Re: [Vo]:A new energy source from nuclear fusion, S Focardi, A Rossi, 9p text 2010.03.22: Rich Murray 2011.01.14
Thanks! Can you send me a link for the full text of the patent? I'm online at home at 1:15 AM MST in Santa Fe, New Mexico, waiting for their online demo in 45 minutes -- looks like the real thing, for sure... Rich rmfor...@gmail.com On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 12:10 AM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Rich. Have you seen the brand new patent -published just in time (January 13) WO 20110005506 Method and apparstus for carrying out nickel and hydrogen exotermal reaction inventor Andrea Rossi? Peter On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 7:15 AM, Rich Murray rmfor...@gmail.com wrote: A new energy source from nuclear fusion, S Focardi, A Rossi, 9p text 2010.03.22: Rich Murray 2011.01.14 http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/files/Rossi-Focardi_paper.pdf 9 pages A new energy source from nuclear fusion S. Focardi (1) and A. Rossi (2) (1) Physics Department Bologna University and INFN Bologna Section (2) Leonardo Corp. (USA) - Inventor of the Patent March 22, 2010 Abstract A process (international patent publication N. WO 2009/125444 A1) capable of producing large amounts of energy by a nuclear fusion process between nickel and hydrogen, occurring below 1000 K, is described. Experimental values of the ratios between output and input energies obtained in a certain number of experiments are reported. The occurrence of the effect is justified on the basis of existing experimental and theoretical results. Measurements performed during the experiments allow to exclude neutron and gamma rays emissions. The patented apparatus is able of producing a constant and reliable amount of energy for a period of months. Two different samples of material used in the experiments labelled in table 1 as method A (288 kWh produced) and method B (4774 kWh produced) were analysed at Padua University SIMS. In the long period sample, the mass analysis showed the presence of three peaks in the mass region 63-65 a.m.u. which correspond respectively to Cu 63, elements (Ni 64 and Zn 64) deriving from Cu 64 decay and Cu 65. These allowed us the determination of the ratio Cu 63/Cu 65=1,6 different from the value (2,24) relative to the copper isotopic natural composition. The peak in the mass spectrum at a.m.u.=64, due to Ni 64 and Zn 64 (both caming from Cu 64 decay) requires the existence of Ni 63 which, absent in natural Ni composition, must have been in precedence produced starting by more light nickel isotopes. More details on this analysis will be given in a successive paper [8]. 6. email address sergio.foca...@bo.infn.it andrearo...@journal-of-nuclear-physics.com
Re: [Vo]:A new energy source from nuclear fusion, S Focardi, A Rossi, 9p text 2010.03.22: Rich Murray 2011.01.14
Dear Rich. It is here- http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20110005506 I am now an expert websearcher if you have such problems, do not hesitate to write me. As regarding the press conference of today I am worried for the unadequate questions- see please my blog at http://egooutpeters.blogspotcom The system works output/input is 14, but it is absolutely clear taht even the inventors don't know how and why it works. At least I know why Cold Fusion - other systems don't work. They are poisoned. Best wishes, Peter On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Rich Murray rmfor...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks! Can you send me a link for the full text of the patent? I'm online at home at 1:15 AM MST in Santa Fe, New Mexico, waiting for their online demo in 45 minutes -- looks like the real thing, for sure... Rich rmfor...@gmail.com On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 12:10 AM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Rich. Have you seen the brand new patent -published just in time (January 13) WO 20110005506 Method and apparstus for carrying out nickel and hydrogen exotermal reaction inventor Andrea Rossi? Peter On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 7:15 AM, Rich Murray rmfor...@gmail.com wrote: A new energy source from nuclear fusion, S Focardi, A Rossi, 9p text 2010.03.22: Rich Murray 2011.01.14 http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/files/Rossi-Focardi_paper.pdf 9 pages A new energy source from nuclear fusion S. Focardi (1) and A. Rossi (2) (1) Physics Department Bologna University and INFN Bologna Section (2) Leonardo Corp. (USA) - Inventor of the Patent March 22, 2010 Abstract A process (international patent publication N. WO 2009/125444 A1) capable of producing large amounts of energy by a nuclear fusion process between nickel and hydrogen, occurring below 1000 K, is described. Experimental values of the ratios between output and input energies obtained in a certain number of experiments are reported. The occurrence of the effect is justified on the basis of existing experimental and theoretical results. Measurements performed during the experiments allow to exclude neutron and gamma rays emissions. The patented apparatus is able of producing a constant and reliable amount of energy for a period of months. Two different samples of material used in the experiments labelled in table 1 as method A (288 kWh produced) and method B (4774 kWh produced) were analysed at Padua University SIMS. In the long period sample, the mass analysis showed the presence of three peaks in the mass region 63-65 a.m.u. which correspond respectively to Cu 63, elements (Ni 64 and Zn 64) deriving from Cu 64 decay and Cu 65. These allowed us the determination of the ratio Cu 63/Cu 65=1,6 different from the value (2,24) relative to the copper isotopic natural composition. The peak in the mass spectrum at a.m.u.=64, due to Ni 64 and Zn 64 (both caming from Cu 64 decay) requires the existence of Ni 63 which, absent in natural Ni composition, must have been in precedence produced starting by more light nickel isotopes. More details on this analysis will be given in a successive paper [8]. 6. email address sergio.foca...@bo.infn.it andrearo...@journal-of-nuclear-physics.com
Re: [Vo]:A new energy source from nuclear fusion, S Focardi, A Rossi, 9p text 2010.03.22: Rich Murray 2011.01.14
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 3:45 AM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Rich. It is here- http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20110005506 I am now an expert websearcher if you have such problems, do not hesitate to write me. As regarding the press conference of today I am worried for the unadequate questions- see please my blog at http://egooutpeters.blogspotcom The system works output/input is 14, but it is absolutely clear taht even the inventors don't know how and why it works. At least I know why Cold Fusion - other systems don't work. They are poisoned. Poisoned by what? Something in the atmosphere? Oxygen? Terry
Re: [Vo]:A new energy source from nuclear fusion, S Focardi, A Rossi, 9p text 2010.03.22: Rich Murray 2011.01.14
Not oxygen, there are ppm and ppb impurities containing S, C and N including light hydrocarbures that are adsorbed on the nuclear active sites and destroy them- inactivate them almost irreversibly. For example laser irradiation of Cravens and Letts is able to partially and temporary remove these poison molecules and to start the LENR process. I am speaking about omnipresent traces of CO, SO2, SH2, CO, Sh2, metahne, ethylene... To understand this well it is necessary: - to have a correct imagine of how polluted is the air; - to have practical experience and feeling in high vacuum technology to know how strong is the adherence of this killer polar molecules to the metallic surfaces. It happens that this morning I have received a nice message from Prof Francesco Piantelli- the initiator and main developer of this winner, uniquely reproducible LENR process- see please the Google translation re his opinion about cleanliness of the surfaces in this process. Cleanliness is certainly very important and if it is not made satisfactory makes it very difficult to trigger the process of abnormal energy production. This was the main cause of the initial incomplete reproducibility of the phenomenon. Removing those poisons is a sine qua non condition for CF, a necessary condition but it is not sufficient. I have told this for years but nobody is listening. I feel like those guys from Australia who have discovered the cause of ulcers. Happy to see that the creators of this Ni-H process know it. Unfortunately other researchers ignore these poison molecules and will have reproducible CF five minutes after the Hell freezes. Peter On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 3:45 AM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Rich. It is here- http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20110005506 I am now an expert websearcher if you have such problems, do not hesitate to write me. As regarding the press conference of today I am worried for the unadequate questions- see please my blog at http://egooutpeters.blogspotcom The system works output/input is 14, but it is absolutely clear taht even the inventors don't know how and why it works. At least I know why Cold Fusion - other systems don't work. They are poisoned. Poisoned by what? Something in the atmosphere? Oxygen? Terry
Re: [Vo]:A new energy source from nuclear fusion, S Focardi, A Rossi, 9p text 2010.03.22: Rich Murray 2011.01.14
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: Removing those poisons is a sine qua non condition for CF, a necessary condition but it is not sufficient. I must admit, it certainly explains many issues including reproducibility of experiments. Does Dennis Cravens concur that it was laser ablation of impurities which enhanced initiation? Congratulations, by the way, to you and all LENR researchers. Terry
Re: [Vo]:A new energy source from nuclear fusion, S Focardi, A Rossi, 9p text 2010.03.22: Rich Murray 2011.01.14
As far I know, absolutely nobody agrees with me. It seems my thinking is special as explained at my blog's first page. On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: Removing those poisons is a sine qua non condition for CF, a necessary condition but it is not sufficient. I must admit, it certainly explains many issues including reproducibility of experiments. Does Dennis Cravens concur that it was laser ablation of impurities which enhanced initiation? Congratulations, by the way, to you and all LENR researchers. Terry
Re: [Vo]:A new energy source from nuclear fusion, S Focardi, A Rossi, 9p text 2010.03.22: Rich Murray 2011.01.14
Peter, I like what you have to say. I have been dealing with transformations and cold fusion for a little while now and I understand there are some simple ground rules and basic understandings that have to be adhered to. People just don't go onto the public platform with bogus claims anymore. Your understanding is on track and I for one appreciate your input. DVD From: Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, January 15, 2011 10:01:53 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:A new energy source from nuclear fusion, S Focardi, A Rossi, 9p text 2010.03.22: Rich Murray 2011.01.14 As far I know, absolutely nobody agrees with me. It seems my thinking is special as explained at my blog's first page. On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: Removing those poisons is a sine qua non condition for CF, a necessary condition but it is not sufficient. I must admit, it certainly explains many issues including reproducibility of experiments. Does Dennis Cravens concur that it was laser ablation of impurities which enhanced initiation? Congratulations, by the way, to you and all LENR researchers. Terry
Re: [Vo]:A new energy source from nuclear fusion, S Focardi, A Rossi, 9p text 2010.03.22: Rich Murray 2011.01.14
Dear Rich. Have you seen the brand new patent -published *just in time* (January 13) WO 20110005506 Method and apparstus for carrying out nickel and hydrogen exotermal reaction inventor Andrea Rossi? Peter On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 7:15 AM, Rich Murray rmfor...@gmail.com wrote: A new energy source from nuclear fusion, S Focardi, A Rossi, 9p text 2010.03.22: Rich Murray 2011.01.14 http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/files/Rossi-Focardi_paper.pdf 9 pages A new energy source from nuclear fusion S. Focardi (1) and A. Rossi (2) (1) Physics Department Bologna University and INFN Bologna Section (2) Leonardo Corp. (USA) - Inventor of the Patent March 22, 2010 Abstract A process (international patent publication N. WO 2009/125444 A1) capable of producing large amounts of energy by a nuclear fusion process between nickel and hydrogen, occurring below 1000 K, is described. Experimental values of the ratios between output and input energies obtained in a certain number of experiments are reported. The occurrence of the effect is justified on the basis of existing experimental and theoretical results. Measurements performed during the experiments allow to exclude neutron and gamma rays emissions. The patented apparatus is able of producing a constant and reliable amount of energy for a period of months. Two different samples of material used in the experiments labelled in table 1 as method A (288 kWh produced) and method B (4774 kWh produced) were analysed at Padua University SIMS. In the long period sample, the mass analysis showed the presence of three peaks in the mass region 63-65 a.m.u. which correspond respectively to Cu 63, elements (Ni 64 and Zn 64) deriving from Cu 64 decay and Cu 65. These allowed us the determination of the ratio Cu 63/Cu 65=1,6 different from the value (2,24) relative to the copper isotopic natural composition. The peak in the mass spectrum at a.m.u.=64, due to Ni 64 and Zn 64 (both caming from Cu 64 decay) requires the existence of Ni 63 which, absent in natural Ni composition, must have been in precedence produced starting by more light nickel isotopes. More details on this analysis will be given in a successive paper [8]. 6. email address sergio.foca...@bo.infn.it andrearo...@journal-of-nuclear-physics.com
