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Is there any way of verifying these purportedly leaked papers? One from the provided link caught my eye. from dgould...@britamdefence.com Phil We've got a new offer. It's about Syria again.Qataris propose an attractive deal and swear that the idea is approved by Washington. We'll have to deliver a CW to Homs, a Soviet origin g-shell from Libya similar to those that Assad should have.They want us to deploy our Ukrainian personnel that should speak Russian and make a video record. Frankly, I don't think it's a good idea but the sums proposed are enormous. Your opinion? Kind regards David David Goulding | Business Development Director Marvic House, Bishops Road, London, SW6 7AD, United Kingdom t :+ 44 (0)20 7610 0111 dl:+44 (0)1522 754 361 m: + 44 (0)7817 981 237 e : dgould...@britamdefence.com | www.britamdefence.com
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Also relevant - From Scientific American today: 'Is It Too Late to Determine Which Chemical Weapons Were Used in Syria? Probably not, but it's better to act sooner than later' http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=too-late-chemical-weapons-syria What sense does it make, then, to delay the UN inspectors? a.ashfield wrote: Is there any way of verifying these purportedly leaked papers? One from the provided link caught my eye. [...]
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What sense indeed? http://rt.com/news/syria-investigate-un-chemical-116/ -Original Message- From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com [mailto:pagnu...@htdconnect.com] Sent: 28 August 2013 20:27 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Syrian gas attacks... Also relevant - From Scientific American today: 'Is It Too Late to Determine Which Chemical Weapons Were Used in Syria? Probably not, but it's better to act sooner than later' http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=too-late-chemical-weapons-s yria What sense does it make, then, to delay the UN inspectors?
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Chemical weapon attack in Syria. There are many problems with the stories put out by various governments.To start with, governments can't be trusted without independent verification.Remember the supposed WMD that Iraq had? The war was started on a religious pretext.The rebels are Sunni, the majority of the population, later joined by al Qaeda, fighting the minority Alawi, Shiite, Christian and others' government. A reverse echo of the minority Sunnis being deposed by the Shiites in Iraq. The country gains nothing except destruction, both sides being equally unpleasant. It is just a matter of fighting for who has power. Consider who gains if America can be persuaded to attack Assad. 1. The Sunni rebels and al Qaeda 2. Israel, who has long lobbied for America to attack Syria. 3. The military industrial complex, who will make millions. Assad is ruthless and rational. He knows if he uses chemical weapons America would probably attack him. So why would he do that? The reported attack could have been be faked, killed far fewer than claimed, could be a false flag operation, could have been a lower ranked military operation without Assad's knowledge or support. If America attacks Syria it will certainly be killing many who had no hand in the attack and will be immediately condemned by the same people now calling for war. Not to mention it would be against international law without UN approval, that the US can't get.Doesn't America boast of being a nation of laws? Unfortunately President Obama has painted himself into a corner.He assumed Assad would not use poison gas. Now unless he gets cast iron proof Assad wasn't responsible, which he won't, he has to attack or be seen as a bluffer and lose credibility. How many lives is credibility worth? It doesn't matter that only 9% in the US are in favor of attacking Syria. Any attack will probably go wrong as they usually do,Then the bloodhounds will be baying for his blood and the situation in the Middle East will certainly become even more desperate. Also certain is that the villains who started the conflict will get away without punishment.
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On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:37 AM, a.ashfield a.ashfi...@verizon.net wrote: Chemical weapon attack in Syria. There are many problems with the stories put out by various governments. To start with, governments can't be trusted without independent verification. Remember the supposed WMD that Iraq had? You are aware of the WMD lie? What are you? Some kind of antiignorist?
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James Bowery, perhaps I was not clear enough. I said you couldn't trust governments, remember the supposed WMD that Iraq had? Of course I know it was a lie. Further, I was pointing out that it looks like the same thing is being repeated, that the decision to bomb SYria has already been taken with similar lack of proof.
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The thing that should be concerning is that a country as powerful as the US (and spends so insanely much on toys for warfare) ever looks for, makes up, provides chemical weapons as pretexts to get into war (which is hardly new). Seriously if we were to think of this as a person it would be a nut who has a house full of guns etc.. and keeps on looking for a fight, trying to set up situations where he can look like he might be the hero as he guns people down or blows them up. And because he spends more on crap to kill people than everyone else combined. I recommend downloading the Britam Defence, but checking I see that page has been taken down. But this one is up: http://stormcloudsgathering.com/leaked-documents-us-framed-syria-in-chemical-weapons-attack Here is an Amazon link to a portion of the leaked documents: http://www.amazon.com/gp/drive/share?ie=UTF8s=G6_SxjA3RnEpXfvn8WZ8Aw Here is the torrent magnet link with 464mb of leaked data: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:6abe339b23e818f21314ea76341b3dcb92dd8838 On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 5:17 AM, a.ashfield a.ashfi...@verizon.net wrote: James Bowery, perhaps I was not clear enough. I said you couldn't trust governments, remember the supposed WMD that Iraq had? Of course I know it was a lie. Further, I was pointing out that it looks like the same thing is being repeated, that the decision to bomb SYria has already been taken with similar lack of proof.
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Google "Operation Northwoods". Original Message Subject: Re: [Vo]:Syrian gas attacks... From: John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com Date: Wed, August 28, 2013 8:24 am To: vortex-l@eskimo.com The thing that should be concerning is that a country as powerful as the US (and spends so insanely much on toys for warfare) ever looks for, makes up, provides chemical weapons as pretexts to get into war(which is hardly new). Seriously if we were to think of this as a person it would be a nut who has a house full of guns etc.. and keeps on looking for a fight, trying to set up situations where he can look like he might be the hero as he guns people down or blows them up. And because he spends more on crap to kill people than everyone else combined.I recommend downloading the Britam Defence, but checking I see that page has been taken down.But this one is up: http://stormcloudsgathering.com/leaked-documents-us-framed-syria-in-chemical-weapons-attackHere is an Amazon link to a portion of the leaked documents: http://www.amazon.com/gp/drive/share?ie=UTF8s=G6_SxjA3RnEpXfvn8WZ8Aw Here is the torrent magnet link with 464mb of leaked data:magnet:?xt=urn:btih:6abe339b23e818f21314ea76341b3dcb92dd8838 On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 5:17 AM, a.ashfield a.ashfi...@verizon.net wrote: James Bowery, perhaps I was not clear enough. I said you couldn't trust governments, remember the supposed WMD that Iraq had? Of course I know it was a lie. Further, I was pointing out that it looks like the same thing is being repeated, that the decision to bomb SYria has already been taken with similar lack of proof.
[Vo]:Syrian gas attacks...
http://stormcloudsgathering.com/leaked-britam-defense-syrian-documents-download This makes a strong case indeed for the attacks being a pretence for war. 464MB of emails and other documents obtained by a hacker from Britam Defense. John
