Re: [Vo]:[OT] Vipervirus Truth?

2020-02-10 Thread Jonathan Berry
One crematorium manager told a Hong Kong reporter that, in normal
times, his 24 ovens were lit five days a week for four hours at a
time. Now, he said, they have so many corpses to deal with that all
the ovens are going around the clock.

(not sure if this is the same man as above or an independent source)
Wengui says there are 49 crematoriums in Wuhan, and they’ve been
working 24/7 for 17 days. Last week, a crematorium worker identified
as “Mr. Yun” told a Chinese newspaper he and co-workers have been
working 24 hours a day:

Almost all staff at each funeral home in Wuhan are fully equipped, and
all Wuhan cremation chambers are working 24 hours.

Mr. Yun says at his location alone, 100 body bags are required a day.
The Epoch Times does have a strong anti-communist party bias, but it
has not failed any fact checks in the past. And its reporting in the
case of Mr. Yun was picked up by the Daily Mail.

So, we have one or 2 sources at crematoriums, then we have a
Billionaire saying the same and rising levels of smog in the areas
effected.

We have leaks of figures from Tencent which indicates similar
numbers(well, 25000 some time before, now numbers closer to 50,000
adds up pretty well).

Along with the lockdown and arrests...  Welding building shut...

If the Virus isn't higher than 2-3% fatality, then I think they are
probably using it as an excuse to kill off some of their population
under the guise of a virus.

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 12:12 PM Jonathan Berry  wrote:
>
> Further support for the potential that it's worse than we know...
>
> https://www.ccn.com/coronavirus-death-smog-is-china-burning-thousands-of-infected-bodies/
> Data has suggested a massive amount of sulfur dioxide is being
> released into the air. Sulfur concentration is especially high around
> Wuhan and Chongquing, the cities most affected by the Wuhan
> coronavirus.
>
> https://www.ccn.com/billionaire-whistleblower-wuhan-coronavirus-death-toll-is-over-5/
> Billionaire Whistleblower: Wuhan Coronavirus Death Toll Is Over 50,000
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 11:50 AM Jed Rothwell  wrote:
> >
> >  wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Also the numbers are too low because of people that are infected and die 
> >> away from medical care and thus don't get
> >> included in the statistics.
> >
> >
> > The number of people who die is too low for this reason. But, the number of 
> > people who get sick and get no medical care is far higher than the number 
> > of people who die without medical care. In other words, the number of 
> > people who recover unaccounted for (without medical care) is far higher 
> > than the number of deaths. In most cases, people with severe cases seek 
> > medical care, and they are counted when they die. For this reason, the 
> > mortality rate skews higher than it really is.
> >
> > There were also some patients who died in the hospital from Wuhan flu but 
> > the death was ascribed to some other cause. I think this happened more 
> > often in the early weeks. It is happening less often now. I think I read 
> > that in news reports.
> >



Re: [Vo]:[OT] Vipervirus Truth?

2020-02-10 Thread Jonathan Berry
Further support for the potential that it's worse than we know...

https://www.ccn.com/coronavirus-death-smog-is-china-burning-thousands-of-infected-bodies/
Data has suggested a massive amount of sulfur dioxide is being
released into the air. Sulfur concentration is especially high around
Wuhan and Chongquing, the cities most affected by the Wuhan
coronavirus.

https://www.ccn.com/billionaire-whistleblower-wuhan-coronavirus-death-toll-is-over-5/
Billionaire Whistleblower: Wuhan Coronavirus Death Toll Is Over 50,000


On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 11:50 AM Jed Rothwell  wrote:
>
>  wrote:
>
>>
>> Also the numbers are too low because of people that are infected and die 
>> away from medical care and thus don't get
>> included in the statistics.
>
>
> The number of people who die is too low for this reason. But, the number of 
> people who get sick and get no medical care is far higher than the number of 
> people who die without medical care. In other words, the number of people who 
> recover unaccounted for (without medical care) is far higher than the number 
> of deaths. In most cases, people with severe cases seek medical care, and 
> they are counted when they die. For this reason, the mortality rate skews 
> higher than it really is.
>
> There were also some patients who died in the hospital from Wuhan flu but the 
> death was ascribed to some other cause. I think this happened more often in 
> the early weeks. It is happening less often now. I think I read that in news 
> reports.
>



Re: [Vo]:Give It Up for Randell

2020-02-10 Thread Jones Beene
 Good point, Frank
Not only is Nansteel affiliated with BLP for many years, he is coauthor of this 
paper and several others (yup - 0ver 17 years ago).

https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/1024263
... which describes a device which should have been immediately 
commercializable as there is a ready market.

... but instead of even trying to develop a market futher or find a similar one 
- they dropped the R into UV light sources, with no explanation - and moved 
on to other projects with no end-game in sight. The present paper is a real 
"yawner," compared to earlier one, even brain-dead compared to several in the 
past with Nansteel's name as co-author. 

And wasn't Ray one of the many PhDs who left BLP years ago? 

Think about this. Who - in their right mind - as an insider with founders stock 
- leaves a company which can make the claims BLP made back in 2000? 

At least those scientists who left have avoided the past 20 years of 
disappointment and lost opportunity. It is hard to describe Mills in any kinder 
way than as another Andrea Rossi but with better academic credentials.


Frank Znidarsic wrote:  
 
 How independent can this test be when he works for Black Light Power.
https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/author/37333130700