Re: [volt-nuts] Datron 1082

2014-05-08 Thread Marv @ Home
Just a side comment, if this battery is the same as the one made by 
the company Tenergy in Fremont, CA, they are just shy of 10 years 
old, so it looks like this Datron 1082 has had its battery changed 
once in recent memory.



At 12:25 AM 4/23/2014, Randy Evans wrote:

I just took out the battery and it is a Tenergy 3.6 VDC 1200mAH ER14250
with tabs welded on.

Randy


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Re: [volt-nuts] Datron 1082

2014-04-23 Thread Randy Evans
I just took out the battery and it is a Tenergy 3.6 VDC 1200mAH ER14250
with tabs welded on.

Randy


On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 9:08 PM, Randy Evans randyevans2...@gmail.comwrote:

 Todd,

 That does look like the battery in my 1082. I don't see any markings on
 the battery in my unit but I can't see the back side until I remove it.

 I assume the original was 3.6 VDC also but I'm not sure how to verify
 that.

 Thanks for the help.

 Randy


 On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 7:07 PM, T. Micallef tmical...@gmail.com wrote:

 Randy Evans randyevans2688@... writes:

 
  The schematic of the Datron 1071 DMM seems to be very similar to the
 Datron
  1082 but I'm sure there are differences.  Unfortunately, I have not been
  able to locate the 1082 Service Manual with the parts lists and
 schematics.
   The 1071 manual does have a similar or identical battery but I can't
 find
  the part number in the 1071  parts list.  Does anyone know the part
 number
  of the memory battery in the 1082 or 1071, or the characteristics; e.g.,
  voltage and A-H rating?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Randy Evans AE6YG
 
  On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 8:32 PM, Tom Knox actast@... wrote:
 

 I popped the top off of my mothballed 1071 and it looks like a 1/2AA
 battery
 based on physical measurements. It looks like the one in the following
 link

 http://www.zbattery.com/Tadiran-TL-5151-with-tabs-1-2-AA-Lithium-Battery

 Todd

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Re: [volt-nuts] Datron 1082

2014-04-22 Thread Randy Evans
The schematic of the Datron 1071 DMM seems to be very similar to the Datron
1082 but I'm sure there are differences.  Unfortunately, I have not been
able to locate the 1082 Service Manual with the parts lists and schematics.
 The 1071 manual does have a similar or identical battery but I can't find
the part number in the 1071  parts list.  Does anyone know the part number
of the memory battery in the 1082 or 1071, or the characteristics; e.g.,
voltage and A-H rating?

Thanks,

Randy Evans AE6YG


On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 8:32 PM, Tom Knox act...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Sorry I wasn't clear. I think the errors you are experiencing are because
 the memory battery is gone, so it won't matter now, this is for saving the
 cal data during future replacement to avoid these problems again.
 Best Wishes;
 Thomas Knox



  Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 19:59:29 -0700
  From: randyevans2...@gmail.com
  To: volt-nuts@febo.com
  Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Datron 1082
 
  Tom,
 
  I would think with 0.08 VDC the battery is dead and all the memory is
 gone.
   Do you think it would make any difference if I paralleled the leads
 with a
  new one?  I don't have a parts list to know what type the battery is so
  it's going to be a challenge to find a direct replacement.  Wish I had a
  manual.
 
  Randy
 
 
  On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 7:54 PM, Tom Knox act...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
   Randy I would say from my experience with Datron there is about 90%
 chance
   the battery and recal will solve the problem. I would modify the
 battery
   with a coupe sets of leads that are long enough so you can install a
 new
   while the old battery is still in circuit.
   Best Wishes;
   Thomas Knox
  
  
  
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 19:23:35 -0700
From: randyevans2...@gmail.com
To: volt-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Datron 1082
   
I believe the voltages are correct but I have no schematics or
troubleshooting instructions to confirm.  I do see what looks like a
battery in the memory section of the 1082 and it measures 0.08 VDC.
 Not a
good sign.  I am really hoping someone has a Datron 1082 Service
 manual
with schematics that they can steer me to, preferably a soft copy so
 I
   can
better troubleshoot the unit.  It might just need a new battery
 (plus a
re-cal) to get it going again but I hate going blind.
   
Randy
   
   
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 8:15 AM, Tom Knox act...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
   
 As with many products of this age the tantalum caps are a common
 point
   of
 failure in the 1082.
 Although this current problem sounds like a memory battery.

 Thomas Knox



  Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 11:03:56 -0400
  From: cfhar...@erols.com
  To: volt-nuts@febo.com
  Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Datron 1082
 
  Just in case you haven't yet: Always start any investigation with
  checking the power supply for voltage and ripple.  Test the main
  electrolytic capacitors for capacitance, and ESR.
 
  Nothing in the unit's self testing ability can be trusted if the
  power supply is putting out large amounts of ripple, or is at the
  wrong voltage.
 
  -Chuck Harris
 
  Randy Evans wrote:
   I have a Datron 1082 DMM that just recently stopped working.
  When
   I
 power
   up, it gives a FAIL message on the front panel.  I found a
   flowchart
 in
   an abbreviated servicing manual that indicates it's from a
 failure
   of
 the
   Check for uncorrupted calibration store.  I Assume this
 likely
   means
 the
   cal tables are corrupted?  Unfortunately, I don't have
 sufficient
   information (e.g., schematics) to do any further
 troubleshooting.
Can
   anyone help with a complete servicing manual and/or further
   diagnostic
 help?
  
  
   I did download the Datron 1071DMM  OS manual from K04BB but I
   don't
 know
   how similar it is to the 1082.  Can anyone comment on what the
 differences
   are?
  
  
  
   Thanks,
  
  
  
   Randy Evans
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Re: [volt-nuts] Datron 1082

2014-04-22 Thread T . Micallef
Randy Evans randyevans2688@... writes:

 
 The schematic of the Datron 1071 DMM seems to be very similar to the Datron
 1082 but I'm sure there are differences.  Unfortunately, I have not been
 able to locate the 1082 Service Manual with the parts lists and schematics.
  The 1071 manual does have a similar or identical battery but I can't find
 the part number in the 1071  parts list.  Does anyone know the part number
 of the memory battery in the 1082 or 1071, or the characteristics; e.g.,
 voltage and A-H rating?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Randy Evans AE6YG
 
 On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 8:32 PM, Tom Knox actast@... wrote:
 

I popped the top off of my mothballed 1071 and it looks like a 1/2AA battery
based on physical measurements. It looks like the one in the following link

http://www.zbattery.com/Tadiran-TL-5151-with-tabs-1-2-AA-Lithium-Battery

Todd

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Re: [volt-nuts] Datron 1082

2014-04-21 Thread Chuck Harris

Just in case you haven't yet: Always start any investigation with
checking the power supply for voltage and ripple.  Test the main
electrolytic capacitors for capacitance, and ESR.

Nothing in the unit's self testing ability can be trusted if the
power supply is putting out large amounts of ripple, or is at the
wrong voltage.

-Chuck Harris

Randy Evans wrote:

I have a Datron 1082 DMM that just recently stopped working.  When I power
up, it gives a FAIL message on the front panel.  I found a flowchart in
an abbreviated servicing manual that indicates it's from a failure of the
Check for uncorrupted calibration store.  I Assume this likely means the
cal tables are corrupted?  Unfortunately, I don't have sufficient
information (e.g., schematics) to do any further troubleshooting.  Can
anyone help with a complete servicing manual and/or further diagnostic help?


I did download the Datron 1071DMM  OS manual from K04BB but I don't know
how similar it is to the 1082.  Can anyone comment on what the differences
are?



Thanks,



Randy Evans

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Re: [volt-nuts] Datron 1082

2014-04-21 Thread Randy Evans
I believe the voltages are correct but I have no schematics or
troubleshooting instructions to confirm.  I do see what looks like a
battery in the memory section of the 1082 and it measures 0.08 VDC. Not a
good sign.  I am really hoping someone has a Datron 1082 Service manual
with schematics that they can steer me to, preferably a soft copy so I can
better troubleshoot the unit.  It might just need a new battery (plus a
re-cal) to get it going again but I hate going blind.

Randy


On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 8:15 AM, Tom Knox act...@hotmail.com wrote:

 As with many products of this age the tantalum caps are a common point of
 failure in the 1082.
 Although this current problem sounds like a memory battery.

 Thomas Knox



  Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 11:03:56 -0400
  From: cfhar...@erols.com
  To: volt-nuts@febo.com
  Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Datron 1082
 
  Just in case you haven't yet: Always start any investigation with
  checking the power supply for voltage and ripple.  Test the main
  electrolytic capacitors for capacitance, and ESR.
 
  Nothing in the unit's self testing ability can be trusted if the
  power supply is putting out large amounts of ripple, or is at the
  wrong voltage.
 
  -Chuck Harris
 
  Randy Evans wrote:
   I have a Datron 1082 DMM that just recently stopped working.  When I
 power
   up, it gives a FAIL message on the front panel.  I found a flowchart
 in
   an abbreviated servicing manual that indicates it's from a failure of
 the
   Check for uncorrupted calibration store.  I Assume this likely means
 the
   cal tables are corrupted?  Unfortunately, I don't have sufficient
   information (e.g., schematics) to do any further troubleshooting.  Can
   anyone help with a complete servicing manual and/or further diagnostic
 help?
  
  
   I did download the Datron 1071DMM  OS manual from K04BB but I don't
 know
   how similar it is to the 1082.  Can anyone comment on what the
 differences
   are?
  
  
  
   Thanks,
  
  
  
   Randy Evans
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