Re: [vox-tech] Ubuntu 10.10 S-video out on Dell Inspiron 1525 ???
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 09:32:36PM -0600, Chanoch (Ken) Bloom wrote: On Thu, 2011-02-03 at 20:52 -0800, Bill Kendrick wrote: ... Uh... WTF? How does one get S-Video out to work on an Inspiron nowadays? It looks like xorg.conf has been split up into a .d directory. Any clues? Anyone done this? THis is seriously pissing me off. (Google doesn't help by giving me nothing but 5 year old forum pages with no answers, or about other laptops.) You use xrandr. (or one of the GUI control panels designed to interact with xrandr.) Per my follow-up from the other day, when I use 'krandr' now, instead of TV-1 not being accessible at all, now it shows me TV-1 as connected when the S-video is plugged in. So that's progress! However, the TV itself still doesn't show anything, even when I configure TV-1 (e.g., 800x600). -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Ubuntu 10.10 S-video out on Dell Inspiron 1525 ???
On 03/13/2011 04:23 PM, Bill Kendrick wrote: Per my follow-up from the other day, when I use 'krandr' now, instead of TV-1 not being accessible at all, now it shows me TV-1 as connected when the S-video is plugged in. So that's progress! However, the TV itself still doesn't show anything, even when I configure TV-1 (e.g., 800x600). -bill! If it helps, here's the xorg.conf that I use with a low-end nvidia card sending s-video to an older TV: Section ServerLayout Identifier Layout0 Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer EndSection Section Files EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol auto Option Device /dev/psaux Option Emulate3Buttons no Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Monitor0 VendorName Unknown ModelName TV-0 HorizSync 28.0 - 33.0 VertRefresh 43.0 - 72.0 EndSection Section Device Identifier Device0 Driver nvidia VendorName NVIDIA Corporation BoardName GeForce4 MX 4000 BusID PCI:1:0:0 EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Device0 MonitorMonitor0 DefaultDepth24 Option TVStandard NTSC-M Option TVOutFormat SVIDEO SubSection Display Depth 24 Modes 640x480 EndSubSection EndSection ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Ubuntu 10.10 S-video out on Dell Inspiron 1525 ???
Brief follow-up. I'm using Intel video drivers from http://ppa.launchpad.net/glasen/intel-driver/ubuntu I used those after upgrading Ubuntu 10.10 from KDE 4.5 (which it comes with) to KDE 4.6 (and now 4.6.1), which was made available from http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu I had to do so on my Dell 1525, as well as my wife's Thinkpad X41, because after upgrading to KDE 4.6, the screen wasn't refreshing properly. Anyway, over the course of the past few months, those drivers have been updated a handful of times, and I checked my S-Video out again recently, and there's magically been a little progress. Now, instead of my TV-1 display being unselectable in, for example, KRandRTray, it now shows up as a connected device when I have the S-Video cable plugged in, and the TV turned on. However, no progress beyond that, so far... my TV remains black. :^/ I haven't had much time to care about or work on this, but I figured I'd give an update with the progress, rather than just leave the thread dangling. -bill! On Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 04:53:47PM -0800, Alex Mandel wrote: On 02/09/2011 04:28 PM, Brian Lavender wrote: On Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 03:33:57PM -0800, Bill Kendrick wrote: That was before trying to use S-Video. I also admittedly have not yet tried other S-Video cables to ensure that it's not a cable issue. (If that turns out to be the case, I'll be annoyed at the loss of an S-Video cable... oh, and embarassed ;) ) snip ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Ubuntu 10.10 S-video out on Dell Inspiron 1525 ???
On Mon, Feb 07, 2011 at 05:45:35PM -0800, Brian Lavender wrote: I was equally confused with the Xorg config file as you have been Bill. Were you able to figure out the problem? I've had extremely limited time to look into this. Someone on #lugod suggested that 'it should just work,' and to a limited degree, it does. When I KRandRTray in KDE (or run xrandr --prop), I see TV1 listed as one of my four outputs (the other 3 being VGA1, LVDS1 (laptop LCD) and DVI1), but it's shown as 'disconnected', even when I've booted the laptop with the S-video cable plugged into the TV, and the TV turned on, and its input set to that particular port. (On my TV, the easily-accessible S-video and composite ports, on the side (vs back) of the TV are AV-3, and that's what I have the TV switched to.) Further Googling has come up with a bunch of potential leads that I haven't investigated, but here are a handful from the collection of bookmarks I've amassed: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9106page=4 http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3108157.0 https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Intel_Graphics#KMS_.28Kernel_Mode_Setting.29 http://superuser.com/questions/192121/how-to-install-intel-82852-855gm-driver-on-ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat PS - I had issues with screen redraw under Ubuntu 10.10 and KDE 4.6, and added the following apt source to fetch an updated Intel driver: http://ppa.launchpad.net/glasen/intel-driver/ubuntu That was before trying to use S-Video. I also admittedly have not yet tried other S-Video cables to ensure that it's not a cable issue. (If that turns out to be the case, I'll be annoyed at the loss of an S-Video cable... oh, and embarassed ;) ) -- -bill! Sent from my computer ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Ubuntu 10.10 S-video out on Dell Inspiron 1525 ???
On Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 03:33:57PM -0800, Bill Kendrick wrote: That was before trying to use S-Video. I also admittedly have not yet tried other S-Video cables to ensure that it's not a cable issue. (If that turns out to be the case, I'll be annoyed at the loss of an S-Video cable... oh, and embarassed ;) ) I have a cable. I can bring it over. -- Brian Lavender http://www.brie.com/brian/ There are two ways of constructing a software design. One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies. And the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. Professor C. A. R. Hoare The 1980 Turing award lecture ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Ubuntu 10.10 S-video out on Dell Inspiron 1525 ???
On 02/09/2011 04:28 PM, Brian Lavender wrote: On Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 03:33:57PM -0800, Bill Kendrick wrote: That was before trying to use S-Video. I also admittedly have not yet tried other S-Video cables to ensure that it's not a cable issue. (If that turns out to be the case, I'll be annoyed at the loss of an S-Video cable... oh, and embarassed ;) ) I have a cable. I can bring it over. The tricky part is that different Dell models had slightly different cables. So it has to be the same model/video card to be sure. I remember trying to trade between a couple of Dells and they weren't always the same even if they fit. Never did figure out why... Enjoy, Alex ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Ubuntu 10.10 S-video out on Dell Inspiron 1525 ???
On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 03:25:25PM -0800, Bill Kendrick wrote: On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 03:06:23PM -0800, Bill Kendrick wrote: On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 09:20:18PM -0800, Alex Mandel wrote: Actually a few version back xorg became super auto config, where the rule became basically = do not touch by hand. If you want hand massaged stuff you put it in a different file and get it pulled in. This page shows how to deal with the new layout. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom Thanks, I'll take a look when I have more than 30 seconds to spare. (That reminds me. I was pleased that my Wacom just worked, sensitivity and everything, when I installed 10.10 from scratch. That was a nice bonus :) FYI, this looks kind of like it's what I need, but it's been about 3 years since I last had to set up S-Video out on this laptop. http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4668070postcount=25 Section Device Identifier Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller Driver intel BusID PCI:0:2:0 Option monitor-VGA VGA Option monitor-TV TV Option monitor-LVCD LVCD EndSection So my thought is to just dump that into a 10-video.conf file...? I was equally confused with the Xorg config file as you have been Bill. Were you able to figure out the problem? brian -- Brian Lavender http://www.brie.com/brian/ Keep your feet on the ground and keep reaching for the stars. --Kasey Kasem ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Ubuntu 10.10 S-video out on Dell Inspiron 1525 ???
On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 09:20:18PM -0800, Alex Mandel wrote: Actually a few version back xorg became super auto config, where the rule became basically = do not touch by hand. If you want hand massaged stuff you put it in a different file and get it pulled in. This page shows how to deal with the new layout. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom Thanks, I'll take a look when I have more than 30 seconds to spare. (That reminds me. I was pleased that my Wacom just worked, sensitivity and everything, when I installed 10.10 from scratch. That was a nice bonus :) It's almost identical to udev, and modrprobe stuff - where you put files with config stuff in the directory and assign a priority with a number at the start of the file name. As for the S-video part, what brand of card and which driver are you using? As Brian mentioned, it's an integrated Intel in this Dell Inspiron 1525. Specifically, lspci shows: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c) PS - I upgraded my Ubuntu 10.10 to KDE 4.6 yesterday (via backport mentioned here: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.6 ), and today I had to do this to get my display to work right: http://ubuntuku.org/10/how-to-fix-intel-graphics-issues-in-kubuntu-maverick/ Things were not updating unless I forced them to fully refresh (alt+tab, cover/expose, wiggle mouse, etc.). Very hard to use my computer. :) So I'm not even using precisely the same video driver as I was when I posted yesterday. Fun :^P -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Ubuntu 10.10 S-video out on Dell Inspiron 1525 ???
On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 03:06:23PM -0800, Bill Kendrick wrote: On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 09:20:18PM -0800, Alex Mandel wrote: Actually a few version back xorg became super auto config, where the rule became basically = do not touch by hand. If you want hand massaged stuff you put it in a different file and get it pulled in. This page shows how to deal with the new layout. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom Thanks, I'll take a look when I have more than 30 seconds to spare. (That reminds me. I was pleased that my Wacom just worked, sensitivity and everything, when I installed 10.10 from scratch. That was a nice bonus :) FYI, this looks kind of like it's what I need, but it's been about 3 years since I last had to set up S-Video out on this laptop. http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4668070postcount=25 Section Device Identifier Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller Driver intel BusID PCI:0:2:0 Option monitor-VGA VGA Option monitor-TV TV Option monitor-LVCD LVCD EndSection So my thought is to just dump that into a 10-video.conf file...? -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] Ubuntu 10.10 S-video out on Dell Inspiron 1525 ???
... Uh... WTF? How does one get S-Video out to work on an Inspiron nowadays? It looks like xorg.conf has been split up into a .d directory. Any clues? Anyone done this? THis is seriously pissing me off. (Google doesn't help by giving me nothing but 5 year old forum pages with no answers, or about other laptops.) :^( -- -bill! Sent from my computer ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Ubuntu 10.10 S-video out on Dell Inspiron 1525 ???
On 02/03/2011 09:20 PM, Alex Mandel wrote: On 02/03/2011 08:52 PM, Bill Kendrick wrote: ... Uh... WTF? How does one get S-Video out to work on an Inspiron nowadays? It looks like xorg.conf has been split up into a .d directory. Any clues? Anyone done this? THis is seriously pissing me off. (Google doesn't help by giving me nothing but 5 year old forum pages with no answers, or about other laptops.) :^( Actually a few version back xorg became super auto config, where the rule became basically = do not touch by hand. If you want hand massaged stuff you put it in a different file and get it pulled in. This page shows how to deal with the new layout. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom It's almost identical to udev, and modrprobe stuff - where you put files with config stuff in the directory and assign a priority with a number at the start of the file name. As for the S-video part, what brand of card and which driver are you using? Thanks, Alex This link is also probably really relevant for either ATI or Nvidia, the new KMS stuff messed up a lot of things that used to work (like full screen flash) http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_get_TV-Out_working_on_ATI_graphic_cards Enjoy, Alex ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Ubuntu 10.10 S-video out on Dell Inspiron 1525 ???
On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 09:24:43PM -0800, Alex Mandel wrote: On 02/03/2011 09:20 PM, Alex Mandel wrote: On 02/03/2011 08:52 PM, Bill Kendrick wrote: ... Uh... WTF? How does one get S-Video out to work on an Inspiron nowadays? It looks like xorg.conf has been split up into a .d directory. Any clues? Anyone done this? THis is seriously pissing me off. (Google doesn't help by giving me nothing but 5 year old forum pages with no answers, or about other laptops.) :^( Actually a few version back xorg became super auto config, where the rule became basically = do not touch by hand. If you want hand massaged stuff you put it in a different file and get it pulled in. This page shows how to deal with the new layout. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom It's almost identical to udev, and modrprobe stuff - where you put files with config stuff in the directory and assign a priority with a number at the start of the file name. As for the S-video part, what brand of card and which driver are you using? Bill has the integrated Intel card. -- Brian Lavender http://www.brie.com/brian/ Keep your feet on the ground and keep reaching for the stars. --Kasey Kasem ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
