Re: [Vo]:Magnetic/Inertial Drive Motors: Important claims are patented or published as quickly as possible

2012-09-03 Thread ChemE Stewart
Like, I said, I wish these guys were healthier...

DePalma's partner with the magnetic motor, also an MIT graduate, Ed Delvers
dies at age 52 of apparent Acute Asthma Attack
http://www.scribd.com/doc/86710207/Bruce-Depalma-History

Another Magnetic motor guy Ed Gray also met an untimely death

http://keelynet.com/evgray/evgray.htm
http://fuel-efficient-vehicles.org/energy-news/?page_id=955

Joseph Papp died around age 56 of colon cancer

Tom Rohner, who worked for Joseph Papp recently passed at age 63 from
Pancreatic cancer.

I do not believe in conspiracy theories nor do I believe that there is
anything such as free energy

I do believe that whatever the effect is, collapse or fusion, it probably
has some health implications at certain sustained levels and/or exposure
lengths from the EMRs or EMPs emitted from these devices.

Stewart



On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey, I see Bruce's web page is still active:

 http://www.brucedepalma.com/

 His early passing is attributed to his heavy alcohol consumption by
 those who knew him:

 http://www.padrak.com/ine/DEPALMA2.html

 Homopolar generators are very interesting but not OU.

 T




Re: [Vo]:Magnetic/Inertial Drive Motors: Important claims are patented or published as quickly as possible

2012-08-31 Thread ChemE Stewart
I think I will send without an attachment


 Found this recent 2011 patent application for an inertial drive similar to
 the TerraWatt drive and attached the google patent version and another link

 http://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/WO2011044588

 Filed by this guy:
 Joseph P. Firmage, 28, founded USWeb, a leading Internet consulting firm,
 in 1995. Like his previous ventures, the company prospered wildly. For
 fiscal 1998, USWeb posted revenue of $228 million - a 100% increase over
 the previous year.

 He referenced one of the early magnetic motor developers, Bruce De Palma
  MIT/Harvard grad (Brian's brother - Scarface Director).  Bruce evidently
 had a working demo unit  filed a patent application back in the 1990's
 before succumbing to stomach cancer and/or internal bleeding at age 52.
  The motor was never brought to market.

 http://www.scribd.com/doc/86710207/Bruce-Depalma-History
 http://www.brucedepalma.com/

 Just food for thought.

 I wish some of these guys stayed healthier.

 Stewart















 On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com wrote:

 A patent is not the only way to protect an idea. In practice, trade
 secret law may be more important. This is particularly true when the idea
 to be protected is not the product itself, but the process used to produce
 it.

 Consider the high-K metal gate process used by Intel at the 45nm and 32nm
 nodes. Intel published a small amount of information about the process when
 they introduced it. And competitors have undoubtedly reverse engineered the
 results, determining the precise geometries and elemental makeup of the
 devices.

 But they do not know the process used to produce them. They are forced to
 hypothesize about the process technology and then test each hypothesis.
 Certainly, knowing the final result is a huge advantage over having to
 dream it up in the first place. But reverse engineering the manufacturing
 process is still daunting, even for engineers already skilled in the art.

 I think there may be analogies in LENR. Now frankly in the long run, I
 don't expect this fact to be especially significant. If this stuff plays
 out as some of us hope, the economic incentive will ensure that what can be
 done, will be done, and quickly. If it doesn't play out, there are no
 useful secrets to protect.

 But trade secrecy may have a large effect on the likelihood of people
 like me, a curious non-specialist, ever being able to satisfy my curiosity
 about what the heck is going on. Bummer.  ;-)

 Jeff, speaking for myself.
 I have never been employed by Intel or had access to any Intel
 trade-secret information through NDA or anything like that.

 On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:

 I wrote:


 Generally speaking, in my experience, the value of a technical claim is
 inversely proportional to the level of secrecy applied to it.


 I am not being cynical. Well, not completely cynical. In technology,
 when you make an important claim you file a patent. A patent must reveal
 everything or it is invalid. In pure science, when you make an important
 breakthrough you rush to publish it as soon as possible to establish
 priority.

 Sometimes, foolish people make what they think is an important
 breakthrough and they try to keep it secret. These breakthroughs are
 usually mistakes or stuff that everyone knows already.

 Howard Aiken's dictum applies: Don't worry about people stealing your
 ideas. If your ideas are any good, you'll have to ram them down people's
 throats.

 - Jed






Re: [Vo]:Magnetic/Inertial Drive Motors: Important claims are patented or published as quickly as possible

2012-08-31 Thread Terry Blanton
I remember Joe Firmage from my MUFON days:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg192CjeuK4

Good thing it wasn't an Incubus.

T



Re: [Vo]:Magnetic/Inertial Drive Motors: Important claims are patented or published as quickly as possible

2012-08-31 Thread ChemE Stewart
Either (1) Medical Marijuana patient...(2)  a surge of quarks/gluons to the
synapses.  Either one will trigger similar events

On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:

 I remember Joe Firmage from my MUFON days:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg192CjeuK4

 Good thing it wasn't an Incubus.

 T




Re: [Vo]:Magnetic/Inertial Drive Motors: Important claims are patented or published as quickly as possible

2012-08-31 Thread Terry Blanton
Hey, I see Bruce's web page is still active:

http://www.brucedepalma.com/

His early passing is attributed to his heavy alcohol consumption by
those who knew him:

http://www.padrak.com/ine/DEPALMA2.html

Homopolar generators are very interesting but not OU.

T



RE: [Vo]:Magnetic/Inertial Drive Motors: Important claims are patented or published as quickly as possible

2012-08-31 Thread Jones Beene

-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton 

I remember Joe Firmage from my MUFON days:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg192CjeuK4

Good thing it wasn't an Incubus.


Are you sure it wasn't some kind of demon, in disguise 

http://exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,197023

5th message down from 'ex employee' ...






Re: [Vo]:Magnetic/Inertial Drive Motors: Important claims are patented or published as quickly as possible

2012-08-31 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:52 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
 Either (1) Medical Marijuana patient...(2)  a surge of quarks/gluons to the
 synapses.  Either one will trigger similar events

I vote for the magic mushroom (amanita muscaria):

http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2008/09/jesus-christ-magic-mushroom-part-1.html

Again, with musical accompaniment :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtiMw0-akAM