Re: [VoiceOps] 9-8-8 dialing when an outside line access code (9) is being used

2022-07-15 Thread Mike Johnston

On 2022-07-15 10:19, Carlos Alvarez wrote:

We stopped the useless "outside line" concept almost a decade ago.


I would like to second that.  There is no need to dial a "9" (or 8, or 
whatever) to seize an outside line anymore.  We are no longer using 
mechanical step switches, and as such, are able to more elegantly figure 
out what the user is trying to dial


Sometimes this requires using timeouts.  Sometimes you can avoid the 
timeouts by carefully selecting the extensions.  For example, if you are 
in US/Canada and using 3-digit dialing, the extensions 100 through 119 
are never ambiguous (with NPAs, NXXs, ERCs, etc) and would not require a 
timeout.  If all of the extensions on the phone system are 100 through 
119, then this is a clear case of where a "9" to get an "outside line" 
makes no technical sense.


Possible pro tip: If setting up a phone system for a very small 
business, and you doubt they will ever grow beyond 20 extensions, 
consider using extensions 100 through 119.  They will never need to 
endure timeouts for station-to-station calling.


This all assumes you are bothering to setup digitmaps on the phones/ATAs.

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Re: [VoiceOps] 9-8-8 dialing when an outside line access code (9) is being used

2022-07-15 Thread Pinchas Neiman
I am still using a few old cisco phones that use the 9 concept, what should
i say i am using a click to call link when i bump into this issue

On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 11:28 AM Carlos Alvarez  wrote:

> We stopped the useless "outside line" concept almost a decade ago.
>
> On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 8:10 AM Zilk, David  wrote:
>
>> How are folks dealing with allowing calls to 9-8-8 when an access code of
>> 9 is used. Does this not cause a conflict when calling toll free numbers
>> beginning with an NPA of 88x?
>>
>>
>>
>> David
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Re: [VoiceOps] 9-8-8 dialing when an outside line access code (9) is being used

2022-07-15 Thread Carlos Alvarez
We stopped the useless "outside line" concept almost a decade ago.

On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 8:10 AM Zilk, David  wrote:

> How are folks dealing with allowing calls to 9-8-8 when an access code of
> 9 is used. Does this not cause a conflict when calling toll free numbers
> beginning with an NPA of 88x?
>
>
>
> David
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[VoiceOps] 9-8-8 dialing when an outside line access code (9) is being used

2022-07-15 Thread Zilk, David
How are folks dealing with allowing calls to 9-8-8 when an access code of 9 is 
used. Does this not cause a conflict when calling toll free numbers beginning 
with an NPA of 88x?

David
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