Re: [Vo]:I will shut up about my aetheric images if at least 10 people try and take this poll
Thanks for trying it David. I really am grateful! I guess you didn't feel enough to say it works, but I will just note that if you can still feel the energy after removing the image, this doesn't mean much. Reason is the energy can remain for quite some time without the image. Now, if you tried another screen that seemed comparable, or a totally different location on the same screen and felt the same level of heat, that would be more compelling. I will note that while this is most assuredly NOT the placebo effect as the "feeler" doesn't need to be aware or even see the design/device to observe the energy. I am willing to count your result as a "fail", but if you could perhaps try against a control screen instead of against the same screen with the image removed as that is not going to work and get back it you see that there is a difference. Thanks. On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 6:49 AM David L. Babcock wrote: > Tried it twice, but arm/wrist got too tired to give it even 1/2 min. The > poll didn't give me an option to explicate my experience, so I post here; I > indeed felt something: heat. Moving closer and further increased and > decreased this as you would expect. > *When I tried this sequence on screen without image, it was exactly the > same. * > > This is the sort of basic element of experiment design which you really > have to incorporate! > In your defense, aspirin and many other meds do not effect me much; > perhaps I am placebo immune. Or "magic" immune. (I am pretty sure magic is > a real thing; I've seen it.) > > Please do not assume that by using the term "magic" I am denigrating your > findings, or your attempt to make explanations. I am firmly in the open > minded camp. > > Hey! Lets see some picture of your asymmetrical coils. > > Yours, David Babcock > > On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 3:28 PM Jonathan Berry wrote: > >> Please excuse the coercive nature of this email... >> >> But, I believe this technology is of the utmost importance, I >> believe that it needs more than one man working on/with it and I don't >> believe that there is another way to get attention or belief in this. >> Indeed attention requires belief. >> >> If 10 people take the poll and if the group is unconvinced that the >> results merit further discussion, then I will drop the subject and not >> bring it up for a year at least, the technology would need to improve >> markedly or demonstrate in a more material manner (some measurable effect) >> before I would re-present it ever to this group. >> >> I would hope that if roughly half the respondents (or more) feel the >> energy, and some feel a compelling degree (painful, burning, intense) then >> it should be viewed as supporting the idea that this deserves more >> attention. >> >> Let me run a poll on this list right now, everyone on here, who has tried >> the latest designs? >> I predict that fewer people will have tried it than outright rejected it. >> >> Here is the poll, BTW I ran a poll on the new group I started and while >> only 3 people have answered, all 3 can feel the energy, another could see >> it but not feel it so I have added that option. Some actually just feel >> strangely draw to the images. >> >> Vote here: https://linkto.run/p/09RVMGHOImage here: >> https://ibb.co/z5DFr69 >> Further images here: >> https://www.quora.com/What-discovery-have-you-made-which-the-world-isnt-mentally-ready-for/answer/Jonathan-Berry-95 >> >> *The image on the voting platform is terrible damaged from compression >> artifacts which hurt it*, so a better example is posted at the second >> link. >> >> My prediction is that fewer than 10 people, even here (supposed nest of >> believers) will try it despite my attempts to motivate people annoyed by >> the subject will try than report not feeling it. And despite the fact I >> have been on this group for over 20 years. Though I hope to be proven >> wrong. >> >> What if at least half do feel something, and that some of those feel a >> compelling degree of activity, what then? >> Would those who don't, or who are skeptical become interested? I would >> hope so, but we will see. >> >> >> Maybe my last email on the subject?! >> Jonathan >> >> >>
Re: [Vo]:I will shut up about my aetheric images if at least 10 people try and take this poll
Tried it twice, but arm/wrist got too tired to give it even 1/2 min. The poll didn't give me an option to explicate my experience, so I post here; I indeed felt something: heat. Moving closer and further increased and decreased this as you would expect. *When I tried this sequence on screen without image, it was exactly the same. * This is the sort of basic element of experiment design which you really have to incorporate! In your defense, aspirin and many other meds do not effect me much; perhaps I am placebo immune. Or "magic" immune. (I am pretty sure magic is a real thing; I've seen it.) Please do not assume that by using the term "magic" I am denigrating your findings, or your attempt to make explanations. I am firmly in the open minded camp. Hey! Lets see some picture of your asymmetrical coils. Yours, David Babcock On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 3:28 PM Jonathan Berry wrote: > Please excuse the coercive nature of this email... > > But, I believe this technology is of the utmost importance, I believe that > it needs more than one man working on/with it and I don't believe that > there is another way to get attention or belief in this. Indeed attention > requires belief. > > If 10 people take the poll and if the group is unconvinced that the > results merit further discussion, then I will drop the subject and not > bring it up for a year at least, the technology would need to improve > markedly or demonstrate in a more material manner (some measurable effect) > before I would re-present it ever to this group. > > I would hope that if roughly half the respondents (or more) feel the > energy, and some feel a compelling degree (painful, burning, intense) then > it should be viewed as supporting the idea that this deserves more > attention. > > Let me run a poll on this list right now, everyone on here, who has tried > the latest designs? > I predict that fewer people will have tried it than outright rejected it. > > Here is the poll, BTW I ran a poll on the new group I started and while > only 3 people have answered, all 3 can feel the energy, another could see > it but not feel it so I have added that option. Some actually just feel > strangely draw to the images. > > Vote here: https://linkto.run/p/09RVMGHOImage here: > https://ibb.co/z5DFr69 > Further images here: > https://www.quora.com/What-discovery-have-you-made-which-the-world-isnt-mentally-ready-for/answer/Jonathan-Berry-95 > > *The image on the voting platform is terrible damaged from compression > artifacts which hurt it*, so a better example is posted at the second > link. > > My prediction is that fewer than 10 people, even here (supposed nest of > believers) will try it despite my attempts to motivate people annoyed by > the subject will try than report not feeling it. And despite the fact I > have been on this group for over 20 years. Though I hope to be proven > wrong. > > What if at least half do feel something, and that some of those feel a > compelling degree of activity, what then? > Would those who don't, or who are skeptical become interested? I would > hope so, but we will see. > > > Maybe my last email on the subject?! > Jonathan > > >
Re: [Vo]:I will shut up about my aetheric images if at least 10 people try and take this poll
Note, checking the pole I voted twice, turns out you can vote twice, also it doesn't give straightforward numbers for votes total or each answer. One person had voted (they answered that they could feel it) somewhere is US or Canada (near the border). So let's use this poll instead: http://www.strawpoll.me/19451956 It has duplicate checking, and it reads out how many votes for each. I just voted that *"I could feel it"*, that can count for whoever already voted so they don't have to again, we will just count my test vote as this kind gentleman's vote. With the other poll it might have been hard to know when it got to 10 votes total. On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 4:49 PM Jonathan Berry wrote: > Here is a very nice improvement for those who take the poll (not checked > yet to see if anyone has)... > https://ibb.co/gtw3t3F > > On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 11:30 AM Jonathan Berry > wrote: > >> Also, if anyone thinks it would help, I will happily run a second poll >> with two or more images, potentially similar (or almost identical) in >> appearance but only one of then will be designed correctly to be "active". >> >> If many more votes were to occur for the active image despite it being my >> secret which one is active, that would be compelling evidence. >> >> I would be happy to tell someone, perhaps Mr Beaty himself which image I >> expect to receive the most votes, if he wishes not to know until he tries >> it. >> >> Would anyone be more convinced by this, and would enough people even try >> it?! >> >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 10:28 AM Jonathan Berry >> wrote: >> >>> Please excuse the coercive nature of this email... >>> >>> But, I believe this technology is of the utmost importance, I >>> believe that it needs more than one man working on/with it and I don't >>> believe that there is another way to get attention or belief in this. >>> Indeed attention requires belief. >>> >>> If 10 people take the poll and if the group is unconvinced that the >>> results merit further discussion, then I will drop the subject and not >>> bring it up for a year at least, the technology would need to improve >>> markedly or demonstrate in a more material manner (some measurable effect) >>> before I would re-present it ever to this group. >>> >>> I would hope that if roughly half the respondents (or more) feel the >>> energy, and some feel a compelling degree (painful, burning, intense) then >>> it should be viewed as supporting the idea that this deserves more >>> attention. >>> >>> Let me run a poll on this list right now, everyone on here, who has >>> tried the latest designs? >>> I predict that fewer people will have tried it than outright rejected it. >>> >>> Here is the poll, BTW I ran a poll on the new group I started and while >>> only 3 people have answered, all 3 can feel the energy, another could see >>> it but not feel it so I have added that option. Some actually just feel >>> strangely draw to the images. >>> >>> Vote here: https://linkto.run/p/09RVMGHOImage here: >>> https://ibb.co/z5DFr69 >>> Further images here: >>> https://www.quora.com/What-discovery-have-you-made-which-the-world-isnt-mentally-ready-for/answer/Jonathan-Berry-95 >>> >>> *The image on the voting platform is terrible damaged from compression >>> artifacts which hurt it*, so a better example is posted at the second >>> link. >>> >>> My prediction is that fewer than 10 people, even here (supposed nest of >>> believers) will try it despite my attempts to motivate people annoyed by >>> the subject will try than report not feeling it. And despite the fact I >>> have been on this group for over 20 years. Though I hope to be proven >>> wrong. >>> >>> What if at least half do feel something, and that some of those feel a >>> compelling degree of activity, what then? >>> Would those who don't, or who are skeptical become interested? I would >>> hope so, but we will see. >>> >>> >>> Maybe my last email on the subject?! >>> Jonathan >>> >>> >>>
Re: [Vo]:I will shut up about my aetheric images if at least 10 people try and take this poll
Here is a very nice improvement for those who take the poll (not checked yet to see if anyone has)... https://ibb.co/gtw3t3F On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 11:30 AM Jonathan Berry wrote: > Also, if anyone thinks it would help, I will happily run a second poll > with two or more images, potentially similar (or almost identical) in > appearance but only one of then will be designed correctly to be "active". > > If many more votes were to occur for the active image despite it being my > secret which one is active, that would be compelling evidence. > > I would be happy to tell someone, perhaps Mr Beaty himself which image I > expect to receive the most votes, if he wishes not to know until he tries > it. > > Would anyone be more convinced by this, and would enough people even try > it?! > > > > On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 10:28 AM Jonathan Berry > wrote: > >> Please excuse the coercive nature of this email... >> >> But, I believe this technology is of the utmost importance, I >> believe that it needs more than one man working on/with it and I don't >> believe that there is another way to get attention or belief in this. >> Indeed attention requires belief. >> >> If 10 people take the poll and if the group is unconvinced that the >> results merit further discussion, then I will drop the subject and not >> bring it up for a year at least, the technology would need to improve >> markedly or demonstrate in a more material manner (some measurable effect) >> before I would re-present it ever to this group. >> >> I would hope that if roughly half the respondents (or more) feel the >> energy, and some feel a compelling degree (painful, burning, intense) then >> it should be viewed as supporting the idea that this deserves more >> attention. >> >> Let me run a poll on this list right now, everyone on here, who has tried >> the latest designs? >> I predict that fewer people will have tried it than outright rejected it. >> >> Here is the poll, BTW I ran a poll on the new group I started and while >> only 3 people have answered, all 3 can feel the energy, another could see >> it but not feel it so I have added that option. Some actually just feel >> strangely draw to the images. >> >> Vote here: https://linkto.run/p/09RVMGHOImage here: >> https://ibb.co/z5DFr69 >> Further images here: >> https://www.quora.com/What-discovery-have-you-made-which-the-world-isnt-mentally-ready-for/answer/Jonathan-Berry-95 >> >> *The image on the voting platform is terrible damaged from compression >> artifacts which hurt it*, so a better example is posted at the second >> link. >> >> My prediction is that fewer than 10 people, even here (supposed nest of >> believers) will try it despite my attempts to motivate people annoyed by >> the subject will try than report not feeling it. And despite the fact I >> have been on this group for over 20 years. Though I hope to be proven >> wrong. >> >> What if at least half do feel something, and that some of those feel a >> compelling degree of activity, what then? >> Would those who don't, or who are skeptical become interested? I would >> hope so, but we will see. >> >> >> Maybe my last email on the subject?! >> Jonathan >> >> >>
Re: [Vo]:I will shut up about my aetheric images if at least 10 people try and take this poll
Also, if anyone thinks it would help, I will happily run a second poll with two or more images, potentially similar (or almost identical) in appearance but only one of then will be designed correctly to be "active". If many more votes were to occur for the active image despite it being my secret which one is active, that would be compelling evidence. I would be happy to tell someone, perhaps Mr Beaty himself which image I expect to receive the most votes, if he wishes not to know until he tries it. Would anyone be more convinced by this, and would enough people even try it?! On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 10:28 AM Jonathan Berry wrote: > Please excuse the coercive nature of this email... > > But, I believe this technology is of the utmost importance, I believe that > it needs more than one man working on/with it and I don't believe that > there is another way to get attention or belief in this. Indeed attention > requires belief. > > If 10 people take the poll and if the group is unconvinced that the > results merit further discussion, then I will drop the subject and not > bring it up for a year at least, the technology would need to improve > markedly or demonstrate in a more material manner (some measurable effect) > before I would re-present it ever to this group. > > I would hope that if roughly half the respondents (or more) feel the > energy, and some feel a compelling degree (painful, burning, intense) then > it should be viewed as supporting the idea that this deserves more > attention. > > Let me run a poll on this list right now, everyone on here, who has tried > the latest designs? > I predict that fewer people will have tried it than outright rejected it. > > Here is the poll, BTW I ran a poll on the new group I started and while > only 3 people have answered, all 3 can feel the energy, another could see > it but not feel it so I have added that option. Some actually just feel > strangely draw to the images. > > Vote here: https://linkto.run/p/09RVMGHOImage here: > https://ibb.co/z5DFr69 > Further images here: > https://www.quora.com/What-discovery-have-you-made-which-the-world-isnt-mentally-ready-for/answer/Jonathan-Berry-95 > > *The image on the voting platform is terrible damaged from compression > artifacts which hurt it*, so a better example is posted at the second > link. > > My prediction is that fewer than 10 people, even here (supposed nest of > believers) will try it despite my attempts to motivate people annoyed by > the subject will try than report not feeling it. And despite the fact I > have been on this group for over 20 years. Though I hope to be proven > wrong. > > What if at least half do feel something, and that some of those feel a > compelling degree of activity, what then? > Would those who don't, or who are skeptical become interested? I would > hope so, but we will see. > > > Maybe my last email on the subject?! > Jonathan > > >
[Vo]:I will shut up about my aetheric images if at least 10 people try and take this poll
Please excuse the coercive nature of this email... But, I believe this technology is of the utmost importance, I believe that it needs more than one man working on/with it and I don't believe that there is another way to get attention or belief in this. Indeed attention requires belief. If 10 people take the poll and if the group is unconvinced that the results merit further discussion, then I will drop the subject and not bring it up for a year at least, the technology would need to improve markedly or demonstrate in a more material manner (some measurable effect) before I would re-present it ever to this group. I would hope that if roughly half the respondents (or more) feel the energy, and some feel a compelling degree (painful, burning, intense) then it should be viewed as supporting the idea that this deserves more attention. Let me run a poll on this list right now, everyone on here, who has tried the latest designs? I predict that fewer people will have tried it than outright rejected it. Here is the poll, BTW I ran a poll on the new group I started and while only 3 people have answered, all 3 can feel the energy, another could see it but not feel it so I have added that option. Some actually just feel strangely draw to the images. Vote here: https://linkto.run/p/09RVMGHOImage here: https://ibb.co/z5DFr69 Further images here: https://www.quora.com/What-discovery-have-you-made-which-the-world-isnt-mentally-ready-for/answer/Jonathan-Berry-95 *The image on the voting platform is terrible damaged from compression artifacts which hurt it*, so a better example is posted at the second link. My prediction is that fewer than 10 people, even here (supposed nest of believers) will try it despite my attempts to motivate people annoyed by the subject will try than report not feeling it. And despite the fact I have been on this group for over 20 years. Though I hope to be proven wrong. What if at least half do feel something, and that some of those feel a compelling degree of activity, what then? Would those who don't, or who are skeptical become interested? I would hope so, but we will see. Maybe my last email on the subject?! Jonathan
