RE: [Vo]:430 kHz may be a LENR signature
Jones, Time and frequency may experience Lorentzian "expansion" since there is no spatial displacement if the oscillation is initiated while the environment is "contracted".. the electromagnetic oscillations occurring in the same Casimir environment with fractional/relativistic hydrogen might appear to slow down proportionally as the fractional hydrogen returns to normal size... never changed size in fact from it's own local perspective but rather the Casimir suppression changed C in the region between the geometry so you have a new way to alter the ratio of V^2/C^2 where velocity and spatial vector is of little importance compared to geometry and time [with suppression instead of velocity we outside the cavity appear to slow down due to dilation relative to a tiny observer in the cavity]..I posit this suppression at this nano geometry swamps out the gravitational square law we are bound to at the macro and breaks the isotropy / the normal slew rate for equivalent inertial frames is trumped by geometry...if this turns out to be related to catalytic action and the claims of modified radioactive decay then I would posit the "dilation" is more intense than the claims would suggest. The claims of modified decay rates represent the "averaged" rate for the radioactive gas , most of which is only exposed to lesser -non Casimir - confinement, this would mean the active sites responsible for anomalous heat in other claims may have a much higher dilation factor / smaller fractionalized hydrogen than we are being led to believe. Fran _ From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 6:59 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:430 kHz may be a LENR signature There is an RF signal which appears to have a strong correlation to excess heating events in one kind of LENR. This is from a recent paper at ICCF17. The signal has a frequency of .43 MHz (430 kHz). This seems to be a signature - and a strong one. But it is too early to generalize. I have looked high and low to find some broader significance to this particular frequency, but nothing seems to turn up. This is "longwave" once used for Morse code and warning beacons, but not much used anymore. Who wants a 700 meter antenna? There is some relevance to "Rabi frequency" and to MRI but this seems incidental. A real connection to nuclear events seems extremely remote, given the wavelength - but it is there, and knowing why it is there could be important. Very strange...
Re: [Vo]:430 kHz may be a LENR signature
Yep, it is running wild this time. Dave -Original Message- From: mixent To: vortex-l Sent: Tue, Nov 20, 2012 8:33 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:430 kHz may be a LENR signature In reply to Jones Beene's message of Tue, 20 Nov 2012 15:59:21 -0800: Hi, [snip] >There is an RF signal which appears to have a strong correlation to excess >heating events in one kind of LENR. This is from a recent paper at ICCF17. > >The signal has a frequency of .43 MHz (430 kHz). This seems to be a >signature - and a strong one. But it is too early to generalize. This could be a cyclotron frequency of electrons in the Van Allen belts. Maybe the Earth's magnetic field is acting as the magnetic field in a transformer, with the electrons in the Van Allen belts as the primary, and the experimental setup as the secondary? Or is my imagination running away with me? :) Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: [Vo]:430 kHz may be a LENR signature
Look at the acoustics of the electrodes. On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > There is an RF signal which appears to have a strong correlation to excess > heating events in one kind of LENR. This is from a recent paper at ICCF17. > > The signal has a frequency of .43 MHz (430 kHz). This seems to be a > signature - and a strong one. But it is too early to generalize. > > I have looked high and low to find some broader significance to this > particular frequency, but nothing seems to turn up. This is "longwave" once > used for Morse code and warning beacons, but not much used anymore. Who > wants a 700 meter antenna? > > There is some relevance to "Rabi frequency" and to MRI but this seems > incidental. > > A real connection to nuclear events seems extremely remote, given the > wavelength - but it is there, and knowing why it is there could be > important. > > Very strange... >
Re: [Vo]:430 kHz may be a LENR signature
radio beacons work in that range http://www.dxinfocentre.com/ndb.htm harry On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > There is an RF signal which appears to have a strong correlation to excess > heating events in one kind of LENR. This is from a recent paper at ICCF17. > > The signal has a frequency of .43 MHz (430 kHz). This seems to be a > signature - and a strong one. But it is too early to generalize. > > I have looked high and low to find some broader significance to this > particular frequency, but nothing seems to turn up. This is "longwave" once > used for Morse code and warning beacons, but not much used anymore. Who > wants a 700 meter antenna? > > There is some relevance to "Rabi frequency" and to MRI but this seems > incidental. > > A real connection to nuclear events seems extremely remote, given the > wavelength - but it is there, and knowing why it is there could be > important. > > Very strange...
RE: [Vo]:430 kHz may be a LENR signature
See slides 17-19 in the Steven Jones paper mentioned earlier. http://pesn.com/2012/11/19/9602225_Steven_Jones_replica--Pons_and_Fleischman n_XS_Heat_not_from_fusion/StevenJonesSeminarAtUnivMissouriOct2012.pdf It was apparently from a paper that NRL presented at ICCF17 but that is all I remember From: Daniel Rocha What is the paper? There is an RF signal which appears to have a strong correlation to excess heating events in one kind of LENR. This is from a recent paper at ICCF17. The signal has a frequency of .43 MHz (430 kHz). This seems to be a signature - and a strong one. But it is too early to generalize. I have looked high and low to find some broader significance to this particular frequency, but nothing seems to turn up. This is "longwave" once used for Morse code and warning beacons, but not much used anymore. Who wants a 700 meter antenna? There is some relevance to "Rabi frequency" and to MRI but this seems incidental. A real connection to nuclear events seems extremely remote, given the wavelength - but it is there, and knowing why it is there could be important. Very strange... -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com
RE: [Vo]:430 kHz may be a LENR signature
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auroral_kilometric_radiation interesting possibility -Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com >The signal has a frequency of .43 MHz (430 kHz). This seems to be a >signature - and a strong one. But it is too early to generalize. This could be a cyclotron frequency of electrons in the Van Allen belts. Maybe the Earth's magnetic field is acting as the magnetic field in a transformer, with the electrons in the Van Allen belts as the primary, and the experimental setup as the secondary? Or is my imagination running away with me? :) Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: [Vo]:430 kHz may be a LENR signature
What is the paper? 2012/11/20 Jones Beene > There is an RF signal which appears to have a strong correlation to excess > heating events in one kind of LENR. This is from a recent paper at ICCF17. > > The signal has a frequency of .43 MHz (430 kHz). This seems to be a > signature - and a strong one. But it is too early to generalize. > > I have looked high and low to find some broader significance to this > particular frequency, but nothing seems to turn up. This is "longwave" once > used for Morse code and warning beacons, but not much used anymore. Who > wants a 700 meter antenna? > > There is some relevance to "Rabi frequency" and to MRI but this seems > incidental. > > A real connection to nuclear events seems extremely remote, given the > wavelength - but it is there, and knowing why it is there could be > important. > > Very strange... > -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com
RE: [Vo]:430 kHz may be a LENR signature
The Global Frequency database for 1.720 MHz has an entry, but I don't think it's what you had in mind ... Location Callsign 1.72 MHzAM Kandahar, Afghanistan OKN :) -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton Subject: Re: [Vo]:430 kHz may be a LENR signature 430 * 4 = 1720, eh?
Re: [Vo]:430 kHz may be a LENR signature
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Tue, 20 Nov 2012 15:59:21 -0800: Hi, [snip] >There is an RF signal which appears to have a strong correlation to excess >heating events in one kind of LENR. This is from a recent paper at ICCF17. > >The signal has a frequency of .43 MHz (430 kHz). This seems to be a >signature - and a strong one. But it is too early to generalize. This could be a cyclotron frequency of electrons in the Van Allen belts. Maybe the Earth's magnetic field is acting as the magnetic field in a transformer, with the electrons in the Van Allen belts as the primary, and the experimental setup as the secondary? Or is my imagination running away with me? :) Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: [Vo]:430 kHz may be a LENR signature
430 * 4 = 1720, eh?
[Vo]:430 kHz may be a LENR signature
There is an RF signal which appears to have a strong correlation to excess heating events in one kind of LENR. This is from a recent paper at ICCF17. The signal has a frequency of .43 MHz (430 kHz). This seems to be a signature - and a strong one. But it is too early to generalize. I have looked high and low to find some broader significance to this particular frequency, but nothing seems to turn up. This is "longwave" once used for Morse code and warning beacons, but not much used anymore. Who wants a 700 meter antenna? There is some relevance to "Rabi frequency" and to MRI but this seems incidental. A real connection to nuclear events seems extremely remote, given the wavelength - but it is there, and knowing why it is there could be important. Very strange... <>
