Re: [Vo]:torsion
Jones- That a very interesting summary article about torsion fields, a phenomena with which I was not familiar. Thanks. The information (data) collected from stars that appear to be transmitted at a rate many times the speed of light is very significant. Why is this not reported in this country? Research from the United States is conspicuously missing--suggests that the technology is a black technology. What do you think? It looks like Parhhomov is quite aware of the spin-torsion field connection. And this suggests a spin coupling in the these LENR reactors that has not been discussed to my knowledge. Also the connection with high electric and magnetic fields associated with geometry is interesting. SPP's of course produce high magnetic fields (and, if your believe the article, large torsion fields with influence on spin/angular momentum.) You could expect such from WIKIPEDIA. I am beginning to think that WIPIPEDIA is a US govt. sponsored scheme along with the US Patent Office to keep black projects black. (That's the most cynical I have been this year.) Bob - Original Message - From: Jones Beene To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 10:22 AM Subject: [Vo]:torsion For Terry and anyone who followed the mainly Russian claims on torsion fields many years ago, check out the last name in the second paragraph here: http://amasci.com/freenrg/tors/tors3.html Here is the Wiki entry, which is a bit unfair in lumping the good and bad science - together to make it look all bad. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torsion_field_%28pseudoscience%29
RE: [Vo]:torsion
This technology started out with a bad reputation in the USA since it was carrying cold-war baggage. There were some notable scams. The good was swallowed up by the bad. It's too bad because it is similar to spin coupling phenomena and SPP, which is related. Anytime something comes along with FTL as part of the package, watch out. If you want to be taken seriously with any new technology - never, ever claim a light-speed anomaly. From: Bob Cook Jones- That a very interesting summary article about torsion fields, a phenomena with which I was not familiar. Thanks. The information (data) collected from stars that appear to be transmitted at a rate many times the speed of light is very significant. Why is this not reported in this country? Research from the United States is conspicuously missing--suggests that the technology is a black technology. What do you think? It looks like Parhhomov is quite aware of the spin-torsion field connection. And this suggests a spin coupling in the these LENR reactors that has not been discussed to my knowledge. Also the connection with high electric and magnetic fields associated with geometry is interesting. SPP's of course produce high magnetic fields (and, if your believe the article, large torsion fields with influence on spin/angular momentum.) You could expect such from WIKIPEDIA. I am beginning to think that WIPIPEDIA is a US govt. sponsored scheme along with the US Patent Office to keep black projects black. (That's the most cynical I have been this year.) Bob - Original Message - From: Jones Beene mailto:jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 10:22 AM Subject: [Vo]:torsion For Terry and anyone who followed the mainly Russian claims on torsion fields many years ago, check out the last name in the second paragraph here: http://amasci.com/freenrg/tors/tors3.html Here is the Wiki entry, which is a bit unfair in lumping the good and bad science - together to make it look all bad. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torsion_field_%28pseudoscience%29
Re: [Vo]:torsion
Jones-- I assume the experiments with telescopes and the determination of the future position of stars assuming the FTL transmission of the torsion field were correct. Has there been confirmation or rebuttal of this effect to your knowledge. I guess the Russians could have fudged the prediction of future star positions, but if they were wrong, this should be apparent by now. Also the Wikipedia article notes that the Russian govt. allocated a lot of money to the research seems, if true, to be confirmation that there is something to the torsion field concept. Do you know of any reports stemming from that research? Did the device for measuring the torsion field ever get used in a telescope outside of Russia? Bob - Original Message - From: Jones Beene To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 12:36 PM Subject: RE: [Vo]:torsion This technology started out with a bad reputation in the USA since it was carrying cold-war baggage. There were some notable scams. The good was swallowed up by the bad. It's too bad because it is similar to spin coupling phenomena and SPP, which is related. Anytime something comes along with FTL as part of the package, watch out. If you want to be taken seriously with any new technology - never, ever claim a light-speed anomaly. From: Bob Cook Jones- That a very interesting summary article about torsion fields, a phenomena with which I was not familiar. Thanks. The information (data) collected from stars that appear to be transmitted at a rate many times the speed of light is very significant. Why is this not reported in this country? Research from the United States is conspicuously missing--suggests that the technology is a black technology. What do you think? It looks like Parhhomov is quite aware of the spin-torsion field connection. And this suggests a spin coupling in the these LENR reactors that has not been discussed to my knowledge. Also the connection with high electric and magnetic fields associated with geometry is interesting. SPP's of course produce high magnetic fields (and, if your believe the article, large torsion fields with influence on spin/angular momentum.) You could expect such from WIKIPEDIA. I am beginning to think that WIPIPEDIA is a US govt. sponsored scheme along with the US Patent Office to keep black projects black. (That's the most cynical I have been this year.) Bob - Original Message - From: Jones Beene To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 10:22 AM Subject: [Vo]:torsion For Terry and anyone who followed the mainly Russian claims on torsion fields many years ago, check out the last name in the second paragraph here: http://amasci.com/freenrg/tors/tors3.html Here is the Wiki entry, which is a bit unfair in lumping the good and bad science - together to make it look all bad. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torsion_field_%28pseudoscience%29
Re: [Vo]:torsion
On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: For Terry and anyone who followed the mainly Russian claims on “torsion fields” many years ago, check out the last name in the second paragraph here Doh! Thank goodness word processors make it easy to edit your CV. Few speak of Puthoff once being a Scientologist. :)
Re: [Vo]:Torsion field physics
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 8:13 PM, thomas malloy [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I've been researching how to twist space and time, which lead to torsion field physics and Nicoli Kozyrev. Among his novel theories is the idea that the Sun produces energy by twisting space time, now if I can just figure out how to miniaturize it. eh? This webpage has an article on Kozyrev's theories http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=95ltemid=36 This website talks about how the structure of Chitin might contribute to anti gravity http://www.keelynet.com/greb/greb.htmhttp://www.keelynet.com/greb/greb.htm Wait. As long as the Maxwell stress tensor is antisymmetric or has such a component there will be torque. General relativity can not make torque on anything which does not have a quadrupole moment. What does this imply on your small scale? David -- David Jonsson Sweden phone callto:+46703000370
