[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:global warming?

2014-08-24 Thread hohlr...@gmail.com
Actually that was a plot in a movie.


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From: "CB Sites" 
To: "vortex-l" 
Subject: [Vo]:global warming?
Date: Sun, Aug 24, 2014 2:49 PM

I've wondered if the Oil industry isn't just trying to stall other forms of 
energy until the inventory of Oil is used up.   This is also a race against 
mankind's interests in reducing greenhouse gasses.  This is a rough estimate, 
but there are only about 40 years left of oil.  Here are the calculations;

Total world oil reservers is ~1,35 Trillion Barrels.  Average daily oil 
consumption is estimated at ~85.6 million barrels/day.  1350GB / 0.0856GB/day = 
15771 days of oil left.  15771 / 356 days/year = 44 years of oil left.  +/- a 
couple of years.


In addition, this is the approximate CO2 produced by that oil to be added on to 
the 400ppm we already have;
3.15 barrels produces 1.0 tonne of CO2. So in 44 years, we will have dumped 

1350GB/3.15 TCo2/B = 428,571,428,571 TonsCO2 (429 GTons CO2).  

Every 15 GT CO2 will rise CO2 by 1.0ppm.  50ppm will rise global temps by 1C.  
429/15=28.6ppm or ~0.6C gain from now

until oil is used up in 40 years or so.

Similar calculations on coal will yield a 1.30C change in the same time period, 
and combined with oil it give 1.58C global average temp change in 40 years.  
Coal us in the developing countries has increased exponentially so this really 
could be an underestimate.  If there is a 2C rise in global average 
temperatures occurs by 2050, (in line with these estimates), 4C by 2100 is very 
likely and if coal use is accelerating, a 6C change is really likely.


Sadly for mankind, the corporate world is more than happy to do the waiting 
game and continue to gather huge profits from stone age polluting technologies 
for years to come.

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On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Jones Beene  wrote:
















From:
Terry Blanton 




 









But, have you considered how much cheaper it will be
to pump oil from the ground using a LENR source?  :-) 

 


Actually that is not
sarcasm. It is likely that a prime early use of LENR will to extend the 
productive
life of oilfields by a large factor. The USA has a sunk-cost infrastructure of
150,000,000 working vehicles, and the supply system for fuel delivery, so the
economics of using LENR to leverage multi-trillion dollar legacy is a
no-brainer. That is accomplished by bringing up deeper oil, and is actually a 
stronger
incentive, economically - than using LENR as an alternative to the ICE… EVEN
when the new technology lowers the value of the deeper oil! …at least for most 
consumers
in the near term. Green activists do not want to believe this, but it is
obvious to realists and most economists – nothing is more compelling
economically than extending the lifetime of a sunk cost.

 

In terms of geology, it appears
now that most if not all of the mega oil fields are sitting on top of deeper
shale which was in fact - the original source of the now depleted lighter oils.
That is the real lesson of the Bakken and fracking. 

 

This is why Texas has and
will continued to lead in oil production – even after most of the shallow wells
are depleted. There could 10 times more oil than realized if and when it can be
pumped up from 2 miles. This will leverage the energy of LENR in a non-green
way, but follow the buck… it will happen and politics will not likely change 
that.


 

Look for Texas oil money to
try to put their man in the White House next go around… even if he is a Canuck J


 














 



















 

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:global warming?

2014-08-24 Thread hohlr...@gmail.com
So, when did the a stop gathering horse biscuits in NYC?   :-)



Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:global warming?

2014-08-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
hohlr...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Yes, but you are talking about the endgame. If we started making LENR
> gensets today, we'll still pump oil for decades.
>

One or two decades, but at the end of that time the industry will be in
catastrophic decline. To get a sense of how it is likely to work out, look
at U.S. railroad passenger traffic after the introduction of the Model T
Ford in 1908. By 1932 the railroads and especially their pension system had
to be rescued by Congress, and that was not just from the effects of the
Depression. Or, look at the decline of North Atlantic ocean liner
transportation after 1945, after the introduction of airplane service. By
1955 ocean liner service was dead.

The actual final demise of an industry may come decades after a
catastrophic decline. The last U.S. telegram was sent in 2006. However,
telegrams ceased to play any role in the economy by 1960. They were doomed
after the introduction of direct dial long distance telephone service in
1951, which was reasonably cheap compared to previous long distance
service. In other words, there may be some oil pumped out of the ground 100
years from now, but the amounts will trivial compared to today. It will
only be used because for some odd reason such as a large plastic production
factory happens to be located on top of an oil field.

You sometimes find old factories and a long obsolete machine still in use.
Here is a well-known example. A company in Texas uses a 1948 punch card
machine:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/249951/if_it_aint_broke_dont_fix_it_ancient_computers_in_use_today.html

- Jed


[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:global warming?

2014-08-24 Thread hohlr...@gmail.com
Yes, but you are talking about the endgame. If we started making LENR gensets 
today, we'll still pump oil for decades.



[Vo]: Re:[VO]: Global warming skepticism alive..

2007-02-07 Thread RC Macaulay

Jed Rothwell wrote..


but that is a political problem, not scientific.


Howdy Jed,

A keen insight you have. Things happen in the world that most attribute to 
conspiracy when they should be blamed on attitude. Given an opportunity, laws 
of human nature demand actions be met with inaction of leadership. Machavelli 
wrote the book on actions and resultants. 
There is actually a relationship between how you described F&P reactions and 
the border agents articles in the below link. It's total absolute incompetence 
of our government at nearly every level, Homeland Defense ( FEMA) being the 
prime example. The simple fact is that leaders in government are incapable of 
planning anything that would work.. good or bad. Whatever happens.. simple 
happens and all the machinery is designed for is to cover tracks. One of the 
largest jobs categories is become.. "spokesperson"

Richard


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