vnc 4.0, NAT, connection reset

2004-01-02 Thread Sertar Yalciner
Hi,
I have spent two days searching the net but could not
get my scenario work. Any help will be greatly
appreciated.

- I have vnc4 listening port 9000 on win2k
- my dsl modem translates the port 21 to port 9000 on
internal vnc server
- when i telnet to port 21 on dsl modem i get the rfb
message, so nat is working

- when I run the viewer like mydslip::21 (vnc4 allows
this) I get a connection reset by peer message.
- When I put a secndary laptop to ibternal net and run
vnc viewer there, it works fine.

I am goin gto go crazy, please help...

thanks
oyncby

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RE: vnc 4.0, NAT, connection reset

2004-01-02 Thread Haan, Jan de
TCP vs. UDP? Thus is the port you forward set up as
a TCP port or maybe as a UDP port?

Would swap your modem for something else, e.g. rule
out the modem (or not ;-) ) as the source of the problem.

Sincerely,

Jan.

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Hi,
I have spent two days searching the net but could not
get my scenario work. Any help will be greatly
appreciated.

- I have vnc4 listening port 9000 on win2k
- my dsl modem translates the port 21 to port 9000 on
internal vnc server
- when i telnet to port 21 on dsl modem i get the rfb
message, so nat is working

- when I run the viewer like mydslip::21 (vnc4 allows
this) I get a connection reset by peer message.
- When I put a secndary laptop to ibternal net and run
vnc viewer there, it works fine.

I am goin gto go crazy, please help...

thanks
oyncby

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RE: vnc 4.0, NAT, connection reset

2004-01-02 Thread Sertar Yalciner
I set it up as TCP.
but, how would you comment on succesfully getting the
rfb 003.007 prompt against the telnet/ftp? 


--- Haan, Jan de [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 TCP vs. UDP? Thus is the port you forward set up as
 a TCP port or maybe as a UDP port?
 
 Would swap your modem for something else, e.g. rule
 out the modem (or not ;-) ) as the source of the
 problem.
 
 Sincerely,
 
 Jan.
 
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 Van: Sertar Yalciner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Verzonden: vrijdag 2 januari 2004 10:05
 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Hi,
 I have spent two days searching the net but could
 not
 get my scenario work. Any help will be greatly
 appreciated.
 
 - I have vnc4 listening port 9000 on win2k
 - my dsl modem translates the port 21 to port 9000
 on
 internal vnc server
 - when i telnet to port 21 on dsl modem i get the
 rfb
 message, so nat is working
 
 - when I run the viewer like mydslip::21 (vnc4
 allows
 this) I get a connection reset by peer message.
 - When I put a secndary laptop to ibternal net and
 run
 vnc viewer there, it works fine.
 
 I am goin gto go crazy, please help...
 
 thanks
 oyncby
 
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Re: vnc 4.0, NAT, connection reset

2004-01-02 Thread Rasjid Wilcox
On Friday 02 January 2004 20:04, Sertar Yalciner wrote:
 Hi,
 I have spent two days searching the net but could not
 get my scenario work. Any help will be greatly
 appreciated.

 - I have vnc4 listening port 9000 on win2k
 - my dsl modem translates the port 21 to port 9000 on
 internal vnc server
 - when i telnet to port 21 on dsl modem i get the rfb
 message, so nat is working

 - when I run the viewer like mydslip::21 (vnc4 allows
 this) I get a connection reset by peer message.
 - When I put a secndary laptop to ibternal net and run
 vnc viewer there, it works fine.

Port 21 is the ftp control port.  Perhaps the dsl modem/router assumes that it 
is forwarding a ftp connection, and is doing connection tracking based on the 
contents of the connection, which could then cause it to get rather confused, 
since the traffic will bear no relationship to what it expects.

Why are you using port 21?  Can you get it just to forward port 9000 (or some 
other non-special port) to your win2k box?

Cheers,

Rasjid.

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Canberra, Australia (UTC +10 hrs)
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Re: vnc 4.0, NAT, connection reset

2004-01-02 Thread Sertar Yalciner
I would like to use port 9000 on the modem but I am
also behind a NAT in the office and I am only allowed
for ftp and http. I use http for my modem's remote
mgmt and the ftp port is the only one left. In th
emean time, what you suggest seems logical (i.e.
modem's tracking of ftp flow.) I will check it also. 

thanks for the tip.
sertar


--- Rasjid Wilcox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Friday 02 January 2004 20:04, Sertar Yalciner
 wrote:
  Hi,
  I have spent two days searching the net but could
 not
  get my scenario work. Any help will be greatly
  appreciated.
 
  - I have vnc4 listening port 9000 on win2k
  - my dsl modem translates the port 21 to port 9000
 on
  internal vnc server
  - when i telnet to port 21 on dsl modem i get the
 rfb
  message, so nat is working
 
  - when I run the viewer like mydslip::21 (vnc4
 allows
  this) I get a connection reset by peer message.
  - When I put a secndary laptop to ibternal net and
 run
  vnc viewer there, it works fine.
 
 Port 21 is the ftp control port.  Perhaps the dsl
 modem/router assumes that it 
 is forwarding a ftp connection, and is doing
 connection tracking based on the 
 contents of the connection, which could then cause
 it to get rather confused, 
 since the traffic will bear no relationship to what
 it expects.
 
 Why are you using port 21?  Can you get it just to
 forward port 9000 (or some 
 other non-special port) to your win2k box?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Rasjid.
 
 -- 
 Rasjid Wilcox
 Canberra, Australia (UTC +10 hrs)
 http://www.openminddev.net


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Disabling Reg Key for DisableIcon

2004-01-02 Thread Marvin E Barnett
I have noticed that you have stated if you use the following reg key the tsr
will not show using the following:

HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunWinVNC (REG_SZ)
C:\Program Files\.\winvnc.exe -servicehelperThis works like a
charm.

I would like to go a couple of steps further.  Are there reg settings so
that this will run as a service but not show up in the services window?   I
propose the same question where the vnc.exe does not show up in the task
manager?  Has this been implemented and if so can you please let me know the
reg keys to add.

Simply setting:
HKLM\SOFTWARE\ORL\winvnc3\defaultAllowShutdown (DWORD) to 0 does not do what
I am actually asking.  I have been able to stop the service using w2k when
this value has been set to 0.
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Re: failing to connect to server

2004-01-02 Thread Scott C. Best
David:

Heya. It sounds as if your father-in-law is simply giving
you the wrong IP address. That is, it's possible he's giving you
the IP address that's valid on his network, which isn't the same
thing as the IP address that the rest of the world sees him by.
This process of IP address aliasing is called Network Address
Translation or NAT. It can be done by his PC, his modem, or even
by his ISP.
To find out if NAT'ing is going on, have him open a
web-browser on his VNC Server, point it to www.GoToMyVNC.com,
and run the scan there.

The easiest way to work around NAT'ing right now is
to use the Add Client... option of a VNC Server. In this mode,
the person on the *server side* tells the Server which Viewer
to connect with; ie, your IP address.

hope this helps,
Scott

 I am an amateur user.  I have used VNC very successfully to connect to
 my mother's Windows XP machine from my own W2000 PC (over a dial-up
 connection) in order to help her out with problems.  I am now trying to
 do the same for my father-in-law, but am not succeeding and don't know
 why.  He has opened WinVNC server on his machine, and has told me the IP
 address he gets when he hovers over the icon.  I have entered this IP
 address in the new connection window of the listener on my PC.  I am
 then getting a VNC Info message which says failed to connect to server.
snip
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Re: A question about using VNC over NAT

2004-01-02 Thread Scott C. Best
Howard:

Heya. Here's a more recent discussion about VNC and
NAT'ing firewall/routers like your DLink:

http://faq.gotomyvnc.com/fom-serve/cache/133.html

snip
 I have dug through the archives, but I must confess that I didn't
 understand a lot of what I saw there, especially concerning using VNC
 with NAT.  The entries on NAT and VNC were all over a year old, too,
 so I'm hoping that there has been some additional progress made on
 that front.  I have tried reading up on NAT, but I must confess that I
 didn't understand a lot of what I read on that subject, either.

 The work system is behind a firewall.  My home computer is on a DLink
 802.11b router, with an internal (192.168.0.x) address that can be
 either dynamically assigned by the router, or manually assigned on a
 router setup page.  The DLink has a setup for something called a
 virtual server, with a list of internal IP addresses in the
 192.168.0.x range next to dropdown boxes labelled service with the
 selections

 HTTP/SMTP/POP3/FTP/TELNET/IRC/ALL/NONE
snip

Some routers allow you to port-forward any port number
you want; it sounds like your DLink is only allowing you to
handle these 6 ports. Oh well. The easiest solution for you right
now is to choose HTTP for your virtual service, and then setup
your VNC Server to run on port 80 (instead of its default port 5900).
Fortunately, this is very easy to do in version 4 of VNC.

Once your server is running and listening to port-80,
and your DLink is setup to port forward the external port-80
to your internal VNC Server, you should be able to connect with
a VNC Viewer from the outside world. Just be sure to tell it to
connect on port-80. Again, this is pretty easy to do in version
4 of the VNC Viewer.

Hope this helps!

cheers,
Scott
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Re: Disabling Reg Key for DisableIcon

2004-01-02 Thread James Weatherall
On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, Marvin E Barnett wrote:

 I would like to go a couple of steps further.  Are there reg settings so
 that this will run as a service but not show up in the services window?   I
 propose the same question where the vnc.exe does not show up in the task
 manager?  Has this been implemented and if so can you please let me know the
 reg keys to add.
 
 Simply setting:
 HKLM\SOFTWARE\ORL\winvnc3\defaultAllowShutdown (DWORD) to 0 does not do what
 I am actually asking.  I have been able to stop the service using w2k when
 this value has been set to 0.

AllowShutdown will prevent non-Administrator users from shutting down the 
server.  You must have been running as an Administrator when you tried it.

There have been no legitimate reasons suggested for wanting to 
hide the tray icon under NT-based platforms, which is why it is not a 
feature.

Cheers,

Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.
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VNC Viewer and PCAnywhere 10.5

2004-01-02 Thread Stephen Gosin
I have found that after installing VNC Viewer, the TCP/IP Host mode in
PCAnwhere 10.5 do longer functioned in my LAN.  A remote trying to access
the PCAnywhere host does not get a hookup screen.  To correct it, I had to
uninstall VNC viewer, uninstall and reinstall PCAnwhere.

The ports used are not the same so I do not understand the reason why.  The
host uses windows 98SE and VNC viewer was installed to enable fast access to
my office computer (VNC Host) over the internet with router and cable modem
(wideband).  VNC works quit well for that purpose but it does not seem to
coexist well with PCAnywhere since I can't just stop the PCAnywhere Host
when I want to use VNC Viewer and then end the viewer because PCA will no
longer work until it is reinstalled.

Any ideas?  Is there a service that VNC Viewer starts that I have to
manually stop with a ctrl-alt-del??

Any help would be appreciated.

Steve Gosin
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Re: failing to connect to server

2004-01-02 Thread David Bull
thanks very much to Scott Best, Dave Bricetti and ER Kooi, who all 
responded very quickly to my plea for assistance.  The problem has now 
been resolved thanks to your kind help.

The solution may be of help to others who are trying to connect to 
Windows XP remote PCs. 

The remote computer had its Windows XP firewall on.  Unlike Zone Alarm 
etc, the firewall doesn't appear to be configurable to allow an incoming 
connection.  The solution was to make the connection FROM the PC with 
the XP firewall, rather than TO it.  This was done by having my 
father-in-law open VNC server app, right-click on the systray icon and 
select add new client.  He then entered my IP address in the box , 
while I opened the VNC viewer in listen mode.  As soon as he clicked 
OK on his add new client dialogue, we were connected, and his screen 
appeared on my computer.  And his computer is still protected by the 
firewall.

thanks again for all the help.

regards

David
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RE: VNC Viewer and PCAnywhere 10.5

2004-01-02 Thread Kevin Z Grey
VNC Viewer is a mere stand-alone executable with some registry settings.
In other words: it messes with nothing on the system.

In fact, there is no installation routine for the viewer so my guess is
that something else fubar'd your PC Anywhere.

~~K

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Behalf Of Stephen Gosin
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 1:52 PM
To: VNC Group (E-mail)
Subject: VNC Viewer and PCAnywhere 10.5

I have found that after installing VNC Viewer, the TCP/IP Host mode in
PCAnwhere 10.5 do longer functioned in my LAN.  A remote trying to
access
the PCAnywhere host does not get a hookup screen.  To correct it, I had
to
uninstall VNC viewer, uninstall and reinstall PCAnwhere.

The ports used are not the same so I do not understand the reason why.
The
host uses windows 98SE and VNC viewer was installed to enable fast
access to
my office computer (VNC Host) over the internet with router and cable
modem
(wideband).  VNC works quit well for that purpose but it does not seem
to
coexist well with PCAnywhere since I can't just stop the PCAnywhere Host
when I want to use VNC Viewer and then end the viewer because PCA will
no
longer work until it is reinstalled.

Any ideas?  Is there a service that VNC Viewer starts that I have to
manually stop with a ctrl-alt-del??

Any help would be appreciated.

Steve Gosin
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using VNC behind multiple routers

2004-01-02 Thread Justin Allen
I have VNC installed on my computer at home which is behind Linsys
router/firewall. I need to connect one of my Stepfathers computers which
is also behind a router/firewall. I do have SSH on my end but I don't
think he has it on his. How should I go about making this connection? I
can always send and have him set up SSH if it is necessary or
recommended. 
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