Re: [Vo]:Important finding for nanomagnetism LENR
Dave-- Regarding questions about hydrogen nucleus tuning--I would say that the H in a strong magnetic field increases its spin energy in steps separated by multiples of spin quanta. I do not know if the increase in energy results in a mass increase or not--it may. The tuning is seen in the decreased wave length of the H wave function. An oscillating magnetic field can cause the H to jump to a energy state associated with the frequency of the magnetic field. I think the field oscillations, if only modulated around an average field strength, can also tune the H to absorb energy in quanta associated with the magnitude of the field. In a solid state the coupling between various spinners and the direction and magnitude of the field complicates the dynamics. I think the data was basically experimentally determined and that good analytical formula were not generally possible for any given system to specify frequencies or energy quanta. Things may have changed since the early 60’s when I was involved. NMR is a pretty refined field now with finely tuned equipment . The general theory my be different. My working feel for magnetic resonance is old. Bob Sent from Windows Mail From: David Roberson Sent: Friday, August 1, 2014 11:17 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Bob, you seem to have a good working knowledge of MRI devices so I have a few questions for you. Does the emission frequency of the hydrogen nucleus become tuned by the level of the external super magnetic field? How much tuning is seen during normal operation and in research? The reason I ask is that it is obvious that the energy levels would be very close together if they can be detected by variation in the RF frequencies emitted. Then one would ask how far upwards in frequency(energy quanta) does this effect translate? And finally, would you expect the spin coupling of this nature to exist at the much higher energy levels that are seen in LENR devices? It is not clear to me yet, perhaps due to some hang up, how far apart the various energy levels due to spin states are in nuclei. What would determine how close together each step would be to its neighbors? Is this a measurement determined quantity or calculated by a really good formula? Dave -Original Message- From: Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, Aug 1, 2014 2:35 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Important finding for nanomagnetism LENR Jones and Axil-- As You may guess, I tend to agree with your considerations regarding spin coupling and magnetic resonances. The intense fields at small dimensions allowed by the nano size structures is an inference that I have long held. Keep up the good discovery work. I wonder if any of the Professors at the University of Strasbourg are in the group trying to determine the theory of Rossi’s TPT? I’m heading to the University of Bologna in 6 weeks and hope to talk with the folks there about their ideas. I will report back asap. Bob Cook Sent from Windows Mail From: Axil Axil Sent: Friday, August 1, 2014 8:21 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com If a magnetic force is produced by an atomic level cause whose dimensions are nanoscale, and the intensity of the magnetic force at 20 cm is 1 tesla. By the cube law relationship, the intensity of the magnetic source as produced on the nanoscale can be reckoned as 2*10^^8 cubed or something like 8*10^^24 tesla. On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: http://phys.org/news/2014-07-tiny-magnets-huge-fields-nanoscale.html#nwlt Doudin et al - at University of Strasbourg propose that nano ferromagnetic electrodes can create powerful localized force fields which are tuned by an external magnetic field. Localized field is a key. Inverse square power laws can make a large difference. Their finding can be understood as similar to a precondition for nanomagnetism in LENR. Of course, this paper is ostensibly not related to LENR, so it would also be a mistake to try to read too much into it. One must first understand the nuances of superparamagnetism, as the gateway to spin-coupling in LENR... then this cross-connection can become apparent. The authors construct nanonickel electrodes in a solution containing paramagnetic molecules and control the electrode's magnetization direction with an external magnetic field. In so doing, they created a conductive molecular-sized switching system which is the chemical equivalent of a spintronics spin valve. Spin coupling is implied. In LENR this molecular level switching would occur at Terahertz blackbody rate of the thermal system, and would act as a pump for extracting spin energy from protons, nickel atoms, or both (as magnons) - which show up as thermal gain in a system where superparamagnetism and superferromagnetism compete with each other. Magnon is another
Re: [Vo]:Important finding for nanomagnetism LENR
Bob, I am asking these questions in an attempt to determine the quantum step energy levels associated with spin coupling. Of course there may be a limiting frequency above which the same coupling no longer applies and that would negate my attempt to stretch the effect. If the quantum steps at UV and low X-Ray frequencies were as small as those apparently seen at RF, then I could justify my thoughts about magnetic spin coupling for LENR energy release. Would one consider it possible for the spin resonate frequency to be scaled up directly as the local magnetic field increases? If true, then some of the ideas being floated around about extreme magnetic fields associated with nano sized resonators might offer a solution. Is LENR the big brother of MRI? Dave -Original Message- From: Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, Aug 3, 2014 3:08 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Important finding for nanomagnetism LENR Dave-- Regarding questions about hydrogen nucleus tuning--I would say that the H in a strong magnetic field increases its spin energy in steps separated by multiples of spin quanta. I do not know if the increase in energy results in a mass increase or not--it may. The tuning is seen in the decreased wave length of the H wave function. An oscillating magnetic field can cause the H to jump to a energy state associated with the frequency of the magnetic field. I think the field oscillations, if only modulated around an average field strength, can also tune the H to absorb energy in quanta associated with the magnitude of the field. In a solid state the coupling between various spinners and the direction and magnitude of the field complicates the dynamics. I think the data was basically experimentally determined and that good analytical formula were not generally possible for any given system to specify frequencies or energy quanta. Things may have changed since the early 60’s when I was involved. NMR is a pretty refined field now with finely tuned equipment . The general theory my be different. My working feel for magnetic resonance is old. Bob Sent from Windows Mail From: David Roberson Sent: Friday, August 1, 2014 11:17 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Bob, you seem to have a good working knowledge of MRI devices so I have a few questions for you. Does the emission frequency of the hydrogen nucleus become tuned by the level of the external super magnetic field? How much tuning is seen during normal operation and in research? The reason I ask is that it is obvious that the energy levels would be very close together if they can be detected by variation in the RF frequencies emitted. Then one would ask how far upwards in frequency(energy quanta) does this effect translate? And finally, would you expect the spin coupling of this nature to exist at the much higher energy levels that are seen in LENR devices? It is not clear to me yet, perhaps due to some hang up, how far apart the various energy levels due to spin states are in nuclei. What would determine how close together each step would be to its neighbors? Is this a measurement determined quantity or calculated by a really good formula? Dave -Original Message- From: Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, Aug 1, 2014 2:35 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Important finding for nanomagnetism LENR Jones and Axil-- As You may guess, I tend to agree with your considerations regarding spin coupling and magnetic resonances. The intense fields at small dimensions allowed by the nano size structures is an inference that I have long held. Keep up the good discovery work. I wonder if any of the Professors at the University of Strasbourg are in the group trying to determine the theory of Rossi’s TPT? I’m heading to the University of Bologna in 6 weeks and hope to talk with the folks there about their ideas. I will report back asap. Bob Cook Sent from Windows Mail From: Axil Axil Sent: Friday, August 1, 2014 8:21 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com If a magnetic force is produced by an atomic levelcause whose dimensions are nanoscale, and the intensity of the magnetic force at20 cm is 1 tesla. By the cube law relationship, the intensity of the magneticsource as produced on the nanoscale can be reckoned as 2*10^^8 cubed or somethinglike 8*10^^24 tesla. On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: http://phys.org/news/2014-07-tiny-magnets-huge-fields-nanoscale.html#nwlt Doudin et al - at University of Strasbourg propose that nano ferromagnetic electrodes can create powerful localized force fields which are tuned by an external magnetic field. Localized field is a key. Inverse square power laws can make a large difference. Their finding can be understood as similar to a precondition for nanomagnetism in LENR
Re: [Vo]:Important finding for nanomagnetism LENR
On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 2:29 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: I am asking these questions in an attempt to determine the quantum step energy levels associated with spin coupling. When I think of nuclear spin coupling, I think of a nucleus with different energy levels. Each level has a unique set of quantum numbers, including an angular momentum and a parity. There is a ground state, e.g., an angular momentum of 0 and a parity of +. Sometimes the ground state has an angular momentum different than 0+, e.g., 2+ or 1/2-. When the nucleus is excited to a different energy level, it's like pumping water up into a cistern. The water now has potential energy which, if a valve is opened, will be transformed into the kinetic energy of the water flowing downhill. The energy of the different nuclear excited states is often in the range of keV to MeV. So you can excite a nucleus to a higher energy level, and when it relaxes (often quite quickly, but sometimes it takes a bit of time), and a photon with energy equal to the difference in levels will be emitted -- e.g., a 193 keV gamma photon or a 1.7 MeV gamma photon. The transition, and therefore the photon energy, may not be directly to ground, and there may be a cascade of transitions as the nucleus relaxes. In this understanding, there is a transition from kinetic to potential energy and then from potential energy back to kinetic energy again, as the nucleus accepts energy (transitions to an excited state) and then emits it again (relaxes). Each transition will have its own half-life, but the half-lives are typically extremely short. In my limited understanding, in order for some kind of spin coupling to work as a means of fractionating the energy of a large gamma transition in a nearby compound nucleus following upon a fusion, I think the observer nucleus would need to relax only via transitions that are not far apart from one another, e.g., in the keV range rather than MeV range, in order to be consistent with the lack of gammas seen in LENR experiments. Sometimes a nucleus will have a large number of energy levels that are very close to one another, and in the relaxing of the excited state, there will be a series of photons emitted which do not go directly to ground. But all of this seems to leave a lot to chance, because a non-negligible portion of the time the nucleus will transition directly to ground, and thereby re-emitting a large photon. Sometimes a transition to ground will be forbidden; this is a detail that will depend upon the specific isotope, e.g., of nickel. Eric
RE: [Vo]:Important finding for nanomagnetism LENR
From: David Roberson I am asking these questions in an attempt to determine the quantum step energy levels associated with spin coupling. There seems to be cross-connection to the Mossbauer effect and some of the resonance levels may be the same. Nickel has Mossbauer isotopes. Here is a paper which helped me (mini-course) http://www.irm.umn.edu/Misc/Murad_MossbauerIRM08.doc Mossbauer, Larmor, NMR, fractional orbitals and superparamagnetism all seem to intersect with the Ni-H version of LENR in a way that is not easy to explain.
Re: [Vo]:Important finding for nanomagnetism LENR
If a magnetic force is produced by an atomic level cause whose dimensions are nanoscale, and the intensity of the magnetic force at 20 cm is 1 tesla. By the cube law relationship, the intensity of the magnetic source as produced on the nanoscale can be reckoned as 2*10^^8 cubed or something like 8*10^^24 tesla. On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: http://phys.org/news/2014-07-tiny-magnets-huge-fields-nanoscale.html#nwlt Doudin et al - at University of Strasbourg propose that nano ferromagnetic electrodes can create powerful localized force fields which are tuned by an external magnetic field. Localized field is a key. Inverse square power laws can make a large difference. Their finding can be understood as similar to a precondition for nanomagnetism in LENR. Of course, this paper is ostensibly not related to LENR, so it would also be a mistake to try to read too much into it. One must first understand the nuances of superparamagnetism, as the gateway to spin-coupling in LENR... then this cross-connection can become apparent. The authors construct nanonickel electrodes in a solution containing paramagnetic molecules and control the electrode's magnetization direction with an external magnetic field. In so doing, they created a conductive molecular-sized switching system which is the chemical equivalent of a spintronics spin valve. Spin coupling is implied. In LENR this molecular level switching would occur at Terahertz blackbody rate of the thermal system, and would act as a pump for extracting spin energy from protons, nickel atoms, or both (as magnons) - which show up as thermal gain in a system where superparamagnetism and superferromagnetism compete with each other. Magnon is another key concept for LENR. The high level of spin coupling to magnons is possible as a direct result of competition between superparamagnetic and superferromagnetic particles in motion, and in phase change - as well as a dynamical Casimir effect at the same geometry. Moving from a geometry defined by micron dimensions to nano, when magnetism is involved, brings with it the potential for gains of 1000^2. That, in a nutshell, is what nanomagnetism is all about. Jones And ... for the benefit of the growing spin-coupling nanomagnetism cadre on vortex, consider inverse cube as it relates to the Biot-Savart Law for magnetism. The parameters for change from square to cube favor the smaller dimensions. The Biot-Savart Law has a cubic power law denominator and ostensibly gives an inverse cube dependence for magnetism in those scenarios. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biot%E2%80%93Savart_law
Re: [Vo]:Important finding for nanomagnetism LENR
Jones and Axil-- As You may guess, I tend to agree with your considerations regarding spin coupling and magnetic resonances. The intense fields at small dimensions allowed by the nano size structures is an inference that I have long held. Keep up the good discovery work. I wonder if any of the Professors at the University of Strasbourg are in the group trying to determine the theory of Rossi’s TPT? I’m heading to the University of Bologna in 6 weeks and hope to talk with the folks there about their ideas. I will report back asap. Bob Cook Sent from Windows Mail From: Axil Axil Sent: Friday, August 1, 2014 8:21 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com If a magnetic force is produced by an atomic level cause whose dimensions are nanoscale, and the intensity of the magnetic force at 20 cm is 1 tesla. By the cube law relationship, the intensity of the magnetic source as produced on the nanoscale can be reckoned as 2*10^^8 cubed or something like 8*10^^24 tesla. On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: http://phys.org/news/2014-07-tiny-magnets-huge-fields-nanoscale.html#nwlt Doudin et al - at University of Strasbourg propose that nano ferromagnetic electrodes can create powerful localized force fields which are tuned by an external magnetic field. Localized field is a key. Inverse square power laws can make a large difference. Their finding can be understood as similar to a precondition for nanomagnetism in LENR. Of course, this paper is ostensibly not related to LENR, so it would also be a mistake to try to read too much into it. One must first understand the nuances of superparamagnetism, as the gateway to spin-coupling in LENR... then this cross-connection can become apparent. The authors construct nanonickel electrodes in a solution containing paramagnetic molecules and control the electrode's magnetization direction with an external magnetic field. In so doing, they created a conductive molecular-sized switching system which is the chemical equivalent of a spintronics spin valve. Spin coupling is implied. In LENR this molecular level switching would occur at Terahertz blackbody rate of the thermal system, and would act as a pump for extracting spin energy from protons, nickel atoms, or both (as magnons) - which show up as thermal gain in a system where superparamagnetism and superferromagnetism compete with each other. Magnon is another key concept for LENR. The high level of spin coupling to magnons is possible as a direct result of competition between superparamagnetic and superferromagnetic particles in motion, and in phase change - as well as a dynamical Casimir effect at the same geometry. Moving from a geometry defined by micron dimensions to nano, when magnetism is involved, brings with it the potential for gains of 1000^2. That, in a nutshell, is what nanomagnetism is all about. Jones And ... for the benefit of the growing spin-coupling nanomagnetism cadre on vortex, consider inverse cube as it relates to the Biot-Savart Law for magnetism. The parameters for change from square to cube favor the smaller dimensions. The Biot-Savart Law has a cubic power law denominator and ostensibly gives an inverse cube dependence for magnetism in those scenarios. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biot%E2%80%93Savart_law
Re: [Vo]:Important finding for nanomagnetism LENR
The Biot-Savart Law is a square law effect. You will see a cubic law drop off for a bipolar configuration such as a bar magnet once you become removed from the nearby pole. The field drop off rate due to a tiny differential current element alone is second order. Dave -Original Message- From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, Aug 1, 2014 11:37 am Subject: [Vo]:Important finding for nanomagnetism LENR http://phys.org/news/2014-07-tiny-magnets-huge-fields-nanoscale.html#nwlt Doudin et al - at University of Strasbourg propose that nano ferromagnetic electrodes can create powerful localized force fields which are tuned by an external magnetic field. Localized field is a key. Inverse square power laws can make a large difference. Their finding can be understood as similar to a precondition for nanomagnetism in LENR. Of course, this paper is ostensibly not related to LENR, so it would also be a mistake to try to read too much into it. One must first understand the nuances of superparamagnetism, as the gateway to spin-coupling in LENR... then this cross-connection can become apparent. The authors construct nanonickel electrodes in a solution containing paramagnetic molecules and control the electrode's magnetization direction with an external magnetic field. In so doing, they created a conductive molecular-sized switching system which is the chemical equivalent of a spintronics spin valve. Spin coupling is implied. In LENR this molecular level switching would occur at Terahertz blackbody rate of the thermal system, and would act as a pump for extracting spin energy from protons, nickel atoms, or both (as magnons) - which show up as thermal gain in a system where superparamagnetism and superferromagnetism compete with each other. Magnon is another key concept for LENR. The high level of spin coupling to magnons is possible as a direct result of competition between superparamagnetic and superferromagnetic particles in motion, and in phase change - as well as a dynamical Casimir effect at the same geometry. Moving from a geometry defined by micron dimensions to nano, when magnetism is involved, brings with it the potential for gains of 1000^2. That, in a nutshell, is what nanomagnetism is all about. Jones And ... for the benefit of the growing spin-coupling nanomagnetism cadre on vortex, consider inverse cube as it relates to the Biot-Savart Law for magnetism. The parameters for change from square to cube favor the smaller dimensions. The Biot-Savart Law has a cubic power law denominator and ostensibly gives an inverse cube dependence for magnetism in those scenarios. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biot%E2%80%93Savart_law
Re: [Vo]:Important finding for nanomagnetism LENR
Axil, you are assuming that the source is a tiny point. The true dimensions are much larger since superposition of many tiny sources contributes to the measurement. Dave -Original Message- From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, Aug 1, 2014 12:21 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Important finding for nanomagnetism LENR If a magnetic force is produced by an atomic levelcause whose dimensions are nanoscale, and the intensity of the magnetic force at20 cm is 1 tesla. By the cube law relationship, the intensity of the magneticsource as produced on the nanoscale can be reckoned as 2*10^^8 cubed or somethinglike 8*10^^24 tesla. On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: http://phys.org/news/2014-07-tiny-magnets-huge-fields-nanoscale.html#nwlt Doudin et al - at University of Strasbourg propose that nano ferromagnetic electrodes can create powerful localized force fields which are tuned by an external magnetic field. Localized field is a key. Inverse square power laws can make a large difference. Their finding can be understood as similar to a precondition for nanomagnetism in LENR. Of course, this paper is ostensibly not related to LENR, so it would also be a mistake to try to read too much into it. One must first understand the nuances of superparamagnetism, as the gateway to spin-coupling in LENR... then this cross-connection can become apparent. The authors construct nanonickel electrodes in a solution containing paramagnetic molecules and control the electrode's magnetization direction with an external magnetic field. In so doing, they created a conductive molecular-sized switching system which is the chemical equivalent of a spintronics spin valve. Spin coupling is implied. In LENR this molecular level switching would occur at Terahertz blackbody rate of the thermal system, and would act as a pump for extracting spin energy from protons, nickel atoms, or both (as magnons) - which show up as thermal gain in a system where superparamagnetism and superferromagnetism compete with each other. Magnon is another key concept for LENR. The high level of spin coupling to magnons is possible as a direct result of competition between superparamagnetic and superferromagnetic particles in motion, and in phase change - as well as a dynamical Casimir effect at the same geometry. Moving from a geometry defined by micron dimensions to nano, when magnetism is involved, brings with it the potential for gains of 1000^2. That, in a nutshell, is what nanomagnetism is all about. Jones And ... for the benefit of the growing spin-coupling nanomagnetism cadre on vortex, consider inverse cube as it relates to the Biot-Savart Law for magnetism. The parameters for change from square to cube favor the smaller dimensions. The Biot-Savart Law has a cubic power law denominator and ostensibly gives an inverse cube dependence for magnetism in those scenarios. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biot%E2%80%93Savart_law
Re: [Vo]:Important finding for nanomagnetism LENR
Bob, you seem to have a good working knowledge of MRI devices so I have a few questions for you. Does the emission frequency of the hydrogen nucleus become tuned by the level of the external super magnetic field? How much tuning is seen during normal operation and in research? The reason I ask is that it is obvious that the energy levels would be very close together if they can be detected by variation in the RF frequencies emitted. Then one would ask how far upwards in frequency(energy quanta) does this effect translate? And finally, would you expect the spin coupling of this nature to exist at the much higher energy levels that are seen in LENR devices? It is not clear to me yet, perhaps due to some hang up, how far apart the various energy levels due to spin states are in nuclei. What would determine how close together each step would be to its neighbors? Is this a measurement determined quantity or calculated by a really good formula? Dave -Original Message- From: Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, Aug 1, 2014 2:35 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Important finding for nanomagnetism LENR Jones and Axil-- As You may guess, I tend to agree with your considerations regarding spin coupling and magnetic resonances. The intense fields at small dimensions allowed by the nano size structures is an inference that I have long held. Keep up the good discovery work. I wonder if any of the Professors at the University of Strasbourg are in the group trying to determine the theory of Rossi’s TPT? I’m heading to the University of Bologna in 6 weeks and hope to talk with the folks there about their ideas. I will report back asap. Bob Cook Sent from Windows Mail From: Axil Axil Sent: Friday, August 1, 2014 8:21 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com If a magnetic force is produced by an atomic levelcause whose dimensions are nanoscale, and the intensity of the magnetic force at20 cm is 1 tesla. By the cube law relationship, the intensity of the magneticsource as produced on the nanoscale can be reckoned as 2*10^^8 cubed or somethinglike 8*10^^24 tesla. On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: http://phys.org/news/2014-07-tiny-magnets-huge-fields-nanoscale.html#nwlt Doudin et al - at University of Strasbourg propose that nano ferromagnetic electrodes can create powerful localized force fields which are tuned by an external magnetic field. Localized field is a key. Inverse square power laws can make a large difference. Their finding can be understood as similar to a precondition for nanomagnetism in LENR. Of course, this paper is ostensibly not related to LENR, so it would also be a mistake to try to read too much into it. One must first understand the nuances of superparamagnetism, as the gateway to spin-coupling in LENR... then this cross-connection can become apparent. The authors construct nanonickel electrodes in a solution containing paramagnetic molecules and control the electrode's magnetization direction with an external magnetic field. In so doing, they created a conductive molecular-sized switching system which is the chemical equivalent of a spintronics spin valve. Spin coupling is implied. In LENR this molecular level switching would occur at Terahertz blackbody rate of the thermal system, and would act as a pump for extracting spin energy from protons, nickel atoms, or both (as magnons) - which show up as thermal gain in a system where superparamagnetism and superferromagnetism compete with each other. Magnon is another key concept for LENR. The high level of spin coupling to magnons is possible as a direct result of competition between superparamagnetic and superferromagnetic particles in motion, and in phase change - as well as a dynamical Casimir effect at the same geometry. Moving from a geometry defined by micron dimensions to nano, when magnetism is involved, brings with it the potential for gains of 1000^2. That, in a nutshell, is what nanomagnetism is all about. Jones And ... for the benefit of the growing spin-coupling nanomagnetism cadre on vortex, consider inverse cube as it relates to the Biot-Savart Law for magnetism. The parameters for change from square to cube favor the smaller dimensions. The Biot-Savart Law has a cubic power law denominator and ostensibly gives an inverse cube dependence for magnetism in those scenarios. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biot%E2%80%93Savart_law
Re: [Vo]:Important finding for nanomagnetism LENR
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Interesting article. A quote: Recently, however, scientists at University of Strasbourg, France have proposed that this limitation can be addressed by using miniaturized ferromagnetic electrodes to create powerful localized force fields that can be tuned by an external magnetic field. This reminds me of the Letts and Cravens paper on laser stimulation of deuterated palladium. When they applied an external magnetic field, they got different results. In the context of LENR, I wonder whether there could be a polarization of the nuclear spin states of nuclei within range of the strong magnetic nearfield created by some topological features in the lattice environment. It's not clear what this polarization might do. One possibility is that it could alter the cross-sections for reactions, and it could open up branches that are otherwise forbidden, e.g., when the nuclei are rotating quickly and have unsuitable multipole moments. Eric
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My theory of the reaction assumes the reaction starts in the 5 micron nickel particles at the time before the initiation of plasma formation. This powder is in a confined volume but is comprised of many nano sized sources. So there will be some fuzziness at 20 cms when the initial magnetic field value is ,6 tesla due to the distribution in space of the 5 micron particles. Also, the magnetic strength will be divided by the number of individual sources, say 100,000,000 nanowire sources. The initial's values of the magnetic field at initiation of the plasma pulse is .6 tesla and increases to 1.6 tesla. When the plasma pulse terminates then the far field magnetic value grows to 1.6 tesla. That increase is caused by the formation of dynamic NAE that is produced in the nanoparticles aggregations that are formed by the condensation of the cooling plasma produced by the just terminated plasma pulse. This dynamic NAE source is spread out widely through the hydrogen envelope. On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:58 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Axil, you are assuming that the source is a tiny point. The true dimensions are much larger since superposition of many tiny sources contributes to the measurement. Dave -Original Message- From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, Aug 1, 2014 12:21 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Important finding for nanomagnetism LENR If a magnetic force is produced by an atomic level cause whose dimensions are nanoscale, and the intensity of the magnetic force at 20 cm is 1 tesla. By the cube law relationship, the intensity of the magnetic source as produced on the nanoscale can be reckoned as 2*10^^8 cubed or something like 8*10^^24 tesla. On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: http://phys.org/news/2014-07-tiny-magnets-huge-fields-nanoscale.html#nwlt Doudin et al - at University of Strasbourg propose that nano ferromagnetic electrodes can create powerful localized force fields which are tuned by an external magnetic field. Localized field is a key. Inverse square power laws can make a large difference. Their finding can be understood as similar to a precondition for nanomagnetism in LENR. Of course, this paper is ostensibly not related to LENR, so it would also be a mistake to try to read too much into it. One must first understand the nuances of superparamagnetism, as the gateway to spin-coupling in LENR... then this cross-connection can become apparent. The authors construct nanonickel electrodes in a solution containing paramagnetic molecules and control the electrode's magnetization direction with an external magnetic field. In so doing, they created a conductive molecular-sized switching system which is the chemical equivalent of a spintronics spin valve. Spin coupling is implied. In LENR this molecular level switching would occur at Terahertz blackbody rate of the thermal system, and would act as a pump for extracting spin energy from protons, nickel atoms, or both (as magnons) - which show up as thermal gain in a system where superparamagnetism and superferromagnetism compete with each other. Magnon is another key concept for LENR. The high level of spin coupling to magnons is possible as a direct result of competition between superparamagnetic and superferromagnetic particles in motion, and in phase change - as well as a dynamical Casimir effect at the same geometry. Moving from a geometry defined by micron dimensions to nano, when magnetism is involved, brings with it the potential for gains of 1000^2. That, in a nutshell, is what nanomagnetism is all about. Jones And ... for the benefit of the growing spin-coupling nanomagnetism cadre on vortex, consider inverse cube as it relates to the Biot-Savart Law for magnetism. The parameters for change from square to cube favor the smaller dimensions. The Biot-Savart Law has a cubic power law denominator and ostensibly gives an inverse cube dependence for magnetism in those scenarios. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biot%E2%80%93Savart_law
Re: [Vo]:Important finding for nanomagnetism LENR
Dave-- My understanding is old and may be off base. However here goes. The magnetic field to which a magnetic dipole moment is subjected becomes degenerate and the quantum spin states separate in energy with the magnetic field strength. The frequency of any given state is associated with the energy of that particular quantum state. The alignment of the spin vector can be along the magnetic field alignment or anti-parallel to it. Perfect alignment does not happen and is a function of temperature. However, as temperature goes down or magnetic field strength increases, the alignment approaches zero declination for the average declination away from perfect alignment. The exact energy states are very large in number for any quantum system given the random orientation of the spin of all the particles making up the system. As the magnetic field changes the energy states must also change for most atoms. The timing of the changes is quite fast and the redistribution of energy is also fast and in small increments. However the larger the magnetic field, the larger the energy increments one would expect. Redistribution of spin energy among atoms of a system would be expected. I also remember that spin can be distributed to electronic structure--orbital, J, as well as electrons,j. The orbital spin results in thermal motion of the lattice and temperature increases. Angular momentum and spin is conserved in any transition--reaction. Bob Sent from Windows Mail From: David Roberson Sent: Friday, August 1, 2014 11:17 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Bob, you seem to have a good working knowledge of MRI devices so I have a few questions for you. Does the emission frequency of the hydrogen nucleus become tuned by the level of the external super magnetic field? How much tuning is seen during normal operation and in research? The reason I ask is that it is obvious that the energy levels would be very close together if they can be detected by variation in the RF frequencies emitted. Then one would ask how far upwards in frequency(energy quanta) does this effect translate? And finally, would you expect the spin coupling of this nature to exist at the much higher energy levels that are seen in LENR devices? It is not clear to me yet, perhaps due to some hang up, how far apart the various energy levels due to spin states are in nuclei. What would determine how close together each step would be to its neighbors? Is this a measurement determined quantity or calculated by a really good formula? Dave -Original Message- From: Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, Aug 1, 2014 2:35 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Important finding for nanomagnetism LENR Jones and Axil-- As You may guess, I tend to agree with your considerations regarding spin coupling and magnetic resonances. The intense fields at small dimensions allowed by the nano size structures is an inference that I have long held. Keep up the good discovery work. I wonder if any of the Professors at the University of Strasbourg are in the group trying to determine the theory of Rossi’s TPT? I’m heading to the University of Bologna in 6 weeks and hope to talk with the folks there about their ideas. I will report back asap. Bob Cook Sent from Windows Mail From: Axil Axil Sent: Friday, August 1, 2014 8:21 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com If a magnetic force is produced by an atomic level cause whose dimensions are nanoscale, and the intensity of the magnetic force at 20 cm is 1 tesla. By the cube law relationship, the intensity of the magnetic source as produced on the nanoscale can be reckoned as 2*10^^8 cubed or something like 8*10^^24 tesla. On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: http://phys.org/news/2014-07-tiny-magnets-huge-fields-nanoscale.html#nwlt Doudin et al - at University of Strasbourg propose that nano ferromagnetic electrodes can create powerful localized force fields which are tuned by an external magnetic field. Localized field is a key. Inverse square power laws can make a large difference. Their finding can be understood as similar to a precondition for nanomagnetism in LENR. Of course, this paper is ostensibly not related to LENR, so it would also be a mistake to try to read too much into it. One must first understand the nuances of superparamagnetism, as the gateway to spin-coupling in LENR... then this cross-connection can become apparent. The authors construct nanonickel electrodes in a solution containing paramagnetic molecules and control the electrode's magnetization direction with an external magnetic field. In so doing, they created a conductive molecular-sized switching system which is the chemical equivalent of a spintronics spin valve. Spin coupling is implied. In LENR this molecular level switching would occur
