Re: [vox-tech] How slim can Win98 go?
On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 04:32:52PM -0800, Ryan wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I was poking around the net looking for a way to set my laptop's contrast, > and I found http://www.informatik.uni-kiel.de/~fst/linux_armada_e500.html . > It says that power saving hotkey works in linux, so I could set my cpu to 250 > and run for nearly 3 hours. > > However --- these options need to be set in windows, the bios doesn't have > the options in it's menu. :( Is your laptop recent. You may be able to set these options using ACPI. Support in Linux is fairly recent. The recent Sony VAIO laptops have moved much of their functionality over to ACPI. ACPI is going to allow for some really cool stuff, not just on laptops. It allows the kernel to take control of hardware. I have heard of other mfg's doing the same as well. http://sourceforge.net/projects/acpi/ brian -- Brian Lavender http://www.brie.com/brian/ ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
RE: [vox-tech] regarding config issues wiht Armada e500 (was win98)
Doesn't Compaq systems let you modify them from bootable Compaq CD Roms? How old is this laptop and have you tried Compaq's support site for this? The have an email response system where you ask a question and they try and get you a response in 24 hours. It has run about 85% accurate on some server issues, which is not bad for email support correct on first answer. -sp -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ryan Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 8:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [vox-tech] How slim can Win98 go? -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, February 28 2002 08:14 pm, Mark K. Kim wrote: > You could also get a laptop HD from someone. Or an old laptop. Just use > the HD, then switch it back when you're done. You don't even need to buy > it, just borrow it, if you can find someone with an old laptop laying > around. I should have thought of that. > Also, many BIOS configuration utilities work under DOS, so you don't > necessarily need Windows, but just the DOS (fits on a floppy...) That > depends on the utility, though, I suppose. These are Windows utils. > -Mark > > On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, Ryan wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > hrm, oh, idea! > > > > IDE => laptop drive adaptor + old HD > > > > Anyone know how much the adaptors cost? Better yet, anyone got one I can > > borrow? > > > > My laptop HD is only a 6 gigger, so I'm a bit cramped to waste 400 MB on > > a bios configuration utility. > > > > On Thursday, February 28 2002 07:33 pm, Mark K. Kim wrote: > > > I've installed a pretty comfortably bare Windows95 that took up about > > > 350MB. Looking at my current Windows98 partition (another comfortably > > > bare installation), it looks like just the Windows part is taking up > > > about 500MB; but this partition's been around for several months so I'm > > > sure there's lots of junk in c:\windows and the registry. > > > > > > -Mark > > > > > > On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, Ryan wrote: > > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > > > I was poking around the net looking for a way to set my laptop's > > > > contrast, and I found > > > > http://www.informatik.uni-kiel.de/~fst/linux_armada_e500.html . It > > > > says that power saving hotkey works in linux, so I could set my cpu > > > > to 250 and run for nearly 3 hours. > > > > > > > > However --- these options need to be set in windows, the bios doesn't > > > > have the options in it's menu. :( > > > > > > > > Anyway, does anyone know what the bare minimum install for windows 98 > > > > is? - -- > > > > No Microsoft products were used in any way for the creation of this > > > > message. PGP Public key at > > > > http://mother.com/~ryan/ryan_at_mother_dot_com.asc It is also on the > > > > servers: Key ID 0x72177BC7 > > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > > > > Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) > > > > Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > > > > > > > > iD8DBQE8fsw0Ed9E83IXe8cRAnSpAKDBphWoRnTmjgOoh0oQh0woh1i5dwCgyER6 > > > > CBrtKaS/+Z/F3FiPiQRUbn4= > > > > =aRcz > > > > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > > ___ > > > > vox-tech mailing list > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech > > > > - -- > > No Microsoft products were used in any way for the creation of this > > message. PGP Public key at > > http://mother.com/~ryan/ryan_at_mother_dot_com.asc It is also on the > > servers: Key ID 0x72177BC7 > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > > Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) > > Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > > > > iD8DBQE8fv1DEd9E83IXe8cRAqYhAKCo+u5agZwL5tQUR3obT/ZU45ucEgCgn7gH > > ARKwE71JXCI+581WWaYYLF4= > > =m5kr > > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > ___ > > vox-tech mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech - -- No Microsoft products were used in any way for the creation of this message. PGP Public key at http://mother.com/~ryan/ryan_at_mother_dot_com.asc It is also on the servers: Key ID 0x72177BC7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8fwCTEd9E83IXe8cRAgUyAKCm8R/KyDBd1dSTXjgThNWfzEAmdQCfTfxZ jYWO7aLl4G/z65x8AU/PL6k= =w1l0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] How is lugod.org put together?
i think this is one of the best ideas anyone has come up with a long time. however, i *think* it's been suggested before. if it's not appropriate for lugod (bill's call, not mine), i'd be happy to host dotfile pages on dirac.org. although -- wait. isn't there a dotfile.org already? hmm.. couldn't find it. i could've sworn there was a website devoted to dotfiles. but that doesn't mean we couldn't host our own! pete begin Matt Roper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Speaking of the website, does anyone else think a "contributed config > files" section would be really useful? A couple of months ago people > were passing around their .muttrc files on this list and I was able to > pick up a lot of useful tricks by viewing how other people had > configured Mutt. A lot of the best programs available for Linux really > require good configuration files to unlock their true power (Vim, Mutt, > Emacs, etc.), so I think a repository of sample config files would be > very useful for both beginners and experts. I think the main issue > would be coming up with a good method for submitting config files . . . > someone would have to take the time to write and test a script to handle > submissions. > > What does everyone else think? > > > Matt > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 09:19:35PM -0800, nbs wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 10:22:47PM -0600, Jay Strauss wrote: > > > Pete et al, > > > > > > The lugod site looks (and works) nicely. > > > > Thanks! :) > > > > > > > What technologies are you using? > > > That is, how and who did your graphics. > > > > Marianne Waage using Photoshop and me using The Gimp. > > > > > > > Do you use some sort of a web > > > templating system, lugod has a similar look to other open source sites. > > > > I rolled our own PHP code for the look-and-feel... > > > > > > > Is the mailing list major domo? What do you use to archive and search the > > > mailing list? Anything I'm missing > > > > I believe the lists are running Mailman. The search engine > > is Mnogo. These were set up by Pete Salzman and > > Henry House. > > > > Thanks! :) > > > > -bill! > > ___ > > vox-tech mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech > > -- > > * > * Matt Roper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* > * http://www.mattrope.com * > * PGP Key: http://www.mattrope.com/mattrope.asc * > * > ___ > vox-tech mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech -- Enron..safe legal abortion..civil liberty..repealing ICBM treaty..deficit.. What's worse? Screwing an intern or screwing an entire country? PGP Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] How is lugod.org put together?
Speaking of the website, does anyone else think a "contributed config files" section would be really useful? A couple of months ago people were passing around their .muttrc files on this list and I was able to pick up a lot of useful tricks by viewing how other people had configured Mutt. A lot of the best programs available for Linux really require good configuration files to unlock their true power (Vim, Mutt, Emacs, etc.), so I think a repository of sample config files would be very useful for both beginners and experts. I think the main issue would be coming up with a good method for submitting config files . . . someone would have to take the time to write and test a script to handle submissions. What does everyone else think? Matt On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 09:19:35PM -0800, nbs wrote: > On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 10:22:47PM -0600, Jay Strauss wrote: > > Pete et al, > > > > The lugod site looks (and works) nicely. > > Thanks! :) > > > > What technologies are you using? > > That is, how and who did your graphics. > > Marianne Waage using Photoshop and me using The Gimp. > > > > Do you use some sort of a web > > templating system, lugod has a similar look to other open source sites. > > I rolled our own PHP code for the look-and-feel... > > > > Is the mailing list major domo? What do you use to archive and search the > > mailing list? Anything I'm missing > > I believe the lists are running Mailman. The search engine > is Mnogo. These were set up by Pete Salzman and > Henry House. > > Thanks! :) > > -bill! > ___ > vox-tech mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech -- * * Matt Roper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* * http://www.mattrope.com * * PGP Key: http://www.mattrope.com/mattrope.asc * * ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] How slim can Win98 go?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, February 28 2002 08:14 pm, Mark K. Kim wrote: > You could also get a laptop HD from someone. Or an old laptop. Just use > the HD, then switch it back when you're done. You don't even need to buy > it, just borrow it, if you can find someone with an old laptop laying > around. I should have thought of that. > Also, many BIOS configuration utilities work under DOS, so you don't > necessarily need Windows, but just the DOS (fits on a floppy...) That > depends on the utility, though, I suppose. These are Windows utils. > -Mark > > On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, Ryan wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > hrm, oh, idea! > > > > IDE => laptop drive adaptor + old HD > > > > Anyone know how much the adaptors cost? Better yet, anyone got one I can > > borrow? > > > > My laptop HD is only a 6 gigger, so I'm a bit cramped to waste 400 MB on > > a bios configuration utility. > > > > On Thursday, February 28 2002 07:33 pm, Mark K. Kim wrote: > > > I've installed a pretty comfortably bare Windows95 that took up about > > > 350MB. Looking at my current Windows98 partition (another comfortably > > > bare installation), it looks like just the Windows part is taking up > > > about 500MB; but this partition's been around for several months so I'm > > > sure there's lots of junk in c:\windows and the registry. > > > > > > -Mark > > > > > > On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, Ryan wrote: > > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > > > I was poking around the net looking for a way to set my laptop's > > > > contrast, and I found > > > > http://www.informatik.uni-kiel.de/~fst/linux_armada_e500.html . It > > > > says that power saving hotkey works in linux, so I could set my cpu > > > > to 250 and run for nearly 3 hours. > > > > > > > > However --- these options need to be set in windows, the bios doesn't > > > > have the options in it's menu. :( > > > > > > > > Anyway, does anyone know what the bare minimum install for windows 98 > > > > is? - -- > > > > No Microsoft products were used in any way for the creation of this > > > > message. PGP Public key at > > > > http://mother.com/~ryan/ryan_at_mother_dot_com.asc It is also on the > > > > servers: Key ID 0x72177BC7 > > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > > > > Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) > > > > Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > > > > > > > > iD8DBQE8fsw0Ed9E83IXe8cRAnSpAKDBphWoRnTmjgOoh0oQh0woh1i5dwCgyER6 > > > > CBrtKaS/+Z/F3FiPiQRUbn4= > > > > =aRcz > > > > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > > ___ > > > > vox-tech mailing list > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech > > > > - -- > > No Microsoft products were used in any way for the creation of this > > message. PGP Public key at > > http://mother.com/~ryan/ryan_at_mother_dot_com.asc It is also on the > > servers: Key ID 0x72177BC7 > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > > Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) > > Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > > > > iD8DBQE8fv1DEd9E83IXe8cRAqYhAKCo+u5agZwL5tQUR3obT/ZU45ucEgCgn7gH > > ARKwE71JXCI+581WWaYYLF4= > > =m5kr > > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > ___ > > vox-tech mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech - -- No Microsoft products were used in any way for the creation of this message. PGP Public key at http://mother.com/~ryan/ryan_at_mother_dot_com.asc It is also on the servers: Key ID 0x72177BC7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8fwCTEd9E83IXe8cRAgUyAKCm8R/KyDBd1dSTXjgThNWfzEAmdQCfTfxZ jYWO7aLl4G/z65x8AU/PL6k= =w1l0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] How slim can Win98 go?
You could also get a laptop HD from someone. Or an old laptop. Just use the HD, then switch it back when you're done. You don't even need to buy it, just borrow it, if you can find someone with an old laptop laying around. Also, many BIOS configuration utilities work under DOS, so you don't necessarily need Windows, but just the DOS (fits on a floppy...) That depends on the utility, though, I suppose. -Mark On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, Ryan wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > hrm, oh, idea! > > IDE => laptop drive adaptor + old HD > > Anyone know how much the adaptors cost? Better yet, anyone got one I can > borrow? > > My laptop HD is only a 6 gigger, so I'm a bit cramped to waste 400 MB on a > bios configuration utility. > > On Thursday, February 28 2002 07:33 pm, Mark K. Kim wrote: > > I've installed a pretty comfortably bare Windows95 that took up about > > 350MB. Looking at my current Windows98 partition (another comfortably > > bare installation), it looks like just the Windows part is taking up about > > 500MB; but this partition's been around for several months so I'm sure > > there's lots of junk in c:\windows and the registry. > > > > -Mark > > > > On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, Ryan wrote: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > I was poking around the net looking for a way to set my laptop's > > > contrast, and I found > > > http://www.informatik.uni-kiel.de/~fst/linux_armada_e500.html . It says > > > that power saving hotkey works in linux, so I could set my cpu to 250 and > > > run for nearly 3 hours. > > > > > > However --- these options need to be set in windows, the bios doesn't > > > have the options in it's menu. :( > > > > > > Anyway, does anyone know what the bare minimum install for windows 98 is? > > > - -- > > > No Microsoft products were used in any way for the creation of this > > > message. PGP Public key at > > > http://mother.com/~ryan/ryan_at_mother_dot_com.asc It is also on the > > > servers: Key ID 0x72177BC7 > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > > > Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) > > > Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > > > > > > iD8DBQE8fsw0Ed9E83IXe8cRAnSpAKDBphWoRnTmjgOoh0oQh0woh1i5dwCgyER6 > > > CBrtKaS/+Z/F3FiPiQRUbn4= > > > =aRcz > > > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > ___ > > > vox-tech mailing list > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech > > - -- > No Microsoft products were used in any way for the creation of this message. > PGP Public key at http://mother.com/~ryan/ryan_at_mother_dot_com.asc > It is also on the servers: Key ID 0x72177BC7 > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > > iD8DBQE8fv1DEd9E83IXe8cRAqYhAKCo+u5agZwL5tQUR3obT/ZU45ucEgCgn7gH > ARKwE71JXCI+581WWaYYLF4= > =m5kr > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > ___ > vox-tech mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech > -- Mark K. Kim http://www.cbreak.org/ PGP key available upon request. ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] How slim can Win98 go?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hrm, oh, idea! IDE => laptop drive adaptor + old HD Anyone know how much the adaptors cost? Better yet, anyone got one I can borrow? My laptop HD is only a 6 gigger, so I'm a bit cramped to waste 400 MB on a bios configuration utility. On Thursday, February 28 2002 07:33 pm, Mark K. Kim wrote: > I've installed a pretty comfortably bare Windows95 that took up about > 350MB. Looking at my current Windows98 partition (another comfortably > bare installation), it looks like just the Windows part is taking up about > 500MB; but this partition's been around for several months so I'm sure > there's lots of junk in c:\windows and the registry. > > -Mark > > On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, Ryan wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > I was poking around the net looking for a way to set my laptop's > > contrast, and I found > > http://www.informatik.uni-kiel.de/~fst/linux_armada_e500.html . It says > > that power saving hotkey works in linux, so I could set my cpu to 250 and > > run for nearly 3 hours. > > > > However --- these options need to be set in windows, the bios doesn't > > have the options in it's menu. :( > > > > Anyway, does anyone know what the bare minimum install for windows 98 is? > > - -- > > No Microsoft products were used in any way for the creation of this > > message. PGP Public key at > > http://mother.com/~ryan/ryan_at_mother_dot_com.asc It is also on the > > servers: Key ID 0x72177BC7 > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > > Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) > > Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > > > > iD8DBQE8fsw0Ed9E83IXe8cRAnSpAKDBphWoRnTmjgOoh0oQh0woh1i5dwCgyER6 > > CBrtKaS/+Z/F3FiPiQRUbn4= > > =aRcz > > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > ___ > > vox-tech mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech - -- No Microsoft products were used in any way for the creation of this message. PGP Public key at http://mother.com/~ryan/ryan_at_mother_dot_com.asc It is also on the servers: Key ID 0x72177BC7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8fv1DEd9E83IXe8cRAqYhAKCo+u5agZwL5tQUR3obT/ZU45ucEgCgn7gH ARKwE71JXCI+581WWaYYLF4= =m5kr -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] latex question
Let's see...
::test::
nope!
-Mark
On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
> i'm not home right now, so i can't test it, but just thinking out
> loud...
>
> doesn't \char93 get digested in latex's gullet and become the same kind
> of token that [ would become?
>
> did that make any sense?
>
> pete
>
>
> begin Mark K. Kim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > I'm home now. It's:
> >
> >\char93
> >
> > The "XXX" is actually decimal, with a varying width, although octal may
> > work if you stick in a leading zero.
> >
> > -Mark
> >
> > On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, Mark K. Kim wrote:
> >
> > > I'm not sitting in front of my computer, but there's a command to print
> > > the character by its ASCII code. I think it's something like \charXXX,
> > > where XXX is the octal number (of all things...) of the ASCII code. I
> > > found the command in the TeXbook somewhere if you can find it... otherwise
> > > I'll post a follow up when I get home (I have it written down somewhere.)
> > >
> > > -Mark
> > >
> > > On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
> > >
> > > > how does one stick a ']' within the \item[] of a description
> > > > environment?
> > > >
> > > > like:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > \begin{description}
> > > >
> > > > \item[int function(int variable[])]
> > > > This function does amazing and wonderous things.
> > > >
> > > > \end{description}
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > pete
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Re: [vox-tech] How slim can Win98 go?
I've installed a pretty comfortably bare Windows95 that took up about 350MB. Looking at my current Windows98 partition (another comfortably bare installation), it looks like just the Windows part is taking up about 500MB; but this partition's been around for several months so I'm sure there's lots of junk in c:\windows and the registry. -Mark On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, Ryan wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I was poking around the net looking for a way to set my laptop's contrast, > and I found http://www.informatik.uni-kiel.de/~fst/linux_armada_e500.html . > It says that power saving hotkey works in linux, so I could set my cpu to 250 > and run for nearly 3 hours. > > However --- these options need to be set in windows, the bios doesn't have > the options in it's menu. :( > > Anyway, does anyone know what the bare minimum install for windows 98 is? > - -- > No Microsoft products were used in any way for the creation of this message. > PGP Public key at http://mother.com/~ryan/ryan_at_mother_dot_com.asc > It is also on the servers: Key ID 0x72177BC7 > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > > iD8DBQE8fsw0Ed9E83IXe8cRAnSpAKDBphWoRnTmjgOoh0oQh0woh1i5dwCgyER6 > CBrtKaS/+Z/F3FiPiQRUbn4= > =aRcz > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > ___ > vox-tech mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech > -- Mark K. Kim http://www.cbreak.org/ PGP key available upon request. ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Lean win98
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Re: [vox-tech] latex question
i'm not home right now, so i can't test it, but just thinking out
loud...
doesn't \char93 get digested in latex's gullet and become the same kind
of token that [ would become?
did that make any sense?
pete
begin Mark K. Kim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I'm home now. It's:
>
>\char93
>
> The "XXX" is actually decimal, with a varying width, although octal may
> work if you stick in a leading zero.
>
> -Mark
>
> On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, Mark K. Kim wrote:
>
> > I'm not sitting in front of my computer, but there's a command to print
> > the character by its ASCII code. I think it's something like \charXXX,
> > where XXX is the octal number (of all things...) of the ASCII code. I
> > found the command in the TeXbook somewhere if you can find it... otherwise
> > I'll post a follow up when I get home (I have it written down somewhere.)
> >
> > -Mark
> >
> > On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
> >
> > > how does one stick a ']' within the \item[] of a description
> > > environment?
> > >
> > > like:
> > >
> > >
> > > \begin{description}
> > >
> > > \item[int function(int variable[])]
> > > This function does amazing and wonderous things.
> > >
> > > \end{description}
> > >
> > >
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Re: [vox-tech] latex question
I'm home now. It's:
\char93
The "XXX" is actually decimal, with a varying width, although octal may
work if you stick in a leading zero.
-Mark
On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, Mark K. Kim wrote:
> I'm not sitting in front of my computer, but there's a command to print
> the character by its ASCII code. I think it's something like \charXXX,
> where XXX is the octal number (of all things...) of the ASCII code. I
> found the command in the TeXbook somewhere if you can find it... otherwise
> I'll post a follow up when I get home (I have it written down somewhere.)
>
> -Mark
>
> On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
>
> > how does one stick a ']' within the \item[] of a description
> > environment?
> >
> > like:
> >
> >
> > \begin{description}
> >
> > \item[int function(int variable[])]
> > This function does amazing and wonderous things.
> >
> > \end{description}
> >
> >
> > pete
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>
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[vox-tech] Lean win98
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Re: [vox-tech] quality of Docbook -> HTML conversion?
begin Mark K. Kim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Keywords: LaTeX, Docbook, HTML, converters, conversion > > Speaking of LaTeX... > > I'm not very satisified with the LaTeX->HTML converters' qualities. yeah; i totally agree with you on this. > I was > wondering how the Docbook -> HTML conversion compares with the LaTeX -> > HTML conversion? it's ... ok. no great shakes. i think i'm spoiled permanently by latex, but i've never really been totally happy with docbook->anything. don't expect to be much happier (if at all). > I don't care about math equations and the fancy stuff; you can't even do that stuff in docbook... pete "i use it alot but i ain't happy about it" salzman ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] How slim can Win98 go?
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[vox-tech] quality of Docbook -> HTML conversion?
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Re: [vox-tech] latex question
I'm not sitting in front of my computer, but there's a command to print
the character by its ASCII code. I think it's something like \charXXX,
where XXX is the octal number (of all things...) of the ASCII code. I
found the command in the TeXbook somewhere if you can find it... otherwise
I'll post a follow up when I get home (I have it written down somewhere.)
-Mark
On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
> how does one stick a ']' within the \item[] of a description
> environment?
>
> like:
>
>
> \begin{description}
>
> \item[int function(int variable[])]
> This function does amazing and wonderous things.
>
> \end{description}
>
>
> pete
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[vox-tech] latex question
how does one stick a ']' within the \item[] of a description
environment?
like:
\begin{description}
\item[int function(int variable[])]
This function does amazing and wonderous things.
\end{description}
pete
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Re: [vox-tech] another gcc question (Branch Delay Slots)
#Received: from www.livepenguin.com (dcn251-11.dcn.davis.ca.us [168.150.251.11]) #by moria.simons-clan.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id g1SIe7s26765 #for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 13:40:07 -0500 #Received: from www.livepenguin.com (livepenguin [127.0.0.1]) #by www.livepenguin.com (Postfix) with ESMTP #id B925C662CD; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 23:32:01 -0800 (PST) Ack, I was waiting for my first message to clear the list before sending the second one... almost 11 hour list delay? (7:30 to 18:40) On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 02:29:24AM -0500, Mike Simons wrote: > > so what exactly are we optimizing here? > > Just theory... possible advantages: > - Making it more likely to be able to fill all of the branch delay slots > on a machine with many slots. (see other post on subject). With modern pipelining CPU's conditional branches are expensive... because you have to "stall the processor" to let all instructions upto the condition test complete execution before you know if you are going to branch or not. There are a couple of ways a branch can be made less expensive one method (what MIPS does) "branch delay slots": when you call a branch the X instructions directly following a branch are executed regardless of if the branch is taken or not. This keeps the processor doing something even while it waits to see if the branch will be taken... if there is nothing to fill the slot a do_nothing instruction needs to be given (NOP). Another method which I think is used in older Intel CPU's is "speculative execution"... in it's most basic form the processor guesses that the branch is taken or not and just continues running the instructions on one side of the branch, but keeping enough state of what needs to be "undone" if when the test condition result is actually finished execution the machine realizes it took the wrong branch... note that mis-prediction of a branch is often *very* expensive to "clean up". In modern processors you can take this much further "parallel speculative execution" and dedicate *HUGE* amounts of chip space to be able to run *both* sides of the branch operation in parallel and then "forget" the results of the side that shouldn't have been run once you know the outcome of the conditional test... some processors can even nest this a few levels so that a branch who's both children also split could in theory not stall the processor. Now if you have a smart compiler (that knows how to reorder), and the code in question has operations which can be used to fill the branch delay slots, and the chip builders don't want to waste lots of chip space to be able to speculatively execute ...Then branch delay slots are *clearly* superior just stalling the processor. So _if_ you have a bunch of branch delay slots, and a count unknown loop that runs many times, everything else above, and three planets align, then -unroll-all will help (maybe even a bunch), because it allows the compiler to make much better use of the branch delay slots. so this is my attempt to explain Branch Delay Slots === It has been a while and I learned MIPS assembly so I would be amazed if the sample below have the correct syntax... I do remember the MIPS I used had a single branch delay slot... but there is no reason a there couldn't be 10 slots following a branch for a more complex processor, it's just a concept. Now there are a bunch of rules about what can be used to fill the BDS, like you can't put anything that modifies the register being tested by the conditional branch... and I also don't remember the details on what can fill a BDS... so for example C code like such: for (l = 10; l--l) do_something(); in dumb mode while using a machine with a single branch delay slot: == store $1, 11 // l = 10; label_1: call do_something // do_something(); addi $1, -1 // l--; jnez $1, label_1 // branch loop when $1 not equal to zero nop// this fills the branch delay slot == what ends up running is something like: call do_something addi $1, -1 nop conditional call do_something addi $1, -1 nop conditional /* repeat... */ in smart mode, we shift the add to occupy the branch delay slot, and tweak the loop counter so that the right thing happens: == store $1, 10 // l = 10; label_1: addi $1, -1 // l--; jnez $1, label_1 // loop when $1 not equal to zero call do_something // do_something(); AND fill the BDS == this runs approximately 25% faster, because the slot is filled with something useful... addi $1, -1 call do_something conditional addi $1, -1 call do_something conditional /*
Re: [vox-tech] recursive ftp
Ganesh, I may not understand all the nuances of your request, but you might do well to have a look at unison: http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/ It claims to be capable of synchronizing across Linux, Unix, Solaris, and Windoze platforms. I have only used it to synchronize different linux boxes, but it seems to work very well. It is GPL'ed and relatively configurable. Binaries and source code are available for download. GUI and text-based interfaces are available. It supports ssh and rsh tunnelling as well as socket connections. It's a user level program and does not require suid or root priveleges. I'd be curious to know if this helps. Aaron ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] How is lugod.org put together?
the only tradeoff (for us) is the fact that mailman has no search utility, which is kind of a bummer. mailman is really close to being an all-in-one package. truly a good piece of work. pete begin Rod Roark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I believe Mailman also offers its own list archiving. I'm not what > the tradeoffs are vs. Mnogo. > > -- Rod >http://www.sunsetsystems.com/ > > On Thursday 28 February 2002 05:33, Jay Strauss wrote: > > Thanks Bill, I'm thinking (dreading) I might volunteer to spiff up our > > local Chicago sites: > > www.luni.org > > clug.chicago.il.us > > > > Maybe combine them. Of course being a perl guy, I'd use Mod_Perl (non > > of the php junk :) ). Don't know anything about Mailman or Mnogo, have > > to go read about them now. > > > > Jay > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "nbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 11:19 PM > > Subject: Re: [vox-tech] How is lugod.org put together? > > > > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 10:22:47PM -0600, Jay Strauss wrote: > > > > Pete et al, > > > > > > > > The lugod site looks (and works) nicely. > > > > > > Thanks! :) > > > > > > > What technologies are you using? > > > > That is, how and who did your graphics. > > > > > > Marianne Waage using Photoshop and me using The Gimp. > > > > > > > Do you use some sort of a web > > > > templating system, lugod has a similar look to other open source > > > > sites. > > > > > > I rolled our own PHP code for the look-and-feel... > > > > > > > Is the mailing list major domo? What do you use to archive and > > > > search > > > > the > > > > > > mailing list? Anything I'm missing > > > > > > I believe the lists are running Mailman. The search engine > > > is Mnogo. These were set up by Pete Salzman and > > > Henry House. > > > > > > Thanks! :) > > > > > > -bill! > ___ > vox-tech mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech -- Enron..safe legal abortion..civil liberty..repealing ICBM treaty..deficit.. What's worse? Screwing an intern or screwing an entire country? PGP Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] How is lugod.org put together?
I believe Mailman also offers its own list archiving. I'm not what the tradeoffs are vs. Mnogo. -- Rod http://www.sunsetsystems.com/ On Thursday 28 February 2002 05:33, Jay Strauss wrote: > Thanks Bill, I'm thinking (dreading) I might volunteer to spiff up our > local Chicago sites: > www.luni.org > clug.chicago.il.us > > Maybe combine them. Of course being a perl guy, I'd use Mod_Perl (non > of the php junk :) ). Don't know anything about Mailman or Mnogo, have > to go read about them now. > > Jay > > > - Original Message - > From: "nbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 11:19 PM > Subject: Re: [vox-tech] How is lugod.org put together? > > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 10:22:47PM -0600, Jay Strauss wrote: > > > Pete et al, > > > > > > The lugod site looks (and works) nicely. > > > > Thanks! :) > > > > > What technologies are you using? > > > That is, how and who did your graphics. > > > > Marianne Waage using Photoshop and me using The Gimp. > > > > > Do you use some sort of a web > > > templating system, lugod has a similar look to other open source > > > sites. > > > > I rolled our own PHP code for the look-and-feel... > > > > > Is the mailing list major domo? What do you use to archive and > > > search > > the > > > > mailing list? Anything I'm missing > > > > I believe the lists are running Mailman. The search engine > > is Mnogo. These were set up by Pete Salzman and > > Henry House. > > > > Thanks! :) > > > > -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] How is lugod.org put together?
Thanks Bill, I'm thinking (dreading) I might volunteer to spiff up our local Chicago sites: www.luni.org clug.chicago.il.us Maybe combine them. Of course being a perl guy, I'd use Mod_Perl (non of the php junk :) ). Don't know anything about Mailman or Mnogo, have to go read about them now. Jay - Original Message - From: "nbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 11:19 PM Subject: Re: [vox-tech] How is lugod.org put together? > On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 10:22:47PM -0600, Jay Strauss wrote: > > Pete et al, > > > > The lugod site looks (and works) nicely. > > Thanks! :) > > > > What technologies are you using? > > That is, how and who did your graphics. > > Marianne Waage using Photoshop and me using The Gimp. > > > > Do you use some sort of a web > > templating system, lugod has a similar look to other open source sites. > > I rolled our own PHP code for the look-and-feel... > > > > Is the mailing list major domo? What do you use to archive and search the > > mailing list? Anything I'm missing > > I believe the lists are running Mailman. The search engine > is Mnogo. These were set up by Pete Salzman and > Henry House. > > Thanks! :) > > -bill! > ___ > vox-tech mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
