Re: [VO]:Chicken Little The Sky is Falling
Hi Richard, We may be entering the long severe phase of the drought cycle (over 100 years?) that in the past wiped out the Anasasi. Jack Smith R C Macaulay wrote: We are entering the second year phase of a drouth in the Texas- Midwest region and a certain Californio area that is beginning to get scary. Lack of rainfall this year can have a double whammy impact on food grains at a time when the nation's grain stores are already below makeup rates from the world give-away food programs. Water may become more valuable than rotgut whiskey. The last big drouth here lasted 7 years beginning in year 1950. Water is often overlooked in the grand scheme of things but a shortage does have a way of getting attention.. especially if we dont get enough rain to make a grain harvest this fall.. Richard
Re: Celani electromigration paper (was Re: [Vo]:Dardik...)
On Jan 31, 2009, at 2:36 PM, Michel Jullian wrote: 2009/1/27 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com: ... This paper is slightly revised: Celani, F., et al. Deuteron Electromigration in Thin Pd Wires Coated With Nano-Particles: Evidence for Ultra-Fast Deuterium Loading and Anomalous, Large Thermal Effects. in ICCF-14 International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science. 2008. Washington, DC. http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/CelaniFdeuteronel.pdf I was wondering, could the electromigration pressure possibly induce deuterium desorption at the negative end of the Pd wire, anyone knows? Michel P.S. typo: braded should be braided. I would expect there to be periodiic desorption along the entire length of the cathode wire because both the electromigration and loading is driven by 1-2 microsecond pulses, to maximums of 300 V and 150 A, applied at a rate of up to 30 kHz. This implies to me the concentration in the surface of the *entire cathode wire* increases for about 1 microsecond of each pulse and decreases for the interim rest period. I think this is true whether or not the cathode potential is sustained below some maximum negative voltage, i.e. sustained as a cathode throughout each cycle. Celani states the electromigration reaches/creates a [longitudinal] equilibrium concentration gradient. However, since the loading current itself drives the entire process, once the loading process completes by reaching equilibrium I would expect the peak instantaneous radial electromigration each cycle to far exceed the peak instantaneous longitudinal migration, both positively and negatively. Almost the entire 300 V potential is applied radially to the wire surface, while the longitudinal potential drop through the wire itself, i.e. the longitudinal i*R drop, is comparatively small, and the internal longitudinal field strength very small. Also notable is the fact the vast majority of the longitudinal current through the wire is via electrons. The net longitudinal electromigration current is thus very small. I think the hydrogen component of the electromigration current is essentially a purely AC current once equilibrium is reached, and that the radial pressure driven (or concentration driven) component of hydrogen flux far exceeds the longitudinally driven electromigration component of the hydrogen flux. I would think it might be more effective (to isolate and determine the actual effects of electromigration itself) to drive the longitudinal electromigration via an A/C process via an A/C potential applied through the cathode wire directly, while maintaining loading by sustaining the cathode at a high DC potential. BTW, it has been known since early on that pulsed DC, i.e. pulsed A/C imposed over the DC cathodic current was more effective at generating excess heat, though use of this technique caused a lot of controversy regarding power measurements. Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
Re: [Vo]:Pickens wrong about trucks
--- thomas malloy temall...@usfamily.net wrote: If I were appointed the car czar, I would require the vehicle's design to be reviewed by a panel of mechanics. That's a bloody good idea, speaking from a mechanic's point of view. The trash being sold for $20k+ these days is absolutely pathetic compared to what could be. Mercedes-Benz ML320 has for balljoints in the rear, made of aluminum (the metal that should be forbidden) and plastic. Each part costs $350+, with labor times to replace being about an hour per ball joint, plus time to disassemble the control arms to a point where the joints can be pressed out. The control arms are aluminum too, and sometimes crack. Also, aluminum does not rust in the saltwater environment...it DISINTEGRATES. 2006 ML320 required all four rear joints to be replaced, no warranty coverage. 51k miles. EGR systems on most modern cars fill with carbon after a relatively short time. Asian/European cars do this the worst. Terrible designs. The old, vacuum operated EGR valves in Chevrolets almost never did this. But that's the inexorable march of progress. Evaporative emissions system (stupidest idea ever) is the absolute king of failure these days. Most 1996+ cars fail low-enhanced emission test because of this pointless system. It is designed to fail. All plastic parts, overly complicated. Should be forbidden to be placed on vehicles. Either do something useful with the vapor, or forget about it. Besides, everyone is looking at CO2 these days anyways, their eyes are averted from things that are really dangerous (which this isn't, anyhow). The objective being to assure that they are easily fixable. I'd require a stainless steel underpan so that road salt wouldn't rot them out. Such a vehicle would last 1,000,000 miles. The economics of such a vehicle are totally different from one designed to cost too much to fix at 100,000 miles. Easily fixable is a very good thing, in my opinion. Making a car from stainless steel might jack up the price a bit. It is hard to weld, and 'cold welds' itself at times. But there might be a way around all this. I doubt it would last 1M miles without repair, but if you mean the actual vehicle structure would last that long, it might. Rust is the killer up here. It wouldn't be too economical to the manufacturer to make something that lasted that long without needing repairs. Of course, given that so many today think making the USA --- USSA is a good idea, many might flock to the idea. That might not be the company you want to keep, though. :) A simple reduction in the amount of bullcrap(tm) in a modern auto would DRASTICALLY reduce the price. --Kyle
Re: Celani electromigration paper (was Re: [Vo]:Dardik...)
Please ignore my post below. I confused the earlier work with the present experiment. Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/ On Feb 1, 2009, at 6:46 AM, Horace Heffner wrote: On Jan 31, 2009, at 2:36 PM, Michel Jullian wrote: 2009/1/27 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com: ... This paper is slightly revised: Celani, F., et al. Deuteron Electromigration in Thin Pd Wires Coated With Nano-Particles: Evidence for Ultra-Fast Deuterium Loading and Anomalous, Large Thermal Effects. in ICCF-14 International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science. 2008. Washington, DC. http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/CelaniFdeuteronel.pdf I was wondering, could the electromigration pressure possibly induce deuterium desorption at the negative end of the Pd wire, anyone knows? Michel P.S. typo: braded should be braided. I would expect there to be periodiic desorption along the entire length of the cathode wire because both the electromigration and loading is driven by 1-2 microsecond pulses, to maximums of 300 V and 150 A, applied at a rate of up to 30 kHz. This implies to me the concentration in the surface of the *entire cathode wire* increases for about 1 microsecond of each pulse and decreases for the interim rest period. I think this is true whether or not the cathode potential is sustained below some maximum negative voltage, i.e. sustained as a cathode throughout each cycle. Celani states the electromigration reaches/creates a [longitudinal] equilibrium concentration gradient. However, since the loading current itself drives the entire process, once the loading process completes by reaching equilibrium I would expect the peak instantaneous radial electromigration each cycle to far exceed the peak instantaneous longitudinal migration, both positively and negatively. Almost the entire 300 V potential is applied radially to the wire surface, while the longitudinal potential drop through the wire itself, i.e. the longitudinal i*R drop, is comparatively small, and the internal longitudinal field strength very small. Also notable is the fact the vast majority of the longitudinal current through the wire is via electrons. The net longitudinal electromigration current is thus very small. I think the hydrogen component of the electromigration current is essentially a purely AC current once equilibrium is reached, and that the radial pressure driven (or concentration driven) component of hydrogen flux far exceeds the longitudinally driven electromigration component of the hydrogen flux. I would think it might be more effective (to isolate and determine the actual effects of electromigration itself) to drive the longitudinal electromigration via an A/C process via an A/C potential applied through the cathode wire directly, while maintaining loading by sustaining the cathode at a high DC potential. BTW, it has been known since early on that pulsed DC, i.e. pulsed A/C imposed over the DC cathodic current was more effective at generating excess heat, though use of this technique caused a lot of controversy regarding power measurements. Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
Re: [Vo]:Who's got who is who's pocket
In reply to thomas malloy's message of Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:25:42 -0600 (CST): Hi, [snip] Capitalism is a mechanism for wealth production. It works quite well, individual incentive, like every time it's been tried. IMHO, what you don't like is private enterprise in the pocket of government, AKA fascism. I think that should be government in the pocket of private enterprise...;) You've got it backwards Robin, look at who has got all the guns. No, I have it the right way around, you are the one who has it backwards. Fascism is government in the pocket of business. Business in the pocket of government (to the point that it is owned outright by government) is communism. The former is extreme right wing, the latter extreme left wing. IMO neither of which is desirable for a free, prosperous and happy society, which is generally somewhere in the middle, with as little as possible of either extreme. A good example of government in the pocket of business is the USA, and I suspect Israel. Cuba and China are of course the obvious examples of business in the pocket of government, though China is complicated, being in transition. Russia is also a still a reasonable example of this, despite now ostensibly being a Western capitalist democracy. Some of the ideas and attitudes of it's communist past still linger. It is also still in transition. The government may have the guns, but the power lies where the money is. That's what gives the Oligarchy power over governments, the media, and the people. It is more subtle, and thus not so obvious, but of tremendous influence nevertheless. In fairness to your ideas however, certain wealthy people, who have been called the Oligarchy, are advancing a G-dless agenda which includes population reduction, Population reduction is a good idea, but it should be completely voluntary, not enforced, and it should come about through a reduction in the number of children conceived, not through an increase in the death rate. At our current level of technological development, the World is already overpopulated, witness the thousands that are starving to death in the third World. Much of the strife on the planet currently is directly or indirectly due to competition for resources. If the population were lower, the competition wouldn't be so fierce, and the World might be a more peaceful place. BTW, the current rate of population growth World wide is on the order of 1.2% per annum. Now apply the concept of compound interest to that for a thousand years, and see what happens:- 1.012 ^ 1000 = 151535 x 6 billion = 900 trillion for a hundred years:- 1.012 ^ 100 = 3.2 x 6 billion = 19.2 billion Doubling time = 58.1 years. A quote (can't remember the source) - If we don't reduce the population by decreasing the birth rate, Nature will reduce it by increasing the death rate. Note also that in several Western nations, the population is actually decreasing, which leads some to the conclusion that affluence reduces the birth rate. Based upon this assumption, the introduction of fusion power (in whatever form), should extend that affluence to the entire planet, and hence help to stabilize the population (i.e. reduce the growth rate to zero, or perhaps, with a little luck, make it negative). sexual immorality, deliberate dumbing down of the population, and the omnipotent government. Read Brave New World. I read Brave New World decades ago (also Orwell's 1984). Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/Project.html
Re: [VO]:Chicken Little The Sky is Falling
In reply to Taylor J. Smith's message of Sun, 01 Feb 2009 14:59:28 +: Hi, [snip] Hi Richard, We may be entering the long severe phase of the drought cycle (over 100 years?) that in the past wiped out the Anasasi. Jack Smith This year is La Nina, dry in the USA, wet in Australia. [snip] Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/Project.html
[Vo]:There's a little black spot . . .
. . . on the sun today. Actually, last week: http://www.spaceweather.com/archive.php?month=01day=27year=2009view=view Nothing more than a pimple, tho. Terry That's my Sol up there.
Re: [Vo]:There's a little black spot . . .
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Sun, 1 Feb 2009 16:23:42 -0500: Hi, [snip] . . . on the sun today. Actually, last week: http://www.spaceweather.com/archive.php?month=01day=27year=2009view=view Nothing more than a pimple, tho. Terry That's my Sol up there. ...are you going to start charging for the use of it? ;) Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/Project.html
Re: [VO]:Chicken Little The Sky is Falling
Howdy Jack, Interesting observation. Better evidence indicates the Anasasi ( those who came before) passed into obvilion in a short less than a30 year time frame somewhere around the 12 th century AD. Spent some time at Aztec, New Mexico studying the ruins of an ancient farming village along side the Animas River trying to understand the connection between such a village and the cliff dwellings further n w around the 4 corners. I concluded the Anasasi lived and farmed where food crops could thrive near water .. and.. the cliff dwellings were more for religious and educational purposes where some would go on a sabbatical. Cliff dwellings make for poor habitation and defense. A severe drouth of 100 years would have killed off the population in the first 7+1=8 years since God only made food grains survive 7 years according to ole Joseph's account to Pharoah. There are always a few survivors in any conflagration. The Sky people further south called themselves Zuni which may be some of the survivors.. Dry times.. While serving on the state water planning board, I made the mistake of stating people should never build cities in the desert like San Antonio or El Paso Texas.. the comment made during a public meeting near ole S.A. sorta went over like a lead balloon. Hi Richard, We may be entering the long severe phase of the drought cycle (over 100 years?) that in the past wiped out the Anasasi. Jack Smith R C Macaulay wrote: We are entering the second year phase of a drouth in the Texas- Midwest region and a certain Californio area that is beginning to get scary. Lack of rainfall this year can have a double whammy impact on food grains at a time when the nation's grain stores are already below makeup rates from the world give-away food programs. Water may become more valuable than rotgut whiskey. The last big drouth here lasted 7 years beginning in year 1950. Water is often overlooked in the grand scheme of things but a shortage does have a way of getting attention.. especially if we dont get enough rain to make a grain harvest this fall.. Richard
Re: [Vo]:There's a little black spot . . .
Yeah, if I can find a way to meter it. :-) Terry On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 5:02 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Sun, 1 Feb 2009 16:23:42 -0500: Hi, [snip] . . . on the sun today. Actually, last week: http://www.spaceweather.com/archive.php?month=01day=27year=2009view=view Nothing more than a pimple, tho. Terry That's my Sol up there. ...are you going to start charging for the use of it? ;) Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/Project.html
Re: [Vo]:Pickens wrong about trucks
Howdy Kyle, Yep!, you been a mechanic. The US auto industry basked in their glory days after WW2 and by 1950 had performed the miracle of reverse engineering from a fair to middlin' 1940 model into a 1950 disaster that did not recover until the Japanese stumbled across the how to book written by the master at GM way back when. Japan finally got the joke around 1980 and concentrated on quality which forced US makers to start putting all the gears that belonged in the transmission. By the 90's the US caught on to the shell game Japan and Germany had going by building the vehicle in sucha way that only a wizard could work on one. Like, try to replace the fuel pump on a 1982 Mitsibishi car engine or a chev 2003 PU 1500 series windshield washer plastic tank. Fortunately , all this came much later than WW2. GM and Int'l Harvester built a 2 1/2 ton GI 6x6 that won WW2 in Europe. These 270 cu.in 6 cylinder engines were repairable all the way down to wet sleeves. Had a buddy that served as a motor sgt for Patton. He told of Patton coming up to the front line where his tank batallion was stalled at a river. Patton order his motor sgt to run the 6x6 's into the river until they formed a bridge so the tanks could cross. Later, the motor sgt was court marshaled for destruction of gov't property. Richard --- thomas malloy temall...@usfamily.net wrote: If I were appointed the car czar, I would require the vehicle's design to be reviewed by a panel of mechanics. Kyle wrote, That's a bloody good idea, speaking from a mechanic's point of view. The trash being sold for $20k+ these days is absolutely pathetic compared to what could be.
[VO]: Strong Man
Howdy Vorts, Talked with an old friend with family in Texas banking more than 140 years. He asked me what I thought of the bailout proceedings. I mentioned it looked more like another prelude to the Weimar Republic over in Germany after WW1. He asked me about the rise of Hitler afterwards and I allowed that history has a way of creating a sorta slingshot effect like happened at that time.. I said.. now it's my turn.. as an owner of several Texas banks.. what are your thoughts? He paused and said.. I think the Weimar Republic experience was a prelude... only this time it's not going to be another prelude..but the real thing. I asked ..will it include a strong man rising afterwards?? He said.. Richard.. I see you know your Bible.
Re: [VO]:Chicken Little The Sky is Falling
In reply to R C Macaulay's message of Sun, 1 Feb 2009 17:47:17 -0600: Hi, [snip] Dry times.. While serving on the state water planning board, I made the mistake of stating people should never build cities in the desert like San Antonio or El Paso Texas.. the comment made during a public meeting near ole S.A. sorta went over like a lead balloon. [snip] IMO all cities should be built on land that's useless for anything else, leaving the arable land for farming. Then the waste water from the cities should be treated and fed to bio-fuel plantations. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/Project.html
Re: [Vo]:There's a little black spot . . .
blackhead? - Original Message - From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com Date: Sunday, February 1, 2009 4:23 pm Subject: [Vo]:There's a little black spot . . . . . . on the sun today. Actually, last week: http://www.spaceweather.com/archive.php?month=01day=27year=2009view=view Nothing more than a pimple, tho. Terry That's my Sol up there.
