Re: Collaborative VNC

2004-01-23 Thread Andre Merzky
Quoting [Ben Levitt] (Jan 23 2004):
> 
> Well... I found a bit of time.  :]

Wow, that was fast :-D  

 
> http://benjie.org/software/linux/vnc-collaborate.html
> 
> I added a little name popup in the top-left that pops
> up whenever someone takes control of the session. 

Sounds perfect!


> (I
> still want to add the ability to pop this box up on
> demand as a way to see who is in control  Maybe a
> menu-item...)

Yes, this also seems very useful to us.


> I also added a -master flag to Xvnc which makes the
> first vncviewer to connect to the session the master. 
> The master can always take control of the session.

:-)) Great!


> Please let me know if these changes are what you were
> looking for.  

Yes, this sounds absolutely fine!  :-))
I will check it out on Monday - next three days are stuffed :-(
The scenario we want to implement is as follows (this is a short
version, we will provide a more detailed version next week):

  For a distributed virtual surgery planning, a medical doctor
  may need support from both external colleques (say, a bone
  specialist) and external IT technicians (say, a 3D modeling
  specialist).  During the planning, different software tools
  to be used on the same 3D model.  Our software provides that
  ability.

  However, koordination of actions is difficult, even if we
  integrate video konferenzing as means of communication (we
  integrate the VC into the 3D-scene).  So, being able to
  explicitely shift focus of action from one participant to
  another is very important and useful.


> (I have to clean the code up a little still, but it
> should work just fine for now as is...)

:-)

Many thanks!  Andre.


> Ben


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Re: VNC-List digest, Vol 1 #776 - 18 msgs

2004-01-21 Thread Andre Merzky
Hi Ben, 

we checked out your patch, and that seems indeed to work nicely!
(Linux to linux), and: that is exactly what we need! :-)  Many
thanks!  :-))

Do you accept feature requests already? ;-)

  - It would be nice to be able to define a master, who is always
able to gain control, independend of the other participants
mode.
  - It would be nice to have an idea about who is controling the
screen when in fullscreen mode, or borderless windows mode.
The titlebar update works nice, but a short-living popup in
the top middle or somewhere would be cool.  

If we can help you with testing or bug fixing, let us know. 
If you want to get some detailed usage scenario from us, let us
also know :-)

Cheers, Andre.


Quoting [Ben Levitt] (Jan 21 2004):
> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:36:39 -0800 (PST)
> From: Ben Levitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Collaborative VNC
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> I have put together a patch for tightvnc which allows
> multiple people to work together in a vnc session.  It
> lets everyone see everyone else's mouse pointer, and
> mediates control of the session so multiple people
> can't simultaneously send colliding mouse and keyboard
> input.
> 
> My bare-bones page about this patch is at:
> http://benjie.org/software/linux/vnc-collaborate.html
> or if that site is still being flakey, at:
> http://kzsu.stanford.edu/~benjie/linux/vnc/vnc-collaborate.html
> 
> I thought people here might be interested in trying
> this.  So far I have only patched the unix version. 
> If I get a few requests, I'll try to patch the viewers
> for windows and java as well.  (Or if people who know
> windows or java coding better than me want to help
> out, that would be fine too.  :)  But I'm getting
> ahead of myself...)
> 
> I also thought this would make a good addition to the 
> "VNC Extras, Add-ons and modifications" page at 
> http://www.uk.research.att.com/archive/vnc/extras.html
>  Anyone know how to request getting a link to this
> project onto that page?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ben


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Re: Ftp

2003-11-12 Thread Andre Merzky
Quoting [Davide] (Nov 12 2003):
> 
> I' m a new user of VNC (I discovered this the other week!). I have a
> question, it's possible with VNC to send a file to the server (FTP?)?

I think not.  Why don't you use FTP?

Andre.


> This is my question, because I want to use VNC to support my customer.
>  
> Thans in advance.
> Best Regards.
>  
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Re: [Fwd: Re: managing multiple participants]

2003-11-12 Thread Andre Merzky
>  Original Message 
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> > When I start a vnc server enabling others to share the session using a
> > common password, I would like to being able to switch between active
> > and passive participants. I could imagine different modes of operation:
> >
> > 1) one active user - many observer
> > 2) many active users (sending mouse/keyboard events) - many observer
> > 3) all active users
> 
> With a stock vnc installation, there is no way to do this that I am aware
> of.
> 
> I am curious - are you running a Windows vnc server, where all
> participants see the same remote desktop? It's my understanding that with
> a *nix vnc server, each client gets their own desktop.

We do run on Unix (SGI and/or Linux), but here the behaviour is
the same: each client sees the same desktop.  You can start
multiple servers (with multiple desktops) though.  I do not know
about windows.


> If you are running a Windows server, in the many/all active user cases, do
> you want different participants' mouse and key strokes to be combined by
> the vnc server? Or do you want one participant to control the server at a
> time?

The combination of client inputs is already working natively -
you can use VNC in kollaborative mode, where all clients are
allowed to give input - quite messy sometimes :-)

Also, you can configure it the way that only one (or a subset of)
client(s) has control - the other would connect read-only then.

Our exact problem is that you specify that behaviour on startup -
we would like to move the input fokus around on runtime...


> I ask because I am a graduate student doing research in this area. As a
> part of the research, I have been modifying the Windows vnc 3.3.7 server
> and client to support multiple clients, but only with one client in
> control at a time. The other clients can observe, ask for control, and
> get it, in a manner similar to Microsoft NetMeeting.

That sounds about what we want! :-)  As said, I do not know about
windows - is your work portable to the Unix-version of VNC?

Cheers, thanks for your reply!

Andre & Stefan.

> 
> andrew.
> 
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> M.Sc. Candidate, Department of Computer Science
> University of British Columbia, Canada
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