Re: [Vo]:How to steal an electrion
thomas malloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Acorn people have gone out of their way to register people who don't have a right to vote. That is completely incorrect. *Some* of the ACORN people went out of their way to register fictitious people, and non-people such as Donald Duck. Actually, they didn't go out of their way; they did this in lieu of doing actual work. There is no chance that any of these registrations made it into the system, so they will cause no harm. I don't understand why the Debold system doesn't have a paper based electronic system, like we do in Minnesota. Good question! Every Diebold voting machine is equipped with a cash register printer and a roll of paper. You would have to change out the faceplate on top of the printer to print a ballot for each vote, but that would be a trivial matter. I figure it would cost ~$50 for the faceplate, plus a minor program change. Deibold says it can't be done, or they say they will charge $700 per machine and it will take years. The security problems with the Deibold machines could be 99.99% fixed by printing paper ballots and auditing a small fraction of total votes cast. That is, by comparing randomly selected precinct to confirm that the printed ballots totals agree with the voting machine totals. But it's clear to those of us on the right, that the Democrat's agenda is to win, and the law be damned. The right wing blogisphere has been all other the Acorn matter . . . That is complete nonsense. The Acorn matter is trivial, and ACORN did not violate any laws or do anything even slightly unethical. Some of ACORN's temporary employees did, but they were fired. ACORN followed the letter of the law, reporting the bogus applications and turning them in. You have to understand that as much as you fear a Republican victory, we fear a Democratic victory. I do not fear a Republican victory. The U.S. can survive 4 or 8 more years of Republican incompetence. It would be a shame if they win, and there will be many lost opportunities and no doubt more economic bad news, but I am sure the nation will survive. I also do not fear McCain. The only president who ever scared me was Nixon. As for Obama, I find it ludicous that anyone would be afraid of him -- or his agenda! That's like being afraid of Eisenhower or Carter. I can well understand why Republicans find his agenda distasteful, but Obama himself, and his means, methods and politics, are the squeeky-clean, white-bread, middle class, Eagle Scout John Glenn variety. He is professor of constitutional law, for goodness sake! Read his book. You will find nothing remotely dangerous or outside the norm. Of course you won't like his tax policies or health care policies, but policies can be changed. Just win the next election and put things back. Even if he were to socialize health care to some extent (which he will not do, but I wish he would) a later conservative government can privatize the system again. Nothing is permanent in politics or government. - Jed
[Vo]:How to steal an electrion
Jed Rothwell opined; It is utterly absurd for McCain or any other politician to cite ACORN as a threat to democracy The Acorn people have gone out of their way to register people who don't have a right to vote. I don't understand why the Debold system doesn't have a paper based electronic system, like we do in Minnesota. But it's clear to those of us on the right, that the Democrat's agenda is to win, and the law be damned. The right wing blogisphere has been all other the Acorn matter, and energizing the base is a good thing. Another example of this is Hugh Hewitt's book, It It's Not Close, They Can't Cheat. You have to understand that as much as you fear a Republican victory, we fear a Democratic victory. --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---
Re: [Vo]:How to steal an electrion
I volunteer for ACORN near election times to help run such voter registration desks. No, we go out of our way to fill out registration papers for EVERYONE who asks to. If they can't provide proper documentation to us, we send it in, with a note saying, could not verify, may not be legal voter. Which, if you'd dig your head out of your ass where its firmly entrenched, and read the actual news reports, is WHAT HAPPENED with this whole ACORN supposed scam. They fowarded every single app recieved (which they are legally REQUIRED to do, it is not ACORN's job to determine validity, or any other get out the vote operation) and sent a big stack with a note saying, double check these ones, we believe they might be invalid. Ohh yes, horrible horrible ACORN. On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 11:36 PM, thomas malloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jed Rothwell opined; It is utterly absurd for McCain or any other politician to cite ACORN as a threat to democracy The Acorn people have gone out of their way to register people who don't have a right to vote. I don't understand why the Debold system doesn't have a paper based electronic system, like we do in Minnesota. But it's clear to those of us on the right, that the Democrat's agenda is to win, and the law be damned. The right wing blogisphere has been all other the Acorn matter, and energizing the base is a good thing. Another example of this is Hugh Hewitt's book, It It's Not Close, They Can't Cheat. You have to understand that as much as you fear a Republican victory, we fear a Democratic victory. --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---
Re: [Vo]:How to steal an electrion
Thomas sez: ... You have to understand that as much as you fear a Republican victory, we fear a Democratic victory. We finally agree on something. ...It's a start. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:How to steal an electrion
On Oct 19, 2008, at 12:36 AM, thomas malloy wrote: Jed Rothwell opined; It is utterly absurd for McCain or any other politician to cite ACORN as a threat to democracy The Acorn people have gone out of their way to register people who don't have a right to vote. I don't understand why the Debold system doesn't have a paper based electronic system, like we do in Minnesota. But it's clear to those of us on the right, that the Democrat's agenda is to win, and the law be damned. The right wing blogisphere has been all other the Acorn matter, and energizing the base is a good thing. Another example of this is Hugh Hewitt's book, It It's Not Close, They Can't Cheat. You have to understand that as much as you fear a Republican victory, we fear a Democratic victory. Well, General Powell does not fear a Democratic victory when he just endorsed Obama. I would like to know how many lies and dirty tricks a candidate must use, and how much damage to the country the policies of the Republican party must cause for you to not fear a Democratic victory? Certainly, the imagined damage Obama and the Democrats might cause could not be worse than the real damage caused by the Republicans. Does reality no longer count in your thinking? Ed --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---
