Re: [Vo]:More on the WuFlu conspiracy theory

2020-03-09 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
Folks, please, there is no need to post anonymous random anecdotal
reports.  It does nothing but spread unnecessary panic and is tantamount to
shouting fire in a crowded theater.

Everyone is aware of the risks of lack of surge capacity.   Here is
something a bit more informed and not so anecdotal -
https://www.corriere.it/cronache/20_marzo_07/coronavirus-stiamo-creando-terapie-intensive-anche-corridoi-cb01190a-60be-11ea-8d61-438e0a276fc4.shtml?refresh_ce-cp=IwAR0oMTQ9_vK91Ex272uyF7ueNz6c93Aw2jPwKrJuXRkxrgZRB9B3eKDc9Ow


Re: [Vo]:More on the WuFlu conspiracy theory

2020-03-09 Thread H LV
As of today (March 9th 2020) there are 69 confirmed cases in Canada and one
confirmed death from covid-19. There is only one confirmed case of
transmission inside the country, so the rest are from people who have
returned from travelling abroad.

Harry

On Mon., Mar. 9, 2020, 12:16 p.m. Frank Znidarsic, 
wrote:

> I live in Johnstown PA a small sleepy isolated by mountains.  The first
> case of Corona virus with reported here yesterday.  There is no toilet
> paper at Walmart, why that rush I dont know.
>
> It appears to be everywhere within weeks.
>
>
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Re: [Vo]:More on the WuFlu conspiracy theory

2020-03-09 Thread Frank Znidarsic
I live in Johnstown PA a small sleepy isolated by mountains.  The first case of 
Corona virus with reported here yesterday.  There is no toilet paper at 
Walmart, why that rush I dont know.
It appears to be everywhere within weeks.










Re: [Vo]:More on the WuFlu conspiracy theory

2020-03-09 Thread Jonathan Berry
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Coronavirus update from Shanghai, China:


I’m splitting at the seams.

When news first started coming out about the Coronavirus in China, it
wasn’t just numbers. The virus was reported to us as the horror stories
were happening. Not a warning, not a “precautionary” article on “what to do
if things go bad”. In less than 48 hours my life went from completely
normal to being afraid to open my front door. I’d like to pause here and
actually have you imagine what it’d be like to be that afraid.

Please note that this was not a “scare tactic”, it was the reality of the
Coronavirus playing out right in front of our eyes. We had no time to
doubt, to consider the politics, and we didn’t have information at the time
for what safety measures to take. We just knew that there was a new disease
with no cure and more and more people were dying every single day.

What should’ve been the most festive time of the year became a nightmare no
one could wake from. No one could believe things were getting so severe,
and escalating so quickly.

And I wasn’t even in WuHan.

Stories of entire families being wiped out, stories of people actually
starving to death due to home quarantine, stories of people committing
suicide because hospitals had no room for them and they’d rather die than
infect their loved ones, these stories aren’t being told by the media. We
don’t hear the stories of people lining up for 8+ hours outside hospitals
only to become too weak to stand in line any longer and went home to die,
to infect their loved ones and their families who ALSO died without medical
care, and couldn’t even end up being part of a statistic. Fear-driven
animal abuse. Suicide photos. People chasing after ambulances with no
chance to say goodbye to their deceased loved ones as they went to be
incinerated. Xenophobic judgments and racist responses. All on top of the
basic hell that an epidemic brings. THIS IS OUR EVERYDAY.

SO. When I see articles about how the “Coronavirus is nothing to worry
about”, how it “isn’t as dangerous as the flu”, how “America only has one
death so clearly the virus isn’t deadly”, DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I HURT. I
hurt for the people that have no family left. I hurt for all of the medical
professionals who are putting aside their entire lives to save as many
people as they can. I hurt for the people that never got a chance to get
diagnosed. I hurt for those who have died in vain.

Because I filter my updates so they cause the least amount of Chinese
racism possible while stating the reality of how terrifying things have
been here. Because I have the choice to come back to the states “as an
American” at the cost of abandoning my loved ones and my people behind.
Because the Chinese people are just as much my people as are Americans, yet
I’ve always been told to choose which I’m more loyal to. China is under
reporting statistics in order to curb panic, and that is an ethical issue
in itself, but it should also show us that things are worse than the media
is making it out to be, otherwise they wouldn’t feel the need to do that in
the first place. BOTH countries are guilty of misinformation and
shortcomings in the face of this epidemic, but a cyclical game of who’s
worse won’t get us anywhere.

I read the tragedies of the virus in China by day, and with the time
difference, catch the American news by night. The contrast is appalling.
This virus isn’t going to bring forth the apocalypse, or the end of the
world, but that doesn’t mean that it isn’t something that also deserves our
attention. It has spread over the globe in a matter of two months, and we
shouldn’t underestimate its destructive power.

As for the many comparing it to the flu, no one is saying the flu isn’t
dangerous too. But the dangers associated with the flu do not negate the
dangers of the Coronavirus, either. We have protocols and treatment plans
in place for the flu, we have consistent information about the flu over
years of testing and statistics.