Re: [Vo]:Parallels between Ball Lightning and LENR
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 10:49 PM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: Another related video is at - U.F.O.Shoots Down U.S.Nuclear Missile.Retired Military Man Bob Jacobs, Explains The Event http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8wFmtr05Ko The UFO was observed to have a raised bubble (i.e., a round cockpit window). ;) What I don't understand is why the alien would want to shoot down a missile from an interceptor missile test. Eric
Re: [Vo]:[OT]Shocking Story That Could Derail Attack on Syria
At last the sad truth start to reach mainstream media. It is a civil war, a reciprocal bath of blood and hate, sectarian, desperate, where each side know he will be exterminated like cockroach if he lose. the only solution of foreign invasion by regional forces and separation of the communities until they stop hating each others... looks like Yugoslavia in worst. 2013/9/5 Charles Francis fran...@datacomm.ch If Obama gets his way, I’m afraid there’ll be many more stories like this one: ** ** http://tinyurl.com/max5tmw ** ** ** ** Charles ** ** *From:* Eric Walker [mailto:eric.wal...@gmail.com] *Sent:* 05 September 2013 06:38 *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:[OT]Shocking Story That Could Derail Attack on Syria** ** ** ** The piece by Polk was interesting.
Re: [Vo]:the link to Alain's essay
Very interesting article. Thanks.
Re: [Vo]:Parallels between Ball Lightning and LENR
From nearly 1000 miles away, it's hard to believe that level of detail could be observed. Aliens make for a more interesting story, but my bet is that a volume of plasma developed around the missile to offset charge stripped from the missile skin. Maybe bored aliens become mischievous? Eric Walker wrote: On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 10:49 PM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: Another related video is at - U.F.O.Shoots Down U.S.Nuclear Missile.Retired Military Man Bob Jacobs, Explains The Event http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8wFmtr05Ko The UFO was observed to have a raised bubble (i.e., a round cockpit window). ;) What I don't understand is why the alien would want to shoot down a missile from an interceptor missile test. Eric
Re: [Vo]:the link to Alain's essay
In the long march of human affairs, gradualism and evolution have been consistently shown to be the best strategy for orderly and prudent change. The systems that have developed over the centuries cannot be overturned in a shocking overnight revolution of disruption. That disruptive strategy will lead to far more harm to the preservation of the common good and the domestic tranquilly than chaotic replacement of existing critical infrastructure. The oil fields, refineries, and gas stations must remain open for years and decades to fill the gas tanks of our current fleet of road transport. The electric grid must remain supported for years through the bills faithfully paid to the electric utilities by faithful rate payers. The gas and oil pipelines should be gradually and slowly phased out as demand for the products that they carry slowly decrease. LENR must be presented to corporate leaders worldwide as an innovation and technological advancement capable of providing increased margins rather than a threat to their current interests. Disorganized and chaotic revolution serves the interests, welfare and prospects of no one, so great care and leadership must be taken to evolve society and our energy infrastructure in a well-designed, thoughtful, and decade’s long transitional process. On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2013/09/nassim-nicholas-taleb-and-cold-fusion_5.html -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Re: [Vo]:the link to Alain's essay
I'm not sure that moderation is the best way, but even if so, I think it is impossible to control the spread of LENR. LENR, once proven, even without retro-engineering, will be too easy to copy. If Defkalion and rossi protect their IP, team lik Defkalion in Africa, China, Asia, Brasil, will create clone... some mafia will create clone and some informal citizen networks will develop copies... it will be uncontrollable. If a neigbour propose me a Defkalion CHP clone for 5-10k$ I may discuss, but a small business in Africa will not discuss, to save the awful price of energy. then the incumbent will have to increase prices because they are losing clients, and finally they will push competitors... they will die in less than 10 years, whatever the government or the corps decide. At short term it may be reassuring to pretend it will be slow, you are right. but it will be a lie. LENR is not like nuclear energy, or even oil digging... it is small-sized, not hightech... it can be sold to individual at acceptable price... If you forbid it it will be like US alcohol prohibition... 2013/9/6 Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com In the long march of human affairs, gradualism and evolution have been consistently shown to be the best strategy for orderly and prudent change. The systems that have developed over the centuries cannot be overturned in a shocking overnight revolution of disruption. That disruptive strategy will lead to far more harm to the preservation of the common good and the domestic tranquilly than chaotic replacement of existing critical infrastructure. The oil fields, refineries, and gas stations must remain open for years and decades to fill the gas tanks of our current fleet of road transport. The electric grid must remain supported for years through the bills faithfully paid to the electric utilities by faithful rate payers. The gas and oil pipelines should be gradually and slowly phased out as demand for the products that they carry slowly decrease. LENR must be presented to corporate leaders worldwide as an innovation and technological advancement capable of providing increased margins rather than a threat to their current interests. Disorganized and chaotic revolution serves the interests, welfare and prospects of no one, so great care and leadership must be taken to evolve society and our energy infrastructure in a well-designed, thoughtful, and decade’s long transitional process. On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2013/09/nassim-nicholas-taleb-and-cold-fusion_5.html -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Re: [Vo]:the link to Alain's essay
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: The systems that have developed over the centuries cannot be overturned in a shocking overnight revolution of disruption. Oh yes they can. Automobiles wiped out the horse-and-buggy trade in 22 years, between 1908 and 1930. In 1908 the buggy business was still growing by leaps and bounds. By 1930 it was moribund. Airplanes wiped out the North Atlantic ocean liner business between 1945 and 1955. Microcomputers took away nearly all mainframe and minicomputer business between 1985 and 1990. By 1990, IBM had gone from being the most powerful and profitable computer company to the brink of bankruptcy. It lost more money than any American corporation in history. The big chain bookstores crushed small bookstores in the 1990s. Ten years later, Amazon put them out of business. Meanwhile, Google is making more money than all newspapers *combined*. It has usurped the advertising business. That is why Bezos bought the Washington Post for $250 million. It was worth billions a decade ago. The Boston Globe sold for $70 million, down from $1.1 billion in 1993. Newsweek magazine sold for $1 (one dollar -- no kidding). In commerce, there are no rules. That disruptive strategy will lead to far more harm to the preservation of the common good and the domestic tranquilly than chaotic replacement of existing critical infrastructure. This has never been a problem. No one cares what happened to the ocean liner docks in New York City after 1955. They rotted away. No one noticed. Infrastructure often goes from being critical to being abandoned in a few years. The oil fields, refineries, and gas stations must remain open for years and decades to fill the gas tanks of our current fleet of road transport. Probably not. Automobiles only last about 9 years on average. Gas stations are always on the edge of bankruptcy. When they lose 10% of their revenue, they will go bankrupt in droves. People with gasoline cars will have no place to refuel them. They will be forced to trade in and buy cold fusion powered cars sooner than they planned. This kind of transition speeds up in the last stages. You would have seen how that works if you had tried to get a minicomputer repaired in 1990. See: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RothwellJthefuturem.pdf - Jed
RE: [Vo]:[OT]Shocking Story That Could Derail Attack on Syria
Vladimir Putin today seemed to attribute the horrendous recent events in Eastern Ghouta to the Syrian rebels and, with that in mind, the following Youtube video from last year, apparently showing Syrian Jihadists testing self-produced chemical weapons on rabbits, is relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-6O-gApVrU Some of the ingredients appear routine, others I can't readily identify, and most originate from Tekkim, a Turkish company. Perhaps a competent chemist on this group can make an assessment as to what sort of substance might have been used here? Regards Charles From: alain.coetm...@gmail.com [mailto:alain.coetm...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Alain Sepeda Sent: 06 September 2013 09:55 To: Vortex List Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT]Shocking Story That Could Derail Attack on Syria At last the sad truth start to reach mainstream media. It is a civil war, a reciprocal bath of blood and hate, sectarian, desperate, where each side know he will be exterminated like cockroach if he lose. the only solution of foreign invasion by regional forces and separation of the communities until they stop hating each others... looks like Yugoslavia in worst.
Re: [Vo]:Index of J. Condensed Matter Nucl. Sci.
Here is the index inside a page: http://lenr-canr.org/wordpress/?page_id=1495 I must say, it is a cinch updating MySQL structures. You do not even need to recompile the old programs after you add a new field. I added Volume to one data file. The old programs continue to Select correctly from the reconfigured file: SELECT Recnum, Author, CoAuthors, YearPublished, Title, Description . . . - Jed
[Vo]:We abandon vast amounts of infrastructure, buildings, and so on
I have often read the argument that we cannot afford to abandon our oil production facilities, or we cannot afford to replace all automobiles. This is wrong because we do abandon and replace all oil refinery equipment over time, probably 20 or 30 years. We replace nearly every car on the road in about 9 to 12 years (depending on the economy). We also abandon hundreds of billions of dollars in infrastructure, buildings, houses and so on before it wears out and has to replaced. Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: The systems that have developed over the centuries cannot be overturned in a shocking overnight revolution of disruption. Here are some photos of Detroit, MI.: http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2011/jan/02/photography-detroit They show billions of dollars worth of buildings and infrastructure that have been abruptly abandoned. Libraries with thousands of books, schools, hospitals . . . all rotting away. It has all gone to waste. In any rural district in Japan you will find depopulated areas with abandoned roads, collapsed houses, abandoned factories and schools. Billions and billions of dollars worth of stuff. No one claims that we cannot afford to abandon Detroit. On the contrary, we cannot afford to maintain it, because fewer people want to live there. When cold fusion replaces a third of gasoline powered cars, the others will soon be abandoned the same way Detroit has been. Yes, it will be a waste of still-useful equipment, but that is what always happens when technology changes. Not only can we afford it, it is actually cheaper than trying to maintain obsolete equipment. If it was not cheaper to abandon obsolete but still serviceable machines, we wouldn't abandon them. We would still be cranking up 1980s IBM mainframes and DEC minicomputers. I am pretty sure most of them would still work if they existed intact. (Most have been recycled.) - Jed
