Re: [Vo]:WHOA--Not my vids! Mylow, etc.

[Rhong Dhong]

--- On Wed, 5/27/09, Kyle Mcallister  wrote:

> I had tossed around the idea that there might be a string
> drive for this...Tinsel came up with this independantly...> 
> Credit to TinselKoala.

No, the credit goes to Rosphere  and  Toukoqouko. See the post, below, from 
overunity.com


Quote from: Yucca on May 18, 2009, 04:28:06 PM

I'll never forget how Touko showed his prowess most admirably when he produced 
the incredible velocity profile by tracking the yingyang dot. He's the true 
researcher, he's the hero in this

Plus his video actually showing the wires
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw-8YJvicrw

He deserves our thanks for putting the hoax out of business with a couple of 
brilliant videos.

As well, Rosphere, in http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7039.3370

nailed the hoax perfectly, and inspired toukoqouko to look closely and provide 
the proof beyond any doubt:
Quote
I went back and re-watched the backed-up copies of the few videos that Mylow 
made of his device operating on the glass table.  I noticed the following 
'technical examples' of a probable hoax.  I suspect that there may be a 
fishing-line 'pulley string' around the shaft going off-camera to the left and 
that the camera resolution is too low to see it.

End of post from overunity.com


Tinselkoala, after the hoax had been exposed by Rosphere and Toukoqouko, made a 
youtube video with an example of how the fishing line, theorized by Rosphere 
and spotted by Toukoqouko, could have been used, and how difficult it is to see 
it. 

He is now demanding that Sterling Allen pay him money for making the videos - 
some bet that Allen made.



  

[Vo]:Duncan to speak at the MU vice chancellor on CF research

[OrionWorks]

Half day seminar.

http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/2009/may/28/cold-fusion-subject-of-seminar-at-mu/
http://tinyurl.com/kq28o4

Go Duncan!

Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks

[Vo]:Roswell Debris Confirmed

[Terry Blanton]

http://ufocon.blogspot.com/2009/05/roswell-debris-confirmed-as.html

 ROSWELL DEBRIS CONFIRMED AS EXTRATERRESTRIAL: Lab Located, Scientists
Named by Anthony Bragalia

Newly discovered documents reveal that in the months immediately
following the purported 1947 UFO crash at Roswell, secret government
studies began on a material that was previously unknown to science.
The "memory metal" that was studied precisely matches some of the
debris material reported by several witnesses to the crash. Evidence
shows that -under military direction- these unique metal studies were
undertaken by a contracted laboratory that possessed advanced
technical capabilities that the U.S. government itself did not have at
the time. A former high-level scientist employed by the involved
laboratory has offered a confession that he was tasked to study the
crashed UFO material. Information provided by two U.S. Air Force
Generals also offers direct support for this discovery.



When was nitinol invented?

Terry

Re: [Vo]:Roswell Debris Confirmed

[OrionWorks]

Terry sez:

>  ROSWELL DEBRIS CONFIRMED AS EXTRATERRESTRIAL: Lab Located, Scientists
> Named by Anthony Bragalia
>
> Newly discovered documents reveal that in the months immediately
> following the purported 1947 UFO crash at Roswell, secret government
> studies began on a material that was previously unknown to science.
> The "memory metal" that was studied precisely matches some of the
> debris material reported by several witnesses to the crash. Evidence
> shows that -under military direction- these unique metal studies were
> undertaken by a contracted laboratory that possessed advanced
> technical capabilities that the U.S. government itself did not have at
> the time. A former high-level scientist employed by the involved
> laboratory has offered a confession that he was tasked to study the
> crashed UFO material. Information provided by two U.S. Air Force
> Generals also offers direct support for this discovery.
>
> 
>
> When was nitinol invented?
>
> Terry

FWIW,

Two weekends ago I attended an informal potluck held in the Milwaukee
area. I had a chance to listen to Frankie Rowe talk about her
experience of handling the mysterious "memory material." She spoke
over a speaker phone.

See:
http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2007/03/frankie-rowe-and-roswell-crash.html

http://books.google.com/books?id=kG_OCwbeYXsC&pg=PA86&lpg=PA86&dq=frankie+rowe+ufo&source=bl&ots=_YYFVPe71r&sig=cQBQpdnY22Ocz6MF-Fgw3G5mXDU&hl=en&ei=BggfSvDrCOGVlAfkktyDBg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1

http://tinyurl.com/leorvv

Ms Rowe is well known for her account of having had an ever-so brief
chance of handling in the palm of her hand a mysterious material that
she said she could wad up into a minuscule little ball and not feel
anything. This occurred during the time events of the Roswell Crash.
Frankie was around 14 years old when she handled the material. She
recalled that it was pewter colored. When Frankie released the
crumbled material it quickly returned to its original flattened state
(no creases) within 1 - 2 seconds. They couldn't cut it or burn the
material.

Of equal importance were the threats Frankie and her family received
afterward from military police warning her never to divulge to anyone
what she had seen and experienced - talk and they would be picking her
bones out in the desert. The threats affected her emotionally for
decades.

As Roswell crash proponents love to point out: Why make such a fuss
over a weather and/or mogul balloon.

Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Roswell Debris Confirmed

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Loox like a conspiracy to me...

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Re: [Vo]:Roswell Debris Confirmed

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It hadn't registered with me B4 that Mitchell is *from* Roswell NM.

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ROSWELL UFO CRASH IS TRUE CLAIMS FORMER ASTRONAUT:








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[Vo]:Tech Saviors: Can We Bear The Burden?

[Chris Zell]

I have never felt such an overwhelming perception that our world economy is 
fragile, lacking any depth of stamina and operating on the thinnest of a margin 
for error.
 
We have now purchased a brief 'timeout' with wild debts that the next 
generation will never be able to repay.  As it is, we may face an inflation far 
beyond that which followed the Vietnam War.  More than that, our present 
troubles may have been quietly triggered by a demographic shift in Western 
nations that cannot be changed within the lifetime of many who are reading 
these words.  Exactly how do you have a growing GDP with a declining 
population, as in Europe or Japan? How do you intend to pay 20 year Sovereign 
debt when the taxpayers were never born?
 
We desparately need a dramatic technological catalyst to inspire the 21st 
century world economy  - or the future will be dominated by weak, 
miserable governments struggling to redistribute whatever wealth is left. 
Expensive hybrid cars to be purchased by overextended consumers, miscalculated 
energy yields from windmills, solar cells that keep promising parity with 
fossil generation, and waiting for hot fusion like the Second Coming will not 
save us.  We need something much more profound - and not marginal.
 
Will the answers come from status quo science?  Resistant academia?  The same 
people who cured every disease centered as the concern of a public charity over 
the past few decades?  Who resisted cold fusion with religious fervor? 
 
My point, in summary, is this:  The whole world may now depend on fringe 
thinkers such as those on this Vortex site or similar boards on the internet.  
The economy's deep emphasis on financial speculation in recent years (such as 
mortgages and credit cards granted to people who can't afford them) is a 
disturbing sign that profitability can't be generally achieved in businesses 
that already are too 'lean'.  A new energy catalyst is vital.
 
We may be the future Tech Saviors of the world.  Finding that 'free energy' 
Holy Grail may be left as our life's burden - by default - and the clock is 
running out...
 
 


  

Re: [Vo]:Tech Saviors: Can We Bear The Burden?

[OrionWorks]

>From Chris Zell

> I have never felt such an overwhelming perception that our world economy is
> fragile, lacking any depth of stamina and operating on the thinnest of a
> margin for error.
>
> We have now purchased a brief 'timeout' with wild debts that the next
> generation will never be able to repay.  As it is, we may face an inflation
> far beyond that which followed the Vietnam War.  More than that, our present
> troubles may have been quietly triggered by a demographic shift in Western
> nations that cannot be changed within the lifetime of many who are reading
> these words.  Exactly how do you have a growing GDP with a declining
> population, as in Europe or Japan? How do you intend to pay 20 year
> Sovereign debt when the taxpayers were never born?
>
> We desparately need a dramatic technological catalyst to inspire the 21st
> century world economy  - or the future will be dominated by weak,
> miserable governments struggling to redistribute whatever wealth is left.
> Expensive hybrid cars to be purchased by overextended consumers,
> miscalculated energy yields from windmills, solar cells that keep promising
> parity with fossil generation, and waiting for hot fusion like the Second
> Coming will not save us.  We need something much more profound - and not
> marginal.
>
> Will the answers come from status quo science?  Resistant academia?  The
> same people who cured every disease centered as the concern of a public
> charity over the past few decades?  Who resisted cold fusion with religious
> fervor?
>
> My point, in summary, is this:  The whole world may now depend on fringe
> thinkers such as those on this Vortex site or similar boards on the
> internet.  The economy's deep emphasis on financial speculation in recent
> years (such as mortgages and credit cards granted to people who can't afford
> them) is a disturbing sign that profitability can't be generally achieved in
> businesses that already are too 'lean'.  A new energy catalyst is vital.
>
> We may be the future Tech Saviors of the world.  Finding that 'free energy'
> Holy Grail may be left as our life's burden - by default - and the clock is
> running out...

There is much food for thought in Chris Zell's essay. These are indeed
disturbing times. I, too, don't see how our country will not avoid
experiencing massive inflation in the near future. Eventually,
something will have to give. It's my understanding that real estate
and stock market investments tend to weather the ravages of massive
inflation, or at least historically that has been the case. The next
time around, who knows.

I suspect there is indeed much untapped talent languishing within
discussion groups such as here within the Vort Collective and related
Internet groups, ready to be tapped. It is perhaps somewhat
narcissistic to believe that such collective talent will help save the
day, but it sure can't hurt.

Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Roswell Debris Confirmed

[Terry Blanton]

How 'bout Demi?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demi_Moore

Terry

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Re: [Vo]:Tech Saviors: Can We Bear The Burden?

[Terry Blanton]

I'm not sure this does not belong on VortB; but, today the US sold
$100B in T-Bills and had to pay 3.7%.  This will is a preliminary
indication.

Re-Fi now if you can.

Terry

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 9:12 PM, OrionWorks  wrote:
> From Chris Zell
>
>> I have never felt such an overwhelming perception that our world economy is
>> fragile, lacking any depth of stamina and operating on the thinnest of a
>> margin for error.
>>
>> We have now purchased a brief 'timeout' with wild debts that the next
>> generation will never be able to repay.  As it is, we may face an inflation
>> far beyond that which followed the Vietnam War.  More than that, our present
>> troubles may have been quietly triggered by a demographic shift in Western
>> nations that cannot be changed within the lifetime of many who are reading
>> these words.  Exactly how do you have a growing GDP with a declining
>> population, as in Europe or Japan? How do you intend to pay 20 year
>> Sovereign debt when the taxpayers were never born?
>>
>> We desparately need a dramatic technological catalyst to inspire the 21st
>> century world economy  - or the future will be dominated by weak,
>> miserable governments struggling to redistribute whatever wealth is left.
>> Expensive hybrid cars to be purchased by overextended consumers,
>> miscalculated energy yields from windmills, solar cells that keep promising
>> parity with fossil generation, and waiting for hot fusion like the Second
>> Coming will not save us.  We need something much more profound - and not
>> marginal.
>>
>> Will the answers come from status quo science?  Resistant academia?  The
>> same people who cured every disease centered as the concern of a public
>> charity over the past few decades?  Who resisted cold fusion with religious
>> fervor?
>>
>> My point, in summary, is this:  The whole world may now depend on fringe
>> thinkers such as those on this Vortex site or similar boards on the
>> internet.  The economy's deep emphasis on financial speculation in recent
>> years (such as mortgages and credit cards granted to people who can't afford
>> them) is a disturbing sign that profitability can't be generally achieved in
>> businesses that already are too 'lean'.  A new energy catalyst is vital.
>>
>> We may be the future Tech Saviors of the world.  Finding that 'free energy'
>> Holy Grail may be left as our life's burden - by default - and the clock is
>> running out...
>
> There is much food for thought in Chris Zell's essay. These are indeed
> disturbing times. I, too, don't see how our country will not avoid
> experiencing massive inflation in the near future. Eventually,
> something will have to give. It's my understanding that real estate
> and stock market investments tend to weather the ravages of massive
> inflation, or at least historically that has been the case. The next
> time around, who knows.
>
> I suspect there is indeed much untapped talent languishing within
> discussion groups such as here within the Vort Collective and related
> Internet groups, ready to be tapped. It is perhaps somewhat
> narcissistic to believe that such collective talent will help save the
> day, but it sure can't hurt.
>
> Regards
> Steven Vincent Johnson
> www.OrionWorks.com
> www.zazzle.com/orionworks
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Roswell Debris Confirmed

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As the smoke cleared, Terry Blanton 
mounted the barricade and roared out:

> How 'bout Demi?
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demi_Moore

She may have been born there, but she never grew up there. So -- what would she 
know.
The question here would be: how long did her _[step]parents_ live there? And if 
they're
from there: who are their relations who lived/live there..? 

Perhaps it's a moore -- moot point now how many facts the collective citizenry 
of
Roswell NM would know/have known -- in spite of government intimidation. Or 
moore.
More!
;P


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Re: [Vo]:Tech Saviors: Can We Bear The Burden?

[mixent]

In reply to  Chris Zell's message of Thu, 28 May 2009 17:39:21 -0700 (PDT):
Hi,
[snip]
>We desparately need a dramatic technological catalyst to inspire the 21st 
>century world economy  - or the future will be dominated by weak, 
>miserable governments struggling to redistribute whatever wealth is left. 
>Expensive hybrid cars to be purchased by overextended consumers, miscalculated 
>energy yields from windmills, solar cells that keep promising parity with 
>fossil generation, and waiting for hot fusion like the Second Coming will not 
>save us.  We need something much more profound - and not marginal.
[snip]
Precisely what my device would deliver. Unlimited, compact, clean, and cheap
energy. (If it works).

By clean, I mean as clean as CF, since they are likely both based upon the same
basic reactions.

The difference is that CF is struggling to reach break even because it's
parameters are largely unknown, and based upon random chance, whereas my device
is engineered to do the job, and the parameters can be readily controlled.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/Project.html