Re: [vox-tech] Getting KDE 3.4 in Debian Testing
On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 11:10:55AM -0700, Bob Scofield wrote: > To really follow up from "last night' you should think about posting a review > of KDE 3.4 to vox. You seemed so enthused in your first post, but you've > never told us if the upgrade is worth it. Honestly, I haven't had time to play with it! :^) One thing I did like was that aKregator now has options for setting font sizes. The default font it was using in an earlier version was beginning to cause eye strain. ;^) > If you don't think a post to vox would be that interesting for the list, then > send me a review. I'll certainly post my comments to the list! Just give me a day or two to get set back up and take it out for a test drive. :^) FWIW, folks in the KDE community all seem to think iot's great. ;^) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Getting KDE 3.4 in Debian Testing
On Saturday 02 April 2005 18:03, Bill Kendrick wrote: > > > To follow-up from last night, I did have a little struggle getting a few > packages to upgrade nicely, but I think that's due to my lack of > sophistication with apt-get and aptitude. :^) To really follow up from "last night' you should think about posting a review of KDE 3.4 to vox. You seemed so enthused in your first post, but you've never told us if the upgrade is worth it. If you don't think a post to vox would be that interesting for the list, then send me a review. Thanks. Bob ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Getting KDE 3.4 in Debian Testing
Bill Kendrick wrote: On Sun, Apr 03, 2005 at 05:24:16PM -0500, Jay Strauss wrote: Can you dump the userids/passwords to plain text? That's a good question, I haven't looked into it. Worst case scenario would be to use DCOP, I imagine... I'm not sure how you'd do that (having just read the DCOP page). But it doesn't seem you'd have the ability to decrypt the passwords. Can you export them for import into another machine? Also a good question. I /assume/ so. I can ask around, if you'd like! I was just curious, I'm not using kwallet, but I was thinking about it ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Getting KDE 3.4 in Debian Testing
On Sun, Apr 03, 2005 at 05:24:16PM -0500, Jay Strauss wrote: > Can you dump the userids/passwords to plain text? That's a good question, I haven't looked into it. Worst case scenario would be to use DCOP, I imagine... > Can you export them for import into another machine? Also a good question. I /assume/ so. I can ask around, if you'd like! -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Getting KDE 3.4 in Debian Testing
Bill Kendrick wrote: On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 10:41:18PM -0800, Bob Scofield wrote: Is kwallet a good idea? I've only put one password into it. It seems like a hassle to have to enter two passwords to do something. But as I type these comments I'm starting to understand why that might be a good idea. I love kwallet. I have so many websites that I have to log into to get things done (banking, banner ad tracking, mailman admin), and other passwords I don't want to bother remembering or typing every time I use my computer (instant messenger logins, for example), and with kwallet, it just remembers them for me. I just use a master password whenever something wants access to them (e.g., a web login form) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech Can you dump the userids/passwords to plain text? Can you export them for import into another machine? Thanks Jay ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Getting KDE 3.4 in Debian Testing
On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 10:41:18PM -0800, Bob Scofield wrote: > Is kwallet a good idea? I've only put one password into it. It seems like a > hassle to have to enter two passwords to do something. But as I type these > comments I'm starting to understand why that might be a good idea. I love kwallet. I have so many websites that I have to log into to get things done (banking, banner ad tracking, mailman admin), and other passwords I don't want to bother remembering or typing every time I use my computer (instant messenger logins, for example), and with kwallet, it just remembers them for me. I just use a master password whenever something wants access to them (e.g., a web login form) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Getting KDE 3.4 in Debian Testing
On Saturday 02 April 2005 18:03, Bill Kendrick wrote: > On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 11:54:42AM -0800, Bob Scofield wrote: > > UNFORTUNATELY, however, I was unable to log in when I first tried. > The KDE Splash would freeze at the "33%" level while restoring my session. > I tried moving my ".kde/share/config/session/" directory out of the way, > but that didn't help, so I simply renamed my entire ".kde" directory and > am starting fresh. (I don't care SO much about most of my preferences. > It's just my bookmarks and kwallet passwords, and I was able to move those > over easily.) > > So... YMMV. :^) Good luck!!! Hmm.I think I might wait until I have more time to work on this project. I'm sure I'll have a tougher time of this than you did. I'll have more time after April 20th. Is kwallet a good idea? I've only put one password into it. It seems like a hassle to have to enter two passwords to do something. But as I type these comments I'm starting to understand why that might be a good idea. Bob ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Getting KDE 3.4 in Debian Testing
On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 06:03:27PM -0800, Bill Kendrick wrote:
>
> On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 11:54:42AM -0800, Bob Scofield wrote:
> > On Saturday 02 April 2005 01:02, Bill Kendrick wrote:
> > >
> > > However, KDE 3.4 has been packaged for Testing, and can be reached
> > > via the following line in /etc/apt/sources.list:
> > >
> > > deb http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.4.0/ ./
> >
> > Here's a question. If one does nothing but wait, isn't it true that
> > KDE 3.4 will eventually come at some point just by an ordinary
> > apt-get upgrade?
>
> Yes, but if you're currently sticking with Stable, it looks like you
> won't get it for some time. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong!)
>
> I'm deducing this based on the comment I heard that said KDE 3.4 won't
> even get into _"sid"_ (Unstable) until after the current Testing
> ("sarge") 'graduates' into a Stable branch.
>
> Then, after KDE 3.4 hits "sid," it will no doubt linger there for at
> least a few weeks, and then eventually make its way into Testing
> (which at that point will be called "etch").
KDE 3.4 is included in Kubuntu:
http://www.kubuntu.org.uk/
-David
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Re: [vox-tech] Getting KDE 3.4 in Debian Testing
On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 11:54:42AM -0800, Bob Scofield wrote:
> On Saturday 02 April 2005 01:02, Bill Kendrick wrote:
> >
> > However, KDE 3.4 has been packaged for Testing, and can be reached via
> > the following line in /etc/apt/sources.list:
> >
> > deb http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.4.0/ ./
>
> Here's a question. If one does nothing but wait, isn't it true that KDE 3.4
> will eventually come at some point just by an ordinary apt-get upgrade?
Yes, but if you're currently sticking with Stable, it looks like you won't
get it for some time. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong!)
I'm deducing this based on the comment I heard that said KDE 3.4 won't even
get into _"sid"_ (Unstable) until after the current Testing ("sarge")
'graduates' into a Stable branch.
Then, after KDE 3.4 hits "sid," it will no doubt linger there for at least
a few weeks, and then eventually make its way into Testing (which at that
point will be called "etch").
To follow-up from last night, I did have a little struggle getting a few
packages to upgrade nicely, but I think that's due to my lack of
sophistication with apt-get and aptitude. :^) Kmail, Konqueror, kttsd and
kdebase were fighting with each other over a few icons and config files.
It's finally all installed, though, and without too much fuss. :^)
UNFORTUNATELY, however, I was unable to log in when I first tried.
The KDE Splash would freeze at the "33%" level while restoring my session.
I tried moving my ".kde/share/config/session/" directory out of the way,
but that didn't help, so I simply renamed my entire ".kde" directory and
am starting fresh. (I don't care SO much about most of my preferences.
It's just my bookmarks and kwallet passwords, and I was able to move those
over easily.)
So... YMMV. :^) Good luck!!!
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-bill!
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Re: [vox-tech] Getting KDE 3.4 in Debian Testing
On Saturday 02 April 2005 01:02, Bill Kendrick wrote: > > However, KDE 3.4 has been packaged for Testing, and can be reached via > the following line in /etc/apt/sources.list: > > deb http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.4.0/ ./ Here's a question. If one does nothing but wait, isn't it true that KDE 3.4 will eventually come at some point just by an ordinary apt-get upgrade? Bob ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
