Re: [vox-tech] smtp question - blocked ip
There was a discussion pointed at by /. a week or so ago that had an interesting discussion of RBLs. http://theory.whirlycott.com/~phil/antispam/rbl-bad/rbl-bad.html Joel On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 09:41:38AM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: thanks, steven that's a good link to know -- i'll definitely keep it in mind! and from now on, i'll think twice before sending out spam. i honestly didn't think anyone would mind some nigeria scam emails... ;) the thing that sucks is that i can understand blocking out a PPPoE netblock, but blocking out the entire netblock space of pacbell.net is a bit... heavy handed! this whole experience has left me feeling ... dirty! :( pete begin Steven Peck [EMAIL PROTECTED] The reciever is setup to use a block list by ip address. So, lookup your MX and/or IP Address in a lookup site. For all potential email block/spam problems, I turn to www.dnsstuff.com The MX for dirac.org is 'mail.dirac.org' The IP is 64.164.47.8' Looking up the IP Address at DNSStuff gets you http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ip4r.ch?ip=64.164.47.8 Your IP is listed in spambag.org's email blocklist http://www.spambag.org/cgi-bin/spambag?mailfrom=pacbell Pete, you spammer you. :) j/k Best of luck getting off of it seeing as it is a PacBell IP netblock. Your best hope is if 'netease.net' can whitelist your ip address. -sp [...] ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] smtp question - blocked ip
On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 11:55:44PM -0800, Joel Baumert wrote: There was a discussion pointed at by /. a week or so ago that had an interesting discussion of RBLs. http://theory.whirlycott.com/~phil/antispam/rbl-bad/rbl-bad.html ... And this article was just as quickly shown to be missing some key ideas and concerns, and not in-line with much anti-spam public opinion. It's content feels like a talk-show, shallow logic, a few barely discussed hot-spots, etc. The only real problem an RBL could ever have is in it's human management, listing/delisting processes specifically. That isn't a problem inherent to RBLs... that'd be a problem for anything, anti-spam services or not. -- Ted Deppner http://www.psyber.com/~ted/ ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] smtp question - blocked ip
On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 08:21:59AM -0800, Ted Deppner wrote: On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 11:55:44PM -0800, Joel Baumert wrote: There was a discussion pointed at by /. a week or so ago that had an interesting discussion of RBLs. http://theory.whirlycott.com/~phil/antispam/rbl-bad/rbl-bad.html ... And this article was just as quickly shown to be missing some key ideas and concerns, and not in-line with much anti-spam public opinion. It's content feels like a talk-show, shallow logic, a few barely discussed hot-spots, etc. The only real problem an RBL could ever have is in it's human management, listing/delisting processes specifically. That isn't a problem inherent to RBLs... that'd be a problem for anything, anti-spam services or not. [...] Pete's problem of being blocked because your ISP has been blocked is a biggie... Many people with access to broadband have limited if any choices about who their ISP is because of lack of competition, money, long term contracts, etc. To have your machine be collateral damage to an RBL for what could be an innocent reason is a problem. One of the examples in the article is an ISP being blocked because it allows a SPAMer to sell their software is idiotic. The SPAMer isn't sending SPAM from the site so _WHY_ add it to the list? Your right the human factor is the problem with RBLs, and it is not an easy one to get around. The second problem with RBLs is legality, from what I remember at least one RBL has been successfully sued for restraint of trade :-(. I guess the moral to the story is that people should not depend on entirly RBL's when making automated decisions on SPAM and just use it as a indication that something could be. I have been using spamassassin for about two months now and have been _very_ happy with the results. For my wife it has blocked 530 SPAM messages with only 3 incorrect blockings (fixed with a procmail rule). She still got about 50 messages a month, but that is _significanly_ less than what we had before. I decreased some of the SPAM before with iptables rules blocking a list of RIPE and APIN networks, but stopped after getting the assassin working. When I get time I'll probably add some rules that give those networks enough points to get my SPAM from those networks tossed. I would be interested to read what you think is a good piece on the topic... Joel ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] img align=right weirdness in mozilla
I just noticed that the news items on the front page of my http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/ site renders strangely. Notice how each newsitem is indented on the right more and more. I'm familiar with this oddness (from Netscape 4 and other browsers) when you have multiple images aligned the same way. e.g., if there's not enough verticle clearance between them, they line up like so: -. /\ --. /\ \/ \/ rather than: - /\ ---. \/ --. /\ \/ The solution I was familiar with (and I could be wrong, seeing as it doesn't work in Mozilla; although it does seem to make all other browsers I've tried happy) is to use a clear=all attribute to a benign tag, like br: So, instead of having just this, which could cause the 2nd image to be crammed in further to the left: img src=foo.png align=right This text appears on the left of the FOO image.p img src=bar.png align=right This text appears on the left of the BAR image. ... You have this: img src=foo.png align=right This text appears on the left of the FOO image.p br clear=all!-- This magic keeps 'bar.png' aligned with 'foo.png' -- img src=bar.png align=right This text appears on the left of the BAR image. br clear=all!-- a good habit -- However, as I said, this isn't working in Mozilla. Instead, I'm getting: # Tux Paint speaks Chinese - Jan. 6, 2003 The latest release of Tux Paint includes a fix for printing in Windows, updated Spanish documentation, and support for Chinese (Simplified)! this horiz. rule -- -- doesn't extend all the way, either! # Tux Paint demos in Northern California - Dec. 29, 2002 Bill Kendrick, lead developer of Tux Paint, will be demonstrating Tux Paint at the January 9th meeting of the Davis Mac Users Group, the January 14th meeting of the North Bay Linux Users' Group in Sebastopol, and the January 15th meeting of the Sacramento PC Users' Group. ---- even worse! more indented! # Tux Paint 0.9.2 for Windows - Dec. 19, 2002 Last week's release of Tux Paint, and the most recent Stamps collection are available for Windows. Notice that the images don't extend below the text at all in any of the blocks, so even WITHOUT a br clear=all, the horizontal rules, and the text and right-align images below them should extend all the way to the right. What's up!? Is it a bug in the version of Mozilla I'm using? Does anyone see the same weirdness in other browsers? (I don't in IE 5.x, Netscape 4.x, Konqueror 2.x, Opera 5.x.) I'm using: Mozilla 1.0 Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020623 Debian/1.0.0-0.woody.1 Thanks in advance! -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] img align=right weirdness in mozilla
On Monday 06 January 2003 12:25 pm, Bill Kendrick wrote: ... What's up!? Is it a bug in the version of Mozilla I'm using? Does anyone see the same weirdness in other browsers? (I don't in IE 5.x, Netscape 4.x, Konqueror 2.x, Opera 5.x.) I'm using: Mozilla 1.0 Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020623 Debian/1.0.0-0.woody.1 Weird. I see the same problem in Mozilla 1.2.1 also. Also Phoenix 0.5, though I expected that since it uses Mozilla's rendering engine. -- Rod http://www.sunsetsystems.com/ ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] img align=right weirdness in mozilla
This is a bug in mozilla. There are many google references to it. (images not 'aligning' correctly) As far as the hr... You could try to change the hr size=1 noshade to hr size=1 width='100%' noshade. This would ensure that the hr would be 100% inside the table cell. -- Andy --- Bill Kendrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just noticed that the news items on the front page of my http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/ site renders strangely. Notice how each newsitem is indented on the right more and more. I'm familiar with this oddness (from Netscape 4 and other browsers) when you have multiple images aligned the same way. e.g., if there's not enough verticle clearance between them, they line up like so: -. /\ --. /\ \/ \/ rather than: - /\ ---. \/ --. /\ \/ The solution I was familiar with (and I could be wrong, seeing as it doesn't work in Mozilla; although it does seem to make all other browsers I've tried happy) is to use a clear=all attribute to a benign tag, like br: So, instead of having just this, which could cause the 2nd image to be crammed in further to the left: img src=foo.png align=right This text appears on the left of the FOO image.p img src=bar.png align=right This text appears on the left of the BAR image. ... You have this: img src=foo.png align=right This text appears on the left of the FOO image.p br clear=all!-- This magic keeps 'bar.png' aligned with 'foo.png' -- img src=bar.png align=right This text appears on the left of the BAR image. br clear=all!-- a good habit -- However, as I said, this isn't working in Mozilla. Instead, I'm getting: # Tux Paint speaks Chinese - Jan. 6, 2003 The latest release of Tux Paint includes a fix for printing in Windows, updated Spanish documentation, and support for Chinese (Simplified)! this horiz. rule -- -- doesn't extend all the way, either! # Tux Paint demos in Northern California - Dec. 29, 2002 Bill Kendrick, lead developer of Tux Paint, will be demonstrating Tux Paint at the January 9th meeting of the Davis Mac Users Group, the January 14th meeting of the North Bay Linux Users' Group in Sebastopol, and the January 15th meeting of the Sacramento PC Users' Group. ---- even worse! more indented! # Tux Paint 0.9.2 for Windows - Dec. 19, 2002 Last week's release of Tux Paint, and the most recent Stamps collection are available for Windows. Notice that the images don't extend below the text at all in any of the blocks, so even WITHOUT a br clear=all, the horizontal rules, and the text and right-align images below them should extend all the way to the right. What's up!? Is it a bug in the version of Mozilla I'm using? Does anyone see the same weirdness in other browsers? (I don't in IE 5.x, Netscape 4.x, Konqueror 2.x, Opera 5.x.) I'm using: Mozilla 1.0 Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020623 Debian/1.0.0-0.woody.1 Thanks in advance! -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] img align=right weirdness in mozilla
On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 01:49:50PM -0800, andy wergedal wrote: This is a bug in mozilla. There are many google references to it. (images not 'aligning' correctly) As far as the hr... You could try to change the hr size=1 noshade to hr size=1 width='100%' noshade. This would ensure that the hr would be 100% inside the table cell. Didn't help the HR's. In their opinion, that right edge where they're ending _is_ 100%. It's not 100% of the table, though... just 100% of the space they think they're allocated. (I think no width= is the same as width=100%, besides.) Thanks though. Good to hear (I guess) that it's a Moz bug. :^) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] beowulf cluster
I am looking for a good howto or a really clear book on setting up a beowulf cluster. I have 3 computers and I am wondering first off if it would be easier to use NFS or having each node have a completely functional OS. -thanx, ryan ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] php and forms question
there's a page i've been tinkering with, off and on, to teach myself
php. it's a cryptogram page:
http://www.dirac.org/p/crypto/index.php
i have some data that i pass using hidden form fields, like this:
print FORM action=\index.php\ method=\post\\n;
print INPUT type=\hidden\ name=\PlainText\ value=\$PlainText\\n;
print INPUT type=\hidden\ name=\CipherText\ value=\$CipherText\\n;
when the user presses the submit button, any apostrophes or backslashes
within $PlainText or $CipherText get backslashed. Like this:
before pressing submit:
TO TEST A MAN'S CHARACTER,
1st time submit is pressed:
TO TEST A MAN\'S CHARACTER,
2st time submit is pressed:
TO TEST A MAN\\'S CHARACTER,
and so on. i'm not sure why or how the backslashes are entering the
string. without really knowing why this is happening, i tried to remove
the symptom by brute force:
$PlainText = ereg_replace('\\([[:punct:]])', \\1, $PlainText);
$CipherText = ereg_replace('\\([[:punct:]])', \\1, $CipherText);
but php didn't like the backslashes.
i'm kind of lost. any ideas?
pete
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Re: [vox-tech] beowulf cluster
If you dont get any responses, we have a user on our nblug list who got a job to set up a Beowulf cluster and use it (you could try posting there and he may respond.) -ME -- -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GCS/CM$/IT$/LS$/S/O$ !d--(++) !s !a+++(-) C++$() U$(+$) P+$+++ L+++$(++) E W+++$(+) N+ o K w+$+ O-@ M+$ V-$- !PS !PE Y+ PGP++ t@-(++) 5+@ X@ R- tv- b++ DI+++ D+ G--@ e+++ h(++)+ r*? z? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- decode: http://www.ebb.org/ungeek/ about: http://www.geekcode.com/geek.html Campus IT(/OS Security): Operating Systems Support Specialist Assistant Ryan Detert said: I am looking for a good howto or a really clear book on setting up a beowulf cluster. I have 3 computers and I am wondering first off if it would be easier to use NFS or having each node have a completely functional OS. -thanx, ryan ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] beowulf cluster
begin Ryan Detert [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am looking for a good howto or a really clear book on setting up a beowulf cluster. there's a beowulf howto, but it looks abandoned. the copy i have was last updated in 1998. there's a book on beowulf clusters in the lugod library, and it was good at the basics, but not very detailed when it comes to actually setting one up. i found the best references were webpages of people who have set them up in the past. i recall some pages at santa barbara being excellent. note that there's really not one way of setting up a beowulf cluster. the term is more like an umbrella term for a bunch of systems that run batch processing, scheduling software and uses some kind of message passing library. literally, there are as many different ways of setting up clusters as there are people who set clusters up. I have 3 computers and I am wondering first off if it would be easier to use NFS or having each node have a completely functional OS. i've found NFS to be kind of a trivial thing to set up. the cluster in physics has separate OS's, but i think that might be due to laziness. :) i'm think bill broadley from the math dept mentioned his nodes are diskless or nearly diskless. if you go the separate OS route, NIS (yp) seems like it would be perfect. however, i never did get NIS to work. tried for 2 whole days and came up with nothing, so i finally gave up on it. :) don't know how much you know about beowulf, but do you have a particular application in mind? they don't parallelize stuff by themselves; you either need to run other people's programs linked to something like MPI or brew your own. not that it's hard, but it can take a lot of thought to determine the best way of parallelizing a particular problem. pete ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] beowulf cluster
On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 02:48:38PM -0800, Ryan Detert wrote: I am looking for a good howto or a really clear book on setting up a beowulf cluster. I have 3 computers and I am wondering first off if it would be easier to use NFS or having each node have a completely functional OS. You do not need to worry about most infrastructure issues with only three boxes. I like ROCKS (http://www.rocksclusters.org/rocks-documentation/2.3/), which admittedly, is overkill for my little cluster running embarrassingly parallel instances of NCI BLAST and megaBLAST. Eric -- Eric Engelhard - www.cvbig.org ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] beowulf cluster
On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 03:08:25PM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: begin Ryan Detert [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am looking for a good howto or a really clear book on setting up a beowulf cluster. there's a beowulf howto, but it looks abandoned. the copy i have was last updated in 1998. there's a book on beowulf clusters in the lugod library, and it was good at the basics, but not very detailed when it comes to actually setting one up. Please avoid the software that came with the O'Reilly Beowulf book. Heck, avoid the whole book. Even they want to distance themselves from it: http://www.oreillynet.com/search/?sp-q=clustersp-k=bookssearch=search Eric -- Eric Engelhard - www.cvbig.org ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] beowulf cluster
begin Eric Engelhard [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 03:08:25PM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: begin Ryan Detert [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am looking for a good howto or a really clear book on setting up a beowulf cluster. there's a beowulf howto, but it looks abandoned. the copy i have was last updated in 1998. there's a book on beowulf clusters in the lugod library, and it was good at the basics, but not very detailed when it comes to actually setting one up. Please avoid the software that came with the O'Reilly Beowulf book. Heck, avoid the whole book. Even they want to distance themselves from it: http://www.oreillynet.com/search/?sp-q=clustersp-k=bookssearch=search wow, that's amazing! fyi, the book in the lugod library is MIT press, not ORA. :) and i found it to be quite good if you want to learn the basics about parallel processing (but useless beyond the basics). pete -- First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Gandhi, being prophetic about Linux. Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] Hack around Mozilla alignment bug
I just threw the little chunks of content within a table width=100% ...trtd ... /td/tr/table ...and it worked around Mozilla's alignment bug I was complaining about earlier. :^) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] php and forms question
Pete, Try the stripslashes() function. It removes extraneous backslashes very effectively. Richard At 02:54 PM 1/6/2003, you wrote: print FORM action=\index.php\ method=\post\\n; print INPUT type=\hidden\ name=\PlainText\ value=\$PlainText\\n; print INPUT type=\hidden\ name=\CipherText\ value=\$CipherText\\n; Sliante, Richard S. Crawford http://www.mossroot.com AIM: Buffalo2K ICQ: 11646404 Y!: rscrawford MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is only with the heart that we see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye. --Antoine de Saint Exupéry Push the button, Max! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] php and forms question
holy cow, works like a charm. php is the most amazing language... thank you! pete begin Richard S. Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pete, Try the stripslashes() function. It removes extraneous backslashes very effectively. Richard At 02:54 PM 1/6/2003, you wrote: print FORM action=\index.php\ method=\post\\n; print INPUT type=\hidden\ name=\PlainText\ value=\$PlainText\\n; print INPUT type=\hidden\ name=\CipherText\ value=\$CipherText\\n; -- First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Gandhi, being prophetic about Linux. Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] php and forms question
On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 02:54:44PM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: there's a page i've been tinkering with, off and on, to teach myself php. it's a cryptogram page: http://www.dirac.org/p/crypto/index.php i have some data that i pass using hidden form fields, like this: print FORM action=\index.php\ method=\post\\n; print INPUT type=\hidden\ name=\PlainText\ value=\$PlainText\\n; print INPUT type=\hidden\ name=\CipherText\ value=\$CipherText\\n; when the user presses the submit button, any apostrophes or backslashes within $PlainText or $CipherText get backslashed. Like this: and so on. i'm not sure why or how the backslashes are entering the string. without really knowing why this is happening, i tried to remove the symptom by brute force: They are in the string because you probably have something in your php.ini like: magic_quotes_gpc = On That tells PHP to escape quotes and backslashes for (G)et (P)ost and (C)ookies. Personally, I leave that setting off -- don't mess with my data unless I tell you to! Mr. Crawford mentioned the stripslashes() function, and I'd highly recommend glancing through the function definitions in the PHP manual, especially those for strings and arrays. I think you'll be surprised at how many common tasks are already implemented. i'm kind of lost. any ideas? Yeah, RTFM, you evil spammer. :) -t ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] php and forms question
I love it when people call me Mr. Crawford. I always feel so grownup. Just to add to what Troy said, I've always found that the on-line documentation for PHP, at http://www.php.net, is more than adequate for all my needs (though I went to a Wrox book when I started playing around with objects). At 03:57 PM 1/6/2003, you wrote: Mr. Crawford mentioned the stripslashes() function, and I'd highly recommend glancing through the function definitions in the PHP manual, especially those for strings and arrays. I think you'll be surprised at how many common tasks are already implemented. Sliante, Richard S. Crawford http://www.mossroot.com AIM: Buffalo2K ICQ: 11646404 Y!: rscrawford MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is only with the heart that we see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye. --Antoine de Saint Exupéry Push the button, Max! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] img align=right weirdness in mozilla
It works for me. Did you somehow figure out how to fix it, or is it still screwed up in your browser? ||/ Name VersionDescription +++-==-==- ii mozilla-browse 1.0.0-0.woody. Mozilla Web Browser - core and browser ii galeon 1.2.5-0.woody. Mozilla based web browser with GNOME look an ---ORIGINAL MESSAGE--- Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 12:25:49 -0800 From: Bill Kendrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [vox-tech] img align=right weirdness in mozilla Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just noticed that the news items on the front page of my http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/ site renders strangely. Notice how each newsitem is indented on the right more and more. I'm familiar with this oddness (from Netscape 4 and other browsers) when you have multiple images aligned the same way. e.g., if there's not enough verticle clearance between them, they line up like so: -. /\ --. /\ \/ \/ rather than: - /\ ---. \/ --. /\ \/ The solution I was familiar with (and I could be wrong, seeing as it doesn't work in Mozilla; although it does seem to make all other browsers I've tried happy) is to use a clear=all attribute to a benign tag, like br: So, instead of having just this, which could cause the 2nd image to be crammed in further to the left: img src=foo.png align=right This text appears on the left of the FOO image.p img src=bar.png align=right This text appears on the left of the BAR image. ... You have this: img src=foo.png align=right This text appears on the left of the FOO image.p br clear=all!-- This magic keeps 'bar.png' aligned with 'foo.png' -- img src=bar.png align=right This text appears on the left of the BAR image. br clear=all!-- a good habit -- However, as I said, this isn't working in Mozilla. Instead, I'm getting: # Tux Paint speaks Chinese - Jan. 6, 2003 The latest release of Tux Paint includes a fix for printing in Windows, updated Spanish documentation, and support for Chinese (Simplified)! this horiz. rule -- -- doesn't extend all the way, either! # Tux Paint demos in Northern California - Dec. 29, 2002 Bill Kendrick, lead developer of Tux Paint, will be demonstrating Tux Paint at the January 9th meeting of the Davis Mac Users Group, the January 14th meeting of the North Bay Linux Users' Group in Sebastopol, and the January 15th meeting of the Sacramento PC Users' Group. ---- even worse! more indented! # Tux Paint 0.9.2 for Windows - Dec. 19, 2002 Last week's release of Tux Paint, and the most recent Stamps collection are available for Windows. Notice that the images don't extend below the text at all in any of the blocks, so even WITHOUT a br clear=all, the horizontal rules, and the text and right-align images below them should extend all the way to the right. What's up!? Is it a bug in the version of Mozilla I'm using? Does anyone see the same weirdness in other browsers? (I don't in IE 5.x, Netscape 4.x, Konqueror 2.x, Opera 5.x.) I'm using: Mozilla 1.0 Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020623 Debian/1.0.0-0.woody.1 Thanks in advance! -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] img align=right weirdness in mozilla
On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 05:15:29PM -0800, Ken Bloom wrote: It works for me. Did you somehow figure out how to fix it, or is it still screwed up in your browser? When did you look at it? See my later post, where I 'fixed' it for Mozilla by sticking them in tables. Maybe that's what you're seeing. -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Hack around Mozilla alignment bug
Well, then, ignore my message saying it works for me. You did something. (I'll get in the habit of reading the whole vox and vox-tech digest before I reply.) ---ORIGINAL MESSAGE--- Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 15:46:27 -0800 From: Bill Kendrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [vox-tech] Hack around Mozilla alignment bug Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just threw the little chunks of content within a table width=100% ...trtd ... /td/tr/table ...and it worked around Mozilla's alignment bug I was complaining about earlier. :^) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] subdomain problem
I currently have a domain mydomain.net pointing to my server with a static IP. However, my friend wants a subdomainhis.mydomain.net that he can run off of his server (which has its own separate static IP). Is there any way to easily get the subdomain to map to his server. -ryan ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] subdomain problem
Should be trivial if you are running your own DNS for the domain. Just have his.mydomain.net resolve to his IP. The downside here is that if your machine goes down, so does his domain resolution (unless of course you have secondary DNS you can control). If you're using whatever company for authoritative, that may not be as easy. IIRC, some companies will let you point as many subdomains to different IPs as you want, but you'd have to fiddle with that and see. -Gabe On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 06:58:59PM -0800, Ryan Detert wrote: I currently have a domain mydomain.net pointing to my server with a static IP. However, my friend wants a subdomainhis.mydomain.net that he can run off of his server (which has its own separate static IP). Is there any way to easily get the subdomain to map to his server. -ryan ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Laptop repair recommendations?
on Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 08:24:21PM -0800, Henry House ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Sun, Dec 01, 2002 at 11:35:29PM +, Karsten M. Self wrote: I'm looking for recommendations on laptop repair shops, preferably local (North Bay, Sacto, SF, Oakland/Berkeley). I've had very poor results with the OEM of the unit in question -- it's a Compal N20U resold under numerous names: Dell, TuxTops, QLITech, Chembook, and scum-of-the-earth ARM Computers. Had a great experience with Laptop Service King. You send the laptop to them by UPS. They diagnose the problem, call you, and repair it after you approve the work (or send it back with no charge beyond shipping, if you refuse). http://www.laptopking.com Henry, thanks. Playing with procmail about a month ago, finally tracked down where messages were getting stored. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of Gestalt don't you understand? How to unwedge / disable your X display manager login: http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/xdm-disable.html ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
