Re: New light on LENR

2004-08-21 Thread Edmund Storms


Horace Heffner wrote:

 It appears we have made no progress at all on the issues I have raised.
 Rather than wasting more time on that now, I would very much appreciate
 information on a side issue you have raised in the discussion.

I don't know what you would consider progress short of my agreeing with you that
I screwed up.

As for the magnet effect, I will explain.  An isoperibolic calorimeter, as Letts
used, measures power production by determining temperature drop across the cell
wall.  The inner temperature is measured at one or more locations within the
electrolyte. In his case, the outer temperature was the ambient air.  Heat is
being generated within the electrolyte by the motion of electrons and ions and by
the CF process at the cathode, both of which generate convection currents within
the fluid having different temperatures.  Such a calorimeter is calibrated by
assuming that the calibration method produces similar gradients and that these
gradients are stable.   When the ions and electrons that are moving within the
electrolyte are subjected to a magnetic field, their trajectories are changed.
This change causes convection currents within the fluid to change their path so
that fluid current of a different temperature impacts on the thermistor, hence
the the measured inner temperature appears to change.   This change is
indistinguishable from a change in power production.   I explored this effect in
some detail using a similar calorimeter.  I found that I could obtain  apparent
excess energy by simply moving the magnets in the absent of the laser.  I also
measured the laser effect using a Seebeck calorimeter in the absence of a
magnet.  Because the cell is within a metal box, I would expect any external
magnetic field would be significantly reduced within the calorimeter.

As for changing laser polarization, this effect may also be an artifact because
the laser effect is very sensitive to where on the surface the laser is applied.
Unless the exact same spot on the cathode is being irradiated by the same size
spot of laser light, the effect of any change in laser characteristics can not be
isolated from these effects.  These experiments were not done under conditions
that would insure consistency of spot size or position.  In short, many of the
details about the effect still need to be determined.  Therefore, it is premature
to speculate about a model.

I hope this explanation is clear.

Regards,
Ed



 At 2:58 PM 8/20/4, Edmund Storms wrote:

 2. An isoperibolic calorimeter has an artifact when a magnetic field is
 applied.
 Such fields change the internal thermal gradients so that the calibration no
 longer applies.  Therefore, any claim based on such a calorimeter involving a
 magnetic field can not be believed.

 Could you explain how a magnetic field significantly changes thermal
 gradients in an isoperibolic calorimeter?   I assume you mean here that
 even if magnets in the calorimeter are replaced with masses of the same
 size, shape and thermal properties, but having no magnetic field, the
 change in calibration will still be seen?

 If it is known in advance that magnetic fields are going to be used in a
 calorimeter, it seems like it should be a fairly small issue to use
 materials in the calorimeter that do not significantly change their thermal
 properties in a magnetic field.

 It should of course be impossible for a static magnetic field to actually
 change the total energy balance of a process, as that would be a violation
 of conservation of energy.

 Thus the question arises: even if there is no motion of conductors, and
 even if no materials are used which have thermal properties which are
 altered significantly by magnetic fields, can the calibration constant of
 an isoperibolic calorimeter be altered by magnetic fields enclosed within
 the calorimeter?

 Regards,

 Horace Heffner



[ISBL04] Newspaper Articles of International Symposium on Ball Lightning in Taiwan (fwd)

2004-08-21 Thread William Beaty


The Ball Lightning Symposium apparently just took place last week in
Taiwan.  I received the following chinese-language file.  Can anyone
translate?

See this temporary GIF image

  http://amasci.com/temp.gif



Babelfish also does a slightly-worthwhile job on the following URLs.


-- Forwarded message --
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 18:21:05 +0900
From: Masashi KAMOGAWA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Masashi Kamogawa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ISBL04] Newspaper Articles of International Symposium on Ball
Lightning in Taiwan

Dear my colleagues:

I would like to inform you the newspaper articles about ISBL04 in Taiwan.

Chinatimes:
August 5, 2004
http://news.chinatimes.com/Chinatimes/newslist/newslist-content/0%2C3546%2C110503%2B112004080500061%2C00.html

NCU secretary news:
August 5, 2004
http://www.ncu.edu.tw/ncu2/modules.php?name=Ncu_mainfile=indexfunc=articlesid=2393

NCU secretary news:
August 10, 2004
http://www.ncu.edu.tw/ncu2/modules.php?name=Ncu_mainfile=indexfunc=articlesid=2411

We are looking forward to seeing you in the Holland.

Best wishes,

Masashi KAMOGAWA

-
Department of Physics, Tokyo Gakugei University
(Transfer from Waseda University)
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://faculty.web.waseda.ac.jp/kamogawa/index.html
TELFAX +81-42-329-7484 (Direct)



Re: New light on LENR

2004-08-21 Thread Jones Beene
Ed,

Thanks for your more detailed answer, which addresses several points of interest in 
the Letts effect which were unclear from you published experiment, and your previous 
messages. Perhaps we should even reserve judgement on this name, the Letts effect, 
pending review of the similar work of  Dr. Mitchell Swartz, who seems to claiming some 
priority in this discovery. More disturbingly, he seems to be insinuating that there 
is an ongoing effort on the part of LENR-CANR to censor or otherwise obstruct the 
distribution of his information.

But back to the task of looking towards the future of a planet which is desperately in 
need of a prompt solution to its increasing energy needs, part of which might be met 
if the [eponymic] effect is truly reproducible, with or without the direct conversion 
of heat into electricity...

I think everyone will agree with your first conclusion:
In short, many of the details about the effect still need to be determined.

However, in regard to the second,
Therefore, it is premature to speculate about a model.

Experimenters desirous of efficiency should disagree in the strongest terms with that 
conclusion for several reasons:

1) The important thing for the future, not only of this experiment but perhaps for the 
entire field, is to find the correct model expediently, in order to guide in the 
correct understanding of this anomaly; and this cannot be done efficiently without 
first designing experiments based on *most likely possible models,* so that the false 
models can be eliminated, one by one.

2) To proceed in a hit-or-miss fashion, based on incremental improvements of past 
experiments, might provide some good answers also, but unless one is very fortunate or 
skilled, it will logically be a semi-blind effort, since there is no satisfactory 
underlying model. No doubt you have a personal model in the formative stages, which 
steers the design of ongoing work. But even though this Edisonian approach does work 
well sometimes, the only problem is, it may not be as efficient for others than 
yourself as the alternative: which is building speculative models first, and then 
performing experiments to prove/disprove those.

3) There are some easy-to-disprove new models, based on Quantum Mechanics, which can 
be put forward.

4) At least one of these models is poised to produce answers for less effort than is 
involved in the typical calorimetry experiment, because calorimetry is not needed-and 
in fact, in this model retention of excess heat in the active zone could be inhibitory 
to the effect. 

This model will depend on a newfound ability (hopefully), if the obvious extension to 
the Letts effect is correct, to construct the experiment in two separated steps
a) loading and sealing a target, 
b) irradiating a stand-alone target, not with some randomly chosen frequency but with 
a frequency determined by the model, and irradiation the target outside of a liquid 
cell, so that charged particles can be collected, if they are present.

If charged particles are not found, and they should be easy to find if they are 
present,  then that would be very temporarily disappointing, but might lead to a more 
refined model and subsequent experiment to prove/disprove the next model.

You are understandably committed to the Edisonian approach - fine - it has worked for 
you in the past, but that is because you are an exceptionally skilled experimenter, 
like Thomas A. himself - but the rarity of those traits only reinforces the notion 
that it is wiser for others to proceed more logically. I just wish you and the others 
in this field has a staff of 50-60 technicians to push this effort along

Regards,

Jones Beene

Here is a story on the Large Hadron Collider
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3583658.stm
which is the latest $5 billion boondoggle which takes away even more potential funding 
from much higher priority needs - like REAL - solutions to nuclear energy at the 
low-energy end of the spectrum. Give experimenter like Storms/Letts/Shoulders/Miley/ 
etc. etc. a small fraction of that and we could already be sitting on the answer to an 
oil-free future.






Re: [ISBL04] Newspaper Articles of International Symposium on Ball Lightning in Taiwan (fwd)

2004-08-21 Thread William Beaty
On Sat, 21 Aug 2004, William Beaty wrote:


 Babelfish also does a slightly-worthwhile job on the following URLs.


Also:  select chinese-trad as the language.   Here's a sample:





http://www.ncu.edu.tw/ncu2/modules.php?name=Ncu_mainfile=indexfunc=articlesid=2393

Reporter the pond biography wins/Chungli to report

Along with lunar calendar July arrival, many about ghost the subject
starts on the media warmly to discuss. Had many people to listen to the
jack-o'-lantern to be clear, even some people declared once with own eyes
has seen, the average person saw the migration exceptionally shines the
object in, unclearly investigates very easily regards as it one kind
[psychic?] phenomenon, even far-fetched very many fables. In fact,
this kind of abnormal phenomenon may use the modern science the angle to
explain that, Central University outer space research institute Manager
Liu Zheng Yan said: It has the possibility is the sphere lightning .

The sphere lightning is a migration is rapid, the bright shining
spheroid, some people mistake it for the jack-o'-lantern, also some people
thought is [spirit?] floats, actually it is one kind of extremely special
natural phenomenon, also has of atmospheric electricity research the
long-time history, including Nobel prize-winner P.L. Kapitza all is one of
researchers. Since 1988, in country and so on European and American date
has held seven related international seminars, eighth session of
international sphere lightning seminar first launches in Taiwan, Central
University outer space therefore the nation only, also is the world
biggest outer space education unit and so on under the dual
qualifications, strives for commendablily to jointly manages the power.
Comes from the world 9 countries 20 well-known scholars, in the
oligomerization loudly to discuss this kind of mysterious natural
phenomenon.

Central University outer space research institute Liu Zheng Yan has a
quite unforgettable recollection to the sphere lightning: He reads high
three o'clock, gloomy is bad in some weather, flutters the drizzle
afternoon, bored treating when classroom, suddenly has the unclear sphere
object, sends out bright which dazzles, smuggles the huge sound, slowly
raises from the window, at that time also shook has broken to pieces
nearby the window one, two glass. The at that time because the sky is dim,
its Yao goal golden yellow brightness resembled the lightning, Liu Zheng
Yan called at that time it the sphere lightning, afterwards under the
cause opportune moment started with country and so on the Japan to carry
on the sphere lightning the correlation research.

Actually the sphere lightning and the average person cognition the
jack-o'-lantern or has some kind of degree the difference. The
jack-o'-lantern only is the burning phenomenon which the phosphorus one
kind of compound produces, the physique is by no means spherical, some
luckily meets the sphere lightning the person, possibly by chance bumps
into the peak which in August sphere lightning appears, bumps into the
Chinese unique clever month, then [xxx] oneself saw is the popular name
jack-o'-lantern.

This grading eight sessions of international seminars, thought the sphere
lightning is the kind of electricity thick liquid ball, occurs under the
heavy weather, because the formidable electromagnetism correlation,
gathers integrates one kind of not smelly sphere object, except can
penetrate object and so on wall surface, but also can against the wind
but the line.

Liu Zheng Yan pointed out that, the home is situated gg1e0
 the area, is an energy gathers, before south on once observed the outer
space lightning marvelous sight the giant jet, therefore also should
be studies the sphere lightning [xx] the good environment.

Original text reprint from [ 2004-08-04/ east woods newspaper ]
Http://www.ettoday.com/2004/08/04/122%2D1667580.htm


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Re: New light on LENR

2004-08-21 Thread Edmund Storms
 Ed,
 
 Thanks for your more detailed answer, which addresses several points of
 interest in the Letts effect which were unclear from you published experiment,
 and your previous messages. Perhaps we should even reserve judgement on this
 name, the Letts effect, pending review of the similar work of  Dr. Mitchell
 Swartz, who seems to claiming some priority in this discovery. More
 disturbingly, he seems to be insinuating that there is an ongoing effort on
 the part of LENR-CANR to censor or otherwise obstruct the distribution of his
 information.

I have no idea how Mitchell thinks.  I and Jed on numerous occasions have
asked him for copies of his work.  On the few occasions when he responded,
the files were not in the right format to upload.  He was told of this
problem, but he never sent proper formats. The LENR-CANR site wants his work
if he will provide it.

As for his claims of previous laser studies, these never came to my
attention at the time, nor to anyone else as far as I know.  If Swartz wants
to take credit for his ideas, he needs to publish them before the fact not
afterwards.  
 
 But back to the task of looking towards the future of a planet which is
 desperately in need of a prompt solution to its increasing energy needs, part
 of which might be met if the [eponymic] effect is truly reproducible, with or
 without the direct conversion of heat into electricity...
 
 I think everyone will agree with your first conclusion:
 In short, many of the details about the effect still need to be determined.
 
 However, in regard to the second,
 Therefore, it is premature to speculate about a model.
 
 Experimenters desirous of efficiency should disagree in the strongest terms
 with that conclusion for several reasons:
 
 1) The important thing for the future, not only of this experiment but perhaps
 for the entire field, is to find the correct model expediently, in order to
 guide in the correct understanding of this anomaly; and this cannot be done
 efficiently without first designing experiments based on *most likely possible
 models,* so that the false models can be eliminated, one by one.

No one is doing the work hit or miss, as you say.  Everyone in the field has
his own personal model, most of which have not been published.  I'm only
concerned about time wasted discussing a model that is based on what might
be incorrect experimental claims. It is obvious, even without a theory, that
the effect of polarization, a magnetic field, laser frequency, and laser
power all need to be explored. A theory adds nothing to this effort right
now unless you can predict where the best frequency might be.

 
 2) To proceed in a hit-or-miss fashion, based on incremental improvements of
 past experiments, might provide some good answers also, but unless one is very
 fortunate or skilled, it will logically be a semi-blind effort, since there is
 no satisfactory underlying model. No doubt you have a personal model in the
 formative stages, which steers the design of ongoing work. But even though
 this Edisonian approach does work well sometimes, the only problem is, it may
 not be as efficient for others than yourself as the alternative: which is
 building speculative models first, and then performing experiments to
 prove/disprove those.
 
 3) There are some easy-to-disprove new models, based on Quantum Mechanics,
 which can be put forward.

No one is going to waste their time trying to disprove some one else's
model.  Experimentalists spend their time trying to prove their own models.
 
 4) At least one of these models is poised to produce answers for less effort
 than is involved in the typical calorimetry experiment, because calorimetry is
 not needed-and in fact, in this model retention of excess heat in the active
 zone could be inhibitory to the effect.
 
 This model will depend on a newfound ability (hopefully), if the obvious
 extension to the Letts effect is correct, to construct the experiment in two
 separated steps
 a) loading and sealing a target,
 b) irradiating a stand-alone target, not with some randomly chosen frequency
 but with a frequency determined by the model, and irradiation the target
 outside of a liquid cell, so that charged particles can be collected, if they
 are present.

Yes, that would be a good and obvious approach.  However, we must first
discover how to make the active sites. Right now nature does this by a
random process.
 
 If charged particles are not found, and they should be easy to find if they
 are present,  then that would be very temporarily disappointing, but might
 lead to a more refined model and subsequent experiment to prove/disprove the
 next model.

A number of people are now looking for and finding charged particle emission
using various methods to initiate the nuclear reactions.  However, the
emission rate is nearly 10 orders of magnitude below He4 production rate,
causing a person to wonder if this has anything to do with the F-P effect.
 
 You are 

Sending large files to LENR-CANR.org

2004-08-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
Edmund Storms wrote:
 I have no idea how Mitchell thinks.  I and Jed on numerous occasions have
 asked him for copies of his work.  On the few occasions when he responded,
 the files were not in the right format to upload.  He was told of this
 problem, but he never sent proper formats.
To be exact, Swartz sent me a CD-ROM which I was totally unable to read. I 
could not even read the directory.

I have had bad experiences with CD-ROMs. There seem to be three or four 
different, mutually incompatible formats: ISO, SIF, UDF and so on. Swartz 
sent to the CD-ROM because his files are very big and could not be 
e-mailed. When people wish to send large files now, I recommend they 
combine the files together with pkzip and then upload the zip file to a web 
page somewhere. Most web pages have 10 MB or more free space. You give me 
the URL and I download the file. I have done this several times successfully.

I recommended this method to Swartz, and I also suggested he try another 
CD-ROM, but he did not respond.

- Jed



Re: New light on LENR

2004-08-21 Thread Mitchell Swartz



At 04:43 PM 8/21/2004, Jed Rothwell falsely wrote:
To be exact, Swartz sent me a
CD-ROM which I was totally unable to read. I could not even read the
directory.
I have had bad experiences with CD-ROMs. There seem to be three or four
different, mutually incompatible formats: ISO, SIF, UDF and so on. Swartz
sent to the CD-ROM because his files are very big and could not be
e-mailed. When people wish to send large files now, I recommend they
combine the files together with pkzip and then upload the zip file to a
web page somewhere. Most web pages have 10 MB or more free space. You
give me the URL and I download the file. I have done this several times
successfully.
I recommended this method to Swartz, and I also suggested he try another
CD-ROM, but he did not respond.
- Jed
 Ed and Jed should not be argumentative (using Jed's
previous
unwarranted, improper and outrageous admonishment to a good Vortex
scientist)
but since they have been, here goes.
 Bzt. Untrue. False.
Delusional.
Mr. Jed Rothwell is disingenuous with a very selective memory--
again. 
First, we sent Jed the files he's referred to in several formats.
We have proof he received them AND he received the files by email
too.
No mention of that in his missive.
Jed also got them and said that he had them as pdf files
but wanted to key word hunts all through them.
No mention of that in his missive,either.
Briefly, Jed got them multiple times.
In addition to CD-ROM, Jed got them by email
and by snail mail.
In addition to the CD-ROM Jed received four formats.
In addition to the CD-ROM the papers handed to him
at Gene's funeral.
If memory serves, he or Ed also received another copy
by regular mail.
So there has been a total transmission of about five formats
including one or two copies of each paper in hard-copy format,
and email and by CD ROM.
No mention of THAT in Jed's missive, is there. 
 The problem is that Jed said he was waiting for Ed's
approval.
No mention of THAT in his missive.
 Now, most who are familiar with Jed's antics, know
that since I previously criticized his lack of thermal ohmic
calibrations (and other issues including failure to consider
the Bernard stability), I expected some delay, but
more than a year of delay has come and gone, and more
than a year has passed since Jed's second receipt of the
email papers he did not mention in his missive, 
that he had received, either.
 Anyway, readdressing Jed's fantasies and zooming back to
reality.
Next, Rothwell later informed me, at about the time he began verbally
attacking my
work including here on vortex, that my papers were not acceptable
based upon his discussion with Ed Storms.
Jed told me that by telephone. Later, in email Jed confirmed that

control of the site is by Ed Storms.
Here is one of his emails purporting Jed's plausible
deniability 
based on Ed Storms:
From: Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 
Furthermore, I have no editorial role in LENR-CANR. Ed and
others make all
decisions about what papers will be uploaded. All I do is OCR the
papers
and generate the indexes. 
- Jed

Q.E.D.

 So, the record shows that Jed is disingenuous
again.
First, Jed got the papers on pdf and other formats. 
Jed waited for Ed Storms' approval.
Jed and Storms also got the papers by mail on hard-copy print.
Jed waited for Ed Storms' approval.
Jed got the papers in hand at Gene's funeral
Jed waited for Ed Storms' approval.
Jed got the papers by CD-ROM, and I doubt he had trouble
since we discussed the papers AND since no one else had trouble.
Jed waited for Ed Storms' approval.
 Thus, the likelihood of censorship at the LENR site run by

Rothwell and Storms, given the absence of three papers (zero of
three)
and the time involved (more than a year), and the multiplicity of copies
received,
is probably characterized by a p value by actuarial z test
of at least p  .01
 Q.E.D.
 Jed has never liked papers involving calibrations
because as Jed has said, We don't need no (stinking)
calibrations.
 (Perhaps that was sarcasm, perhaps not.)
 In any case, Jed's readers ought to have access to his requisite
warning label.
 Hope that helps.
 Dr. Mitchell
Swartz [EMAIL PROTECTED]







Re: New light on LENR

2004-08-21 Thread Mitchell Swartz



At 06:30 PM 8/21/2004, Jed Rothwell evasively wrote,
hand-waving to his own straw arguments, answering nothing.
Rothwell of course is simply ignoring the issues of possible 
censorship on the LENR website.
 Could it be?
Well, for the record, given Rothwell's evasive
nonsense, here is yet another additional corroboration 
taken from email written by our mutual late friend,
Dr. Eugene Mallove. It is about
Storms/Rothwell censorship and Gene picked the
title.
 In the missive. Dr. Mallove informed me about a
vortex post which I had missed, but which HE 
thought important, and he wrote his thoughtful and
now-relevant comment below. 
 I wished I had looked closer before this latest denial by the
Rothwell.
== EMAIL from Dr. Eugene Mallove=
 Subject: Storms/Rothwell censorship
=
User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004
Subject: Storms/Rothwell censorship 
From: Eugene F. Mallove [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Mitchell Swartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Mitch,
FYI -- this was a message that Rothwell posted to Vortex about a
month ago:
At LENR-CANR.org we have censored out some of the controversial
claims
related to CF, such as transmuting macroscopic amounts of gold, or
biological transmutations, along with some of the extremely
unconventional
theories. This is not because we (Storms and Rothwell) oppose these
claims,
or because we are upset by them. It is for political reasons only. The
goal
of LENR-CANR is to convince mainstream scientists that CF is real.
This
goal would be hampered by presenting such extreme views. Actually, I
have
no opinion about most theories, and I could not care less how weird
the
data may seem. At the Scientific American and the APS they feel
hostility
toward such things. They have a sense that publishing such data will
harm
their readers and sully the traditions and reputation of academic
science.
I am not a member of the congregation at the Church of Academic
Science,
and I could not care less about the Goddess Academia's Sacred Reputation.
I
don't publish because of politics and limited web space.
- Jed
This is known as science by politics -- it is disgusting.
Storms doesn't
have leg to stand on and he knows it.
- Gene 
= end of missive ===
 And so, Gene was prophetic.
 When the web-moderators at LENR were upset about
calibrations, 
or noise measurement, or especially those darn calibrations that
semiquantitatively 
correct their errors secondary to Bernard instability, or
anything else
as Jed posted,  they censored them. 


Rothwell continues:
There may be four
formats and there may be a dozen, but I could not read a single byte.
Swartz will have to do what 200 other authors have done. They had no
difficulty, and neither will he. As much as I might like to make an
exception and bend over backwards for him, I could not read the media he
sent and I threw it away, so there is nothing more I can do.
Swartz should upload the papers on his own site, and give me the URL, so
I can download them and prepare them for LENR-CANR.org. For that matter,
he should give everyone the URL.
- Jed
 Actually, the offer stands exactly as before.
Any vort, student, or scientist who would like a copy of
the
paper prepublication, please send me a private email,
subject: Photoinduced Excess Heat,
and I will send a copy of the manuscript thereafter by email.
 The paper itself runs about 2 Megabytes in a pdf file.
 Other papers on cold fusion science and engineering
not available elsewhere but published will shortly
be available at the COLD FUSION TIMES
web site
http://world.std.com/~mica/cft.html
and the JET Thermal Products web site
at
http://world.std.com/~mica/jet.html
The second website includes a page showing our public
demonstration
of cold fusion, which was openly shown at MIT during the last week
of August 2003 at ICCF-10.
http://world.std.com/~mica/jeticcf10demo.html

 They will be out in the Proceedings in any case.
 I agree with Dr. Mallove's assessment,
and do wish that I had spoken to him about this more
(and so much else) when there was time, over a nice meal.
 Dr. Mitchell Swartz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]






Authors have been very cooperative

2004-08-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote:
Swartz will have to do what 200 other authors have done. They had no 
difficulty, and neither will he.

Just to amplify that, and give credit where it is due, let me point out 
that two of these authors have been Nobel laureates, and several are among 
the greatest electrochemists who ever lived, including Fleischmann, Bockris 
and Oriani. Many others have had great difficulty communicating in English, 
especially researchers from Russia, China and Japan. As one who struggles 
daily with a second language, I am impressed and gratified by their efforts 
to prepare papers conscientiously and to correct mistakes in English 
grammar. Many of these researchers are elderly scientists who are not 
familiar with computers, but they have gone to great lengths to prepare the 
papers according to specifications and provide them to the ICCF conference, 
and to me, in the requested formats, with the proper page length.

By and large, with just a few small exceptions, the researchers who have 
contributed papers to LENR-CANR have been the soul of cooperation, even 
though they are all busy people and many of them are famous busy people. If 
they can make the effort to prepare material in the proper format, so can 
Mitchell Swartz. He should stop making excuses, blaming other people, and 
spreading ridiculous allegations. If he does not wish to post his paper on 
LENR-CANR.org, he should post it on his own web site and give the readers 
of this forum the URL. Why is this so difficult? Why should it be the least 
bit controversial?

- Jed 




Re: Authors have been very cooperative

2004-08-21 Thread Mitchell Swartz



Mr. Rothwell remains argumentative to point away from 
censorship at the LENR-CANR site, about which he protests too much.
The censorship has been noted by me, others, 
and the late Dr. Eugene Mallove.
Here is yet another additional corroboration 
taken from email written by our mutual late friend,
Dr. Eugene Mallove. It is about
Storms/Rothwell censorship and Gene picked the title.
In the missive. Dr. Mallove informed me about a
vortex post which I had missed, but which HE 
thought important, and he wrote his thoughtful and
now-relevant comment below. 
I wished I had looked closer before this latest denial by the
Rothwell.
== EMAIL from Dr. Eugene Mallove=
 Subject: Storms/Rothwell censorship
=
User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004
Subject: Storms/Rothwell censorship 
From: Eugene F. Mallove [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Mitchell Swartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Mitch,
FYI -- this was a message that Rothwell posted to Vortex about a
month ago:
At LENR-CANR.org we have censored out some of the controversial
claims
related to CF, such as transmuting macroscopic amounts of gold, or
biological transmutations, along with some of the extremely
unconventional
theories. This is not because we (Storms and Rothwell) oppose these
claims,
or because we are upset by them. It is for political reasons only. The
goal
of LENR-CANR is to convince mainstream scientists that CF is real.
This
goal would be hampered by presenting such extreme views. Actually, I
have
no opinion about most theories, and I could not care less how weird
the
data may seem. At the Scientific American and the APS they feel
hostility
toward such things. They have a sense that publishing such data will
harm
their readers and sully the traditions and reputation of academic
science.
I am not a member of the congregation at the Church of Academic
Science,
and I could not care less about the Goddess Academia's Sacred Reputation.
I
don't publish because of politics and limited web space.
- Jed
This is known as science by politics -- it is disgusting.
Storms doesn't
have leg to stand on and he knows it.
- Gene 
= end of missive ===
 And so, Gene was prophetic.
 I agree with Dr. Mallove's assessment,
and do wish that I had spoken to him about this more
(and so much else) when there was time, over a nice meal.
  When the web-moderators at LENR were upset about
calibrations, 
or noise measurement, or especially those darn calibrations that
semiquantitatively 
correct their errors secondary to Bernard instability, or
anything else
as Jed posted,  they censored them. 

 Actually, the offer stands exactly as before.
Jed has the papers on pdf, but does not like that he does not have
access to cut and paste for his not-quite-clear
reasons.
 As before, any vort, student, or scientist want to
bypass
the censored LENR-CANR site, who would like a copy of the
paper prepublication, 
please send me a private email,
subject: Photoinduced Excess Heat
and I will send a copy of the manuscript thereafter by email.
 The paper itself runs about 2 Megabytes in a pdf file.
 Other papers on cold fusion science and engineering
not available elsewhere but published will shortly
be available at the COLD FUSION TIMES
web site
http://world.std.com/~mica/cft.html
and the JET Thermal Products web site
at
http://world.std.com/~mica/jet.html
The second website includes a page showing our public
demonstration
of cold fusion, which was openly shown at MIT during the last week
of August 2003 at ICCF-10.
http://world.std.com/~mica/jeticcf10demo.html
 

 Dr. Mitchell Swartz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]