago?
Paul's message header says:On 06/12/2015 01:06, Paul Roberts wrote:
Richard


(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

> On Mar 13, 2016, at 3:51 AM, Alex Stone <alex.st...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Paul, possibly because you're using a version of ios that became obsolete 
> some time in the 1950's, why would you insist on using 
> such an old version?
>
>> On 06/12/2015 01:06, Paul Roberts wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Quite a while since i've posted on here but this is due to on-going email 
>> issues on my main PC.
>>
>> Anyway, I currently use an Iphone 5S and currently ruhning IOS8.3.
>>
>> Since I bought my phone back in March 2014, I have had occasions when 
>> Voiceover for some reason, stops talking and the only way 
>> to get it back is usually to plug it in and after a time, Voiceover is back 
>> to normal. this hapend recently when at a concert in 
>> Liverpool, Voicever wouldn't talk and so when I got home and plugged it in, 
>> it was fine after a few minutes.
>>
>> A fortnight ago I was staying near Preston and whilst on the train up, I 
>> checked for mesages and had sevearl which I decided to 
>> read later on when I arrived. I locked my phone and then an hour or so 
>> later, I decided to read those mesages, plus send sevearl 
>> Emails.
>>
>> well, Voiceover didn't work and even plugging in didn't make any differenc.
>>
>> I got a member of hotel staff to come up so they could ring my Iphone to see 
>> if it would activate but when I asked if the phone 
>> was on, they said it was and that it was ready to unlock.
>>
>> Well I got them to unlock but of course had to get them to enter my pass 
>> code. As the screen looked normal, I got them to go to 
>> settings, general, accessibility and then tap on voiceover.
>>
>> Once done, Voiceover was back to normal and on checking the tripple tap of 
>> the home keky, that was stil working.
>>
>> This is the first time i've had to actually switch voicever back on after a 
>> glitch and am somewhat baffled as to how this hapend 
>> in the first place.
>>
>> The other thing is that these sorts of glitches tend to happen, either when 
>> i'm say in work, or out locally or away in another 
>> area and so I'm wondering if there's something in settings which I need to 
>> look at and possibly change, so as to stop such 
>> glitches from happening.
>>
>> any thoughts on the above would be most welcome.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Paul.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: voiceover going off

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

Because it still works, usually.  My 5S didn't get past 8.something either...  
might be the 4s now I think about it, but while it 
works, I just let it.

BobH.
- Original Message - 
From: "Alex Stone" <alex.st...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: voiceover going off


Paul, possibly because you're using a version of ios that became obsolete some 
time in the 1950's, why would you insist on using 
such an old version?

> On 06/12/2015 01:06, Paul Roberts wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Quite a while since i've posted on here but this is due to on-going email 
> issues on my main PC.
>
> Anyway, I currently use an Iphone 5S and currently ruhning IOS8.3.
>
> Since I bought my phone back in March 2014, I have had occasions when 
> Voiceover for some reason, stops talking and the only way to 
> get it back is usually to plug it in and after a time, Voiceover is back to 
> normal. this hapend recently when at a concert in 
> Liverpool, Voicever wouldn't talk and so when I got home and plugged it in, 
> it was fine after a few minutes.
>
> A fortnight ago I was staying near Preston and whilst on the train up, I 
> checked for mesages and had sevearl which I decided to 
> read later on when I arrived. I locked my phone and then an hour or so later, 
> I decided to read those mesages, plus send sevearl 
> Emails.
>
> well, Voiceover didn't work and even plugging in didn't make any differenc.
>
> I got a member of hotel staff to come up so they could ring my Iphone to see 
> if it would activate but when I asked if the phone 
> was on, they said it was and that it was ready to unlock.
>
> Well I got them to unlock but of course had to get them to enter my pass 
> code. As the screen looked normal, I got them to go to 
> settings, general, accessibility and then tap on voiceover.
>
> Once done, Voiceover was back to normal and on checking the tripple tap of 
> the home keky, that was stil working.
>
> This is the first time i've had to actually switch voicever back on after a 
> glitch and am somewhat baffled as to how this hapend 
> in the first place.
>
> The other thing is that these sorts of glitches tend to happen, either when 
> i'm say in work, or out locally or away in another 
> area and so I'm wondering if there's something in settings which I need to 
> look at and possibly change, so as to stop such 
> glitches from happening.
>
> any thoughts on the above would be most welcome.
>
> Regards
>
> Paul.
>
>
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Re: voiceover going off

[Rajmund]

Hello,
In UK date, it is the 6th of December, but even then, it is 3 months old, and I 
think that 50s comment was a little uncalled for. 



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner  <richardturne...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 13, 2016 1:08 pm
Subject: Re: voiceover going off

>
>
> Alex,
> Is there a reason you are replying to a message written 9 months ago?
> Paul's message header says:On 06/12/2015 01:06, Paul Roberts wrote: 
> Richard
> 
> 
> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
> 
> > On Mar 13, 2016, at 3:51 AM, Alex Stone <alex.st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Paul, possibly because you're using a version of ios that became obsolete 
> > some time in the 1950's, why would you insist on using such an old version?
> > 
> >> On 06/12/2015 01:06, Paul Roberts wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>  
> >> Quite a while since i've posted on here but this is due to on-going email 
> >> issues on my main PC.
> >>  
> >> Anyway, I currently use an Iphone 5S and currently ruhning IOS8.3.
> >>  
> >> Since I bought my phone back in March 2014, I have had occasions when 
> >> Voiceover for some reason, stops talking and the only way to get it back 
> >> is usually to plug it in and after a time, Voiceover is back to normal. 
> >> this hapend recently when at a concert in Liverpool, Voicever wouldn't 
> >> talk and so when I got home and plugged it in, it was fine after a few 
> >> minutes.
> >>  
> >> A fortnight ago I was staying near Preston and whilst on the train up, I 
> >> checked for mesages and had sevearl which I decided to read later on when 
> >> I arrived. I locked my phone and then an hour or so later, I decided to 
> >> read those mesages, plus send sevearl Emails.
> >>  
> >> well, Voiceover didn't work and even plugging in didn't make any differenc.
> >>  
> >> I got a member of hotel staff to come up so they could ring my Iphone to 
> >> see if it would activate but when I asked if the phone was on, they said 
> >> it was and that it was ready to unlock.
> >>  
> >> Well I got them to unlock but of course had to get them to enter my pass 
> >> code. As the screen looked normal, I got them to go to settings, general, 
> >> accessibility and then tap on voiceover.
> >>  
> >> Once done, Voiceover was back to normal and on checking the tripple tap of 
> >> the home keky, that was stil working.
> >>  
> >> This is the first time i've had to actually switch voicever back on after 
> >> a glitch and am somewhat baffled as to how this hapend in the first place..
> >>  
> >> The other thing is that these sorts of glitches tend to happen, either 
> >> when i'm say in work, or out locally or away in another area and so I'm 
> >> wondering if there's something in settings which I need to look at and 
> >> possibly change, so as to stop such glitches from happening.
> >>  
> >> any thoughts on the above would be most welcome.
> >>  
> >> Regards
> >>  
> >> Paul.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
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Re: voiceover going off

[Gerardo Corripio]

Take the plunge and updste! Good luck!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 4S

> El 13/03/2016, a las 4:51 a.m., Alex Stone  escribió:
> 
> Paul, possibly because you're using a version of ios that became obsolete 
> some time in the 1950's, why would you insist on using such an old version?
> 
>> On 06/12/2015 01:06, Paul Roberts wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>  
>> Quite a while since i've posted on here but this is due to on-going email 
>> issues on my main PC.
>>  
>> Anyway, I currently use an Iphone 5S and currently ruhning IOS8.3.
>>  
>> Since I bought my phone back in March 2014, I have had occasions when 
>> Voiceover for some reason, stops talking and the only way to get it back is 
>> usually to plug it in and after a time, Voiceover is back to normal. this 
>> hapend recently when at a concert in Liverpool, Voicever wouldn't talk and 
>> so when I got home and plugged it in, it was fine after a few minutes.
>>  
>> A fortnight ago I was staying near Preston and whilst on the train up, I 
>> checked for mesages and had sevearl which I decided to read later on when I 
>> arrived. I locked my phone and then an hour or so later, I decided to read 
>> those mesages, plus send sevearl Emails.
>>  
>> well, Voiceover didn't work and even plugging in didn't make any differenc.
>>  
>> I got a member of hotel staff to come up so they could ring my Iphone to see 
>> if it would activate but when I asked if the phone was on, they said it was 
>> and that it was ready to unlock.
>>  
>> Well I got them to unlock but of course had to get them to enter my pass 
>> code. As the screen looked normal, I got them to go to settings, general, 
>> accessibility and then tap on voiceover.
>>  
>> Once done, Voiceover was back to normal and on checking the tripple tap of 
>> the home keky, that was stil working.
>>  
>> This is the first time i've had to actually switch voicever back on after a 
>> glitch and am somewhat baffled as to how this hapend in the first place.
>>  
>> The other thing is that these sorts of glitches tend to happen, either when 
>> i'm say in work, or out locally or away in another area and so I'm wondering 
>> if there's something in settings which I need to look at and possibly 
>> change, so as to stop such glitches from happening.
>>  
>> any thoughts on the above would be most welcome.
>>  
>> Regards
>>  
>> Paul.
>> 
>> 
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Re: voiceover going off

[Richard Turner]

Alex,
Is there a reason you are replying to a message written 9 months ago?
Paul's message header says:On 06/12/2015 01:06, Paul Roberts wrote: 
Richard


(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

> On Mar 13, 2016, at 3:51 AM, Alex Stone  wrote:
> 
> Paul, possibly because you're using a version of ios that became obsolete 
> some time in the 1950's, why would you insist on using such an old version?
> 
>> On 06/12/2015 01:06, Paul Roberts wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>  
>> Quite a while since i've posted on here but this is due to on-going email 
>> issues on my main PC.
>>  
>> Anyway, I currently use an Iphone 5S and currently ruhning IOS8.3.
>>  
>> Since I bought my phone back in March 2014, I have had occasions when 
>> Voiceover for some reason, stops talking and the only way to get it back is 
>> usually to plug it in and after a time, Voiceover is back to normal. this 
>> hapend recently when at a concert in Liverpool, Voicever wouldn't talk and 
>> so when I got home and plugged it in, it was fine after a few minutes.
>>  
>> A fortnight ago I was staying near Preston and whilst on the train up, I 
>> checked for mesages and had sevearl which I decided to read later on when I 
>> arrived. I locked my phone and then an hour or so later, I decided to read 
>> those mesages, plus send sevearl Emails.
>>  
>> well, Voiceover didn't work and even plugging in didn't make any differenc.
>>  
>> I got a member of hotel staff to come up so they could ring my Iphone to see 
>> if it would activate but when I asked if the phone was on, they said it was 
>> and that it was ready to unlock.
>>  
>> Well I got them to unlock but of course had to get them to enter my pass 
>> code. As the screen looked normal, I got them to go to settings, general, 
>> accessibility and then tap on voiceover.
>>  
>> Once done, Voiceover was back to normal and on checking the tripple tap of 
>> the home keky, that was stil working.
>>  
>> This is the first time i've had to actually switch voicever back on after a 
>> glitch and am somewhat baffled as to how this hapend in the first place.
>>  
>> The other thing is that these sorts of glitches tend to happen, either when 
>> i'm say in work, or out locally or away in another area and so I'm wondering 
>> if there's something in settings which I need to look at and possibly 
>> change, so as to stop such glitches from happening.
>>  
>> any thoughts on the above would be most welcome.
>>  
>> Regards
>>  
>> Paul.
>> 
>> 
>>  
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Re: voiceover going off

[Alex Stone]

Paul, possibly because you're using a version of ios that became obsolete some 
time in the 1950's, why would you insist on using such an old version?

> On 06/12/2015 01:06, Paul Roberts wrote:
> Hi all,
>  
> Quite a while since i've posted on here but this is due to on-going email 
> issues on my main PC.
>  
> Anyway, I currently use an Iphone 5S and currently ruhning IOS8.3.
>  
> Since I bought my phone back in March 2014, I have had occasions when 
> Voiceover for some reason, stops talking and the only way to get it back is 
> usually to plug it in and after a time, Voiceover is back to normal. this 
> hapend recently when at a concert in Liverpool, Voicever wouldn't talk and so 
> when I got home and plugged it in, it was fine after a few minutes.
>  
> A fortnight ago I was staying near Preston and whilst on the train up, I 
> checked for mesages and had sevearl which I decided to read later on when I 
> arrived. I locked my phone and then an hour or so later, I decided to read 
> those mesages, plus send sevearl Emails.
>  
> well, Voiceover didn't work and even plugging in didn't make any differenc.
>  
> I got a member of hotel staff to come up so they could ring my Iphone to see 
> if it would activate but when I asked if the phone was on, they said it was 
> and that it was ready to unlock.
>  
> Well I got them to unlock but of course had to get them to enter my pass 
> code. As the screen looked normal, I got them to go to settings, general, 
> accessibility and then tap on voiceover.
>  
> Once done, Voiceover was back to normal and on checking the tripple tap of 
> the home keky, that was stil working.
>  
> This is the first time i've had to actually switch voicever back on after a 
> glitch and am somewhat baffled as to how this hapend in the first place.
>  
> The other thing is that these sorts of glitches tend to happen, either when 
> i'm say in work, or out locally or away in another area and so I'm wondering 
> if there's something in settings which I need to look at and possibly change, 
> so as to stop such glitches from happening.
>  
> any thoughts on the above would be most welcome.
>  
> Regards
>  
> Paul.
> 
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Re: voiceover going off

[Jenifer Barr]

I actually have had the same problem with my iPhone 6s and 9.1. I have to hold 
the home and lock buttons to reset it. Nothing else works. I can't turn my 
phone off... pressing the lock button 6 times doesn't work either. 

Jen Barr
Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 5, 2015, at 10:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> Hi Paul,
>  
> Is it possible that you experience a situation where Voiceover volume drops 
> all the way down to zero and while you think Voiceover is not running it is 
> in fact working fine but there is just no volume? One way to check this is to 
> plug in a headset when this happens. Headset volume is separate from speaker 
> volume and in many cases when this happens and speaker volume drops to 0 
> headset volume is still up and you can hear Voiceover just fine as soon as 
> you plug in a headset.
>  
> Alternatively, you can press the home button to display the lock screen, then 
> do a 2-finger swipe up which starts reading the lock screen and right away 
> after you do the swipe press the volume up button multiple times. If it is a 
> volume issue this should start raising the volume to where you can hear it 
> again.
>  
> If it is not a volume issue, then doing a hard reset by pressing the power 
> button together with the home button for about 8 seconds may get you back up 
> and running without sighted help.
>  
> I also would suggest that you upgrade to the latest version of iOS 9. Even 
> the 8.4.x series of updates resolved several Voiceover bugs if I remember 
> correctly. You may of course have your own reason why you continue to run 
> 8.3, but while there are still bugs, iOS 9.1 now (less than 3 months after 
> the first release of iOS 9) is in my opinion better than any version of iOS 8 
> ever was. I expect 9.2 to be released publically any time now, they pushed 
> out betas for iOS 9.2 almost once a week and I think 9.2 is now up to Beta 5, 
> but there hasn’t been a new beta in 2 weeks or so and I wouldn’t be surprised 
> if we saw the public release of 9.2 next week.
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> secones
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Paul Roberts
> Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2015 5:07 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: voiceover going off
>  
> Hi all,
>  
> Quite a while since i've posted on here but this is due to on-going email 
> issues on my main PC.
>  
> Anyway, I currently use an Iphone 5S and currently ruhning IOS8.3.
>  
> Since I bought my phone back in March 2014, I have had occasions when 
> Voiceover for some reason, stops talking and the only way to get it back is 
> usually to plug it in and after a time, Voiceover is back to normal. this 
> hapend recently when at a concert in Liverpool, Voicever wouldn't talk and so 
> when I got home and plugged it in, it was fine after a few minutes.
>  
> A fortnight ago I was staying near Preston and whilst on the train up, I 
> checked for mesages and had sevearl which I decided to read later on when I 
> arrived. I locked my phone and then an hour or so later, I decided to read 
> those mesages, plus send sevearl Emails.
>  
> well, Voiceover didn't work and even plugging in didn't make any differenc.
>  
> I got a member of hotel staff to come up so they could ring my Iphone to see 
> if it would activate but when I asked if the phone was on, they said it was 
> and that it was ready to unlock.
>  
> Well I got them to unlock but of course had to get them to enter my pass 
> code. As the screen looked normal, I got them to go to settings, general, 
> accessibility and then tap on voiceover.
>  
> Once done, Voiceover was back to normal and on checking the tripple tap of 
> the home keky, that was stil working.
>  
> This is the first time i've had to actually switch voicever back on after a 
> glitch and am somewhat baffled as to how this hapend in the first place.
>  
> The other thing is that these sorts of glitches tend to happen, either when 
> i'm say in work, or out locally or away in another area and so I'm wondering 
> if there's something in settings which I need to look at and possibly change, 
> so as to stop such glitches from happening.
>  
> any thoughts on the above would be most welcome.
>  
> Regards
>  
> Paul.
>  
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RE: voiceover going off

[Paul Roberts]

Hi Sieghard and thanks for your helpful mesage.
 
Not sure that the volume was or has been the issue when this problem has 
arisen, however your second suggestion sounds worth looking at.
 
The only reason I never upgrade when the new IOS comes in as there seems to be 
so many bugs and I only updated to 8.3, once the initial version 8 bugs had 
been ironed out.
 
I had thought version 9.2 had come out but wil updae I htink within the next 
week or so.
 
Thanks again for your help.
 
Paul.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 06 December 2015 03:59
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: voiceover going off
 
Hi Paul,
 
Is it possible that you experience a situation where Voiceover volume drops all 
the way down to zero and while you think Voiceover is not running it is in fact 
working fine but there is just no volume? One way to check this is to plug in a 
headset when this happens. Headset volume is separate from speaker volume and 
in many cases when this happens and speaker volume drops to 0 headset volume is 
still up and you can hear Voiceover just fine as soon as you plug in a headset.
 
Alternatively, you can press the home button to display the lock screen, then 
do a 2-finger swipe up which starts reading the lock screen and right away 
after you do the swipe press the volume up button multiple times. If it is a 
volume issue this should start raising the volume to where you can hear it 
again.
 
If it is not a volume issue, then doing a hard reset by pressing the power 
button together with the home button for about 8 seconds may get you back up 
and running without sighted help.
 
I also would suggest that you upgrade to the latest version of iOS 9. Even the 
8.4.x series of updates resolved several Voiceover bugs if I remember 
correctly. You may of course have your own reason why you continue to run 8.3, 
but while there are still bugs, iOS 9.1 now (less than 3 months after the first 
release of iOS 9) is in my opinion better than any version of iOS 8 ever was. I 
expect 9.2 to be released publically any time now, they pushed out betas for 
iOS 9.2 almost once a week and I think 9.2 is now up to Beta 5, but there 
hasn’t been a new beta in 2 weeks or so and I wouldn’t be surprised if we saw 
the public release of 9.2 next week.
 
 
Regards,
Sieghard
 
secones 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Paul Roberts
Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2015 5:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: voiceover going off
 
Hi all,
 
Quite a while since i've posted on here but this is due to on-going email 
issues on my main PC.
 
Anyway, I currently use an Iphone 5S and currently ruhning IOS8.3.
 
Since I bought my phone back in March 2014, I have had occasions when Voiceover 
for some reason, stops talking and the only way to get it back is usually to 
plug it in and after a time, Voiceover is back to normal. this hapend recently 
when at a concert in Liverpool, Voicever wouldn't talk and so when I got home 
and plugged it in, it was fine after a few minutes. 
 
A fortnight ago I was staying near Preston and whilst on the train up, I 
checked for mesages and had sevearl which I decided to read later on when I 
arrived. I locked my phone and then an hour or so later, I decided to read 
those mesages, plus send sevearl Emails.
 
well, Voiceover didn't work and even plugging in didn't make any differenc. 
 
I got a member of hotel staff to come up so they could ring my Iphone to see if 
it would activate but when I asked if the phone was on, they said it was and 
that it was ready to unlock.
 
Well I got them to unlock but of course had to get them to enter my pass code. 
As the screen looked normal, I got them to go to settings, general, 
accessibility and then tap on voiceover.
 
Once done, Voiceover was back to normal and on checking the tripple tap of the 
home keky, that was stil working.
 
This is the first time i've had to actually switch voicever back on after a 
glitch and am somewhat baffled as to how this hapend in the first place.
 
The other thing is that these sorts of glitches tend to happen, either when i'm 
say in work, or out locally or away in another area and so I'm wondering if 
there's something in settings which I need to look at and possibly change, so 
as to stop such glitches from happening.
 
any thoughts on the above would be most welcome.
 
Regards 
 
Paul. 
 
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Re: voiceover going off

[Arnold Schmidt]

When voice over goes off, have you tried the three-finger double tap to see if 
it comes back on?  If it comes back on and says speech on, somehow, it 
interpreted something you did as a three-finger double tap  and turned itself 
off.  You can do this three-finger double tap, on purpose, and it will say 
either speech off, or on, depending.  The only time I use it now is when I am 
wanting to do a voice search in the updated google search app.  For whatever 
reason, after I say hey google and am asking it something, Voice Over sometimes 
says cancel button and confuses google.  If I do the three-finger double tap to 
turn off voice over before I say hey google, then things are fine.  

Arnold Schmidt
  - Original Message - 
  From: Paul Roberts 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2015 8:06 PM
  Subject: voiceover going off


  Hi all,

   

  Quite a while since i've posted on here but this is due to on-going email 
issues on my main PC.

   

  Anyway, I currently use an Iphone 5S and currently ruhning IOS8.3.

   

  Since I bought my phone back in March 2014, I have had occasions when 
Voiceover for some reason, stops talking and the only way to get it back is 
usually to plug it in and after a time, Voiceover is back to normal. this 
hapend recently when at a concert in Liverpool, Voicever wouldn't talk and so 
when I got home and plugged it in, it was fine after a few minutes. 

   

  A fortnight ago I was staying near Preston and whilst on the train up, I 
checked for mesages and had sevearl which I decided to read later on when I 
arrived. I locked my phone and then an hour or so later, I decided to read 
those mesages, plus send sevearl Emails.

   

  well, Voiceover didn't work and even plugging in didn't make any differenc. 

   

  I got a member of hotel staff to come up so they could ring my Iphone to see 
if it would activate but when I asked if the phone was on, they said it was and 
that it was ready to unlock.

   

  Well I got them to unlock but of course had to get them to enter my pass 
code. As the screen looked normal, I got them to go to settings, general, 
accessibility and then tap on voiceover.

   

  Once done, Voiceover was back to normal and on checking the tripple tap of 
the home keky, that was stil working.

   

  This is the first time i've had to actually switch voicever back on after a 
glitch and am somewhat baffled as to how this hapend in the first place.

   

  The other thing is that these sorts of glitches tend to happen, either when 
i'm say in work, or out locally or away in another area and so I'm wondering if 
there's something in settings which I need to look at and possibly change, so 
as to stop such glitches from happening.

   

  any thoughts on the above would be most welcome.

   

  Regards 

   

  Paul. 




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Re: voiceover going off

[Gary Petraccaro]

I had a similar problem to Paul's and I needed to do a restore which cured the 
problem.  The Apple Access people talked me through that.  Things have worked 
fine ever since.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jenifer Barr 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 6:49 AM
  Subject: Re: voiceover going off


  I actually have had the same problem with my iPhone 6s and 9.1. I have to 
hold the home and lock buttons to reset it. Nothing else works. I can't turn my 
phone off... pressing the lock button 6 times doesn't work either. 

  Jen Barr
  Sent from my iPhone

  On Dec 5, 2015, at 10:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:


Hi Paul,



Is it possible that you experience a situation where Voiceover volume drops 
all the way down to zero and while you think Voiceover is not running it is in 
fact working fine but there is just no volume? One way to check this is to plug 
in a headset when this happens. Headset volume is separate from speaker volume 
and in many cases when this happens and speaker volume drops to 0 headset 
volume is still up and you can hear Voiceover just fine as soon as you plug in 
a headset.



Alternatively, you can press the home button to display the lock screen, 
then do a 2-finger swipe up which starts reading the lock screen and right away 
after you do the swipe press the volume up button multiple times. If it is a 
volume issue this should start raising the volume to where you can hear it 
again.



If it is not a volume issue, then doing a hard reset by pressing the power 
button together with the home button for about 8 seconds may get you back up 
and running without sighted help.



I also would suggest that you upgrade to the latest version of iOS 9. Even 
the 8.4.x series of updates resolved several Voiceover bugs if I remember 
correctly. You may of course have your own reason why you continue to run 8.3, 
but while there are still bugs, iOS 9.1 now (less than 3 months after the first 
release of iOS 9) is in my opinion better than any version of iOS 8 ever was. I 
expect 9.2 to be released publically any time now, they pushed out betas for 
iOS 9.2 almost once a week and I think 9.2 is now up to Beta 5, but there 
hasn’t been a new beta in 2 weeks or so and I wouldn’t be surprised if we saw 
the public release of 9.2 next week.





Regards,

Sieghard



secones 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Paul Roberts
Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2015 5:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: voiceover going off



Hi all,



Quite a while since i've posted on here but this is due to on-going email 
issues on my main PC.



Anyway, I currently use an Iphone 5S and currently ruhning IOS8.3.



Since I bought my phone back in March 2014, I have had occasions when 
Voiceover for some reason, stops talking and the only way to get it back is 
usually to plug it in and after a time, Voiceover is back to normal. this 
hapend recently when at a concert in Liverpool, Voicever wouldn't talk and so 
when I got home and plugged it in, it was fine after a few minutes. 



A fortnight ago I was staying near Preston and whilst on the train up, I 
checked for mesages and had sevearl which I decided to read later on when I 
arrived. I locked my phone and then an hour or so later, I decided to read 
those mesages, plus send sevearl Emails.



well, Voiceover didn't work and even plugging in didn't make any differenc. 



I got a member of hotel staff to come up so they could ring my Iphone to 
see if it would activate but when I asked if the phone was on, they said it was 
and that it was ready to unlock.



Well I got them to unlock but of course had to get them to enter my pass 
code. As the screen looked normal, I got them to go to settings, general, 
accessibility and then tap on voiceover.



Once done, Voiceover was back to normal and on checking the tripple tap of 
the home keky, that was stil working.



This is the first time i've had to actually switch voicever back on after a 
glitch and am somewhat baffled as to how this hapend in the first place.



The other thing is that these sorts of glitches tend to happen, either when 
i'm say in work, or out locally or away in another area and so I'm wondering if 
there's something in settings which I need to look at and possibly change, so 
as to stop such glitches from happening.



any thoughts on the above would be most welcome.



Regards 



Paul. 






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voiceover going off

[Paul Roberts]

Hi all,
 
Quite a while since i've posted on here but this is due to on-going email
issues on my main PC.
 
Anyway, I currently use an Iphone 5S and currently ruhning IOS8.3.
 
Since I bought my phone back in March 2014, I have had occasions when
Voiceover for some reason, stops talking and the only way to get it back is
usually to plug it in and after a time, Voiceover is back to normal. this
hapend recently when at a concert in Liverpool, Voicever wouldn't talk and
so when I got home and plugged it in, it was fine after a few minutes. 
 
A fortnight ago I was staying near Preston and whilst on the train up, I
checked for mesages and had sevearl which I decided to read later on when I
arrived. I locked my phone and then an hour or so later, I decided to read
those mesages, plus send sevearl Emails.
 
well, Voiceover didn't work and even plugging in didn't make any differenc. 
 
I got a member of hotel staff to come up so they could ring my Iphone to see
if it would activate but when I asked if the phone was on, they said it was
and that it was ready to unlock.
 
Well I got them to unlock but of course had to get them to enter my pass
code. As the screen looked normal, I got them to go to settings, general,
accessibility and then tap on voiceover.
 
Once done, Voiceover was back to normal and on checking the tripple tap of
the home keky, that was stil working.
 
This is the first time i've had to actually switch voicever back on after a
glitch and am somewhat baffled as to how this hapend in the first place.
 
The other thing is that these sorts of glitches tend to happen, either when
i'm say in work, or out locally or away in another area and so I'm wondering
if there's something in settings which I need to look at and possibly
change, so as to stop such glitches from happening.
 
any thoughts on the above would be most welcome.
 
Regards 
 
Paul. 


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Re: voiceover going off

[Alex Stone]

Paul, possibly because you're using a version of ios that became 
obsolete some time in the 1950's, why would you insist on using such an 
old version?


On 06/12/2015 01:06, Paul Roberts wrote:


Hi all,

Quite a while since i've posted on here but this is due to on-going 
email issues on my main PC.


Anyway, I currently use an Iphone 5S and currently ruhning IOS8.3.

Since I bought my phone back in March 2014, I have had occasions when 
Voiceover for some reason, stops talking and the only way to get it 
back is usually to plug it in and after a time, Voiceover is back to 
normal. this hapend recently when at a concert in Liverpool, Voicever 
wouldn't talk and so when I got home and plugged it in, it was fine 
after a few minutes.


A fortnight ago I was staying near Preston and whilst on the train up, 
I checked for mesages and had sevearl which I decided to read later on 
when I arrived. I locked my phone and then an hour or so later, I 
decided to read those mesages, plus send sevearl Emails.


well, Voiceover didn't work and even plugging in didn't make any 
differenc.


I got a member of hotel staff to come up so they could ring my Iphone 
to see if it would activate but when I asked if the phone was on, they 
said it was and that it was ready to unlock.


Well I got them to unlock but of course had to get them to enter my 
pass code. As the screen looked normal, I got them to go to settings, 
general, accessibility and then tap on voiceover.


Once done, Voiceover was back to normal and on checking the tripple 
tap of the home keky, that was stil working.


This is the first time i've had to actually switch voicever back on 
after a glitch and am somewhat baffled as to how this hapend in the 
first place.


The other thing is that these sorts of glitches tend to happen, either 
when i'm say in work, or out locally or away in another area and so 
I'm wondering if there's something in settings which I need to look at 
and possibly change, so as to stop such glitches from happening.


any thoughts on the above would be most welcome.

Regards

Paul.




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RE: voiceover going off

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Paul,

 

Is it possible that you experience a situation where Voiceover volume drops all 
the way down to zero and while you think Voiceover is not running it is in fact 
working fine but there is just no volume? One way to check this is to plug in a 
headset when this happens. Headset volume is separate from speaker volume and 
in many cases when this happens and speaker volume drops to 0 headset volume is 
still up and you can hear Voiceover just fine as soon as you plug in a headset.

 

Alternatively, you can press the home button to display the lock screen, then 
do a 2-finger swipe up which starts reading the lock screen and right away 
after you do the swipe press the volume up button multiple times. If it is a 
volume issue this should start raising the volume to where you can hear it 
again.

 

If it is not a volume issue, then doing a hard reset by pressing the power 
button together with the home button for about 8 seconds may get you back up 
and running without sighted help.

 

I also would suggest that you upgrade to the latest version of iOS 9. Even the 
8.4.x series of updates resolved several Voiceover bugs if I remember 
correctly. You may of course have your own reason why you continue to run 8.3, 
but while there are still bugs, iOS 9.1 now (less than 3 months after the first 
release of iOS 9) is in my opinion better than any version of iOS 8 ever was. I 
expect 9.2 to be released publically any time now, they pushed out betas for 
iOS 9.2 almost once a week and I think 9.2 is now up to Beta 5, but there 
hasn’t been a new beta in 2 weeks or so and I wouldn’t be surprised if we saw 
the public release of 9.2 next week.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

secones 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Paul Roberts
Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2015 5:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: voiceover going off

 

Hi all,

 

Quite a while since i've posted on here but this is due to on-going email 
issues on my main PC.

 

Anyway, I currently use an Iphone 5S and currently ruhning IOS8.3.

 

Since I bought my phone back in March 2014, I have had occasions when Voiceover 
for some reason, stops talking and the only way to get it back is usually to 
plug it in and after a time, Voiceover is back to normal. this hapend recently 
when at a concert in Liverpool, Voicever wouldn't talk and so when I got home 
and plugged it in, it was fine after a few minutes. 

 

A fortnight ago I was staying near Preston and whilst on the train up, I 
checked for mesages and had sevearl which I decided to read later on when I 
arrived. I locked my phone and then an hour or so later, I decided to read 
those mesages, plus send sevearl Emails.

 

well, Voiceover didn't work and even plugging in didn't make any differenc. 

 

I got a member of hotel staff to come up so they could ring my Iphone to see if 
it would activate but when I asked if the phone was on, they said it was and 
that it was ready to unlock.

 

Well I got them to unlock but of course had to get them to enter my pass code. 
As the screen looked normal, I got them to go to settings, general, 
accessibility and then tap on voiceover.

 

Once done, Voiceover was back to normal and on checking the tripple tap of the 
home keky, that was stil working.

 

This is the first time i've had to actually switch voicever back on after a 
glitch and am somewhat baffled as to how this hapend in the first place.

 

The other thing is that these sorts of glitches tend to happen, either when i'm 
say in work, or out locally or away in another area and so I'm wondering if 
there's something in settings which I need to look at and possibly change, so 
as to stop such glitches from happening.

 

any thoughts on the above would be most welcome.

 

Regards 

 

Paul. 

 

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