[Vo]: TEST
Really. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://users.bigpond.net.au/rvanspaa/ Competition provides the motivation, Cooperation provides the means.
[Vo]: Re: Anions Anonymous and Waterfuel/Joe Cell Entropy
Creating a Sonic BOOM on his way to the john, "Superman" Jones Beene wrote. Fred probably has an opinion of what the total energy could be... Auto-Ionization of water (- 80 kJ/mole) and hydration of ions ~1,000 kJ/mole) should increase entropy, no? http://www.wwnorton.com/chemistry/concepts/chapter13/ch13_2.htm#1 Gibbs Free Energy: http://members.aol.com/profchm/gibbs.html OTOH, Gas Phase Recombination of Electrons with Protons (13.6 eV, 1,310 kJ/mole) to form H, then H + OH H2O (~ 5.2 eV, 498 kJ/mole) in an ICE increases Entropy a lot more than the condensed phase (1,080 kJ/mole) Auto-Ionization-Hydration of ions,which gives 498 kJ/mole + 230 kJ/mole = 728 kJ/mole "Free Energy" for engine work from the Waterfuel/Joe Cell,no? Fred
Re: [Vo]: The Military and Hubbert
On 7/26/06, Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For a very interesting read see also http://www.greatchange.org/ov-simmons,club_of_rome_revisted.html I read this book when I was in college! Thanks for reminding me of it. I came up with an excellent solution: all we need to do is shrink humans and all our technology to a much smaller size and the resources would last much longer. ;-) And, yes, I was smokin' wacky tobaccy back then. Terry
[VO]:Re: The Miolitary and Hubbert
Robin referred to link below.. http://www.greatchange.org/ov-simmons,club_of_rome_revisted.html Howdy Robin, Simmons has been a favorite reference for oil and gas(OG) people in Texas. Interesting report to gether with the website.. don't miss the rest of it. Left unmentioned in much of the energy forecasts is the economic warps created by " credit cards" and their role in new financial programs like reverse and 2nd mortgages. While Simmons does a great job in OGtrending studiesthefinancial worlduses the daily reports ofWall Street where not anly is everything for sale but has a published bid price. These bids and prices include the value of a nation when you think about it. It will not be energy nor food that determines outcome.. it will be credit. Richard
[Vo]: Atomic Coherency
Coherency is a most important meta-phenomenon. It is capable of completely changing the ordinary into the extraordinary - such as when a beam of light, with the intensity of a lightbulb, say, becomes coherent ... transforming into a laser - capable of cutting through steel or bouncing off a mirror millions of miles away on the moon . Coherency is a wave phenomenon - an ordering of the wave - but oddly enough that fact does not eliminate the possibility that atoms - as well as photons - can become coherent in their wave properties. Atoms have that duality of being both a wave and a particle - depending on which side of the bed you got up on this morning, so to speak. Actually we already know that they have this feature at low temperature - and have even given this phenomenon a name: the BEC or Bose-Einstein Condensate. In this case, the meaning of condensate and coherency are almost the same. Today this story appeared in the Science News: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/07/060727100629.htm Helium Atoms Sent By Nozzle May Light Way For New Imaging Approach A newly devised nozzle fitted with a pinhole-sized capillary has allowed researchers to distribute helium atoms with X-ray-like waves on randomly shaped surfaces. The technique could power the development of a new microscope for nanotechnology, allowing for a non-invasive, high-resolution approach to studying both organic and inorganic materials. END of quote. Basically what they have done is achieved a limited form of atomic wave coherency in helium atoms at high temperature. If I have not read too much into this story ( a not-uncommon occurrence, so would say) then the implications are rather provocative. OK --- they have merely developed this technique for imaging - now. And although there is no mention in the article - one wonders about this kind of atomic coherency feature, perhaps enhanced to cover another wave property, but used in energy situations. Yup a leaner-meaner LENR. Put on your thinking cap for a second - Vos. Does anything pop out at you in the realm of LENR ? I'll give you a moment of contemplation before providing one possibility for a leaner-meaner LENR, in another posting. Jones
[Vo]: HELP a computer dummy Just a test..subject keeps..
Dear Vo, I am trying to retain the digest of Vortex... by get rid of the each-and-every-one letter/post. Can one of you wonderful Vortexiallia let me know BBGB... how to get the post away... but keep the digest? Thanks John Herman On 7/26/06, RC Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy John Berry, Interesting thought regarding parallel lines of force. You may expand on the thought and receive more input form others in the group. Regarding missing e-mail posts and messages, we have been experiencing power outages in key locations in the US like St.Louis. The internet is subject to power outages just like my lightbulbs at home. During the past few months there has been some internet magic taking place. I will leave it up to others to speculate and/or identify this magic, be it key location power outage, mid-east rowdy boys playing games or big uncle protecting us from ourselves. Go figure. Richard
Re: [Vo]: HELP a computer dummy Just a test..subject keeps..
To unsubscribe from individual emails send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the subject header. If you haven't already subscribed to the digest, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word subscribe in the subject header. No words are required in the message body for either. Regards, Terry On 7/27/06, john herman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Vo, I am trying to retain the digest of Vortex... by get rid of the each-and-every-one letter/post. Can one of you wonderful Vortexiallia let me know BBGB... how to get the post away... but keep the digest? Thanks John Herman On 7/26/06, RC Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy John Berry, Interesting thought regarding parallel lines of force. You may expand on the thought and receive more input form others in the group. Regarding missing e-mail posts and messages, we have been experiencing power outages in key locations in the US like St.Louis. The internet is subject to power outages just like my lightbulbs at home. During the past few months there has been some internet magic taking place. I will leave it up to others to speculate and/or identify this magic, be it key location power outage, mid-east rowdy boys playing games or big uncle protecting us from ourselves. Go figure. Richard
Re: [Vo]: The Military and Hubbert
Terry Blanton wrote: On 7/26/06, Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For a very interesting read see also http://www.greatchange.org/ov-simmons,club_of_rome_revisted.html I read this book when I was in college! Thanks for reminding me of it. I came up with an excellent solution: all we need to do is shrink humans and all our technology to a much smaller size and the resources would last much longer. ;-) And, yes, I was smokin' wacky tobaccy back then. Terry But did you inhale? Harry
[Vo]: digest only
Dear Vo, I am trying to retain the "digest" of Vortex... by get rid of the each-and-every-one letter/post. Can one of you wonderful Vortexiallia let me know BBGB... how to get the post away... but keep the digest? Thanks John Herman I to don't want my inbox clutttered up with incoming mail. I block mail from vortex and open up the digest on the internet when I want to read it. vortex-l Frank Znidarsic
[Vo]: HELP HELP two [2] times??? only
Dear Frank, and all vo That is JUST fine but... I DO NOT KNOW how to do that!!! Will someone PLEASE help a computer illiterattaiieie? On 7/27/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Vo, I am trying to retain the digest of Vortex... by get rid of the each-and-every-one letter/post. Can one of you wonderful Vortexiallia let me know BBGB... how to get the post away... but keep the digest? Thanks John Herman I to don't want my inbox clutttered up with incoming mail. I block mail from vortex and open up the digest on the internet when I want to read it. vortex-l Frank Znidarsic
RE: [Vo]: The Military and Hubbert
Nor does it take into effect phenomenon like old/tapped wells filling back up by unknown means (does anyone really still believe decayed organic material is the sole/primary feedstock?). Nor does it take into effect population adjusters like war, global epidemics, and environmental disasters. Running out of oil will be the least of our concerns if we have a sudden on-set of another ice age due to pole flip or planet warming (geothermal magnetic induction, green house gas run-away, solar output increases, etc.) I put these analysis in the same column as the 5-day weather forecast. Possibly true, but likely not going to happen like that. -john -Original Message- From: Robin van Spaandonk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 10:18 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]: The Military and Hubbert In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Wed, 26 Jul 2006 21:32:07 -0400: Hi, [snip] If we maintain a mean consumption of 10^8 barrels per day (it's around 88 mbpd now), 10^12 will last 10^4 days, or totally deplete in 2033. We will be bankrupt and dead long before that. Idiots. [snip] If you start at the current usage and calculate in an annual growth rate of 2%, it will only last till 2030. World population growth rate is currently about 1.14% (and has been dropping, see http://www.indexmundi.com/g/g.aspx?c=xxv=24), but industrial development means that fuel consumption grows faster than the population. Even at 1.14% it would only last until 2033. Nevertheless, the 1E12 bbl estimate apparently doesn't include the shale oil in the US, which should roughly double the total reserves (See http://www.worldenergy.org/wec-geis/publications/reports/ser/shale/shale.asp ). Taking this into account and still assuming a growth rate of only 1.14%, we have till 2053. At 2% it would last till 2046. BTW none of the above takes into account that rising prices will suppress demand. For a very interesting read see also http://www.greatchange.org/ov-simmons,club_of_rome_revisted.html Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://users.bigpond.net.au/rvanspaa/ Competition provides the motivation, Cooperation provides the means.
RE: [Vo]: The Military and Hubbert
One side makes you tall, one side makes you small says the Major. 8^) -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 6:44 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]: The Military and Hubbert On 7/26/06, Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For a very interesting read see also http://www.greatchange.org/ov-simmons,club_of_rome_revisted.html I read this book when I was in college! Thanks for reminding me of it. I came up with an excellent solution: all we need to do is shrink humans and all our technology to a much smaller size and the resources would last much longer. ;-) And, yes, I was smokin' wacky tobaccy back then. Terry
