Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

[H LV]

Never mind. If the cell is storing energy then the temperature has to fall
since there is less energy that can be dissipated as heat.
Also the input power would have to increase to prevent the temperature from
falling but it was constant so this another reason to reject the storage
hypothesis.

Harry


On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 5:01 PM, H LV  wrote:

> I'm confused.  The third paragraph on page 2 says the cell is intended to
> operate with constant input power. Wouldn't that tend prevent the
> temperature from spontaneously falling (due to energy storage) and only
> permit a spontaneous rise in temperature?
>
> Harry
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 10:23 PM, H LV  wrote:
>
>> Ok, the numbers in this paper rule out the possibility of energy storage
>> during the experiment.
>> .
>> However, as I recall there is a story floating around that a certain
>> batch of Pd from the supplier seemed to work best.
>> If that is true then the energy storage might have happened prior to the
>> experiment when the Pd was processed
>> by the supplier.
>>
>>
>> Harry
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 8:43 PM, Jed Rothwell 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Please review the numbers in the paper, which is here:
>>>
>>> http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RouletteTresultsofi.pdf
>>>
>>> For experiment 4, the excess heat lasted 70 days. The total experiment
>>> duration was 123 days. If there was a storage phase, it lasted 53 days.
>>> This would show up as an endothermic reaction, which would reduce power
>>> output by much more than the exothermic reaction that followed, because it
>>> would be shorter. Any calorimeter that can measure a positive exothermic
>>> reaction of X watts can measure an endothermic reaction of -X watts equally
>>> well.
>>>
>>> Energy storage is ruled out.
>>>
>>> - Jed
>>>
>>>
>>
>

[Vo]:Any ideas?

[mixent]

Hi,

See
https://www.google.com.au/maps/place/Lagrange+WA+6725/@-18.5670478,121.9963419,3a,75y,12.23h,128.95t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOXf7rpnK_pZI6aiuUg8dWQ!2e0!7i3328!8i1664!4m5!3m4!1s0x2c79c76b69f7224b:0x400f6382479c870!8m2!3d-18.7113202!4d121.9747422

Hint look up in the air.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html

Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

[H LV]

I'm confused.  The third paragraph on page 2 says the cell is intended to
operate with constant input power. Wouldn't that tend prevent the
temperature from spontaneously falling (due to energy storage) and only
permit a spontaneous rise in temperature?

Harry



On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 10:23 PM, H LV  wrote:

> Ok, the numbers in this paper rule out the possibility of energy storage
> during the experiment.
> .
> However, as I recall there is a story floating around that a certain batch
> of Pd from the supplier seemed to work best.
> If that is true then the energy storage might have happened prior to the
> experiment when the Pd was processed
> by the supplier.
>
>
> Harry
>
> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 8:43 PM, Jed Rothwell 
> wrote:
>
>> Please review the numbers in the paper, which is here:
>>
>> http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RouletteTresultsofi.pdf
>>
>> For experiment 4, the excess heat lasted 70 days. The total experiment
>> duration was 123 days. If there was a storage phase, it lasted 53 days.
>> This would show up as an endothermic reaction, which would reduce power
>> output by much more than the exothermic reaction that followed, because it
>> would be shorter. Any calorimeter that can measure a positive exothermic
>> reaction of X watts can measure an endothermic reaction of -X watts equally
>> well.
>>
>> Energy storage is ruled out.
>>
>> - Jed
>>
>>
>

[Vo]:coal generator goes chapter 11 bankrupt

[Frank Znidarsic]

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-nrg-energy-genon-bankruptcy-idUSKBN1952G7

Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

[CB Sites]

Pretty interesting Axil.   Still reading.   I did find a more up-to-date
paper on the magnetic susceptibility of PdH & PdD but this time with a
larger range of loading C > 0.8 H per Pd.   Yes, funny you should mention
Superconductivity...   I'll let the title of the article speak for itself.


"Magnetic and Transport Properties of PdH: Intriguing Superconductive
Observations" Paolo Tripodi1 , Daniele Di Gioacchino, and Jenny Darja Vinko
Brazilian Journal of Physics, vol. 34, no. 3B, September, 2004.
http://www.scielo.br/pdf/bjp/v34n3b/a07v343b.pdf

Could the diamegetic signal from the from the 1974 magnetic susceptibility
measurements be an indication of the onset of superconductivity.   Would
superconductivity indicate the formation of a H/D BEC held by the lattice.
Inquiring minds want to know.


On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 9:16 PM, Axil Axil  wrote:

> More details...
>
> *The* *Dzyaloshinskii–Moriya Interaction produces magnetic knots under
> the influence of an unbalanced magnetic field.*
>
> I need to read this paper to see how this all works.
>
>
> *http://web.science.uu.nl/itf/Teaching/2014/2014vanDijk.pdf
> *
>
>
>
> *Skyrmions and the Dzyaloshinskii-Moriya  InteractionComputing the
> Dzyaloshinskii-Moriya interaction for small and large spin-orbit couplings*
> This mechanism will produce pseudo particles through spin orbit couplings.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 9:02 PM, Axil Axil  wrote:
>
>> More details...
>>
>> The function of the electromagnetic shock is to change the state of the
>> magnetic system so that the spin of that system is converted to anisotropic.
>>
>> The magnetism inherent to a system like the Golden balls by Cravins is
>> already anisotropic. There might be other magnetic systems that are
>> inherently anisotropic.
>>
>> Anisotropic magnetism is required to instantiate instantons inside the
>> proton.
>>
>>
>> https://www.nature.com/articles/srep16184
>>
>>
>> *Topological, non-topological and instanton droplets driven by
>> spin-transfer torque in materials with perpendicular magnetic anisotropy
>> and Dzyaloshinskii–Moriya Interaction*
>>
>>
>> This article explains how a unbalanced magnetic field can produce an
>> instanton.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 8:50 PM, Axil Axil  wrote:
>>
>>> I would value an example or two that will support this assertion.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 8:07 PM, Jed Rothwell 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Axil Axil  wrote:


> To the best of my understanding, the LENR reaction is a two step
> process. First, the heat of the system must be turned into an amplified
> spin system. Then this spin system us TRIGGED by the application of a
> strong EMP pulse that could be either light as in a laser pulse or an
> electrostatic pulse as in a spark, This trigger uses the KERR effect to
> change the state of the system.
>

 There is a problem with this theory. Cold fusion often starts without
 the triggers you describe.

 - Jed


>>>
>>
>

Re: [Vo]:Income inequlity

[Lennart Thornros]

I agree with all three previous statements. We have to make sure we put a
global view on it. People in third world countries will not tolerate the
big differences.
Problem will stay because nobody wants to spearhead a real solution, it
doesn't propel reelection. Fight over details and allow special interest
having impact provides positioning oneself for reelection. Making the
systems full of red tape under the cover of security makes it hard to
change anything. We need to begin to trust again. Eight character long
password with one capital, one digit and one of this special characters,
all to be renewed every six months, does no good. Just the opposite.
Basic income for all is a solution for part of the problem. Unqualified
inheritance should be looked upon. I am not for confiscation, but to just
inherit and be unqualified is a reason we have great resistance to a change
that will come. Pay with your head as it has been more cosmetic than to any
use. Great quote Axil.

On Jun 14, 2017 17:05, "Axil Axil"  wrote:

> History teachers and the wise learn the French, Communist and American
> revolutions, the rise of Nazisim, and Trumism all show what happens when
> the tensions between the haves and the have-nots reaches a breaking point.
>
> Jobs, jobs, jobs...
>
> "Qu'ils mangent de la brioche"...If the haves want to keep their heads,
> they should be more sensitive to the feeling and needs of the have-nots.
>
> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 3:31 PM, Adrian Ashfield 
> wrote:
>
>> Frank,
>> I have been writing about this for several years.  Read this, starting
>> about a third way down.
>> https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/06/paul-craig-roberts/power
>> ful-man-earth/
>>
>> I think it was inevitable anyway as a result of AI and robotics, but
>> offshoring made it happen earlier.
>> I hope the LENR, if it works out, will cushion the blow, but sooner or
>> later we will need something like UBI  (Universal Basic Income.)  I don't
>> see that happening with our present government until after there is blood
>> on the streets.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Frank Znidarsic 
>> To: vortex-l 
>> Sent: Wed, Jun 14, 2017 2:19 pm
>> Subject: [Vo]:Income inequlity
>>
>> i have been watching the stock market.  It's on a tear on the way up.
>> 28% returns for the first half of this year.  Wealthy investor are even
>> doing been with private equity.
>>
>> In the mean time all social programs are under the ax.
>>
>> We are in the mist of one of the largest transfers of wealth from the
>> poor to the rich in history.  How will this end?
>>
>> Frank Z
>>
>
>

Re: [Vo]:"Type A nickel" ?

[Axil Axil]

https://phys.org/news/2016-05-scanning-skyrmions-scientists-image-skyrmion.html

Scanning for skyrmions: Scientists directly image skyrmion cluster state
transitions in iron-germanium nanodisks

The key to LENR is twisting magnetic field lines to form magnetic knots.
This magnetic field line twisting produces magnetic particles called
instantons that cause particles to decay. A material called a cubic
helimagnet can do this trick.

On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 1:34 AM, Alain Sepeda 
wrote:

> his framework to propose NiMn is absolutely not nucler, but about the
> phase transition graph.
> The idea behind is that if you use PdAg or NiMn you can load hydrogen
> (D/H) with less damage in the crystaline lattice at lower temperature.
>
> when Ag and Mn reduce a threshold temperature, above whiche phase
> transition is smoother and there is less damage in the latice.
>
> It may be coherent with Ed Storms theory, and his hypothesis that big
> cracks are bad, and compete with smaller cracks that are however required,
> and maybe produced by alpha-beta transition, but the smoother version...
>
> all is about metallurgy.
>
> 2017-06-14 15:17 GMT+02:00 Jones Beene :
>
>> Thanks. There is interesting information there.
>>
>> Armanet suggests that an equivalent of PdAg for LENR could be NiMn (as
>> opposed to NiAg). Apparently this relates to a similarity in geometric
>> spacing in the crystal.
>>
>> This equivalency may assume that the only purpose of the silver is to
>> mechanically stabilize the matrix, which may not be the ultimate benefit of
>> the alloy - if silver also is reactive for the nuclear tunneling of
>> hydrogen.
>>
>> In terms of the active mechanism for gain, the emphasis on phase change
>> by Armanet could open up an alternative mechanism. That would be coupling
>> of nuclear spin/isospin to phase change.
>>
>>
>>
>>  Alain Sepeda wrote:
>>
>>> Nicolas Armanet talking of alpha-beta transition in Pd discussed Ni
>>> during RNBE2016.
>>>
>>
>>
>