Re: [Vo]:Government Scientists More Efficient at Splitting Hydrogen

2012-01-04 Thread Axil Axil
Their lab includes a custom built three-chamber UHV system equipped with
the state-of-the-art surface sensitive tools, including Low Energy Ion
Scattering Spectroscopy (LEISS), Auger Electron Spectroscopy (AES), angle
resolved X-ray photoemission spectroscopy (XPS with monochromator),
ultraviolet photoelectron spectroscopy (UPS), Low Energy Electron
Diffraction (LEED) optics, sputtering guns, thermal evaporators, dual
hemispherical analyzers, and chamber with scanning tunneling microscopy
(STM) and atomic force microscopy AFM. All three chambers are connected to
each other but they can also work as independent chambers, making it
possible to transfer samples from one to the other unit in order to get
detailed surface characterization or to make desirable surface modification.


The only equipment that Rossi used in his work was shear stubbornness.



These modern research methods as listed above will move cold fusion ahead.


On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com
 wrote:

  Jan 2 Article on Cleantechnica
 http://cleantechnica.com/2012/01/02/government-scientists-more-efficient-at-splitting-hydrogen/
 

 Looks like Argonne scientists are keeping up with Ni-H [snip] The new
 catalyst combination drove the reaction at ten times the previous rate,
 saving both energy and money. Chalk one up for those “Big Government”
 scientists – who this year escaped narrowly escaped defunding by the Tea
 Party/GOP. [/snip]

 Fran

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Re: [Vo]:Government Scientists More Efficient at Splitting Hydrogen

2012-01-04 Thread Alain Sepeda
+1

Make me think about Patton, that make the Normandy debarkation succeed, but
nearly make it fail because of his lack of professionalism.
Same for Churchill, who was dangerous in peace but invaluable in war.

sometime you need pathologic personalities to make a breakthrough of fight
hard time...
most often you need more stable people...
this is why in big Corp. you should build a nest of braindamaged (call that
the real RD dept ), insulated (with a lead and concrete wall) from the
Corp. but todays RD (if it has survived the restructuring) is simply good
engineers with a stable brain (like Defkalion), who follow consensus and
proved facts...

I can talk of that because I have moved from one to the other...

with all love, respect  and thanks to the brain-damaged guys and girls that
make our world what it is, with fire, agriculture, electricity, mechanic,
nuke, cars, oil, trains and LENR.

anyway, all is a question of proportion...
as someone cite to me
don't be so *open minded* that your brains *fall* out
I also repeat often, be moderate with moderation.

2012/1/4 Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com

 The only equipment that Rossi used in his work was shear stubbornness.


Re: [Vo]:Government Scientists More Efficient at Splitting Hydrogen

2012-01-04 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 5:12 AM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote:
 +1

 Make me think about Patton, that make the Normandy debarkation succeed, but
 nearly make it fail because of his lack of professionalism.

Could you expand on this?  I know that Patton created the Calais
diversion; but, it was intentional.

T



Re: [Vo]:Government Scientists More Efficient at Splitting Hydrogen

2012-01-04 Thread Alain Sepeda
maybe we make mistake in the family,
but according to mum (who was there, kid under the bombs, then near the
tank, but who hear of the war history from local buzz)
Patton decided to head somewhere ahead (not calais; Calais was an earlier
secret service diversion, operation Fortitude, fantastic disinformation
campaign using triple agents, dead body with suitcase, false leaks to
compromised resistance networks)
and did not wait for the intendance (fuel,food,munitions) to came,
putting his courageous raid in uncertainty... headquarter did moan, but was
weaker than Patton stone-head.
finally he wins, get faster that the Germans, and slower than the fuel, on
average...

note2:
reading wikipedia, I learned that
- he was the fake general of Calais invasion army, according to Fortitude
diversion
- he was then real general commanding 3rd US army in Normandy, and did a
breakthrough at Avranches, and get short of fuel farther around river
Meuse, where German could fortify Metz and Nancy... they surrender anyway,
but caused losses.

note that after peace, his history is more controversial...
like Churchill's .

thanks for making me understand mum history.

2012/1/4 Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com

 Could you expand on this?  I know that Patton created the Calais
 diversion; but, it was intentional.


Re: [Vo]:Government Scientists More Efficient at Splitting Hydrogen

2012-01-03 Thread noone noone
All of those big government scientists should be de-funded. Especially all the 
hot fusion scientists -- every last one! Unfortunately, the Tea Party has been 
corrupted by liberal leaning individuals who want to keep spending tax dollars 
unconstitutionally, on projects the government has no business being involved 
in. If we really wanted scientific progress to accelerate in the energy field, 
we would reduce govt by eliminating subsidies to all energy producers, 
including big oil. 


With a true free market (not croney capitalism that bailsout banks and 
automakers) alternative energy technologies would thrive. I'm looking forward 
to when the R evol UTION wins the White House, and cuts a trillion dollars in 
ONE YEAR. 


The only aspect of the govt that in my opinion is constitutionally authorized 
to research cold fusion or hydrogen technology is the military, as part of a 
national defense (not a national offense). 




 From: Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com vortex-l@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2012 3:38 PM
Subject: [Vo]:Government Scientists More Efficient at Splitting Hydrogen
 

Jan 2 Article on Cleantechnica 
http://cleantechnica.com/2012/01/02/government-scientists-more-efficient-at-splitting-hydrogen/
 
Looks like Argonne scientists are keeping up with Ni-H [snip] The new catalyst 
combination drove the reaction at ten times the previous rate, saving both 
energy and money. Chalk one up for those “Big Government” scientists – who this 
year escaped narrowly escaped defunding by the Tea Party/GOP. [/snip]
Fran