Re: [Vo]:NIH-Antivirus compound via L-Lysine and Proline

2020-03-17 Thread Ron Wormus
This looks promising:
An Effective Treatment for Coronavirus (COVID-19)
Presented by: James M. Todaro, MD (Columbia MD, jtoda...@gmail.com) and Gregory 
J. Rigano, Esq. (griga...@jhu.edu)
In consultation with Stanford University School of Medicine, UAB School of 
Medicine and National Academy of Sciences researchers.
March 13, 2020

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTi-
g18ftNZUMRAj2SwRPodtscFio7bJ7GdNgbJAGbdfF67WuRJB3ZsidgpidB2eocFHAVjIL-
7deJ7/pub?fbclid=IwAR3HXmAaRvsKQwtD4mT0W6NU4bTJvZnR6f3KLRcsWkXSOGn33dbdR1KyS0Q



- Original Message -
From: Jones Beene 
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To: 
Sent: 3/17/2020 6:23:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:NIH-Antivirus compound via L-Lysine and Proline



CB Sites  wrote: 




Interesting.  Just a note on a side effect of licorice... It raises blood 
pressure, so many folks with high BP should avoid it, or at least look it up 
before using regularly.




-


Yes - that is true and a serious problem for many of us but there is a newer 
product that has the culprit chemical removed. It is called DGL and is 
available from Amazon.


BTW here is a story on how this search for effective natural antivirals of 
threat reducers came into focus ... which source makes it easy to scoff at, if 
you are a proponent of Big-Pharma. 



https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/must-read-china-s-secret-to-controlling-
the-covid-19-outbreak-is-traditional-chinese-medicine-concoctions-used-alone-or-
in-conjunction-with-antiviral-


I think traditional medicine has value and can move us closer to a real cure -  
and in the context of most everything else being fake or close to no effect it 
is positive. No one says it is a cure. 



A real palliative is of enormous value in the big picture. 



Tamiflu, for instance, is perhaps the biggest fake in US medicine, almost zero 
value against corona virus.


Re: [Vo]:NIH-Antivirus compound via L-Lysine and Proline

2020-03-17 Thread Frank Znidarsic

I saw on the news two days ago a feature on an anti cancer drug that stops the 
corona virus "on the spot".  I believe it was on CBS. It has already passed 
clinical trials as a cancer treatment for safety.  It will take up to one year 
to get it approved for the corona virus.  The doctor in the article said,  
"What's the hold up?"
Thats the same thing as happed with AIDS.  The cancer drug AZT proved by 
circumstance to be effective against aids.
Frank Z



  


Re: [Vo]:NIH-Antivirus compound via L-Lysine and Proline

2020-03-17 Thread Jones Beene
CB Sites  wrote: 
 
 Interesting.  Just a note on a side effect of licorice... It raises blood 
pressure, so many folks with high BP should avoid it, or at least look it up 
before using regularly.

-
Yes - that is true and a serious problem for many of us but there is a newer 
product that has the culprit chemical removed. It is called DGL and is 
available from Amazon.
BTW here is a story on how this search for effective natural antivirals of 
threat reducers came into focus ... which source makes it easy to scoff at, if 
you are a proponent of Big-Pharma. 

https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/must-read-china-s-secret-to-controlling-the-covid-19-outbreak-is-traditional-chinese-medicine-concoctions-used-alone-or-in-conjunction-with-antiviral-
I think traditional medicine has value and can move us closer to a real cure -  
and in the context of most everything else being fake or close to no effect it 
is positive. No one says it is a cure. 

A real palliative is of enormous value in the big picture. 

Tamiflu, for instance, is perhaps the biggest fake in US medicine, almost zero 
value against corona virus.



  
  

Re: [Vo]:NIH-Antivirus compound via L-Lysine and Proline

2020-03-17 Thread CB Sites
Interesting.  Just a note on a side effect of licorice... It raises blood
pressure, so many folks with high BP should avoid it, or at least look it
up before using regularly.



Chuck Sites

On Tue, Mar 17, 2020, 2:47 PM Jones Beene  wrote:

> Ron Kita wrote:
>
>
> Greetings Vortex members,
>
> Below is from the NIH PubMed-
>
> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19276537
>
> ---
>
> As a practical matter of going to the next level - here is a supplement
> from Amazon which is recommended as a broad range anti-viral and is similar
> to the above.
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Health-Tablets-Support-Supplement/dp/B001CMZB4U/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2JQIWSOOXQR7I=lysine+quantum+health=1584468769=lysine+quantum%2Caps%2C243=8-1
>
> Curiously - the Wuhan medical reports on effective treatments in hospitals
> (and given there is no cure) - which were collected and evaluated from
> papers in the last two weeks, indicate that "traditional medicine" (herbal
> concoctions) provide a significantly higher survival rate than was expected
> - and a key ingredient in the ones which were tested appears to be *licorice
> *- which has been used for 5000 years in traditional medicine. The
> tablets above contain a small amount of licorice.
>
> At a few cents per tablet - there is little downside risk to taking these
> even with no symptoms. The risk of doing nothing is high and let's face it
> - China has indeed made a startling turn-around in controlling the spread.
> Everyone though it would be much worse there than it has turned out to be
> and a part of that success could be overlooked by Big-Pharma here. They
> simple cannot profit when the competition is natural.
>
> The difference between the poorer statistical results in Italy
> (considering the lower population) when compared to China, could related to
> the lack of the same faith in traditional medicine (other than garlic). I
> hope these results from China are not overlooked and denigrated by the
> medical profession in the West.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


Re: [Vo]:NIH-Antivirus compound via L-Lysine and Proline

2020-03-17 Thread Terry Blanton
At least this one has some logic to it:


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8115879/COVID-19-Australian-researchers-CURE-coronavirus.html

On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 4:48 PM Terry Blanton  wrote:

>
> https://www.foxnews.com/tech/coronavirus-cures-and-fake-dietary-supplements-beware-products-on-amazon
>
>


Re: [Vo]:NIH-Antivirus compound via L-Lysine and Proline

2020-03-17 Thread Terry Blanton
https://www.foxnews.com/tech/coronavirus-cures-and-fake-dietary-supplements-beware-products-on-amazon


Re: [Vo]:NIH-Antivirus compound via L-Lysine and Proline

2020-03-17 Thread Jonathan Berry
Another apparent solution I stumbled across (it was shared to me by a FB,
but I uploaded it to YT):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgN-yhxNkT4

Basically hot air as found in a hot desert, a Sauna for about 20 mins
should kill the virus.

On Wed, 18 Mar 2020 at 08:14, Jonathan Berry  wrote:

> Another possible contender...
>
> Here’s a promising candidate herb that prevents malaria and tuberculosis
>
> In the world of natural medicine, there are already powerful, well-known
> treatments against malaria that also happen to prevent tuberculosis, an
> aggressive infection of the respiratory tract. While nothing is yet proven
> to treat coronavirus, our review of herbal medicine studies and medicinal
> phytochemicals leads us to the conclusion that this Chinese Medicine herb
> may one day become known as the “natural cure” for coronavirus (although
> clinical trials are needed, obviously, to prove this).
>
> The chemical is called *artemesinin*, and the herb is known as *sweet
> wormwood*. And no, we don’t sell it. This isn’t a commercial promotion,
> it’s an effort to help save millions of lives using medicine that’s
> available right now, all around the world.
>
> Artemesinin is known for its ability to block the bacterial strain that
> causes tuberculosis, known as *Mycobacterium tuberculosis*. That doesn’t
> mean it prevents coronavirus, which is a viral infection, but it’s a strong
> candidate for a number of logical reasons.
>
> According to research published in the journal *Phytomedicine*,
> artemisinin / sweet wormwood has a “100% cure rate” for treating
> drug-resistant malaria, at least in a small trial involving 18 patients
> (all of whom were cured). As Herbs.news writes in this important story
> 
> :
>
> *A study led by Pamela Weathers, a professor of biology and biotechnology
> at the Worcester Polytechnic Institute (WPI), published in the journal
> Phytomedicine, describes how the Artemisia annua plant, commonly known as
> sweet wormwood or sweet annie, saved 18 patients with drug-resistant
> malaria from the brink of death.*
>
> *The Congolese patients, who ranged in age from 14 months to 60 years, had
> all developed severe, untreatable malaria, with symptoms ranging from loss
> of consciousness, to trouble breathing and convulsions, among others. When
> they failed to respond to intravenous treatment with an ACT, compassionate
> doctors decided to try the dried leaves of the Artemisia annua plant as a
> last resort. After only five days of the treatment, all 18 patients were
> fully recovered, including one child who had been in a coma. Blood tests
> revealed that absolutely no parasites remained in their blood.*
>
> That study was published in *Phytomedicine*, and the full study is
> available at this link on ScienceDirect.com.
>  The
> title of the study is, “Artemisia annua dried leaf tablets treated malaria
> resistant to ACT and i.v. artesunate: Case reports.”
>
> There’s even more scientific evidence to back this up. Natural News
> covered another story about sweet wormwood herb in 2017, entitled, “Chinese
> medicine herb discovered to prevent tuberculosis infections
> .”
> The story cites a study published in *Nature Chemical Biology*
>  in 2011.
>
> Here’s part of that story:
> Chinese medicine herb discovered to prevent tuberculosis infections
>
> A recent study reveals that artemisinin, a compound found in sweet
> wormwood, shows potential in tuberculosis treatment. This Chinese herbal
> medicine is previously known for its efficacy in treating malaria.
> Researchers at the Michigan State University have discovered that the
> compound prevents Mycobacterium tuberculosis, a tuberculosis-causing
> bacteria, from becoming dormant. Dormancy was associated with antibiotic
> resistance in patients.
>
> Lead researcher Dr. Robert Abramovitch explains that dormant bacteria
> become highly tolerant to antibiotic therapy. Inhibiting dormancy makes the
> tuberculosis bacteria more susceptible to drug treatments and shortens
> treatment duration.  To test this, researchers engineered a tuberculosis
> strain that glows bright green upon the onset of dormancy. A vast number of
> compounds were then assessed to see if they could prevent the bacteria from
> becoming dormant.
>
> According to the researchers, Mycobacterium tuberculosis or Mtb requires
> oxygen to thrive. Artemisinin is shown to inhibit the molecule called heme
> found in the bacterium’s oxygen sensor, which in turn disrupts the Mtb from
> sensing its deteriorating oxygen levels. “When the Mtb is starved of
> oxygen, it goes into a dormant state, which protects it from the stress of
> low-oxygen environments. If Mtb can’t 

Re: [Vo]:NIH-Antivirus compound via L-Lysine and Proline

2020-03-17 Thread Jonathan Berry
Another possible contender...

Here’s a promising candidate herb that prevents malaria and tuberculosis

In the world of natural medicine, there are already powerful, well-known
treatments against malaria that also happen to prevent tuberculosis, an
aggressive infection of the respiratory tract. While nothing is yet proven
to treat coronavirus, our review of herbal medicine studies and medicinal
phytochemicals leads us to the conclusion that this Chinese Medicine herb
may one day become known as the “natural cure” for coronavirus (although
clinical trials are needed, obviously, to prove this).

The chemical is called *artemesinin*, and the herb is known as *sweet
wormwood*. And no, we don’t sell it. This isn’t a commercial promotion,
it’s an effort to help save millions of lives using medicine that’s
available right now, all around the world.

Artemesinin is known for its ability to block the bacterial strain that
causes tuberculosis, known as *Mycobacterium tuberculosis*. That doesn’t
mean it prevents coronavirus, which is a viral infection, but it’s a strong
candidate for a number of logical reasons.

According to research published in the journal *Phytomedicine*, artemisinin
/ sweet wormwood has a “100% cure rate” for treating drug-resistant
malaria, at least in a small trial involving 18 patients (all of whom were
cured). As Herbs.news writes in this important story

:

*A study led by Pamela Weathers, a professor of biology and biotechnology
at the Worcester Polytechnic Institute (WPI), published in the journal
Phytomedicine, describes how the Artemisia annua plant, commonly known as
sweet wormwood or sweet annie, saved 18 patients with drug-resistant
malaria from the brink of death.*

*The Congolese patients, who ranged in age from 14 months to 60 years, had
all developed severe, untreatable malaria, with symptoms ranging from loss
of consciousness, to trouble breathing and convulsions, among others. When
they failed to respond to intravenous treatment with an ACT, compassionate
doctors decided to try the dried leaves of the Artemisia annua plant as a
last resort. After only five days of the treatment, all 18 patients were
fully recovered, including one child who had been in a coma. Blood tests
revealed that absolutely no parasites remained in their blood.*

That study was published in *Phytomedicine*, and the full study is
available at this link on ScienceDirect.com.
 The
title of the study is, “Artemisia annua dried leaf tablets treated malaria
resistant to ACT and i.v. artesunate: Case reports.”

There’s even more scientific evidence to back this up. Natural News covered
another story about sweet wormwood herb in 2017, entitled, “Chinese
medicine herb discovered to prevent tuberculosis infections
.”
The story cites a study published in *Nature Chemical Biology*
 in 2011.

Here’s part of that story:
Chinese medicine herb discovered to prevent tuberculosis infections

A recent study reveals that artemisinin, a compound found in sweet
wormwood, shows potential in tuberculosis treatment. This Chinese herbal
medicine is previously known for its efficacy in treating malaria.
Researchers at the Michigan State University have discovered that the
compound prevents Mycobacterium tuberculosis, a tuberculosis-causing
bacteria, from becoming dormant. Dormancy was associated with antibiotic
resistance in patients.

Lead researcher Dr. Robert Abramovitch explains that dormant bacteria
become highly tolerant to antibiotic therapy. Inhibiting dormancy makes the
tuberculosis bacteria more susceptible to drug treatments and shortens
treatment duration.  To test this, researchers engineered a tuberculosis
strain that glows bright green upon the onset of dormancy. A vast number of
compounds were then assessed to see if they could prevent the bacteria from
becoming dormant.

According to the researchers, Mycobacterium tuberculosis or Mtb requires
oxygen to thrive. Artemisinin is shown to inhibit the molecule called heme
found in the bacterium’s oxygen sensor, which in turn disrupts the Mtb from
sensing its deteriorating oxygen levels. “When the Mtb is starved of
oxygen, it goes into a dormant state, which protects it from the stress of
low-oxygen environments. If Mtb can’t sense low oxygen, then it can’t
become dormant and will die,” Dr. Abramovitch says. The researchers have
also identified five other compounds that may potentially replicate a
similar effect on the bacterium.

A 2011 study also supports artemisinin’s anti-tuberculosis potential.
Researchers said using the compound as a conjugation factor induces a
selective antagonistic effect against multi- and extensively drug-resistant
strains of Mtb. The 

Re: [Vo]:NIH-Antivirus compound via L-Lysine and Proline

2020-03-17 Thread Jones Beene
 Ron Kita wrote: 
 
 Greetings Vortex members,
Below is from the NIH PubMed- 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19276537  

---
As a practical matter of going to the next level - here is a supplement from 
Amazon which is recommended as a broad range anti-viral and is similar to the 
above.

https://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Health-Tablets-Support-Supplement/dp/B001CMZB4U/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2JQIWSOOXQR7I=lysine+quantum+health=1584468769=lysine+quantum%2Caps%2C243=8-1
Curiously - the Wuhan medical reports on effective treatments in hospitals (and 
given there is no cure) - which were collected and evaluated from papers in the 
last two weeks, indicate that "traditional medicine" (herbal concoctions) 
provide a significantly higher survival rate than was expected - and a key 
ingredient in the ones which were tested appears to be licorice - which has 
been used for 5000 years in traditional medicine. The tablets above contain a 
small amount of licorice.
At a few cents per tablet - there is little downside risk to taking these even 
with no symptoms. The risk of doing nothing is high and let's face it - China 
has indeed made a startling turn-around in controlling the spread. Everyone 
though it would be much worse there than it has turned out to be and a part of 
that success could be overlooked by Big-Pharma here. They simple cannot profit 
when the competition is natural.

The difference between the poorer statistical results in Italy (considering the 
lower population) when compared to China, could related to the lack of the same 
faith in traditional medicine (other than garlic). I hope these results from 
China are not overlooked and denigrated by the medical profession in the West.







  

[Vo]:NIH-Antivirus compound via L-Lysine and Proline

2020-03-17 Thread Ron Kita
Greetings Vortex members,

Below is from the NIH PubMed- US NAtional Health Library-as stated in the
website header.  I am trying to get researchers to have a look and pass it
on IF possible.  Respectfully, Ron Kita, Chiralex G-Modificion US8901943
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19276537