Re: [Vo]:Press release Blacklightpower : Weinberg

2012-05-23 Thread Alan J Fletcher

At 02:19 PM 5/22/2012, Alan J Fletcher wrote:

At 07:40 AM 5/22/2012, Daniel Rocha wrote:
And it is extremely ambitious to talk about 1KJ. 6 orders of 
magnitude of improvement within a few months.


The Weinberg report : 
http://www.blacklightpower.com/wp-content/uploads/pdf/WeinbergReport.pdf 
indicates that it's straight-forward electro-chemical engineering.


I see that Rowan U has had quite a long association with BLP. eg 
Their Blacklight Rocket Engine

http://www.niac.usra.edu/files/studies/final_report/752Marchese.pdf

Weinberg says it's not unheard of to get a 10^5 increase from first 
hit to production .. but BLP has been at it quite a while.
Or is the main change that they're no longer aiming at heat, but 
direct electricity, and THAT is unoptimized?


Also, Weinberg's calculation of reactions/area assume it's hydrinos 
-- so the reaction rate from some other mechanism could be quite different.


So ... since these are mostly consultant reports (except the 
anonymous Fortune 500 company) .. how independent are they? 



Re: [Vo]:Press release Blacklightpower : Rowan U

2012-05-23 Thread Alan J Fletcher

At 01:20 PM 5/23/2012, Alan J Fletcher wrote:
I see that Rowan U has had quite a long association with BLP. eg 
Their Blacklight Rocket Engine

http://www.niac.usra.edu/files/studies/final_report/752Marchese.pdf


It's Ramanujachary who's from Rowan.
http://www.blacklightpower.com/wp-content/uploads/pdf/RamanujacharyCV.pdf
http://www.blacklightpower.com/wp-content/uploads/pdf/RamanujacharyReport.pdf




Re: [Vo]:Press release Blacklightpower : Copeland / Fortune 500

2012-05-23 Thread Alan J Fletcher


Copeland :

http://www.blacklightpower.com/wp-content/uploads/pdf/CopelandReport.pdf
 spills the beans 
(Manual cut and paste ...) Some of those were validation cells
under test by Sanmina-SCI scientists, another validation team.

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune500/2012/snapshots/10805.html

Rank: 376 

http://www.sanmina-sci.com/
(They've had previous partnerships in the solar area.)




Re: [Vo]:Press release Blacklightpower : Sanmina-SCI

2012-05-23 Thread Alan J Fletcher

At 01:46 PM 5/23/2012, Alan J Fletcher wrote:
Copeland : 
http://www.blacklightpower.com/wp-content/uploads/pdf/CopelandReport.pdf 
spills the beans
Some of those were validation cells under test by Sanmina-SCI 
scientists, another validation team.

http://www.sanmina-sci.com/
(They've had previous partnerships in the solar area.)


http://www.sanmina-sci.com/sections/industries/clean-technology/index.php

Sanmina-SCI is committed to serving companies leading the energy 
revolution in the solar, wind, fuel cell, battery systems and clean 
tech industries.



Looks as if they should be able to figure out if it's fake pretty quickly.




Re: [Vo]:Press release Blacklightpower : Sanmina-SCI

2012-05-23 Thread Alan J Fletcher


At 02:03 PM 5/23/2012, Alan J Fletcher wrote:


http://www.sanmina-sci.com/sections/industries/clean-technology/index.php

Sanmina-SCI is committed to serving companies leading the energy
revolution in the solar, wind, fuel cell, battery systems and clean tech
industries.

http://www.blacklightpower.com/wp-content/uploads/pdf/F500Study.pdf

Lists VP of Engineering Defense and Aerospace
Sanmina has a Defense and Aerospace Systems (DAS)
Division 

http://www.sanmina-sci.com/sections/industries/defense-aerospace/





Re: [Vo]:Press release Blacklightpower

2012-05-22 Thread Peter Gluck
Impressive, however small power, small energy,
results some 5 months old- the phase of scale up, intensification, long
term functionality has only started..
Science is great but engineering put's the generators on the market. Let's
hope the best
Peter

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 4:30 PM, P.J van Noorden pjvannoor...@caiway.nlwrote:



 See press release and validation reports from Blacklightpower:

 http://dev.blacklightpower.**com/press/052212-2/http://dev.blacklightpower.com/press/052212-2/

 http://www.blacklightpower.**com/technology/validation-**reports/http://www.blacklightpower.com/technology/validation-reports/


 Peter




-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com


Re: [Vo]:Press release Blacklightpower

2012-05-22 Thread Terry Blanton
Haynes 242 alloy:

http://www.haynesintl.com/pdf/h3142.pdf

T



Re: [Vo]:Press release Blacklightpower

2012-05-22 Thread Daniel Rocha
Indeed! So small, that it won't remove skepticism from skeptics. They will
say it's an error in measurment. And it is extremely ambitious to talk
about 1KJ. 6 orders of magnitude of improvement within a few months.

2012/5/22 Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com

 Impressive, however small power, small energy,
 results some 5 months old- the phase of scale up, intensification, long
 term functionality has only started..
 Science is great but engineering put's the generators on the market. Let's
 hope the best
 Peter


 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 4:30 PM, P.J van Noorden 
 pjvannoor...@caiway.nlwrote:



 See press release and validation reports from Blacklightpower:

 http://dev.blacklightpower.**com/press/052212-2/http://dev.blacklightpower.com/press/052212-2/

 http://www.blacklightpower.**com/technology/validation-**reports/http://www.blacklightpower.com/technology/validation-reports/


 Peter




 --
 Dr. Peter Gluck
 Cluj, Romania
 http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com




-- 
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com


Re: [Vo]:Press release Blacklightpower

2012-05-22 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Peter,


I am somehow tired, as we probably all are, of all those annnouncements of 
'breakthroughs' .

Randall M. probably sees the 'scene' moving away from him and feels challened 
to announce his n'th breakthrough.
Count me unimpressed.

Albeit I consider the LENR  phenomenon real, quite a lot of  Quacks need a 
decent dose of psychotherapy, it seems.
Sorry to say that.

After poking into Mill's 2000+ pages theory of everything, I am impressed by 
his boldness, but not what he has to present.






 Von: Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
Gesendet: 16:12 Dienstag, 22.Mai 2012
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Press release Blacklightpower
 

Impressive, however small power, small energy,
results some 5 months old- the phase of scale up, intensification, long term 
functionality has only started..
Science is great but engineering put's the generators on the market. Let's hope 
the best
Peter


On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 4:30 PM, P.J van Noorden pjvannoor...@caiway.nl wrote:



See press release and validation reports from Blacklightpower:

http://dev.blacklightpower.com/press/052212-2/

http://www.blacklightpower.com/technology/validation-reports/


Peter 



-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

Re: [Vo]:Press release Blacklightpower

2012-05-22 Thread fznidarsic
I have seen a lot of water vapor, in my bathtub, in my sink, in fog, emitted 
from a boiler, at high pressure.  There was never any excess energy.


Yes, I know, Blacklight discovered the hydrino and they have all of them.


Frank





Re: [Vo]:Press release Blacklightpower

2012-05-22 Thread Guenter Wildgruber





 Von: Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
Gesendet: 16:40 Dienstag, 22.Mai 2012
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Press release Blacklightpower
 

Indeed! So small, that it won't remove skepticism from skeptics. They will say 
it's an error in measurment. And it is extremely ambitious to talk about 1KJ. 6 
orders of magnitude of improvement within a few months.
##

I am just thinking of Zuckerbererg investing a meager 100million  into  
Blacklight Power.

Is it 'real' evidence to invest 'virtual' money into 'virtual' evidence?

Count me confused.

Guenther

RE: [Vo]:Press release Blacklightpower

2012-05-22 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton 

Haynes 242 alloy:
http://www.haynesintl.com/pdf/h3142.pdf



Hmmm ... Good eye, Terry. It is probably not coincidental that this is one
of the highest available alloys in molybdenum content. Moly is possibly the
best fit catalyst in the periodic table, but the unalloyed metal is
extremely prone to corrosion. 

Anyone who reads the BLP experiments with an eye towards best fit can see
the 'usual suspects' in Column one and two of the Table. The criterion is to
be as close as possible at 27.2 eV - using the confusing Mills rules of
engagement, and eliminating 3-body reactions.

Molybdenum ions are a good fit at 27.13 which is off by only .07 eV and this
for the Mo(2+) ion; plus the miss with moly is on the low side. 

It seems possible, using the energy hole analogy, that you would want to
err on the low side of 27.2 eV if you cannot hit it exactly - since the
approaching hydrogen atom carries momentum. 

Jones




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Re: [Vo]:Press release Blacklightpower

2012-05-22 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Frank

You have to bathe in Ni nano powder to dilate the space time which the vapor 
then diffuses into becoming hydrino or inverse Rydberg from our perspective - I 
would posit gas loading is actually based on temporal distortion where many 
more atoms can perform Lorentzian contraction to fit into an impossibly small 
space, radiating huge numbers of spontaneous emissions from our perspective 
which are also frequency skewed due to their  Pythagorean relationship to our 
frame. Instead of accelerating the object to near C and causing time to slow 
[ether velocity vs  object velocity] you instead use Casimir suppression to 
segregate the ether velocity into faster and slower pockets through which you 
selectively diffuse your hydrogen.

Fran

From: fznidar...@aol.com [mailto:fznidar...@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 10:51 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Press release Blacklightpower

I have seen a lot of water vapor, in my bathtub, in my sink, in fog, emitted 
from a boiler, at high pressure.  There was never any excess energy.

Yes, I know, Blacklight discovered the hydrino and they have all of them.

Frank



Re: [Vo]:Press release Blacklightpower

2012-05-22 Thread Alan J Fletcher

At 07:40 AM 5/22/2012, Daniel Rocha wrote:
And it is extremely ambitious to talk about 1KJ. 6 orders of 
magnitude of improvement within a few months.


The Weinberg report : 
http://www.blacklightpower.com/wp-content/uploads/pdf/WeinbergReport.pdf 
indicates that it's straight-forward electro-chemical engineering.


The PDF's secured, so I can't cut and paste .  Page 2-3, and 
particularly Page 3 starting with A combination of increasing the 
surface area ...




Re: [Vo]:Press release Blacklightpower

2012-05-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:



 The PDF's secured, so I can't cut and paste .  Page 2-3, and particularly
 Page 3 starting with A combination of increasing the surface area ...



Secured PDFs are annoying, aren't they? Here is the text you meant to quote:



A combination of increasing the surface area of the supported catalyst and
improving/optimizing the supported catalyst could increase the power output
of a single CIHT cell by many orders of magnitude. In the former case,
using the power density of about 3 mW/cm2 of the Mo-anode cell and a
thickness of each cell of a stack of 30 microns, the projected power
density is 1 kW/1. Furthermore, the 3 mW/cm2 based on the geometrical
surface area of the Mo electrode can be increased by large factors by using
textured materials with much larger surface areas than the geometrical
surface areas. Moreover, an improvement of five orders of magnitude, which
is not unprecedented in the heterogeneous catalysis literature between the
first hit and the optimized catalyst . . .


Re: [Vo]:Press release Blacklightpower

2012-05-22 Thread Michele Comitini
Alan,

If you have firefox you can render most PDFs in your browser without
any extra reader.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/pdfjs

plain js + html5

You can do all the copying you need then ;-)

mic


2012/5/22 Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com:
 At 07:40 AM 5/22/2012, Daniel Rocha wrote:

 And it is extremely ambitious to talk about 1KJ. 6 orders of magnitude of
 improvement within a few months.


 The Weinberg report :
 http://www.blacklightpower.com/wp-content/uploads/pdf/WeinbergReport.pdf
 indicates that it's straight-forward electro-chemical engineering.

 The PDF's secured, so I can't cut and paste .  Page 2-3, and particularly
 Page 3 starting with A combination of increasing the surface area ...




Re: [Vo]:Press release Blacklightpower

2012-05-22 Thread Terry Blanton
You can always print, scan and OCR it with a cheap all-in-one printer.

T