Re: [VO]:Re: Ozone and isotopes of O by microwave exitation
If I had time now, or resources, to contact them in the interest of mutually beneficial work, such would inevitably be part of my communication. Good work would be done given support to facilitate it. Zak On 3/15/2007, "R.C.Macaulay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Howdy Zac, > >The links you gave for Texas A&M research in two phase separation shows that >Aggies are beginning to learn how to attract research money... err.. well.. >maybe after they learn how to spell " seperate" . > I don't know any of these guys but if you do, you may mention they can >contact me regarding their water in space recovery system . They will need >to add "shapes" inside the cyclone separator to produce " sympathetic" >vortexes to position the gas and solids for extraction in a zero grav >regime. >Suspect the project they are working on is mostly for a search for the next >funding stage. Have to remember how NASA has morphed . > >Richard > >
Re: [VO]:Re: Ozone and isotopes of O by microwave exitation
Howdy Zac, The links you gave for Texas A&M research in two phase separation shows that Aggies are beginning to learn how to attract research money... err.. well.. maybe after they learn how to spell " seperate" . I don't know any of these guys but if you do, you may mention they can contact me regarding their water in space recovery system . They will need to add "shapes" inside the cyclone separator to produce " sympathetic" vortexes to position the gas and solids for extraction in a zero grav regime. Suspect the project they are working on is mostly for a search for the next funding stage. Have to remember how NASA has morphed . Richard
Re: [VO]:Re: Ozone and isotopes of O by microwave exitation
On 3/15/2007, "R.C.Macaulay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Zachary Wrote.. > >>Have you ever talked with any of the TExas A&M boys working on NASA's >vortex phase separator? > >No I have not. Tell me something about it or the people involved. > > The project director is Fred Best, who is a nuclear engineer with a focus in multi-phase flows. http://nuclear.tamu.edu/home/people/faculty/best/index.php Their work is with a a cylinder that injects a moist vapor / liquid froma tangent and sucks it out a port in the botom-center of the cylinder. A vortex flow forms in the process and they study it to understand phase transport effects (how stuff separates) in Zero-G. The system particularly focuses on liquid / gas separations. It system is on track for integration into NASA's "Immobilized Microbe Microgravity Water Processing System" (IMMWPS), for sustained living in space. It only works in microgravity Most of their work was done aboard parabolic trajectory planes. The work was done through his Interphase Transport Phenomena Laboratory http://itp.tamu.edu/ The only papers put out are from the ITP lab manager, Cable Kurwitz. I get the impression that the work they did was 'frozen' so it could enter NASA's pipeline to get flown. I've never spoken with Best or Kurwitz, though, so I can't comment on whether they've stalled recently, or are just in a holding pattern. Best also launched the Center for Space Power, which does a bunch of corporate stuff http://engineer.tamu.edu/tees/csp/index.html If I had to wager somewhere, I'd say Best's recent time in this area has been spent working with industry - even beyond the CSP >>thanks for the EDAV link, it's cute. > >Kim's EDAV has some ideas.. not to be discounted.. he has some people that >he claims has a working Implosion device.. he's been working on it long >enough but health has sidetracked him. > Hopefully he'll make more strides. What kind of 'implosion device'? That has been used to name a range of mechanisms. Zak
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Zac Wrote.. Have you ever talked with any of the TExas A&M boy working on NASA's vortex phase separator? No I have not. Tell me something about it or the people involved. thanks for the EDAV link, it's cute. Kim's EDAV has some ideas.. not to be discounted.. he has some people that he claims has a working Implosion device.. he's been working on it long enough but health has sidetracked him. Richard
Re: [VO]:Re: Ozone and isotopes of O by microwave exitation
Richard, In case you missed it, the one paper dealt with aspects of O6 structure and formation that seemed somewhat independent of environment. Admittedly, the papers are tiny pieces of the bigger puzzle... Have you ever talked with any of the TExas A&M boy working on NASA's vortex phase separator? thanks for the EDAV link, it's cute. Zak On 3/15/2007, "R.C.Macaulay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Zac wrote.. > >>Here are some studies dealing with O6, from our fancy >library: > >http://www.newalexandria.org/images/O6_studies.zip > >>Perhaps Richard, or someone else in Dime Box Texas, will have time to >pull out something useful from them. I only searched Elsevier briefly, >there are more extensive chem databases > > >Thanks Zac, > This paper resulted from a research grant by the Air Force and a China >University and relates to SO2 high altitude air quality particulates >involving S6 and inversely to O6. Their work is centered on air pollution >whereas our work is in disinfection of water using mixed oxidants including >O3. > Fortunately, Dime Box Texas lost out some years ago to College Station >Texas ( Texas A&M) so seldom is heard a discouraging word except for the >occasional broken mirror in the saloon when some drunk starts discussing >politics. > >Richard > >
Re: [VO]:Re: Ozone and isotopes of O by microwave exitation
Zac wrote.. Here are some studies dealing with O6, from our fancy library: http://www.newalexandria.org/images/O6_studies.zip Perhaps Richard, or someone else in Dime Box Texas, will have time to pull out something useful from them. I only searched Elsevier briefly, there are more extensive chem databases Thanks Zac, This paper resulted from a research grant by the Air Force and a China University and relates to SO2 high altitude air quality particulates involving S6 and inversely to O6. Their work is centered on air pollution whereas our work is in disinfection of water using mixed oxidants including O3. Fortunately, Dime Box Texas lost out some years ago to College Station Texas ( Texas A&M) so seldom is heard a discouraging word except for the occasional broken mirror in the saloon when some drunk starts discussing politics. Richard
[Vo]: Re: Ozone and isotopes of O by microwave exitation
Zachary Jones wrote: The original version of this mail got lost a few days ago. (I tried to attach the PDFs) Here are some studies dealing with O6, from our fancy library: http://www.newalexandria.org/images/O6_studies.zip Perhaps Richard, or someone else in Dime Box Texas, will have time to pull out something useful from them. Well, sadly, I have never had the pleasure of visiting Dime Box, but there are useful implications for alternative energy. As the authors of the above ref. say - a primary motivation ... was to establish the viability of oxygen rings as high energy density materials (HEDM) Perhaps 06 might provide a happy meeting ground (of properties), with substantial energy content and a substantial barrier to dissociation. Methinks the apparent lack of interest in this seemingly far-out possibility, amongst the larger science community, could be somewhat related to an apparent lack of imagination. (the mental deficiency, expressed in PC terminology: being "SciFi challenged" aka "pathological skepticism") Jones My 'listmania' start to a new list: "imagine the possibilities" of O6 (feel free to add -- we need to get at least 10 of them, to get this published on someone else's top-10 list of crank science projects ;-) 1) An alternative fuel derived from air 2) A more efficient oxidizer, derived from air 3) A more efficient water purifier (to make Richard-richer, perhaps ;-) 4) A more efficient chemical intermediary 5) A more efficient way to let divers stay underwater longer AND power an underwater PTO-unit :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
Re: [VO]:Re: Ozone and isotopes of O by microwave exitation
The original version of this mail got lost a few days ago. (I tried to attach the PDFs) Here are some studies dealing with O6, from our fancy library: http://www.newalexandria.org/images/O6_studies.zip Perhaps Richard, or someone else in Dime Box Texas, will have time to pull out something useful from them. I only searched Elsevier briefly, there are more extensive chem databases Zak On 3/12/2007, "R.C.Macaulay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >- Original Message - >From: "Michel Jullian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: >Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 3:20 AM >Subject: Re: [VO]:Re: Ozone and isotopes of O by microwave exitation > > >>> We have some experience in industrial size ozone generating systems in the >>> 1000PPD and above range. >> >> What's a PPD? > Ozone gas is measured in pounds per day .. PPD >> >>> Ozone gas is so stubborn that it resists mixing with water, the residual >>> properties are >>> extremely short lived and it is deadly. >> >> Not deadly (I read somewhere that no casualty has ever been attributed to >> ozone), but it's very painful if you inhale too much of it, very much like >> inhaling bleach, no wonder it has a similar effect on microorganisms. > >Very deadly.. a extreme oxidant. >> >> How is the ozone laden air pressurized in the industrial units you're using, >> air pump upstream of the ozone generation I imagine? And what's the >> operating principle of the O3 generator itself, is it the AC operated glass >> tube type? > >The incoming air is compressed, chilled and dried. The air enters the electric >arc chambers 8" diameter pipe runs( depending on type) and mixed into the main >process water . The air handling systems can be pressured or vacuum. > >> >>> Somewhere lurking in the back of my mind is an idea for using O6 as a >>> "grease" to slide the O3 >>> into the water molecule.. I know, Yes , I know it can't be done because O6 >>> may not be O6.. hmmm. >>> But if it is.. and it can be "borrowed" while it's extremely short life is >>> around to argue the point.. >>> it may be possible to " fold" the two into water before O6 catches on .. by >>> using a form of velocity >>> shear upwards to 150f/s periphical velocity of a parabolic segment shaped >>> "knife". >> >> I doubt this makes the slightest sense to anyone except perhaps yourself, >> but hey this is Vortex :) >> > >Hey ! You're not in Kindergarten.. Vortex is for people with some elastic > in their minds. > >>> We have been successful using this method for oxidation systems but O3 >>> alone doesn't want to play >>> fair. Microwave may be the trigger to generate O3 and O6 in the actual >>> water process stream and have >>> the mixing as a function of the O3 generating process. We have had our >>> Gasmastrrr units returned for >>> service that have the UHMW rotating member >> >> What's this, your tank-bottom ozonized air bubbler? > > See .. www.gasmastrrr.comThe gas is discharged into large mixing tanks > filled with water. The off-gas ozone that fails to mix is either recycled or > is destroyed so Michel doesn't learn the hard way that the stuff can kill ya. > >> >>> shot with electro-chem pitting >> >> Chem pitting more likely. I guess you mean electro-chem like pitting? > > Electro-chem pitting description covers a range.. strange to see the > results.. if you ever saw the results of propeller or pump impeller > cavitation you would understand. >> >>> that is a form of SL cavitation. >> >> What's this ? > Here goes sonolumeniscense.. long for SL.. >> >>> Ultra high molecular weight polyethelene "does not pit".. we all know that. >> >> Very few materials are ozone resistant Richard. Have you checked the ozone >> resistance of this particular PE? > >Re-check you data.. excellent resistance to O3 at below 120 degrees.. > maybe some swelling at 140 degrees. > >> Also some materials catalyze ozone destruction (reversal to O2), such >> materials in your ozonized air circuit would result in not much ozone >> reaching the water you want to treat. >> >> Michel >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "R.C.Macaulay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: >> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 2:25 AM >> Subject: [VO]:Re: Ozone and isoto
Re: [VO]:Re: Ozone and isotopes of O by microwave exitation
- Original Message - From: "R.C.Macaulay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [VO]:Re: Ozone and isotopes of O by microwave exitation >> We have some experience in industrial size ozone generating systems in the >> 1000PPD and above range. > > What's a PPD? Ozone gas is measured in pounds per day .. PPD OK thanks, pounds must be some indigenous unit I guess ;) Seriously, that's a hell of a lot of ozone! >> Ozone gas is so stubborn that it resists mixing with water, the residual >> properties are >> extremely short lived and it is deadly. > > Not deadly (I read somewhere that no casualty has ever been attributed to > ozone), but it's very painful if you inhale too much of it, very much like > inhaling bleach, no wonder it has a similar effect on microorganisms. Very deadly.. a extreme oxidant. Correct, I should have said "deadly, but no casualty recorded" (unless you know of any) > How is the ozone laden air pressurized in the industrial units you're using, > air pump upstream of the ozone generation I imagine? And what's the operating > principle of the O3 generator itself, is it the AC operated glass tube type? The incoming air is compressed, chilled and dried. The air enters the electric arc chambers 8" diameter pipe runs( depending on type) and mixed into the main process water . The air handling systems can be pressured or vacuum. OK, that's how I imagined it basically. >> Somewhere lurking in the back of my mind is an idea for using O6 as a >> "grease" to slide the O3 >> into the water molecule.. I know, Yes , I know it can't be done because O6 >> may not be O6.. hmmm. >> But if it is.. and it can be "borrowed" while it's extremely short life is >> around to argue the point.. >> it may be possible to " fold" the two into water before O6 catches on .. by >> using a form of velocity >> shear upwards to 150f/s periphical velocity of a parabolic segment shaped >> "knife". > > I doubt this makes the slightest sense to anyone except perhaps yourself, but > hey this is Vortex :) > Hey ! You're not in Kindergarten.. Vortex is for people with some elastic in their minds. Indeed! >> We have been successful using this method for oxidation systems but O3 alone >> doesn't want to play >> fair. Microwave may be the trigger to generate O3 and O6 in the actual water >> process stream and have >> the mixing as a function of the O3 generating process. We have had our >> Gasmastrrr units returned for >> service that have the UHMW rotating member > > What's this, your tank-bottom ozonized air bubbler? See .. www.gasmastrrr.com Nice! If that's your site there is a typo BTW :"The MASTRRR COMPANY manufacture_r_s a variety" The gas is discharged into large mixing tanks filled with water. The off-gas ozone that fails to mix is either recycled or is destroyed so Michel doesn't learn the hard way that the stuff can kill ya. Yeah, especially if Richard sneaks lethal "O6 isotopes" into it :) > >> shot with electro-chem pitting > > Chem pitting more likely. I guess you mean electro-chem like pitting? Electro-chem pitting description covers a range.. strange to see the results.. if you ever saw the results of propeller or pump impeller cavitation you would understand. > >> that is a form of SL cavitation. > > What's this ? Here goes sonolumeniscense.. long for SL.. So you observe light emissions from your rotating arm? In this case yes you probably have all sorts of ionic species in there, so your electro-chem description is appropriate. > >> Ultra high molecular weight polyethelene "does not pit".. we all know that. > > Very few materials are ozone resistant Richard. Have you checked the ozone > resistance of this particular PE? Re-check you data.. excellent resistance to O3 at below 120 degrees.. maybe some swelling at 140 degrees. I never said I had checked any data, good thing you have. Don't take my casual comments as criticisms BTW, I was not supposed to know the extent of your knowledge in this field, it's obviously excellent, better than mine on some points, thanks for the interesting discussion. Michel > Also some materials catalyze ozone destruction (reversal to O2), such > materials in your ozonized air circuit would result in not much ozone > reaching the water you want to treat. > > Michel > > > - Original Message - > From: "R.C.Macaulay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Mon
Re: [VO]:Re: Ozone and isotopes of O by microwave exitation
- Original Message - From: "Michel Jullian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 3:20 AM Subject: Re: [VO]:Re: Ozone and isotopes of O by microwave exitation >> We have some experience in industrial size ozone generating systems in the >> 1000PPD and above range. > > What's a PPD? Ozone gas is measured in pounds per day .. PPD > >> Ozone gas is so stubborn that it resists mixing with water, the residual >> properties are >> extremely short lived and it is deadly. > > Not deadly (I read somewhere that no casualty has ever been attributed to > ozone), but it's very painful if you inhale too much of it, very much like > inhaling bleach, no wonder it has a similar effect on microorganisms. Very deadly.. a extreme oxidant. > > How is the ozone laden air pressurized in the industrial units you're using, > air pump upstream of the ozone generation I imagine? And what's the operating > principle of the O3 generator itself, is it the AC operated glass tube type? The incoming air is compressed, chilled and dried. The air enters the electric arc chambers 8" diameter pipe runs( depending on type) and mixed into the main process water . The air handling systems can be pressured or vacuum. > >> Somewhere lurking in the back of my mind is an idea for using O6 as a >> "grease" to slide the O3 >> into the water molecule.. I know, Yes , I know it can't be done because O6 >> may not be O6.. hmmm. >> But if it is.. and it can be "borrowed" while it's extremely short life is >> around to argue the point.. >> it may be possible to " fold" the two into water before O6 catches on .. by >> using a form of velocity >> shear upwards to 150f/s periphical velocity of a parabolic segment shaped >> "knife". > > I doubt this makes the slightest sense to anyone except perhaps yourself, but > hey this is Vortex :) > Hey ! You're not in Kindergarten.. Vortex is for people with some elastic in their minds. >> We have been successful using this method for oxidation systems but O3 alone >> doesn't want to play >> fair. Microwave may be the trigger to generate O3 and O6 in the actual water >> process stream and have >> the mixing as a function of the O3 generating process. We have had our >> Gasmastrrr units returned for >> service that have the UHMW rotating member > > What's this, your tank-bottom ozonized air bubbler? See .. www.gasmastrrr.comThe gas is discharged into large mixing tanks filled with water. The off-gas ozone that fails to mix is either recycled or is destroyed so Michel doesn't learn the hard way that the stuff can kill ya. > >> shot with electro-chem pitting > > Chem pitting more likely. I guess you mean electro-chem like pitting? Electro-chem pitting description covers a range.. strange to see the results.. if you ever saw the results of propeller or pump impeller cavitation you would understand. > >> that is a form of SL cavitation. > > What's this ? Here goes sonolumeniscense.. long for SL.. > >> Ultra high molecular weight polyethelene "does not pit".. we all know that. > > Very few materials are ozone resistant Richard. Have you checked the ozone > resistance of this particular PE? Re-check you data.. excellent resistance to O3 at below 120 degrees.. maybe some swelling at 140 degrees. > Also some materials catalyze ozone destruction (reversal to O2), such > materials in your ozonized air circuit would result in not much ozone > reaching the water you want to treat. > > Michel > > > - Original Message - > From: "R.C.Macaulay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 2:25 AM > Subject: [VO]:Re: Ozone and isotopes of O by microwave exitation > > > Blank > Michael wrote.. > >>Are you into the design of an ozonizer Richard? > > Zachary wrote.. >>Would you be unveiling a master plan to mention what you need that a > commercial ozone unit won't provide? > > > We have some experience in industrial size ozone generating systems in the > 1000PPD and above range. The problems, the maintenance and the trouble mixing > ozone beg for better technology. It seems that microwave may have some > application considering the huge transformer banks required to boost voltage > for the present technology, plus the problems with drying the air or the > dangers of using pure oxy. Ozone gas is so stubborn that it resists mixing > with water, the residual properties are extremely short lived and it is > deadly.
Re: [VO]:Re: Ozone and isotopes of O by microwave exitation
> We have some experience in industrial size ozone generating systems in the > 1000PPD and above range. What's a PPD? > Ozone gas is so stubborn that it resists mixing with water, the residual > properties are > extremely short lived and it is deadly. Not deadly (I read somewhere that no casualty has ever been attributed to ozone), but it's very painful if you inhale too much of it, very much like inhaling bleach, no wonder it has a similar effect on microorganisms. How is the ozone laden air pressurized in the industrial units you're using, air pump upstream of the ozone generation I imagine? And what's the operating principle of the O3 generator itself, is it the AC operated glass tube type? > Somewhere lurking in the back of my mind is an idea for using O6 as a > "grease" to slide the O3 > into the water molecule.. I know, Yes , I know it can't be done because O6 > may not be O6.. hmmm. > But if it is.. and it can be "borrowed" while it's extremely short life is > around to argue the point.. > it may be possible to " fold" the two into water before O6 catches on .. by > using a form of velocity > shear upwards to 150f/s periphical velocity of a parabolic segment shaped > "knife". I doubt this makes the slightest sense to anyone except perhaps yourself, but hey this is Vortex :) > We have been successful using this method for oxidation systems but O3 alone > doesn't want to play > fair. Microwave may be the trigger to generate O3 and O6 in the actual water > process stream and have > the mixing as a function of the O3 generating process. We have had our > Gasmastrrr units returned for > service that have the UHMW rotating member What's this, your tank-bottom ozonized air bubbler? > shot with electro-chem pitting Chem pitting more likely. I guess you mean electro-chem like pitting? > that is a form of SL cavitation. What's this ? > Ultra high molecular weight polyethelene "does not pit".. we all know that. Very few materials are ozone resistant Richard. Have you checked the ozone resistance of this particular PE? Also some materials catalyze ozone destruction (reversal to O2), such materials in your ozonized air circuit would result in not much ozone reaching the water you want to treat. Michel - Original Message - From: "R.C.Macaulay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 2:25 AM Subject: [VO]:Re: Ozone and isotopes of O by microwave exitation Blank Michael wrote.. >Are you into the design of an ozonizer Richard? Zachary wrote.. >Would you be unveiling a master plan to mention what you need that a commercial ozone unit won't provide? We have some experience in industrial size ozone generating systems in the 1000PPD and above range. The problems, the maintenance and the trouble mixing ozone beg for better technology. It seems that microwave may have some application considering the huge transformer banks required to boost voltage for the present technology, plus the problems with drying the air or the dangers of using pure oxy. Ozone gas is so stubborn that it resists mixing with water, the residual properties are extremely short lived and it is deadly. Takes the finger nail polish off my nails Somewhere lurking in the back of my mind is an idea for using O6 as a "grease" to slide the O3 into the water molecule.. I know, Yes , I know it can't be done because O6 may not be O6.. hmmm. But if it is.. and it can be "borrowed" while it's extremely short life is around to argue the point.. it may be possible to " fold" the two into water before O6 catches on .. by using a form of velocity shear upwards to 150f/s periphical velocity of a parabolic segment shaped "knife". We have been successful using this method for oxidation systems but O3 alone doesn't want to play fair. Microwave may be the trigger to generate O3 and O6 in the actual water process stream and have the mixing as a function of the O3 generating process. We have had our Gasmastrrr units returned for service that have the UHMW rotating member shot with electro-chem pitting that is a form of SL cavitation. Ultra high molecular weight polyethelene "does not pit".. we all know that. Richard
[VO]:Re: Ozone and isotopes of O by microwave exitation
Blank Michael wrote.. >Are you into the design of an ozonizer Richard? Zachary wrote.. >Would you be unveiling a master plan to mention what you need that a commercial ozone unit won't provide? We have some experience in industrial size ozone generating systems in the 1000PPD and above range. The problems, the maintenance and the trouble mixing ozone beg for better technology. It seems that microwave may have some application considering the huge transformer banks required to boost voltage for the present technology, plus the problems with drying the air or the dangers of using pure oxy. Ozone gas is so stubborn that it resists mixing with water, the residual properties are extremely short lived and it is deadly. Takes the finger nail polish off my nails Somewhere lurking in the back of my mind is an idea for using O6 as a "grease" to slide the O3 into the water molecule.. I know, Yes , I know it can't be done because O6 may not be O6.. hmmm. But if it is.. and it can be "borrowed" while it's extremely short life is around to argue the point.. it may be possible to " fold" the two into water before O6 catches on .. by using a form of velocity shear upwards to 150f/s periphical velocity of a parabolic segment shaped "knife". We have been successful using this method for oxidation systems but O3 alone doesn't want to play fair. Microwave may be the trigger to generate O3 and O6 in the actual water process stream and have the mixing as a function of the O3 generating process. We have had our Gasmastrrr units returned for service that have the UHMW rotating member shot with electro-chem pitting that is a form of SL cavitation. Ultra high molecular weight polyethelene "does not pit".. we all know that. Richard Blank Bkgrd.gif Description: GIF image
[Vo]: Re: Ozone and isotopes of O by microwave exitation
Both studies sent deal with ozone production in a controlled air space, then extrapolate it to the upper atmosphere. Many commercial ozone producers for water purification feed the produced gased through the water in a way that encourages mixing. Would you be unveiling a master plan to mention what you need that a commercial ozone unit won't provide? Zak
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BlankThanks Vorts, For the response. My interest in ozone gas is for disinfection of water. The ozone in atmosphere is another study. Isotopes of O make for some interesting study also. Hmmm O6 for example.. such a strange beast to be lurking in the shadows. Richard - Original Message - From: R.C.Macaulay To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 8:15 PM Subject: [Vo]: Ozone and isotopes of O by microwave exitation Howdy Vorts, I cannot find the source, but I recall reading somewhere that experiments using microwave have produced ozone gas and isotopes of Oxygen up to O7. Anyone know about such a process ? Richard -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/716 - Release Date: 3/9/2007 6:53 PM Blank Bkgrd.gif Description: GIF image
