Re: [Vo]:Elemental Ovens
It is interesting that you should wonder why E-cat systems have not been seen earlier. Over Christmas I met someone whilst out on a walk, got chatting, and found that they had been working on Palladium/Hydrogen systems in the 1960's, and had become aware that there was something odd going on. He had neither the time or authority to pursue this, and was therfore very interested when the P F thing happened a couple of decades later. He was unaware of the more recent events in Italy, and was fascinated, and not surprised by what is now happening. Nigel On 18/02/2012 00:32, Bastiaan Bergman wrote: given that thousands of scientists using billions of dollars in hydrogen and metal-hydride research (fuel cells and storage) have not stumbled upon E-Cat like processes for many years, I have to agree with you. unless, of course, the un-scientific evidence of Rossi was wrong to begin with. On Feb 17, 2012 11:41 AM, Randy Wullerrwul...@freeark.com wrote:
Re: [Vo]:Elemental Ovens
Nigel Dyer l...@thedyers.org.uk wrote: Over Christmas I met someone whilst out on a walk, got chatting, and found that they had been working on Palladium/Hydrogen systems in the 1960's, and had become aware that there was something odd going on. . . . In his book, Mizuno said every electrochemist knew there were puzzling thermal and nuclear anomalies with palladium deuterides. He himself observed several. However, he eventually dismissed them as experimental errors. He gives full credit to FP for following up on these things and producing them with far higher s/n ratios and reproducibility. He says this discovery is theirs, and theirs alone. - Jed
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There are reports decades before FP about cold fusion, Filimonenko Ivan Stepanovich for example... On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 6:34 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Nigel Dyer l...@thedyers.org.uk wrote: Over Christmas I met someone whilst out on a walk, got chatting, and found that they had been working on Palladium/Hydrogen systems in the 1960's, and had become aware that there was something odd going on. . . . In his book, Mizuno said every electrochemist knew there were puzzling thermal and nuclear anomalies with palladium deuterides. He himself observed several. However, he eventually dismissed them as experimental errors. He gives full credit to FP for following up on these things and producing them with far higher s/n ratios and reproducibility. He says this discovery is theirs, and theirs alone. - Jed
[Vo]:Elemental Ovens
Where do the elements heavier than iron originate? http://www.physorg.com/news/2012-02-rare-earth-element-tellurium-ancient.html T
Re: [Vo]:Elemental Ovens
Honestly, when I first heard that the theory for the origin of heavy elements in this universe was super nova's, my reaction was, that's got to be at best a SWAG (silly wild ass guess). I can't imagine we have enough evidence to confirm such a theory. Just a lawyer's gut reaction. Ransom - Original Message - From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 1:19 PM Subject: [Vo]:Elemental Ovens Where do the elements heavier than iron originate? http://www.physorg.com/news/2012-02-rare-earth-element-tellurium-ancient.html T
Re: [Vo]:Elemental Ovens
given that thousands of scientists using billions of dollars in hydrogen and metal-hydride research (fuel cells and storage) have not stumbled upon E-Cat like processes for many years, I have to agree with you. unless, of course, the un-scientific evidence of Rossi was wrong to begin with. On Feb 17, 2012 11:41 AM, Randy Wuller rwul...@freeark.com wrote: Honestly, when I first heard that the theory for the origin of heavy elements in this universe was super nova's, my reaction was, that's got to be at best a SWAG (silly wild ass guess). I can't imagine we have enough evidence to confirm such a theory. Just a lawyer's gut reaction. Ransom - Original Message - From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 1:19 PM Subject: [Vo]:Elemental Ovens Where do the elements heavier than iron originate? http://www.physorg.com/news/**2012-02-rare-earth-element-** tellurium-ancient.htmlhttp://www.physorg.com/news/2012-02-rare-earth-element-tellurium-ancient.html T
