Re: [Vo]:Article: Diamonds turn nuclear waste into nuclear batteries

[mixent]

In reply to  Bob Higgins's message of Tue, 29 Nov 2016 10:41:32 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
>I know how industrial diamond and DLC are made and the rates that are
>reasonable.  I don't know where the 4mW/g electrical came from for 14C
>(perhaps that is the energy output of the 14C), 

Yes, that's one reason I said "maximum". It would also slowly decrease over the
lifetime of the C14, but that's not really a problem for any practical
application.

>but I believe you would be
>doing well to achieve about 40 microwatts per gram.  

I think that would depend on the exact construction, and since I have no idea
how this is supposed to work, I shouldn't really comment, but an efficiency of
only 1% intuitively seems a bit conservative. ;)
E.g. I could envision using doped diamond to reduce the resistance, and many
very thin junctions in series, to make use of remaining energy of fast electrons
as they pass through multiple junctions. (Assuming they even use junctions.)

>Keep in mind that a
>gram of diamond is 5 carats of diamond.  It is not practical to produce
>diamond from 14C from high temperature - high pressure methods because of
>the leaked non-diamond 14C and because the result would not be
>encapsulated.  If this were being produced in gas phase (RF plasma), you
>would contaminate the whole vacuum system with C14, and you would have to
>capture everything when you pumped the chamber down (could not be vented to
>atmosphere).  Vacuum pump would be contaminated, the vacuum oil would be
>contaminated.

I agree, lot's of potential problems.
>
>Zinc-air hearing aid batteries produce more than 1mW and the newer digital
>hearing aids need more than 10mW peaks.  Zinc-air hearing aid batteries are
>cheap, so this is a non-application.  Pacemaker is an appropriate
>application, but the problem is not enough power from the 14C beta
>battery.  Spacecraft clock core is a good application, but would not be
>worth the development for such a small market.

I have often wondered why pacemakers can't have a built in transformer secondary
and rectifier so that all one has to do a be adjacent to the primary for a while
in order to recharge the internal battery ("air" core transformer). Perhaps they
could even be powered by the stray AC fields in your average dwelling?
[snip]
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html

[Vo]:LENR and MAKING DECISIONS

[Peter Gluck]

http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/11/nov-30-2016-lenr-about-making-decisions.html

peter
-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

Re: [Vo]:Bill Gates connection to LENR?

[Jones Beene]

If I was offered a choice between owning 100% of Rossi's ecat IP and a cafe 
latte at Starbucks, the coffee wins, hands down.
 

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Brian—  With all due respect, there IS Rossi IP.  It was identified in the 
Rossi/IH contract in an Appendix—very specific.  I read it all.  It was 
generally referred to as E-Cat IP and specified in several different documents, 
including the E-Cat US patent as I recall.    It did not include much technical 
information about Pd and D reactions and reactors, which may cause it to be 
worthless SOUR GRAPES in some people’s estimation.     If it were worthless as 
you indicate, it certainly has spurred a lot of Ni-H LENR technology and LENR+ 
development (as Peter Gluck so consistently identifies) to produce investment 
in R around the World.  I admit that I am frequently confused, but not about 
Rossi’s alleged fraudulent life.  My main confusion is trying to understand the 
motives of people who attempt to discredit  Rossi’s work.  I am concluding 
after following the treatment of P in 1989 and thereafter that some of the 
same motives that drove the discrediting of P are pertinent to deciding how 
Rossi should be handled.  In a political realm I consider such motives would be 
labeled conservative and in opposition to progressive peoples’ motives.    Bob 
Cook  From: Brian Ahern
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 4:25 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Bill Gates connection to LENR?  There is no IP!!!  Every time 
you forget or deny Rossi's fraudulent  life, you get confused. Rossi has 
absolutely nothing.    
 I suspect that a settlement of the Federal Case in Florida will happen about 
February 2017 with Rossi maintaining control of the IP and much money changing 
hands.   There is potential for a huge fish fry, however. Bob Cook  
    

 
   

RE: [Vo]:Bill Gates connection to LENR?

[bobcook39923]

Brian—

With all due respect, there IS Rossi IP.  It was identified in the Rossi/IH 
contract in an Appendix—very specific.  I read it all.  It was generally 
referred to as E-Cat IP and specified in several different documents, including 
the E-Cat US patent as I recall.  

It did not include much technical information about Pd and D reactions and 
reactors, which may cause it to be worthless SOUR GRAPES in some people’s 
estimation.   

If it were worthless as you indicate, it certainly has spurred a lot of Ni-H 
LENR technology and LENR+ development (as Peter Gluck so consistently 
identifies) to produce investment in R around the World.

I admit that I am frequently confused, but not about Rossi’s alleged fraudulent 
life.  My main confusion is trying to understand the motives of people who 
attempt to discredit  Rossi’s work.

I am concluding after following the treatment of P in 1989 and thereafter 
that some of the same motives that drove the discrediting of P are pertinent 
to deciding how Rossi should be handled.  In a political realm I consider such 
motives would be labeled conservative and in opposition to progressive peoples’ 
motives.  

Bob Cook

From: Brian Ahern
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 4:25 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Bill Gates connection to LENR?

There is no IP!!!

Every time you forget or deny Rossi's fraudulent  life, you get confused. Rossi 
has absolutely nothing.



 
I suspect that a settlement of the Federal Case in Florida will happen about 
February 2017 with Rossi maintaining control of the IP and much money changing 
hands.   There is potential for a huge fish fry, however.
 
Bob Cook
 
 

Re: [Vo]:Inside tiny tubes, water turns solid when it should be boiling

[H Ucar]

This would be interesting from calorific point of view. If it is possible
to boost or disturb the phase change process fast enough this can be work
as a heat pump.

Re: [Vo]:Bill Gates connection to LENR?

[Brian Ahern]

There is no IP!!!


Every time you forget or deny Rossi's fraudulent  life, you get confused. Rossi 
has absolutely nothing.





I suspect that a settlement of the Federal Case in Florida will happen about 
February 2017 with Rossi maintaining control of the IP and much money changing 
hands.   There is potential for a huge fish fry, however.

Bob Cook

Re: [Vo]:Bill Gates connection to LENR?

[Alain Sepeda]

To control, or to develop?

LENR cannot be controlled or it will die.
Modern entrepreneur know that.

Not more simple than controlling teenagers during springbreak.

2016-11-29 17:57 GMT+01:00 :

> With the recent information from Italy (Giuseppe, Navarro and Coppi)
> reported on Rossi’s blog;  the information from LENR Forum about Gates
> interaction with La Gatta (apparently in Padua, It during the ICCF-19);
> Texas Tech interaction with La Gatta’s firm in Italy;  La Gatta’s
> interaction with IH in N.C.,  and Gates support of LENR at Texas Tech, is
> Gates involved in IH via. La Gatta’s firm or Texas Tech or both?
>
>
>
> The plot thickens.  And the Court Case may reveal much more about the IH
> supporters and  action to control the Ni-H LENR technology.
>
>
>
> I suspect that a settlement of the Federal Case in Florida will happen
> about February 2017 with Rossi maintaining control of the IP and much money
> changing hands.   There is potential for a huge fish fry, however.
>
>
>
> Bob Cook
>
>
>
>
>