RE: RESEND, ascii, Superluminal

2004-12-20 Thread Horace Heffner
At 2:55 AM 12/20/4, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Dear Horace,
>Thanks for the response. This is my initial foray into the area. I disagree
>about the polarizing beam splitter - it transmits, not absorbs. Losses and
>attenuation can be minimised. Yes signal will be subject to noise but this
>can be error corrected out. As long as some signal get through with
>recognisable humps and troughs then we can discern the bittage (to coin a
>term) of the signal.
>Remi.

I suggest that before going to the trouble to apply "bittage" to your
signal you simply try to get your interference pattern at a distance.  It's
the only prudent thing to do financially speaking.  You'll save a lot of
money when you find out it isn't there.  8^)

Regards,

Horace Heffner  




RE: RESEND, ascii, Superluminal

2004-12-20 Thread R . O . Cornwall
Dear Horace,
Thanks for the response. This is my initial foray into the area. I disagree
about the polarizing beam splitter - it transmits, not absorbs. Losses and
attenuation can be minimised. Yes signal will be subject to noise but this
can be error corrected out. As long as some signal get through with
recognisable humps and troughs then we can discern the bittage (to coin a
term) of the signal.
Remi.

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Subject: Re: RESEND, ascii, Superluminal

At 6:59 AM 12/17/4, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
>I will upload this stuff to the university website if it is any good or
>leads somewhere, also once it is fixed and I can upload stuff again.
> 
>http://www.corn-wall.freeserve.co.uk/home.htm
>or more directly
> 
>http://www.corn-wall.freeserve.co.uk/Superluminal_Letter.pdf


The problem with obtaining interference patterns at a distant location
appears to me to be at least in part a problem of attenuation.   When a
member of an entangled pair of photons interacts with matter, especially in
a potentially polarizing interaction, the photons lose entanglement.  An
entangled photon that goes through a polarizing filter, for example, loses
any prior entanglements.  The attenuation problem is thus two-fold.  First,
photons are just plain lost to absorbtion.  Secondly, of the small
percentage that arrives, many have lost entanglement and thus act randomly.
For these reasons, it is necessary to do coincidence counting to establish
the inerference pattern and this requires an alternative channel.  If this
alternative channel can communicate faster than light, then no other
channel is needed.  It appears that using intermediary photon-atom
entanglement at Bob's (receiving) location does not circumvent this
problem, and in fact complicates things because then even coincidence
counting is no longer reliable.

Regards,

Horace Heffner  



Re: RESEND, ascii, Superluminal

2004-12-18 Thread Horace Heffner
At 6:59 AM 12/17/4, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
>I will upload this stuff to the university website if it is any good or
>leads somewhere, also once it is fixed and I can upload stuff again.
> 
>http://www.corn-wall.freeserve.co.uk/home.htm
>or more directly
> 
>http://www.corn-wall.freeserve.co.uk/Superluminal_Letter.pdf


The problem with obtaining interference patterns at a distant location
appears to me to be at least in part a problem of attenuation.   When a
member of an entangled pair of photons interacts with matter, especially in
a potentially polarizing interaction, the photons lose entanglement.  An
entangled photon that goes through a polarizing filter, for example, loses
any prior entanglements.  The attenuation problem is thus two-fold.  First,
photons are just plain lost to absorbtion.  Secondly, of the small
percentage that arrives, many have lost entanglement and thus act randomly.
For these reasons, it is necessary to do coincidence counting to establish
the inerference pattern and this requires an alternative channel.  If this
alternative channel can communicate faster than light, then no other
channel is needed.  It appears that using intermediary photon-atom
entanglement at Bob's (receiving) location does not circumvent this
problem, and in fact complicates things because then even coincidence
counting is no longer reliable.

Regards,

Horace Heffner