[Vo]:Re: The appearance of muons are explained by SPP theory.

2015-08-09 Thread Mark Jurich
RE: [Vo]:Re: The appearance of muons are explained by SPP theory.Yes, it does 
Jones.  I think what is happening, is that a substantial number of muons are 
starting to decay (about 5-6 GeV, 2.2 us half life, but relativistic, and Earth 
frame of reference), unloading/depositing the bulk of their energy in the 
covered levels of the Parking Garage, or after 3 blocks/plates of lead 
thickness or so.  It’s not good to be under the first several tiers (less than 
about a meter or two of concrete) of a Parking Garage as far as cosmic muons, 
go.  If you’re on top of the garage, the number of muons decaying in you 
(depositing damaging radiation), will be less than the impeded muons by 
moderate amounts of concrete ... Of course if the amount of concrete is 
substantial, then the brunt of muons will have decayed away.  If you check out 
the thesis/reference I placed at the bottom, you will see in the simulations 
based mainly on the Bethe-Bloch Equation (for radiation stopping power of heavy 
particles like muons) etc., that radiation dose increases with small amounts of 
concrete above the human body.

Another interesting factoid from the thesis: Outside, your stomach (torso) area 
takes the most radiation dosage from vertically-delivered cosmic muons... ugh...

... As far as densities go, the whole Earth atmosphere is about equal to 10 
meters of water (Human Body?), 2 m of Rock (Concrete?) or 0.9 m of Lead. Recall 
that the speed of light in vacuum is about 1 foot per nanosecond.  That’s about 
all ya need (besides the stuff mentioned above) to crunch it all out, roughly...

http://scholarworks.gsu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1013context=phy_astr_diss

- Mark Jurich
From: Jones Beene 
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 3:21 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Re: The appearance of muons are explained by SPP theory.

From: Mark Jurich 

 

One of the references below, demonstrates what happens when you let some Purdue 
Students loose in/on a Concrete Parking Garage.  

 

Mark, this reference agrees to some extent with the earlier one (with lead 
plates to absorb muons, or not). 

 

Quote: “It was expected that the count rate would be highest on the rooftop 
when there was no obstruction between the sky and the detector; however, it was 
measured to be significantly lower...”  

 

Go figure…

 


RE: [Vo]:Re: The appearance of muons are explained by SPP theory.

2015-08-09 Thread Jones Beene
Mark,

 

There are several ways to explain the stratification phenomenon of 
“lower-initial-flux followed by increasing-flux, followed by decreasing-flux.” 
This is a complex phenomenon which cannot be easily modeled with one curve.

 

In statistical terms, it looks like this could be the crossing of two or three 
parameter curves. One curve is the absorption curve, describing depletion of 
muons via elastic collisions and thermalization. Another is the decay curve 
which is based on the 2 microsecond half-life alone. These two are intertwined, 
and can be averaged into a single “dissipation” curve. Nothing new so far.

 

Then … there is the more interesting curve, which is sloping the opposite way 
(increasing) and appears to be anti-entropic - which is the multiplication 
curve. Within a spatial zone, there is an increasing flux of muons. The close 
analogy in nuclear physics is the well-known (n,2n) reaction which – curiously 
is also seen in lead. 

 

When neutrons enter lead or heavier elements, some of them are scattered or 
merely absorbed but others interact as if in spallation, with the result being 
a multiplication ratio - where the initial neutron typically knocks out an 
additional neutron, doubling the population. But the secondary neutrons are 
generally too slow to continue the multiplication, and a true chain reaction 
cannot be sustained.

 

The analogy is limited since neutrons are neutral and muons are charged, but 
otherwise seems to explain an increase in muons. The difference of concrete vs. 
lead is that the later has a greater propensity to multiply muons.

 

From: Mark Jurich 

 

Yes, it does Jones.  I think what is happening, is that a substantial number of 
muons are starting to decay (about 5-6 GeV, 2.2 us half life, but relativistic, 
and Earth frame of reference), unloading/depositing the bulk of their energy in 
the covered levels of the Parking Garage, or after 3 blocks/plates of lead 
thickness or so.  It’s not good to be under the first several tiers (less than 
about a meter or two of concrete) of a Parking Garage as far as cosmic muons, 
go.  If you’re on top of the garage, the number of muons decaying in you 
(depositing damaging radiation), will be less than the impeded muons by 
moderate amounts of concrete ... Of course if the amount of concrete is 
substantial, then the brunt of muons will have decayed away.  If you check out 
the thesis/reference I placed at the bottom, you will see in the simulations 
based mainly on the Bethe-Bloch Equation (for radiation stopping power of heavy 
particles like muons) etc., that radiation dose increases with small amounts of 
concrete above the human body.

 

Another interesting factoid from the thesis: Outside, your stomach (torso) area 
takes the most radiation dosage from vertically-delivered cosmic muons... ugh...

 

... As far as densities go, the whole Earth atmosphere is about equal to 10 
meters of water (Human Body?), 2 m of Rock (Concrete?) or 0.9 m of Lead. Recall 
that the speed of light in vacuum is about 1 foot per nanosecond.  That’s about 
all ya need (besides the stuff mentioned above) to crunch it all out, roughly...

 

http://scholarworks.gsu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1013 
http://scholarworks.gsu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1013context=phy_astr_diss
 context=phy_astr_diss

 

- Mark Jurich

From: Jones Beene mailto:jone...@pacbell.net  

Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 3:21 PM

To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 

Subject: RE: [Vo]:Re: The appearance of muons are explained by SPP theory.

 

From: Mark Jurich 

 

One of the references below, demonstrates what happens when you let some Purdue 
Students loose in/on a Concrete Parking Garage.  

 

Mark, this reference agrees to some extent with the earlier one (with lead 
plates to absorb muons, or not). 

 

Quote: “It was expected that the count rate would be highest on the rooftop 
when there was no obstruction between the sky and the detector; however, it was 
measured to be significantly lower...”  

 

Go figure…

 



[Vo]:LENR EXTENT CRISIS, DEFINING ROSSIBILITY

2015-08-09 Thread Peter Gluck
  Too much seriousness in the weekend is not healthy.
I wrote- do not ignore the info and the OTHER, please.

It is here:
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/08/lenr-extent-crisis-defining-rossibility.html

For a good new week!

Peter

-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com


Re: [Vo]:Rossi's 1 MW Thermal LENR plant trial. What's the current consensus?

2015-08-09 Thread Terry Blanton
@Orion's Belt

Jones cynical?  Nahhh.  Well, maybe a little.

At least he has some feelings left and is not jaded to the core like me.

It's not easy being green


RE: [Vo]:Rossi's 1 MW Thermal LENR plant trial. What's the current consensus?

2015-08-09 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
From Terry,

Speaking of cynicism:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiKBISeIySo

 It's not easy being green

... I thought you weren't green. ;-)

Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
OrionWorks.com
zazzle.com/orionworks



[Vo]:Rossi beware!

2015-08-09 Thread Axil Axil
The recent experiments by Holmlid indicate the production of a zoo of
sub-atomic particles including muons associated with the LENR reaction.
When muons decay, they produce electrons. Could the Hot cat be producing
this unusual type of radiation? Is the name “M.me http://m.me/Curie” be
related to the discovery of radiation? Will the Hot cat produce so much
muon radiation that it may be harmful to Rossi in that shipping container?
Does Rossi know that his Hot cat is producing muons? Will Rossi meet the
same fate as “M.me http://m.me/ Curie” under the possible extreme
exposure to radiation? When breaking new ground in science danger to life
and limb sometimes occurs.

All those muons coming from the Mouse might be driving the Cat into
unexpectedly high SSM efficiency. Any reactor that can produce all those
electron, so many as to enable direct electrical production, that reactor
must be producing huge amounts of muons. Rossi realty doesn't know what is
happening inside the Hot cat...it new...but there is no free lunch in this
world. For all those who care for Rossi's welfare. convince him to leave
that shipping container.