Re: [Vo]:Acoustic demonstration of beats
Peter Hagelstein hypothesized that SPPs could form on the surface and that they may be complicit in the conversion of the 2 laser signals into the beat frequency. The SPPs could potentially provide the nonlinearity required for a beat to form. In past experiments, the amount of gold needed for the effect to occur has not been carefully quantified nor has its surface morphology. Etched Pd cathodes are not like a sheet of glass or polished silicon, so the thin gold deposit is bound to be very complicated. The possible use of gold nanoparticles has been discussed, but has not been tried that I know of. Any metal that is put in an electrolysis cell is going to deposit to some extent on the cathode by ordinary electroplating. Electroplating professionals go to a lot of trouble to put a filter bag around the anode to prevent small "fines" from plating from the anode to the cathode. Regarding adding particles, why not begin with adding the size you want? Note that even for the red laser SPP resonance, the particles needed may be quite big compared to the nanoscale. I doubt that the "Woods anomalies" are an electromagnetic effect in the way usually thought. Even interferometry is completely misunderstood. I recommend reading the spot-on paper, "Interference and wave-particle duality of single photons", by Shan-Liang Liu, arXiv [2017]. In it you will find that what we were taught in university physics about interference was complete malarkey. Is there a way to get excess heat from plasmons alone? I cannot weigh in on that. On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 9:27 AM Jones Beene wrote: > Bob Higgins wrote: > > > Yes, the beats in the Hagelstein, Letts, and Cravens experiment are > presumably formed by this process. A thin gold film was deposited on the > cathode surface and the effect was not observed without the thin gold film. > > Has it been ruled out that the energy anomaly is not partly or solely due > to plasmon formation alone ? > > > It is believed that the thin gold went down as tiny islands that were > responsible for the nonlinearity needed to form the beats. > > If the "islands" were in the size range of 2-12 nm, then the Casimir > effect could come into play. The so-called "Wood's Anomalies" have been > known for a century in various forms - and this plasmon anomaly of > Hagelstein et al could be related to that. > > > https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Chapter-2-Theory-of-Wood-%E2%80%99-s-Anomalies-Maystre/406d2c8f212c3286d85774815de62a2c75b748b8 > > IOW there is a possibility of actual energy gain from plasmon radiation > alone which may or may not also have a nuclear effect as a secondary > reaction when deuterium is present. > > >
Re: [Vo]:Acoustic demonstration of beats
Don, Very interesting. Was the work published? Sounds like a long lost missed opportunity for something... > Here's FYI of something similar, Jones, et al. When I was young and dumber I knew of a Dr. Cameron Jones who no longer works at Swinburne Uni. where he diluted colloidal gold to the proper density to get the correct spacing that entertained a plasmon resonance when painted on a surface. He painted CD ROMs with this gold-dot 'plasmonic surface' and the CD diode read laser plasmon information as visual image alterations. The Doctor suggested the skew indicated the plasmon resonance had a knowledge of the architecture of the image encoded in the CD dot-track. But there were echos of other dot-tracks evident in the images I saw posted. The technique does make and detect plasmon resonance. In the 90-s. Then he retired from academics to run the Blue Velvet night club. -don On 10/21/2020 12:44 PM, JonesBeene wrote: The possibility of an energy anomaly based on gold plasmons from nanoparticles being irradiated by lasers –using beat frequency or not - leads to an idea for a simple low cost experiment. Gold nanoparticle colloids are available at remarkably low prices due to growing use as cure-all dietary supplements. Obviously you don’t get much gold for $20 bucks on Amazon but your don’t need much. A drop of Pure Nano Colloidal Gold in water - 2oz Bottle 240ppm .999 Gold nanoparticles (on Amazon) would be interesting when irradiated by one or more small lasers. Add a little heavy water to the colloid and who knows what will turn up? This could happen on a microscope slide for instance – if you want a close up view. Bob Higgins wrote: > Yes, the beats in the Hagelstein, Letts, and Cravens experiment are > presumably formed by this process. A thin gold film was deposited on the > cathode surface and the effect was not observed without the thin gold film. Has it been ruled out that the energy anomaly is not partly or solely due to plasmon formation alone ? > It is believed that the thin gold went down as tiny islands that were > responsible for the nonlinearity needed to form the beats. If the "islands" were in the size range of 2-12 nm, then the Casimir effect could come into play. The so-called "Wood's Anomalies" have been known for a century in various forms - and this plasmon anomaly of Hagelstein et al could be related to that. https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Chapter-2-Theory-of-Wood-%E2%80%99-s-Anomalies-Maystre/406d2c8f212c3286d85774815de62a2c75b748b8 IOW there is a possibility of actual energy gain from plasmon radiation alone which may or may not also have a nuclear effect as a secondary reaction when deuterium is present.
Re: [Vo]:Acoustic demonstration of beats
Hi Jones, Here's FYI of something similar, Jones, et al. When I was young and dumber I knew of a Dr. Cameron Jones who no longer works at Swinburne Uni. where he diluted colloidal gold to the proper density to get the correct spacing that entertained a plasmon resonance when painted on a surface. He painted CD ROMs with this gold-dot 'plasmonic surface' and the CD diode read laser plasmon information as visual image alterations. The Doctor suggested the skew indicated the plasmon resonance had a knowledge of the architecture of the image encoded in the CD dot-track. But there /were /echos of other dot-tracks evident in the images I saw posted. The technique does make and detect plasmon resonance. In the 90-s. Then he retired from academics to run the Blue Velvet night club. -don On 10/21/2020 12:44 PM, JonesBeene wrote: The possibility of an energy anomaly based on gold plasmons from nanoparticles being irradiated by lasers –using beat frequency or not - leads to an idea for a simple low cost experiment. Gold nanoparticle colloids are available at remarkably low prices due to growing use as cure-all dietary supplements. Obviously you don’t get much gold for $20 bucks on Amazon but your don’t need much. A drop of Pure Nano Colloidal Gold in water - 2oz Bottle 240ppm .999 Gold nanoparticles (on Amazon) would be interesting when irradiated by one or more small lasers. Add a little heavy water to the colloid and who knows what will turn up? This could happen on a microscope slide for instance – if you want a close up view. Bob Higgins wrote: Yes, the beats in the Hagelstein, Letts, and Cravens experiment are presumably formed by this process. A thin gold film was deposited on the cathode surface and the effect was not observed without the thin gold film. Has it been ruled out that the energy anomaly is not partly or solely due to plasmon formation alone ? It is believed that the thin gold went down as tiny islands that were responsible for the nonlinearity needed to form the beats. If the "islands" were in the size range of 2-12 nm, then the Casimir effect could come into play. The so-called "Wood's Anomalies" have been known for a century in various forms - and this plasmon anomaly of Hagelstein et al could be related to that. https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Chapter-2-Theory-of-Wood-%E2%80%99-s-Anomalies-Maystre/406d2c8f212c3286d85774815de62a2c75b748b8 IOW there is a possibility of actual energy gain from plasmon radiation alone which may or may not also have a nuclear effect as a secondary reaction when deuterium is present.
Re: [Vo]:Moving Moire beats
On 10/19/2020 12:10 PM, H LV wrote: https://youtu.be/6I0SF0dXoZg In addition to the generation of moire beats with different frequencies this video also seems to show that whether the moire beats move in the same or opposite direction as the revealing plane will depend on the spacing of the lines in the base plane. Harry Yes, a ratio between patterns select the direction that the interference patterns go relative to base grid-pattern movement. Moire pattern acceleration. That's a really great video you supplied showing pattern acceleration, Harry, in your message above. Vernier-caliper scales work on the same principle of ratios between two scales. The slide rules from back in the day produce an interference between two graduated scales as an arithmetic solution --a bit akin. Have you heard of the moire pattern magnetic gears as torque/speed/direction converters? They use the same principle of interference pattern acceleration/deceleration --but with magnets... *Magnomatics Magnetic Gear:* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ed4aitAXDsg *Magnetic Gear:* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qpHMZ9L4P8 Remember how strong magnets brought the the screen of the old CRT computer monitors or TVs would show interference patterns in color around the magnet? There are two grid-masks in the old picture-tubes that the electron beams go through. A proximal magnetic field perturbs the electron beam travel -as if-- the electrons see two differently sized grids. The virtual (magnetically) shrunken scale-difference of electron masking screens on a gradient toward the magnet produced bipolar symmetry interference patterns on the CRT screen in the three primary fluorescence colors of the screen phosphors. Colorfully demonstrated here... *Beauty of Magnetism (Magnets and CRT Screen): *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6t16HTP4Ri8 With the hyper-fine Newton's rings moire interference, the interfering patterns are 1) the curves of the rings, and 2) the sampling-rectilineation of the image bitmap. 1) plus 2) --affords--> pixelated interference from a raytracer. The pattern acceleration/deceleration in the newton's rings moire interference patterns is then always on a radial shift --since the rings are round. Stupid numbers of rings can be modeled in memory with POVRay, and the colors are made in algorithms. Therefore, the moire pattern acceleration in hyper-fine Newton's rings pixelations is a /lens apparent. // / / / Here is a dramatic lensing-event in a pixelated, hyper-fine Newton's rings moire interference pattern: Hyperfine Newton's ring pixealation-fractal with a lens-event showing a magnified dot as a Newton's ring (fractal recurrence at four orders of over-sampling stripes for a pixel): https://groupkos.com/dev/images/Newton%27s_rings_fractal_1000x1000_05054.png Copyright d...@groupkos.com 2020, released under MIT take-it-and-run-with-attribution-to-me license This image is created in computer memory as about two million rings on a parallel projection of a striped-sphere memory-model, sampled at 1000 x 1000 pixels --I think. The scale is on the image. The scale unit is the sphere diameter. (See below for more numbers on oversampling.) https://groupkos.com/dev/index.php?title=Category:Moire <-- Hyperfine Newton's rings --the movie, coming in the month of Roundtoit <-- lurk here and/or VO for stuff pending *DIY hyper-fine Newton's rings fractal movies for free (plus elbow greese):* 1) Free, open-source /POVRay /raytracer download: https://www.povray.org/download/ (a classic) 2) Copy the HNR POVRay source code from: https://groupkos.com/dev/index.php?title=Hyperfine_Newton%27s_Rings_Fractal_Moire_Pattern_Generator 2b) Copy/paste the automation-parameters found in the source code comments into the command box of POVRay (This invokes 1 sequence-images when ran). 3) Freeware rapid viewer of files in a folder for previewing POVRay image sequences: https://www.irfanview.com/ 4) A free image utility for mass file-type conversion and renaming: /Tinuous/: http://www.vieas.com/en/soft.html <-- search this page list for 'Tinuous' 5) A free fossilized app form way back for creating a big GIF animations from still images: /Microsoft GIF Animator: /https://archive.org/details/MicrosoftGifAnimator/(supports drag-n-drop from many images in a folder)/ 6) Need help? A Skype screen-share tutor-session sounds like pandemic relief. Reply off-list. 7) I need help; depending on who you ask. Cheers, -donE Colorado, 7888 feet up (lofty amateur science in rarified air --boiling point = 196 F.) Post script: *Rarified math* -- Crunching oversampling numbers; a light snack -- *Givens:* A black/white pattern scale of one is a sphere surface pattern of two hemispheres, one black and one white. A 1/2-scale of the black and white pattern makes a black and a white layer in each hemisphere. Half-scale [pattern
RE: [Vo]:Acoustic demonstration of beats
The possibility of an energy anomaly based on gold plasmons from nanoparticles being irradiated by lasers –using beat frequency or not - leads to an idea for a simple low cost experiment. Gold nanoparticle colloids are available at remarkably low prices due to growing use as cure-all dietary supplements. Obviously you don’t get much gold for $20 bucks on Amazon but your don’t need much. A drop of Pure Nano Colloidal Gold in water - 2oz Bottle 240ppm .999 Gold nanoparticles (on Amazon) would be interesting when irradiated by one or more small lasers. Add a little heavy water to the colloid and who knows what will turn up? This could happen on a microscope slide for instance – if you want a close up view. Bob Higgins wrote: > Yes, the beats in the Hagelstein, Letts, and Cravens experiment are > presumably formed by this process. A thin gold film was deposited on the > cathode surface and the effect was not observed without the thin gold film. Has it been ruled out that the energy anomaly is not partly or solely due to plasmon formation alone ? > It is believed that the thin gold went down as tiny islands that were > responsible for the nonlinearity needed to form the beats. If the "islands" were in the size range of 2-12 nm, then the Casimir effect could come into play. The so-called "Wood's Anomalies" have been known for a century in various forms - and this plasmon anomaly of Hagelstein et al could be related to that. https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Chapter-2-Theory-of-Wood-%E2%80%99-s-Anomalies-Maystre/406d2c8f212c3286d85774815de62a2c75b748b8 IOW there is a possibility of actual energy gain from plasmon radiation alone which may or may not also have a nuclear effect as a secondary reaction when deuterium is present.
Re: [Vo]:Acoustic demonstration of beats
Bob Higgins wrote: > Yes, the beats in the Hagelstein, Letts, and Cravens experiment are > presumably formed by this process. A thin gold film was deposited on the > cathode surface and the effect was not observed without the thin gold film. Has it been ruled out that the energy anomaly is not partly or solely due to plasmon formation alone ? > It is believed that the thin gold went down as tiny islands that were > responsible for the nonlinearity needed to form the beats. If the "islands" were in the size range of 2-12 nm, then the Casimir effect could come into play. The so-called "Wood's Anomalies" have been known for a century in various forms - and this plasmon anomaly of Hagelstein et al could be related to that. https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Chapter-2-Theory-of-Wood-%E2%80%99-s-Anomalies-Maystre/406d2c8f212c3286d85774815de62a2c75b748b8 IOW there is a possibility of actual energy gain from plasmon radiation alone which may or may not also have a nuclear effect as a secondary reaction when deuterium is present.
[Vo]:beats and patterns
The DeBrogle wave as a beat in the Compton frequency of the electron. http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/chapter7.html#Pg9 enjoy Frank Znidarsic
