Re: [Vo]:Hundreds of billions for alternative energy, nothing for cold fusion

2009-02-25 Thread thomas malloy

Jed Rothwell wrote:


Jones Beene wrote:

I suspect that Pelosi, in particular, will have an open-ear to 
rooting out deliberate attempts to prevert the obvious intent of this 
important legislation.



If anyone could get through to Pelosi with a letter suggesting that 
she consider funding cold fusion, she would give the letter to a 
scientific advisor. Dollars to doughnuts that advisor would glance at 
the letter for a moment, see t



Contact Minnesota's Senator, Amy Klobuchar. She read my letter on 
stopping the suppression, and she is on a committee charged with 
cleaning up the environment. I would suggest that someone with Ed 
Storms' credentials talk to her about the LENT reactor's radioneuclide 
remediation.




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Re: [Vo]:OT - "The Rapture"

2009-02-25 Thread leaking pen
My thought has always been, if god created man in "his" own image, and
man is inherently sinful...


On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 11:06 PM, thomas malloy  wrote:
> OrionWorks wrote:
>
>> Hi Thomas,
>>
>> You have stated most succinctly that in order to be accepted in what
>>
>>>
>>> Believe, be baptized, follow the 10 commandments, love your fellow man
>>> as your self. That is the minimum.
>>>
>>> Another distinguished Vort member, Leak, has already responded with
>>> what Jesus had to say on this subject.
>>>
>>> As for my personal thoughts on the matter I would like to point out a
>>> few things you previously stated:
>>>
>>> A Holy G-d is obligated, because he is holy, to bring about
>>> the expiation of sin from the world. I'd love to do something
>>>
>>
>> Perhaps I misunderstood your use of the wording here because I find it
>> odd to claim G-d is "obligated" to do anything. If he/she is
>>
>
> It has to do with his nature, of which Kodeshim (holiness) is an integral
> part.  BTW, the Hebrew text makes it plain that G-d is a plurality of
> personages (see the three pillars of the Medatron in the Zohar) at least one
> of which is male. The Holy Spirit, OTOH, is female. Also consider this, what
> to you think would happen if the human race, in it's present sinful
> condition, got loose in the galaxy?
>
>> But that's really not what I want to discuss. You state: "... this
>> expiation will require blood shed, if I were to do that, I would be a
>> bigger murder than Joseph Stalin."
>>
>> Those are heavy words, Thomas. Such a statement causes me to wonder
>> how you are able to personally reconcile what is considered to be one
>>
>
> Consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds.
>
>> of G-d's most important commandments, which you clearly state is,
>>
>> Nazis attempted to do to the Jews during
>> WWII? If this is a fairly accurate assumption on my part I find myself
>>
>
> Lucifer delights in producing counterfeits of G-d's plans. the Nazi's were
> honoring the gods that they worshiped, the pagan pantheon. As for innocent
> blood being required for the expiation of sin, explaining that is beyond my
> pay grade.
>
>> Is it because He is the
>> ultimate Boss, and what the Boss sez and wantz ...the Boss getz?
>>
>
> Rank has it's privileges. I see it in the light of a chemist doing what is
> necessary in order to make the reaction go in the desired way.
>
>> The way you seem to be describing G-d's mysterious ways, I can't help
>> but point out something obvious: What kind of example is G-d setting
>> for his beloved creations if it is so written that he so commands his
>>
>
> I'm assuming that Lucifer's rebellion was a necessary element in the plan.
> It seems that beings who have free will, can choose to follow Kodeshim or
> not. It's kind of like destructive testing under load. It appears that is
> the only way in which he can differentiate between the two.
>
>> perform the
>> necessary "...blood shed" himself - presumably to set things right in
>> this world.
>>
>
> On that note, let me mention Isaiah 63. Our eschatologists put that at end
> of the Tribulation, where Yeshua deals with a remnant of Edom which has
> survived the ordeal which has afflicted the rest of the world.
>
>
>> To me, such divine privilege does not come off as a perception of an
>> all-knowing, wise, and loving G-d.
>
> If he can tell which sentient, free willed entities will fail the test
> without testing, then G-d has gone to a lot of trouble for nothing. Also
> there is the matter of the Wheat and the Tares. Lucifer spread his seed into
> the same field. I assume that he had to be allowed to do so, since G-d was
> being fair with him.
>
>> Certainly NOT a Role Model to
>> emulate! Rather, it seems more to be the perception of egotistical
>> hypocrite known to have proclaimed: "BELIEVE IN ME And while you
>> are believing in me: Do as I say, not what I personally do."
>>
>
> You clearly don't understand Kodeshim. Ditto for the nature of the universe.
>
>> Jed, I ain't no atheist myself, but right now I do think I would
>> prefer the company of a gathering of atheists. Would you please put in
>> a good word for me? ;-)
>>
>
> The Council of the Ung-dly, Psalm 1, will take in anyone.
>
>
>
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Re: [Vo]:Hundreds of billions for alternative energy, nothing for cold fusion

2009-02-25 Thread thomas malloy

Jones Beene wrote:


Jed Rothwell wrote:

> Where does that conclusion come from?

Well, I am not so naive as to believe that the wording of a funding 
act will magically change ingrained opinions at the highest level, but 
you should read closely the wording the American Recovery and 
Reinvestment Act  
which became law on 17 February 2009.


AKA, the Porkulus. It's intention was to grease the palms of the various 
left wing special interest groups which put the present government in 
power. BTW, Nancy Polisi included some provisions which enriched her 
husband, well why not? Rank has it's privileges, and to the victor 
belong the spoils, eh?




I suspect that Pelosi, in particular, will have an open-ear to rooting 
out deliberate attempts to prevert the obvious intent of this 
important legislation. Park may still have some kind of a diminishing jo


My answer is that the people who believe as we do, need to start calling 
into radio shows, and other public venues, telling people to do an 
Internet Search under suppression and Zero Point Energy, and see what 
comes up. That and use the term poisoning the atmosphere with CO2. BTW, 
Sterling Allen put me in touch with Dr. Theodore Loder, aero2012. 
science adviser. We had a nice talk. I proposed the same idea to him.




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Re: [Vo]:OT - "The Rapture"

2009-02-25 Thread thomas malloy

OrionWorks wrote:


Hi Thomas,

You have stated most succinctly that in order to be accepted in what
 


Believe, be baptized, follow the 10 commandments, love your fellow man
as your self. That is the minimum.
   


Another distinguished Vort member, Leak, has already responded with
what Jesus had to say on this subject.

As for my personal thoughts on the matter I would like to point out a
few things you previously stated:
   


A Holy G-d is obligated, because he is holy, to bring about
the expiation of sin from the world. I'd love to do something
   


Perhaps I misunderstood your use of the wording here because I find it
odd to claim G-d is "obligated" to do anything. If he/she is
 

It has to do with his nature, of which Kodeshim (holiness) is an 
integral part.  BTW, the Hebrew text makes it plain that G-d is a 
plurality of personages (see the three pillars of the Medatron in the 
Zohar) at least one of which is male. The Holy Spirit, OTOH, is female. 
Also consider this, what to you think would happen if the human race, in 
it's present sinful condition, got loose in the galaxy?



But that's really not what I want to discuss. You state: "... this
expiation will require blood shed, if I were to do that, I would be a
bigger murder than Joseph Stalin."

Those are heavy words, Thomas. Such a statement causes me to wonder
how you are able to personally reconcile what is considered to be one
 


Consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds.


of G-d's most important commandments, which you clearly state is,
 


Nazis attempted to do to the Jews during
WWII? If this is a fairly accurate assumption on my part I find myself
 

Lucifer delights in producing counterfeits of G-d's plans. the Nazi's 
were honoring the gods that they worshiped, the pagan pantheon. As for 
innocent blood being required for the expiation of sin, explaining that 
is beyond my pay grade.



Is it because He is the
ultimate Boss, and what the Boss sez and wantz ...the Boss getz?
 

Rank has it's privileges. I see it in the light of a chemist doing what 
is necessary in order to make the reaction go in the desired way.



The way you seem to be describing G-d's mysterious ways, I can't help
but point out something obvious: What kind of example is G-d setting
for his beloved creations if it is so written that he so commands his
 

I'm assuming that Lucifer's rebellion was a necessary element in the 
plan. It seems that beings who have free will, can choose to follow 
Kodeshim or not. It's kind of like destructive testing under load. It 
appears that is the only way in which he can differentiate between the two.



perform the
necessary "...blood shed" himself - presumably to set things right in
this world.
 

On that note, let me mention Isaiah 63. Our eschatologists put that at 
end of the Tribulation, where Yeshua deals with a remnant of Edom which 
has survived the ordeal which has afflicted the rest of the world.




To me, such divine privilege does not come off as a perception of an
all-knowing, wise, and loving G-d. 

If he can tell which sentient, free willed entities will fail the test 
without testing, then G-d has gone to a lot of trouble for nothing. Also 
there is the matter of the Wheat and the Tares. Lucifer spread his seed 
into the same field. I assume that he had to be allowed to do so, since 
G-d was being fair with him.



Certainly NOT a Role Model to
emulate! Rather, it seems more to be the perception of egotistical
hypocrite known to have proclaimed: "BELIEVE IN ME And while you
are believing in me: Do as I say, not what I personally do."
 

You clearly don't understand Kodeshim. Ditto for the nature of the 
universe.



Jed, I ain't no atheist myself, but right now I do think I would
prefer the company of a gathering of atheists. Would you please put in
a good word for me? ;-)
 


The Council of the Ung-dly, Psalm 1, will take in anyone.



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[Vo]:OT: Galaxy may be full of 'Earths,' alien life

2009-02-25 Thread OrionWorks
Sez cnn.com: "Galaxy may be full of 'Earths,' alien life"

See:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/space/02/25/galaxy.planets.kepler/index.html
http://tinyurl.com/chkcjc

Excerpt:

-
Researchers at the University of Edinburgh in Scotland constructed a
computer model to create a synthetic galaxy with billions of stars and
planets. They then studied how life evolved under various conditions
in this virtual world, using a supercomputer to crunch the results.

In a paper published recently in the International Journal of
Astrobiology, the researchers concluded that based on what they saw,
at least 361 intelligent civilizations have emerged in the Milky Way
since its creation, and as many as 38,000 may have formed.

Duncan Forgan, a doctoral candidate at the university who led the
study, said he was surprised by the hardiness of life on these other
worlds.

"The computer model takes into account what we refer to as resetting
or extinction events. The classic example is the asteroid impact that
may have wiped out the dinosaurs," Forgan said.

"I half-expected these events to disallow the rise of intelligence,
and yet civilizations seemed to flourish."

Forgan readily admits the results are an educated guess at best, since
there are still many unanswered questions about how life formed on
Earth and only limited information about the 330 "exoplanets" -- those
circling sun-like stars outside the solar system -- discovered so far.
-

Wonderin if this means individuals like my step mother's sighting of a
classic flying saucer hovering above her home in Newfoundland,
witnessed back in 1947, might actually be taken a little more
seriously.

Alas... probably not.

Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks



[Vo]:Electrons

2009-02-25 Thread mixent
Hi,

The magnitude of the Bohr magneton is essentially based upon a Bohr orbit. How
is that the intrinsic spin magnetic moment of a point particle electron is so
very close to one Bohr magneton?

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/Project.html



Re: [Vo]:Hundreds of billions for alternative energy, nothing for cold fusion

2009-02-25 Thread Jed Rothwell

I wrote:

. . . if you know someone who knows someone who knows Pelosi . . .

BETTER YET:

If you know someone who knows someone who knows Pelosi's science adviser . . .

Skip the high official. Go to the scientist who has his or her ear.

Even when you write to a scientist you must keep the message very 
short and to-the-point. Don't waste a word. Don't make them dig to 
learn what you are talking about. Be explicit.


It reminds me of old-fashioned advice about how to give an after-dinner speech:

Be witty. Be brief. Be seated.

- Jed



Re: [Vo]:Hundreds of billions for alternative energy, nothing for cold fusion

2009-02-25 Thread Jed Rothwell

Jones Beene wrote:

Moreover, any official at DoE who decides to be influenced by the 
naysayers such as Park . . .


He isn't the only one. Unfortunately, many scientists will not even 
glance at a proposal to do cold fusion. From my point of view, they 
resemble the people at the SEC who refuse to glance at the reports 
indicating that Madoff was a crook, but since there are so many of 
them and since cold fusion has no credibility with them, I think 
there is little likelihood anyone can get a grant application considered.



I suspect that Pelosi, in particular, will have an open-ear to 
rooting out deliberate attempts to prevert the obvious intent of 
this important legislation.


If anyone could get through to Pelosi with a letter suggesting that 
she consider funding cold fusion, she would give the letter to a 
scientific advisor. Dollars to doughnuts that advisor would glance at 
the letter for a moment, see the words "cold fusion," crumple it up, 
and throw it away.


I have spoken with dozens of leading scientists and this is how they 
react. Not all of them of course -- we do have scattered supporters. 
Unfortunately, most of these supporters have no guts and they will 
not draft a letter to Pelosi or anyone else. A letter from a major 
scientist might just get through. A letter from me would go nowhere 
and would be a waste of time to write.


Here is an example of a recent letter from an influential scientist to me:

". . . I've seen some of the literature, including the papers 
presented at last year's Amer. Chem. Socy' mtg. It is vast. My 
impression is that the described results do not congeal around any 
common mechanism, nor any precise way to replicate the results. There 
may be something there. But maybe means, in my mind, probably not. 
When Science or Nature, or a new, third panel from the Nat'l Acad of 
Sciences say there is new physics involved, I'll get very interested. 
For now it looks more like a hobby - just my opinion - than science. . . ."


Below is part of my response back. He said nothing in return, which 
is what I expected. Such people never do respond.


". . . I know nothing about theory, but some theorists tell me that 
the results that have been most widely replicated, such as helium in 
the same ratio to the heat as plasma fusion, do congeal around common 
mechanisms. . . .


[Regarding Nature and Science] the editors at these journals have 
some peculiar and mistaken notions about cold fusion. I can send you 
copies of letters from them to illustrate what I mean, but it is 
unimportant. The important thing is that many scientific disputes 
have arisen and the editors of these particular journals have not 
always been on the winning side. . . .


[Regarding the "hobby" comment] . . . I think you should review the 
literature more carefully before arriving at that conclusion -- or 
any conclusion, positive or negative. Roughly $100 million has been 
devoted to this research worldwide, and roughly 2,000 professional 
scientists have published positive results. Some have devoted 20 
years to the research. They include many distinguished people such as 
the Chairman of the Atomic Energy Commission, Gov't of India. That 
does not sound like a hobby to me.


Bear in mind also that many of these results have been obtained at 
high s/n ratios. It is unlikely that hundreds of experts in 
calorimetry, x-ray detection, tritium detection, mass spectroscopy 
and other well established disciplines have all been making gigantic 
errors for 20 years, or that they are all lying. . . ."


- Jed



Re: [Vo]:Who is John Galt?

2009-02-25 Thread Harry Veeder


- Original Message -
From: Jones Beene 
Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:43 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Who is John Galt?


> Not only that, Christ would shudder at those mindless bigots, like 
> the business owner of a previous posting, who express the sentiment 
> that "I got mine, so why should I help my brothers in need?" 

The "boss" also sounds like the only pleasure he gets out of life is
making money.


Harry



[Vo]:GM Courts EEStor

2009-02-25 Thread Terry Blanton
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13746_7-10155104-48.html

http://gm-volt.com/2009/02/01/gm-admits-to-a-working-relationship-with-eestor/

The second link says that EEStor has a new patent with much more details.

Terry



Re: [Vo]:OT - "The Rapture"

2009-02-25 Thread Edmund Storms
Nicely argued, Steven. Unfortunately Christianity is so filled with  
such obvious conflicts with logic and even with statements in the  
Bible, that a person could spend years trying to  make sense of the  
religion, as some scholars have attempted to do.  Unfortunately, the  
general public does not make much of an effort, being content to  
believe many harmful ideas.  Logic and facts have no effect on such  
beliefs.  Nevertheless, I enjoy reading your efforts.


Ed



On Feb 25, 2009, at 10:17 AM, OrionWorks wrote:


Hi Thomas,

You have stated most succinctly that in order to be accepted in what
seems (at least to me) to comprise a very exclusive membership for
acceptance to The Rapture one must:

Believe, be baptized, follow the 10 commandments, love your fellow  
man

as your self. That is the minimum.


Another distinguished Vort member, Leak, has already responded with
what Jesus had to say on this subject.

As for my personal thoughts on the matter I would like to point out a
few things you previously stated:


A Holy G-d is obligated, because he is holy, to bring about
the expiation of sin from the world. I'd love to do something
about this, but it's not my place. More to the point, this
expiation will require blood shed, if I were to do that, I
would be a bigger murder than Joseph Stalin. I assume that
Joseph believed that he was making the world a better place,
ditto for Hitler, Mao, Pol Pott, Castro.


Perhaps I misunderstood your use of the wording here because I find it
odd to claim G-d is "obligated" to do anything. If he/she is
omniscient why in all the infinite heavens above would such a powerful
being feel any sense of obligation whatsoever. If it is presume She
created all the rules that run our miraculous Universe, who is She
beholding such an "obligation" to??? Someone higher up the chain of
command? And who might that be?

But that's really not what I want to discuss. You state: "... this
expiation will require blood shed, if I were to do that, I would be a
bigger murder than Joseph Stalin."

Those are heavy words, Thomas. Such a statement causes me to wonder
how you are able to personally reconcile what is considered to be one
of G-d's most important commandments, which you clearly state is,
"love your fellow man as your self?" along with what I gather you seem
to perceive is the ultimate requirement of "blood shed" in order to
set things right in this world. Is it the point that you obviously
know it would be wrong of you to personally carry out such "blood
shed" - such as what the Nazis attempted to do to the Jews during
WWII? If this is a fairly accurate assumption on my part I find myself
wondering how you seem to presume that G-d CAN get away with
committing such "blood shed", but not only that, that such "Divine"
action would not be called an atrocity? Is it because He is the
ultimate Boss, and what the Boss sez and wantz ...the Boss getz?

The way you seem to be describing G-d's mysterious ways, I can't help
but point out something obvious: What kind of example is G-d setting
for his beloved creations if it is so written that he so commands his
subjects to "Love thy neighbor as thyself", but then, G-d is allowed
not only to ignore but blatantly break his own rules and perform the
necessary "...blood shed" himself - presumably to set things right in
this world.

To me, such divine privilege does not come off as a perception of an
all-knowing, wise, and loving G-d. Certainly NOT a Role Model to
emulate! Rather, it seems more to be the perception of egotistical
hypocrite known to have proclaimed: "BELIEVE IN ME And while you
are believing in me: Do as I say, not what I personally do."

Jed, I ain't no atheist myself, but right now I do think I would
prefer the company of a gathering of atheists. Would you please put in
a good word for me? ;-)

Regards

Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks





Re: [Vo]:Who is John Galt?

2009-02-25 Thread thomas malloy

Jones Beene wrote:


*From:* Stephen A. Lawrence

Let me remind these John Galt, Rush Bimbo wannabes that if the Christ 
were alive today - he most assuredly would not only be strongly 
socialistic, much more strongly to the left than anyone in the Obama 
camp, but closer to full Communistic in his economic leanings and in


I disagree with you Jones. The essence of any of the varieties of 
socialist regimes is the use of the power of the state, ie, force. This 
is anathema to the Bible. Richard Macaulay are G-d fearers, and we both 
support free market economics. The vast majority of people whose faith 
is based on the Bible are conservative.


Socialism is, IMHO, an attempt on the part of sinful man to reproduce 
the sort of world order that the Bible talks about. That's why it has 
never worked, and never will work.



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Re: [Vo]:OT - "The Rapture"

2009-02-25 Thread OrionWorks
Hi Thomas,

You have stated most succinctly that in order to be accepted in what
seems (at least to me) to comprise a very exclusive membership for
acceptance to The Rapture one must:

> Believe, be baptized, follow the 10 commandments, love your fellow man
> as your self. That is the minimum.

Another distinguished Vort member, Leak, has already responded with
what Jesus had to say on this subject.

As for my personal thoughts on the matter I would like to point out a
few things you previously stated:

> A Holy G-d is obligated, because he is holy, to bring about
> the expiation of sin from the world. I'd love to do something
> about this, but it's not my place. More to the point, this
> expiation will require blood shed, if I were to do that, I
> would be a bigger murder than Joseph Stalin. I assume that
> Joseph believed that he was making the world a better place,
> ditto for Hitler, Mao, Pol Pott, Castro.

Perhaps I misunderstood your use of the wording here because I find it
odd to claim G-d is "obligated" to do anything. If he/she is
omniscient why in all the infinite heavens above would such a powerful
being feel any sense of obligation whatsoever. If it is presume She
created all the rules that run our miraculous Universe, who is She
beholding such an "obligation" to??? Someone higher up the chain of
command? And who might that be?

But that's really not what I want to discuss. You state: "... this
expiation will require blood shed, if I were to do that, I would be a
bigger murder than Joseph Stalin."

Those are heavy words, Thomas. Such a statement causes me to wonder
how you are able to personally reconcile what is considered to be one
of G-d's most important commandments, which you clearly state is,
"love your fellow man as your self?" along with what I gather you seem
to perceive is the ultimate requirement of "blood shed" in order to
set things right in this world. Is it the point that you obviously
know it would be wrong of you to personally carry out such "blood
shed" - such as what the Nazis attempted to do to the Jews during
WWII? If this is a fairly accurate assumption on my part I find myself
wondering how you seem to presume that G-d CAN get away with
committing such "blood shed", but not only that, that such "Divine"
action would not be called an atrocity? Is it because He is the
ultimate Boss, and what the Boss sez and wantz ...the Boss getz?

The way you seem to be describing G-d's mysterious ways, I can't help
but point out something obvious: What kind of example is G-d setting
for his beloved creations if it is so written that he so commands his
subjects to "Love thy neighbor as thyself", but then, G-d is allowed
not only to ignore but blatantly break his own rules and perform the
necessary "...blood shed" himself - presumably to set things right in
this world.

To me, such divine privilege does not come off as a perception of an
all-knowing, wise, and loving G-d. Certainly NOT a Role Model to
emulate! Rather, it seems more to be the perception of egotistical
hypocrite known to have proclaimed: "BELIEVE IN ME And while you
are believing in me: Do as I say, not what I personally do."

Jed, I ain't no atheist myself, but right now I do think I would
prefer the company of a gathering of atheists. Would you please put in
a good word for me? ;-)

Regards

Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks



Re: [Vo]:Hundreds of billions for alternative energy, nothing for cold fusion

2009-02-25 Thread Jed Rothwell

Jones Beene wrote:

. . .yet it will not allow a single Federal researcher to do a cold 
fusion experiment, not even for a few thousand dollars.


Where does that conclusion come from?


That is what the researchers tell me.

Most of them pay for the equipment themselves and work after hours. 
Some -- who shall remain nameless -- have equipment that is not, 
perhaps, fully authorized for the present purpose (it is 
"bootlegged") but let's not talk about that. Okay?


In any case, we are talking about dollar amounts smaller than 
sparrow's tears, as the Japanese say.


I am not saying that this is happening by accident, or neglect. It is 
deliberate. People such as Robert Park, Rep. Brad Miller and various 
federal officials work vigorously to prevent funding. However, I 
doubt that anyone high up in the administration is aware of what 
these people are up to. And there is no reason to think they know 
that cold fusion exists. They are bombarded with a million messages 
and I think there is little chance that any word  of cold fusion gets 
through. It isn't like you find news of it in the Washington Post or 
Time magazine, two of the many mainstream publications that have 
joined with Robert Park in his crusade to eliminate academic freedom.


- Jed



[Vo]:John Kanzius RIP

2009-02-25 Thread Jones Beene
ERIE, PA: The man who gained
world wide attention with his radio wave machine to split water and fight 
cancer was
remembered as a hero and man of vision. 

John Kanzius was pioneering a possible cure for cancer could help millions more 
after his death from that disease 

Re: [Vo]:Hundreds of billions for alternative energy, nothing for cold fusion

2009-02-25 Thread Jones Beene






From: Jed Rothwell 

> I support the president, but it pains me to see that this administration 
> plans to spend hundreds of billions of dollars on alternative energy yet it 
> will not allow a single Federal researcher to do a cold fusion experiment, 
> not even for a few thousand dollars.


Where does that conclusion come from?

[Vo]:Hundreds of billions for alternative energy, nothing for cold fusion

2009-02-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
[Here is a message I sent to few people I know in the media, in 
response to Obama's speech.]


I support the president, but it pains me to see that this 
administration plans to spend hundreds of billions of dollars on 
alternative energy yet it will not allow a single Federal researcher 
to do a cold fusion experiment, not even for a few thousand dollars.


I think it is unlikely that Obama is aware of this situation, or that 
he or any of his cabinet members realize that cold fusion exists.


It is frustrating beyond words for me to know that the nation plans 
to spend trillions of dollars solving the energy crisis when a far 
better, far cheaper solution may be at hand.


Many experts in cold fusion say that we cannot know whether cold 
fusion will ever become practical and that it is far from being 
practical today. I disagree. While I cannot be sure, I believe it is 
closer to commercial practicality than most experts realize, but that 
it will take much more money than they anticipate: probably hundreds 
of millions of dollars. That estimate was made by Mike Melich and 
other experts at the NRL who have developed similar technology, using 
empirical methods.


See also:

http://lenr-canr.org/News.htm

"Ask Obama to support cold fusion"