RE: [Vo]:Maxwell's Demon, naw!
>>How are you powering the demon door? PM fields. -Original Message- From: thomas malloy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 10:41 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Maxwell's Demon, naw! Stiffler Scientific wrote: >Maxwell's Demon, How to know he is working? > >Ambient Ta ~ 23.5 'C (input air temp) > >Air pump @ 4 PSIG, adds ~ 0.5 'C to air temp., giving working air temp of Tq >= 24 'C > >Outlet (1) T1 = 24 'C >Outlet (2) T2 = 24.6 'C (Demon door installed) > > How are you powering the demon door? --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! ---
Re: [Vo]:Maxwell's Demon, naw!
Stiffler Scientific wrote: Maxwell's Demon, How to know he is working? Ambient Ta ~ 23.5 'C (input air temp) Air pump @ 4 PSIG, adds ~ 0.5 'C to air temp., giving working air temp of Tq = 24 'C Outlet (1) T1 = 24 'C Outlet (2) T2 = 24.6 'C (Demon door installed) How are you powering the demon door? --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! ---
RE: [Vo]:Maxwell's Demon, naw!
Here is a like to one of the first setups that showed a T increase. http://www.stifflerscientific.com/images/dd01.jpg THis may help in showing the basic approach. -Original Message- From: Stiffler Scientific [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 8:10 AM To: Vortex-L Subject: [Vo]:Maxwell's Demon, naw! Maxwell's Demon, How to know he is working? Ambient Ta ~ 23.5 'C (input air temp) Air pump @ 4 PSIG, adds ~ 0.5 'C to air temp., giving working air temp of Tq = 24 'C Outlet (1) T1 = 24 'C Outlet (2) T2 = 24.6 'C (Demon door installed) Outlet 1&2 are both @ 4 PSIG and only difference is the Demon door? Outlet 1 & 2 reach equilibrium with ambient when pump is off (no air flow). All instruments are calibrated to NIST standards and Outlet 1 & 2 will reach equilibrium with ambient with no air flow. No obstructions exist in outlets, except for Temperature and Humidity probes (all the same in each tube). The outlet ports are at the same elevation above test bench. What is suggested to insure that the Demon may indeed be present? Will be trying a cascade of the setup to see if the +0.6 'C can indeed be increased to a total of +1.2 'C by the addition of the second unit. At the present insulations is not being employed. Any suggesting on what should be tried to determine the anomalous increase in temperature? I would think that if it was the Demon that the outlet (1) temp should be Tq - 0.6 = T1 ~ 23.4 which is not the case. I would think that if the Demon was at work that cooling should also be seen. So that vorts time is not wasted, I will welcome suggestion via private mail on how the experiment might be monitored so that this strange difference can be found. Unless found to be a stupid measurement error and vorts want additional info I will supply a link to the test data.
[Vo]:Maxwell's Demon, naw!
Maxwell's Demon, How to know he is working? Ambient Ta ~ 23.5 'C (input air temp) Air pump @ 4 PSIG, adds ~ 0.5 'C to air temp., giving working air temp of Tq = 24 'C Outlet (1) T1 = 24 'C Outlet (2) T2 = 24.6 'C (Demon door installed) Outlet 1&2 are both @ 4 PSIG and only difference is the Demon door? Outlet 1 & 2 reach equilibrium with ambient when pump is off (no air flow). All instruments are calibrated to NIST standards and Outlet 1 & 2 will reach equilibrium with ambient with no air flow. No obstructions exist in outlets, except for Temperature and Humidity probes (all the same in each tube). The outlet ports are at the same elevation above test bench. What is suggested to insure that the Demon may indeed be present? Will be trying a cascade of the setup to see if the +0.6 'C can indeed be increased to a total of +1.2 'C by the addition of the second unit. At the present insulations is not being employed. Any suggesting on what should be tried to determine the anomalous increase in temperature? I would think that if it was the Demon that the outlet (1) temp should be Tq - 0.6 = T1 ~ 23.4 which is not the case. I would think that if the Demon was at work that cooling should also be seen. So that vorts time is not wasted, I will welcome suggestion via private mail on how the experiment might be monitored so that this strange difference can be found. Unless found to be a stupid measurement error and vorts want additional info I will supply a link to the test data.
