Re: [Vo]:Re: 2 Modes of the FPE

2014-03-22 Thread Edmund Storms
Bob, temperature is not the source of cracks or have any role in their 
function. Temperature changes the rate at which hydrogen is delivered to the 
crack. It is important to understand the role of each variable. You can find an 
explanation at http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/StormsEexplaining.pdf.

Ed Storms
On Mar 22, 2014, at 1:04 PM, Bob Cook wrote:

 Ed--
  
 Engineering resonances associated with any given crack characteristic 
 associated with LENR activation may help expand the useful  crack population. 
  Rossi seems to use temperature as a control.
  
 Bob
 From: Edmund Storms
 Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 10:46 AM
 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
 Cc: Edmund Storms
 Subject: Re: [Vo]:2 Modes of the FPE
  
 Yes, getting a wide variety of sizes is easy. Getting enough of the right 
 size in this distribution is the problem. Only a few of the right size will 
 not give enough energy to be detected. When radiation or tritium is used to 
 detect the occurrence of LENR, the effect can be seen using fewer active 
 sites.  However, these methods hav e not been used very often, probably 
 because the tools and skill are not common.
  
 Cracks either want to grow larger or sinter and disappear.  As a result, 
 production of LENR is unstable.  This makes the effect occur for brief times, 
 but not long enough to be sure LENR is actually happening rather than a 
 random event.
  
 Ed Stormss 
 On Mar 22, 2014, at 11:28 AM, James Bowery wrote:
 
  
 
 
 On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com 
 wrote:
  
 Based on my theory, the active material are nano-cracks. Making these at the 
 require size is the challenge. Cracks can be made many different ways, but 
 getting the right size is the problem.
 
 Might there be a technique that generates a wide distribution of crack sizes?
  
 
  



Re: [Vo]:Re: 2 Modes of the FPE

2014-03-22 Thread Axil Axil
There is more than one way to skin a cat. LENR active cracks can be
produced in more than one way. The way Rossi produces NAE is different than
the way Ed Storms produces NAE, and Rossi is far more productive and robust
at it.



Rossi produces NAE with his mouse which is a nano-particle generator.
Nano-particles are attracted to each other and form fractal arrogates.
These arrogates are like dust bunnies that you find under the bed. They
enclose countless nano-cavities that serve as NAE.



Here is pictures of such a fractal abrogate:



http://ej.iop.org/images/1367-2630/11/6/063030/Full/nj33fig1.jpg



Note the presence of numerous nano-cavities that develops naturally through
electrostatic processes.



When these dust bunnies drift onto the 5 micron micro particles, the micro
particles use dipole vibration to feed power into these NAE inside the dust
bunnies.



I deeply regret that Ed Storms cannot comprehend this simple process. It
would be better for LENR if he did.












On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote:

 Bob, temperature is not the source of cracks or have any role in their
 function. Temperature changes the rate at which hydrogen is delivered to
 the crack. It is important to understand the role of each variable. You can
 find an explanation at http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/StormsEexplaining.pdf.

 Ed Storms

 On Mar 22, 2014, at 1:04 PM, Bob Cook wrote:

   Ed--

 Engineering resonances associated with any given crack characteristic
 associated with LENR activation may help expand the useful  crack
 population.  Rossi seems to use temperature as a control.

 Bob
  *From:* Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com
 *Sent:* Saturday, March 22, 2014 10:46 AM
 *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
 *Cc:* Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com
 *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:2 Modes of the FPE

 Yes, getting a wide variety of sizes is easy. Getting enough of the right
 size in this distribution is the problem. Only a few of the right size will
 not give enough energy to be detected. When radiation or tritium is used to
 detect the occurrence of LENR, the effect can be seen using fewer active
 sites.  However, these methods hav e not been used very often, probably
 because the tools and skill are not common.

 Cracks either want to grow larger or sinter and disappear.  As a result,
 production of LENR is unstable.  This makes the effect occur for brief
 times, but not long enough to be sure LENR is actually happening rather
 than a random event.

 Ed Stormss
  On Mar 22, 2014, at 11:28 AM, James Bowery wrote:




 On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote:


   Based on my theory, the active material are nano-cracks. Making these
 at the require size is the challenge. Cracks can be made many different
 ways, but getting the right size is the problem.

 Might there be a technique that generates a wide distribution of crack
 sizes?








Re: [Vo]:Re: 2 Modes of the FPE

2014-03-22 Thread Edmund Storms
Axil, how do you know how I produce the NAE. I do not know this and neither of 
us knows how Rossi does this.  Your guesses are not useful.  

I can comprehend the process you describe. I just do not believe it. Do you see 
the difference? 

Ed Storms
On Mar 22, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Axil Axil wrote:

 There is more than one way to skin a cat. LENR active cracks can be produced 
 in more than one way. The way Rossi produces NAE is different than the way Ed 
 Storms produces NAE, and Rossi is far more productive and robust at it.
  
 Rossi produces NAE with his “mouse” which is a nano-particle generator. 
 Nano-particles are attracted to each other and form fractal arrogates. These 
 arrogates are like dust bunnies that you find under the bed. They enclose 
 countless nano-cavities that serve as NAE.
  
 Here is pictures of such a fractal abrogate:
  
 http://ej.iop.org/images/1367-2630/11/6/063030/Full/nj33fig1.jpg
  
 Note the presence of numerous nano-cavities that develops naturally through 
 electrostatic processes.  
  
 When these dust bunnies drift onto the 5 micron micro particles, the micro 
 particles use dipole vibration to feed power into these NAE inside the dust 
 bunnies.
  
 I deeply regret that Ed Storms cannot comprehend this simple process. It 
 would be better for LENR if he did.
  
  
  
  
  
 
 
 On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
 Bob, temperature is not the source of cracks or have any role in their 
 function. Temperature changes the rate at which hydrogen is delivered to the 
 crack. It is important to understand the role of each variable. You can find 
 an explanation at http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/StormsEexplaining.pdf.
 
 Ed Storms
 
 On Mar 22, 2014, at 1:04 PM, Bob Cook wrote:
 
 Ed--
  
 Engineering resonances associated with any given crack characteristic 
 associated with LENR activation may help expand the useful  crack 
 population.  Rossi seems to use temperature as a control.
  
 Bob
 From: Edmund Storms
 Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 10:46 AM
 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
 Cc: Edmund Storms
 Subject: Re: [Vo]:2 Modes of the FPE
  
 Yes, getting a wide variety of sizes is easy. Getting enough of the right 
 size in this distribution is the problem. Only a few of the right size will 
 not give enough energy to be detected. When radiation or tritium is used to 
 detect the occurrence of LENR, the effect can be seen using fewer active 
 sites.  However, these methods hav e not been used very often, probably 
 because the tools and skill are not common.
  
 Cracks either want to grow larger or sinter and disappear.  As a result, 
 production of LENR is unstable.  This makes the effect occur for brief 
 times, but not long enough to be sure LENR is actually happening rather than 
 a random event.
  
 Ed Stormss 
 On Mar 22, 2014, at 11:28 AM, James Bowery wrote:
 
  
 
 
 On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com 
 wrote:
  
 Based on my theory, the active material are nano-cracks. Making these at 
 the require size is the challenge. Cracks can be made many different ways, 
 but getting the right size is the problem.
 
 Might there be a technique that generates a wide distribution of crack 
 sizes?
  
 
  
 
 



Re: [Vo]:Re: 2 Modes of the FPE

2014-03-22 Thread Axil Axil
Yes, a guess but a good guess. Rossi's mouse is stimulating the Cat with
something that floats on a hydrogen gas current and whose production is
controlled through the application of heat.

Rossi solved his control problem by separating dust bunnies production in
one unit that has a very low Q and is not subject to  run away
reaction; independent of  a very reactive high Q unit (the Cat) that is
essentially supercritical.  The Cat just consumes these dust particles
vigorously, but this stage cannot produce dust bunnies to cause a positive
feedback runaway reaction through a direct thermal connection.

It is so obvious and so simple.


On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote:

 Axil, how do you know how I produce the NAE. I do not know this and
 neither of us knows how Rossi does this.  Your guesses are not useful.

 I can comprehend the process you describe. I just do not believe it. Do
 you see the difference?

 Ed Storms

 On Mar 22, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Axil Axil wrote:

 There is more than one way to skin a cat. LENR active cracks can be
 produced in more than one way. The way Rossi produces NAE is different than
 the way Ed Storms produces NAE, and Rossi is far more productive and robust
 at it.


 Rossi produces NAE with his mouse which is a nano-particle generator.
 Nano-particles are attracted to each other and form fractal arrogates.
 These arrogates are like dust bunnies that you find under the bed. They
 enclose countless nano-cavities that serve as NAE.


 Here is pictures of such a fractal abrogate:


 http://ej.iop.org/images/1367-2630/11/6/063030/Full/nj33fig1.jpg


 Note the presence of numerous nano-cavities that develops naturally
 through electrostatic processes.


 When these dust bunnies drift onto the 5 micron micro particles, the micro
 particles use dipole vibration to feed power into these NAE inside the dust
 bunnies.


 I deeply regret that Ed Storms cannot comprehend this simple process. It
 would be better for LENR if he did.












 On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote:

 Bob, temperature is not the source of cracks or have any role in their
 function. Temperature changes the rate at which hydrogen is delivered to
 the crack. It is important to understand the role of each variable. You can
 find an explanation at http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/StormsEexplaining.pdf
 .

 Ed Storms

 On Mar 22, 2014, at 1:04 PM, Bob Cook wrote:

   Ed--

 Engineering resonances associated with any given crack characteristic
 associated with LENR activation may help expand the useful  crack
 population.  Rossi seems to use temperature as a control.

 Bob
  *From:* Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com
 *Sent:* Saturday, March 22, 2014 10:46 AM
 *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
 *Cc:* Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com
 *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:2 Modes of the FPE

 Yes, getting a wide variety of sizes is easy. Getting enough of the right
 size in this distribution is the problem. Only a few of the right size will
 not give enough energy to be detected. When radiation or tritium is used to
 detect the occurrence of LENR, the effect can be seen using fewer active
 sites.  However, these methods hav e not been used very often, probably
 because the tools and skill are not common.

 Cracks either want to grow larger or sinter and disappear.  As a result,
 production of LENR is unstable.  This makes the effect occur for brief
 times, but not long enough to be sure LENR is actually happening rather
 than a random event.

 Ed Stormss
  On Mar 22, 2014, at 11:28 AM, James Bowery wrote:




 On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote:


   Based on my theory, the active material are nano-cracks. Making these
 at the require size is the challenge. Cracks can be made many different
 ways, but getting the right size is the problem.

 Might there be a technique that generates a wide distribution of crack
 sizes?










Re: [Vo]:Re: 2 Modes of the FPE

2014-03-22 Thread Axil Axil
More...

The Rossi reaction is a two step operation where the mouse produces NAEs
and the Cat consumes these NAEs that are mobile one currents of hydrogen.

How else can it work???


On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, a guess but a good guess. Rossi's mouse is stimulating the Cat with
 something that floats on a hydrogen gas current and whose production is
 controlled through the application of heat.

 Rossi solved his control problem by separating dust bunnies production in
 one unit that has a very low Q and is not subject to  run away
 reaction; independent of  a very reactive high Q unit (the Cat) that is
 essentially supercritical.  The Cat just consumes these dust particles
 vigorously, but this stage cannot produce dust bunnies to cause a positive
 feedback runaway reaction through a direct thermal connection.

 It is so obvious and so simple.


 On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote:

 Axil, how do you know how I produce the NAE. I do not know this and
 neither of us knows how Rossi does this.  Your guesses are not useful.

 I can comprehend the process you describe. I just do not believe it. Do
 you see the difference?

 Ed Storms

 On Mar 22, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Axil Axil wrote:

 There is more than one way to skin a cat. LENR active cracks can be
 produced in more than one way. The way Rossi produces NAE is different than
 the way Ed Storms produces NAE, and Rossi is far more productive and robust
 at it.


 Rossi produces NAE with his mouse which is a nano-particle generator.
 Nano-particles are attracted to each other and form fractal arrogates.
 These arrogates are like dust bunnies that you find under the bed. They
 enclose countless nano-cavities that serve as NAE.


 Here is pictures of such a fractal abrogate:


 http://ej.iop.org/images/1367-2630/11/6/063030/Full/nj33fig1.jpg


 Note the presence of numerous nano-cavities that develops naturally
 through electrostatic processes.


 When these dust bunnies drift onto the 5 micron micro particles, the
 micro particles use dipole vibration to feed power into these NAE inside
 the dust bunnies.


 I deeply regret that Ed Storms cannot comprehend this simple process. It
 would be better for LENR if he did.












 On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote:

 Bob, temperature is not the source of cracks or have any role in their
 function. Temperature changes the rate at which hydrogen is delivered to
 the crack. It is important to understand the role of each variable. You can
 find an explanation at
 http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/StormsEexplaining.pdf.

 Ed Storms

 On Mar 22, 2014, at 1:04 PM, Bob Cook wrote:

   Ed--

 Engineering resonances associated with any given crack characteristic
 associated with LENR activation may help expand the useful  crack
 population.  Rossi seems to use temperature as a control.

 Bob
  *From:* Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com
 *Sent:* Saturday, March 22, 2014 10:46 AM
 *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
 *Cc:* Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com
 *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:2 Modes of the FPE

 Yes, getting a wide variety of sizes is easy. Getting enough of the
 right size in this distribution is the problem. Only a few of the right
 size will not give enough energy to be detected. When radiation or tritium
 is used to detect the occurrence of LENR, the effect can be seen using
 fewer active sites.  However, these methods hav e not been used very often,
 probably because the tools and skill are not common.

 Cracks either want to grow larger or sinter and disappear.  As a result,
 production of LENR is unstable.  This makes the effect occur for brief
 times, but not long enough to be sure LENR is actually happening rather
 than a random event.

 Ed Stormss
  On Mar 22, 2014, at 11:28 AM, James Bowery wrote:




 On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Edmund Storms 
 stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote:


   Based on my theory, the active material are nano-cracks. Making
 these at the require size is the challenge. Cracks can be made many
 different ways, but getting the right size is the problem.

 Might there be a technique that generates a wide distribution of crack
 sizes?