Re: [VO]: Re: Predictions for year 2009

2009-01-10 Thread Horace Heffner

Some qualifications and updates follow.

I wrote: "If I-bonds or TIPS are held to maturity, unlike typical  
bond funds, or even the TIP ETF, no principle can be lost, and they  
probably gain a lot of interest. I-bonds can be held beyond maturity  
and still earn interest which is tax sheltered until redemption.   
Their current interest rate is 4.29 percent."  That assumes no  
premium or commission is paid, i.e. the bonds purchased through the  
treasury, which repays the principle in full at maturity, and pays  
interest in addition.   The interest rate earned on I-bonds I  
purchased around that time, early 2008, has since increased to over  
6%.  I expect that to drop if/as deflation sets in for a bit. There  
has been a huge appetite for US bonds of all types, so they demand a  
high premium in the open market presently, so some principle is at  
risk if bonds are purchased in that manner.


The current I-bond rates are at:

http://www.treasurydirect.gov/indiv/research/indepth/ibonds/ 
res_ibonds_iratesandterms.htm


http://tinyurl.com/284vou

The current fixed rate portion (of interest) is only 0.7% (it was  
1.2% last year this time.)  To that rate the CPI inflation rate is  
added (which at the moment is 4.92% annually, giving over 6% interest  
when added to a fixed rate of 1.2%.)  However, the inflation could in  
fact go negative at some point.  The interest paid is not allowed  
below zero, but I-bonds could actually end up yielding no interest in  
a significantly deflating economy.  The purchasing value of the bonds  
would still be increasing even if that happened.   Since some US  
bonds are selling at negative yields, a fixed rate of 0.7%, which  
will remain in effect for a bit, is a real bargain basement deal in  
this kind of market.


Best regards,

Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/



Re: [VO]: Re: Predictions for year 2009

2009-01-10 Thread Horace Heffner


On Jan 9, 2009, at 7:10 PM, R C Macaulay wrote:


Howdy Vorts,

Anyone have a handle on what is referred to in the stock market as  
"dark pools" ?
Are they engaged in "forward selling" that may be the cause of the  
weekly uppity-downs in the Dow?
Sum'tin tells me that there are some people out there a whole lot  
smarter than Jim Jubak.. well.. err.. unless he's one of them.. hmmm.

Maybe PT Barnum knew his circus business was a circus.

Richard


See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_pools_of_liquidity

and various other articles about them accessible through google.

I wrote about them here in 2008:

On Feb 9, 2008, at 4:32 AM, Horace Heffner wrote:

Within the context of the mortgage industry debacle precipitated  
financial crisis it appears there is something even more sinister  
making for the crazy markets:


http://tinyurl.com/3czmpr

Actual URL for above:

http://www.forbes.com/home/opinions/2008/02/06/croesus-chronicles- 
darkpools-oped-cz_rl_0207croesus.html


The quants and their systems may be unintentionally setting up the  
world markets and financial systems for a crash.  Automated  
arbitrage systems appear work fine until an underlying market  
fundamental changes, like sudden changes in the the value of real  
estate or some set of commodities.


The problem with modern portfolio theory is its fundamental  
assumption, that the market activity is actually based on  
stochastic processes.  It is assumed that all fundamentals are  
known by all the participants and very quickly "priced into the  
market".  All that is left is due to random fluctuations. I think a  
large part of the variance in the random distributions is not  
random at all, but rather merely due to variables and functions not  
understood, but which test well for being random distributions.  An  
example of this might be the effects of a feedback loop between  
publications (reporters) and politicians, and further, the changes  
in cycle time, amount, quality, distribution, and uncontrolled  
distribution of information brought about by the internet.


Of greater concern is the fact market transactions are increasingly  
instant computer trades rather than trades by open and manual  
bidding systems.  This vastly increases the "velocity of money"  
within the market place in times of a crises, and the velocity is  
further increased  when the buyers and sellers are mostly computers  
too.  We are moving toward the point where the ultimate  crash  
could take place in seconds.


The velocity of money V is the average frequency with which a unit  
of money is spent, the dollar turnover rate, the frequency of  
dollar spending per unit of time.  For a discussion of the velocity  
of money see:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantity_theory_of_money

and also see:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velocity_of_money

There you'll see Milton Friedman's famous equation:

   M*V = P*Q

   V = P*Q/M

where M is the money in circulation, and P*Q is the gross domestic  
product, the sum of the values of all transactions in a given  
period of time.  The value of a transaction is the unit price time  
quantity for the transaction. This is expressed in the equation of  
exchange:


   M*V = Sum[i=1,n] p_i*q_i

In a computer generated crash, a huge amount of the world's capital  
can cycle around between multiple investors instantly, i.e the  
velocity V -> inf.  Let F represent the values of all non stock  
market transactions:


   F = Sum[i=1,x] p_i*q_i

and G represent the sum of the values of all stock market  
transactions:


   G = Sum[i=x+1,n] p_i*q_i

This means

  V = (F+G)/M

and if F remains fixed, yet the market transaction values for some  
period go toward infinity, then we have as:


  as G -> inf, V -> (F+G)/M = (F+inf)/M = inf/M = inf

This means

  V = P*Q/M -> inf

if

   G -> inf

i.e. the velocity of money goes to infinity if the velocity of  
money in any subset of the economy goes to infinity.  Since the  
quantity of goods Q would remain fixed in the final seconds of  
collapse, it rigorously must be that, since P*Q/M -> inf, either  
(or both):


   P -> inf,   or  M -> 0

and neither case is good.  Such a collapse can, however, be  
triggered by a sudden reduction in Q, through the collapse of  
derivatives, e.g. futures contracts, which are in effect  
commodities manufactured from nothing, yet which require real money  
to buy.  If I have this right (and I am definitely not an  
economist!) in the end either price goes toward infinity, or money  
supply goes toward zero, or both.  Since we are in a global  
economy, this appears to apply to the global money supply.


It is now of concern that, unlike the way things unfolded in  
1929-1932, a total market collapse, as well as the bankruptcy of  
many brokerages, arbitrage houses, and banks, could be almost  
completely over before even a hint of it ever hits anyone's  
screens.  The only effective means of insurance is to be pre- 
positioned at all times.

[VO]: Re: Predictions for year 2009

2009-01-09 Thread R C Macaulay
Howdy Vorts,

Anyone have a handle on what is referred to in the stock market as "dark pools" 
? 
Are they engaged in "forward selling" that may be the cause of the weekly 
uppity-downs in the Dow?
Sum'tin tells me that there are some people out there a whole lot smarter than 
Jim Jubak.. well.. err.. unless he's one of them.. hmmm.
Maybe PT Barnum knew his circus business was a circus.

Richard