[Vo]:Mats Lewan book : An Impossible Invention

[Alan Fletcher]

Andrea Rossi 

April 2nd, 2014 at 6:15 AM 
TO THE READERS OF THE JoNP:
Today has been presented the book of the scientific journalist Mats Lewan
” An Impossible Invention”: it is professional, honest and sincere as his
Author. For those interested, the contact is
animpossibleinvention.com  
Andrea Rossi

Paperback about $27, ebook $19  Chapter 1 online 

(lenr.qumbu.com -- analyzing the Rossi/Focardi eCat  -- and the
defkalion hyperion -- Hi, google!)

[Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application

[Jed Rothwell]

David French wrote this article, and sent me the link:

http://coldfusionnow.org/us-examiner-addresses-andrea-rossi-us-patent-application/

- Jed

[Vo]:Holy Grail identified

[Jones Beene]

It's is a day post "April fools", but... oops... it was posted yesterday -
yet that will not stop true believers...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/01/holy-grail-spanish-museum_n_5072155
.html

coincidentally and speaking of "true believers" - you  can get Lewan's new
book on Rossi for Kindle

http://animpossibleinvention.com/



<>

Re: [Vo]:Holy Grail identified

[Terry Blanton]

On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Jones Beene  wrote:
> It's is a day post "April fools", but... oops... it was posted yesterday -
> yet that will not stop true believers...
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/01/holy-grail-spanish-museum_n_5072155
> .html

We discussed that cup in the PoS group years ago.  As the knight told
that other Jones, "He chose poorly."

RE: [Vo]:Holy Grail identified

[Jones Beene]

-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton 

> We discussed that cup in the PoS group years ago.  As the knight told
that other Jones, "He chose poorly."

Of course the "Grail" story can get plenty of News coverage on one
particular day (Apr 1) every year, but the ironic thing to me was Lewan's
book coming out at about the same time. Was that intentional?

If real, the E-Cat would be the "true Grail" no doubt about it - and that
coincidence has not been lost on anyone... especially in Indiana's new role
to save Rome from Mecca. 

Heck, next Apr 1, we will probably learn that Rossi has secretly been the
Grand Master of Prieuré de Sion all along. He does resemble the old
mysticator - Plantard in a way ... maybe AR is from the same gene pool ...
which had been the meaning of the grail anyway, according to the old code
... 

Re: [Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application

[Daniel Rocha]

Basically, Rossi's soap opera will surely be over in 6 months, at most.


2014-04-02 11:19 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell :

> David French wrote this article, and sent me the link:
>
>
> http://coldfusionnow.org/us-examiner-addresses-andrea-rossi-us-patent-application/
>
> - Jed
>
>


-- 
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application

[Axil Axil]

Why do you say that?


On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Daniel Rocha  wrote:

> Basically, Rossi's soap opera will surely be over in 6 months, at most.
>
>
> 2014-04-02 11:19 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell :
>
> David French wrote this article, and sent me the link:
>>
>>
>> http://coldfusionnow.org/us-examiner-addresses-andrea-rossi-us-patent-application/
>>
>> - Jed
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Daniel Rocha - RJ
> danieldi...@gmail.com
>

Re: [Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application

[Susanna Gipp]

Whatcha talkin bout Daniel!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw9oX-kZ_9k



2014-04-02 20:05 GMT+02:00 Axil Axil :

> Why do you say that?
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote:
>
>> Basically, Rossi's soap opera will surely be over in 6 months, at most.
>>
>>
>> 2014-04-02 11:19 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell :
>>
>> David French wrote this article, and sent me the link:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://coldfusionnow.org/us-examiner-addresses-andrea-rossi-us-patent-application/
>>>
>>> - Jed
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Daniel Rocha - RJ
>> danieldi...@gmail.com
>>
>
>

Re: [Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application

[Bob Cook]

I thought that the original application was vague on purpose.  It gave Rossi 
more time to develop the reactor while the PO was considering it.  It took 
about 4 years in this regard.  Now he has  a reasonable amount of time to 
improve the application as suggested by PO.   Further it was my understanding 
that he has a patent in the EU. patent organization.  I do not believe that 
Industrial Heat was NOT aware of the status of the application and is ready to 
jump on the corrections.  I do not see Rossi's actions as a soap opera--they 
have been well designed and may sense to me.  

The catalyst elements will be of interest.  The information that Levi and 
others produced early on surely must be relevant to his cause.  However I do 
not know whether this was reference in the original  application or not.  
French should know.  

Rossi has recently indicated that the third party test of his reactor now in 
progress has produced lots of continuous data and will surely validate the 
operability of the invention.  

I am surprised that there is not an application for the Hot Cat design.  
However, it may fall within the scope of the original application and will be 
addressed more fully in Rossi's/Industrial Heat's response to the current PO 
notice.


Bob
  - Original Message - 
  From: Daniel Rocha 
  To: John Milstone 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 9:58 AM
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application


  Basically, Rossi's soap opera will surely be over in 6 months, at most.



  2014-04-02 11:19 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell :

David French wrote this article, and sent me the link:




http://coldfusionnow.org/us-examiner-addresses-andrea-rossi-us-patent-application/



- Jed







  -- 
  Daniel Rocha - RJ
  danieldi...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application

[Daniel Rocha]

The text says:

"As is usual with a first initiative by a US Patent Office Examiner,
this Office
Action rejects the application. Rossi now has three months from March 26,
2014, extendable upon fee payments up to six months, to file a Response."

Whatever Rossi could do to have a patent, he should do in these period.
Another patent will just make this redundant.


2014-04-02 15:05 GMT-03:00 Axil Axil :

> Why do you say that?
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote:
>
>> Basically, Rossi's soap opera will surely be over in 6 months, at most.
>>
>>
>> 2014-04-02 11:19 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell :
>>
>> David French wrote this article, and sent me the link:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://coldfusionnow.org/us-examiner-addresses-andrea-rossi-us-patent-application/
>>>
>>> - Jed
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Daniel Rocha - RJ
>> danieldi...@gmail.com
>>
>
>


-- 
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com

[Vo]:The Altaeros Buoyant Airborne Turbine (BAT)

[Jed Rothwell]

A wind turbine in a giant balloon. The BAT is a batty idea, but ya' gotta
love it. See:

http://www.altaerosenergies.com/

Re: [Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application

[Daniel Rocha]

He could achieve the same by doing nothing since this patent, as it is,
doesn't protect anything. Rossi will be, at least, a victim of himself.


2014-04-02 15:46 GMT-03:00 Bob Cook :

>  I thought that the original application was vague on purpose.  It gave
> Rossi more time to develop the reactor while the PO was considering it.  It
> took about 4 years in this regard.  Now he has  a reasonable amount of time
> to improve the application as suggested by PO.
>

-- 
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com

RE: [Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application

[Jones Beene]

From: Susanna Gipp 

 

Whatcha talkin bout Daniel!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw9oX-kZ_9k

 

The Rossi opera - soapy or riveting, will not end until the technology is
shown to be a complete bust, since it does not exist out there alone. There
is a conforming history - even if the present evidence of strong energy gain
is not sufficient to please skeptics. 24 years of positive results, going
back to Thermacore, serve to negate the likelihood of fraud. 

 

Having a valid patent is never necessary for success. It can help, sure -
but trade secrets can probably help as much in Rossi's case. Of course, if
there is no useful technology at all, then Rossi will be finished - but it
will take years to finally determine that; and all indications are that
there is substantial gain, even if less than claimed.

 

Patents can be irrelevant. Bayer still sells more aspirin than anyone else,
at a higher price than anyone else, despite their patent running out nearly
100 years ago . not to mention having all of their factories confiscated
during the War.

 

Another prime example is the recent Courtroom war of Apple vs. Samsung over
smart phones. Samsung was able to use its dominance in manufacturing despite
having relatively insignificant IP (fluff) to essentially pry its way into
first place in smart phones. They started out as a contract manufacturer for
Apple - there is a lesson there.

 

Apple was able to get a few billion for infringement recently - but that is
chump change compared to the $1.2 trillion market for mobile communications.
Samsung will appeal that verdict for 4-5 years or more and then pay it off
easily, out of a few months of operating profits. No big deal. They won
essentially without the basic patents.

 

The market for E-Cats will be a trillion dollar market as well in a decade -
if the Rossi technology is valid. He will not be able to protect it any
better than Apple has done - at least not in the courts, so having trade
secrets is not a bad strategy so long as you do not give up being the
low-cost manufacturer.

 

By 2020, China will become the dominant players in LENR - if the technology
works. "Necessity" is not just the mother of invention - it is the whole
family tree. Rossi would do well to capitalize on Industrial Heat's China
connections. That reality is not lost on them.

Re: [Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application

[Lennart Thornros]

I like Jones' analysis. It covers most of it.
I further think that if Rossi does not have a working LENR at least he
believes he has one as there is no way he has completely fooled all
investors involved just sweet talking.
I understand he has made less smart business in the field of garbage  and
energy. Well, such things happens. It does not mean he is a bad
entrepreneur.
We had a discussion, about how pity it is, that the US government does not
make funds available for LENR, a few weeks ago.  Maybe Rossi' scientific
background and his success record is questionable , maybe Mills' theories
are questionable as well as his long string of optimistic predictions, but
they both are raising money and seems to work with a clear direction.
Although I understand that critic is required now and then I find it hard
to not respect their entrepreneurship. It is hard to get a project funded.
Do not think for a moment that private money is easier to obtain than
government grants. It is different but not easier.
I think it is time to search for the cheapest way to get result and start a
business with better funding.:) Five years from now the fight about market
share will commence.

Best Regards ,
Lennart Thornros

www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com
lenn...@thornros.com
+1 916 436 1899
6140 Horseshoe Bar Road Suite G, Loomis CA 95650

"Productivity is never an accident. It is always the result of a commitment
to excellence, intelligent planning, and focused effort." PJM


On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Jones Beene  wrote:

>   *From:* Susanna Gipp
>
>
>
> Whatcha talkin bout Daniel!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw9oX-kZ_9k
>
>
>
> The Rossi opera - soapy or riveting, will not end until the technology is
> shown to be a complete bust, since it does not exist out there alone. There
> is a conforming history - even if the present evidence of strong energy
> gain is not sufficient to please skeptics. 24 years of positive results,
> going back to Thermacore, serve to negate the likelihood of fraud.
>
>
>
> Having a valid patent is never necessary for success. It can help, sure -
> but trade secrets can probably help as much in Rossi's case. Of course, if
> there is no useful technology at all, then Rossi will be finished - but it
> will take years to finally determine that; and all indications are that
> there is substantial gain, even if less than claimed.
>
>
>
> Patents can be irrelevant. Bayer still sells more aspirin than anyone
> else, at a higher price than anyone else, despite their patent running out
> nearly 100 years ago ... not to mention having all of their factories
> confiscated during the War.
>
>
>
> Another prime example is the recent Courtroom war of Apple vs. Samsung
> over smart phones. Samsung was able to use its dominance in manufacturing
> despite having relatively insignificant IP (fluff) to essentially pry its
> way into first place in smart phones. They started out as a contract
> manufacturer for Apple - there is a lesson there.
>
>
>
> Apple was able to get a few billion for infringement recently - but that
> is chump change compared to the $1.2 trillion market for mobile
> communications. Samsung will appeal that verdict for 4-5 years or more and
> then pay it off easily, out of a few months of operating profits. No big
> deal. They won essentially without the basic patents.
>
>
>
> The market for E-Cats will be a trillion dollar market as well in a decade
> - if the Rossi technology is valid. He will not be able to protect it any
> better than Apple has done - at least not in the courts, so having trade
> secrets is not a bad strategy so long as you do not give up being the
> low-cost manufacturer.
>
>
>
> By 2020, China will become the dominant players in LENR - if the
> technology works. "Necessity" is not just the mother of invention - it is
> the whole family tree. Rossi would do well to capitalize on Industrial
> Heat's China connections. That reality is not lost on them.
>

Re: [Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application

[Daniel Rocha]

But they did have patents! But Rossi doesn't have anything. His ecat secret
will be cracked within days or just a few weeks, given the importance of
the invention, the greatest since the domestication of wheat and rice So,
he doesn't have anything. He's naked, he won't profit without a patent.

2014-04-02 17:07 GMT-03:00 Jones Beene :

>
>  It can help, sure - but trade secrets can probably help as much in
> Rossi's case. Of course, if there is no useful technology at all, then
> Rossi will be finished - but it will take years to finally determine that;
> and all indications are that there is substantial gain, even if less than
> claimed.
>
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application

[Bob Cook]

Jones--

Well said.  You have more breath than I. 

I have always concluded he would depend upon trade secrets to give him an edge 
on the rush to come.  I agree that Industrial Heat sees that advantage and 
their involvement with China promises fewer headaches from big oil and other 
governmental influences in the United States that are bent on keeping him out 
of business here.  China needs the Rossi technology badly.  

Bob
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jones Beene 
  To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 1:07 PM
  Subject: RE: [Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application


  From: Susanna Gipp 

   

  Whatcha talkin bout Daniel!

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw9oX-kZ_9k

   

  The Rossi opera - soapy or riveting, will not end until the technology is 
shown to be a complete bust, since it does not exist out there alone. There is 
a conforming history - even if the present evidence of strong energy gain is 
not sufficient to please skeptics. 24 years of positive results, going back to 
Thermacore, serve to negate the likelihood of fraud. 

   

  Having a valid patent is never necessary for success. It can help, sure - but 
trade secrets can probably help as much in Rossi's case. Of course, if there is 
no useful technology at all, then Rossi will be finished - but it will take 
years to finally determine that; and all indications are that there is 
substantial gain, even if less than claimed.

   

  Patents can be irrelevant. Bayer still sells more aspirin than anyone else, 
at a higher price than anyone else, despite their patent running out nearly 100 
years ago . not to mention having all of their factories confiscated during the 
War.

   

  Another prime example is the recent Courtroom war of Apple vs. Samsung over 
smart phones. Samsung was able to use its dominance in manufacturing despite 
having relatively insignificant IP (fluff) to essentially pry its way into 
first place in smart phones. They started out as a contract manufacturer for 
Apple - there is a lesson there.

   

  Apple was able to get a few billion for infringement recently - but that is 
chump change compared to the $1.2 trillion market for mobile communications. 
Samsung will appeal that verdict for 4-5 years or more and then pay it off 
easily, out of a few months of operating profits. No big deal. They won 
essentially without the basic patents.

   

  The market for E-Cats will be a trillion dollar market as well in a decade - 
if the Rossi technology is valid. He will not be able to protect it any better 
than Apple has done - at least not in the courts, so having trade secrets is 
not a bad strategy so long as you do not give up being the low-cost 
manufacturer.

   

  By 2020, China will become the dominant players in LENR - if the technology 
works. "Necessity" is not just the mother of invention - it is the whole family 
tree. Rossi would do well to capitalize on Industrial Heat's China connections. 
That reality is not lost on them.

Re: [Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application

[Terry Blanton]

WD40 never filed a patent so that no one would know their secret ingredients.

Re: [Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application

[Jed Rothwell]

Terry Blanton  wrote:

WD40 never filed a patent so that no one would know their secret
> ingredients.
>

So, it is a trade secret. That works for a product with a limited market.
If WD40 were worth hundreds of billions, other companies would do a
chemical analysis of it, and then reverse engineer it. Cold fusion has
gigantic market potential, so it will be reverse engineered no matter how
difficult that may be. A trade secret would not work for it.

- Jed

Re: [Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application

[Lennart Thornros]

Hello Jed,
I think it works with a trade secret.
One just need to be ahead of the pack to win.
As a matter of fact a patent might be a disadvantage as you need to give
away some trade secrets.
Many times it is possible to find ways around the patent and perhaps have
an advantage by not having a patent, which requires defense. How many
lawyers does it takes to stop China from making a chinese copy and go to
court defending the reason the patent is not violated with the Chinese
twist. I think the bigger the product the harder to get a solid patent.
There are all sorts of reasons to not honor the patent. Political,
financial, etc. WD-40 not so much.
As I mentioned before BIG funding, and good sales team combined with smart
engineers might be the best bet as soon as one gets Rossi' specs.:)
Wright airplanes are not so popular.

Best Regards ,
Lennart Thornros

www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com
lenn...@thornros.com
+1 916 436 1899
6140 Horseshoe Bar Road Suite G, Loomis CA 95650

"Productivity is never an accident. It is always the result of a commitment
to excellence, intelligent planning, and focused effort." PJM


On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 5:37 PM, Jed Rothwell  wrote:

> Terry Blanton  wrote:
>
> WD40 never filed a patent so that no one would know their secret
>> ingredients.
>>
>
> So, it is a trade secret. That works for a product with a limited market.
> If WD40 were worth hundreds of billions, other companies would do a
> chemical analysis of it, and then reverse engineer it. Cold fusion has
> gigantic market potential, so it will be reverse engineered no matter how
> difficult that may be. A trade secret would not work for it.
>
> - Jed
>

Re: [Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application

[Bob Cook]

It seems that Rossi changed his mind about how to commercialize his reactor 
about 2-3 years ago.  First it was to come out for home heating and sold by a 
Home Depot like company.  That soon changed to licensed use in an industrial 
setting with trained operators.  It seems that is where the application remains 
with some? legal contractual protection against reverse engineering.  However, 
I question whether such an agreement will hold water in China.  It seems pretty 
easy to steel a reactor given their size.   If it works as he says it will be 
much more valuable than a kg of U-235---also more dangerous in some folks 
minds. 

Bob
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jed Rothwell 
  To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 5:37 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application


  Terry Blanton  wrote:


WD40 never filed a patent so that no one would know their secret 
ingredients.



  So, it is a trade secret. That works for a product with a limited market. If 
WD40 were worth hundreds of billions, other companies would do a chemical 
analysis of it, and then reverse engineer it. Cold fusion has gigantic market 
potential, so it will be reverse engineered no matter how difficult that may 
be. A trade secret would not work for it.

  - Jed

Re: [Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application

[Terry Blanton]

Nothing stops China.  They took microscopic slices of the Intel 8080
microprocessor and reconstructed the masks required to back engineer
the chip.  Cheap knock offs were shipping within a year of the
introduction of the chip.

Re: [Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application

[Daniel Rocha]

Wasn't it SU?


2014-04-02 22:49 GMT-03:00 Terry Blanton :

> Nothing stops China.  They took microscopic slices of the Intel 8080
> microprocessor and reconstructed the masks required to back engineer
> the chip.  Cheap knock offs were shipping within a year of the
> introduction of the chip.
>
>


-- 
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application

[Eric Walker]

On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Daniel Rocha  wrote:

But they did have patents! But Rossi doesn't have anything. His ecat secret
> will be cracked within days or just a few weeks, given the importance of
> the invention, the greatest since the domestication of wheat and rice So,
> he doesn't have anything. He's naked, he won't profit without a patent.
>

This makes sense to me.  I suspect Rossi has given up on cashing in big at
this point and is now happy to have made a significant amount (presumably)
on the recent sale to Industrial Heat and, in the future, through a share
of whatever they take in.  It is now in Industrial Heat's hands to try to
obtain a profit from the situation, assuming this is their goal.  I suppose
the way they can do that at this point is by getting a line of quality
products to market.  There will obviously be tough competition once enough
people get over the initial disbelief.

Eric

Re: [Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application

[Blaze Spinnaker]

The fundamental misstep of Rossi was this:

""The specification shall contain a written description of the invention,
and of the manner and process of making and using it, in such full, clear,
concise, and exact terms as to enable any person skilled in the art to
which it pertains, or with which it is most nearly connected, to make and
use the same, and shall set forth the best mode contemplated by the
inventor of carrying out his invention.""

The reality is that patent offices come down on you like a tonne of bricks
if you try to obfuscate this part.  And so they should.


On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 7:19 AM, Jed Rothwell  wrote:

> David French wrote this article, and sent me the link:
>
>
> http://coldfusionnow.org/us-examiner-addresses-andrea-rossi-us-patent-application/
>
> - Jed
>
>

Re: [Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application

[Eric Walker]

On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Jones Beene  wrote:


> The Rossi opera – soapy or riveting, will not end until the technology is
> shown to be a complete bust, since it does not exist out there alone.


Both riveting and weighed down with some longueurs.  When the news comes
in, more entertaining than a novel.  Perhaps a show that could only be
possible since the Internet came along.

Eric

Re: [Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application

[Blaze Spinnaker]

If the e-Cat pans out - not just a soap opera, but a fundamental
re-evaluation of the how we should investigate and
perceive physical reality itself.


On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Eric Walker  wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Jones Beene  wrote:
>
>
>> The Rossi opera - soapy or riveting, will not end until the technology is
>> shown to be a complete bust, since it does not exist out there alone.
>
>
> Both riveting and weighed down with some longueurs.  When the news comes
> in, more entertaining than a novel.  Perhaps a show that could only be
> possible since the Internet came along.
>
> Eric
>
>

Re: [Vo]:US Examiner Addresses Andrea Rossi US Patent Application

[Daniel Rocha]

I was not thinking deeply. Just evaluating Rossi's behavior.


2014-04-03 0:15 GMT-03:00 Blaze Spinnaker :

> If the e-Cat pans out - not just a soap opera, but a fundamental
> re-evaluation of the how we should investigate and
> perceive physical reality itself.
>
>
> --
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:Mats Lewan book : An Impossible Invention

[Blaze Spinnaker]

>From chapter 1:

" The earth as the center of the Universe was a concept fundamental to the
beliefs of the Roman Catholic Church. If one could not trust the Church in
that, how much more could one not question? What might people start to
believe, or disbelieve? "


On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 6:48 AM, Alan Fletcher  wrote:

>  Andrea Rossi
>  April 2nd, 2014 at 6:15 
> AM
>
> TO THE READERS OF THE JoNP:
> Today has been presented the book of the scientific journalist Mats Lewan
> " An Impossible Invention": it is professional, honest and sincere as his
> Author. For those interested, the contact is
>
> animpossibleinvention.com
>
> Andrea Rossi
>
>
> Paperback about $27, ebook $19  Chapter 1 online
>
>  (lenr.qumbu.com -- analyzing the Rossi/Focardi eCat  -- and the
> defkalion hyperion -- Hi, google!)
>